Re: [ga-abuse] The Art of Persuasion

[Alexander Svensson <svensson@icannchannel.de>]

Hello Patrick!
	
Patrick Corliss wrote on 17.07.01, 14:44:05:
> The list rules provide that issues must be on topic to the business on the
> GA.  Have you any view on the idea of the List Monitors encouraging
> people to use [ga-rules] for debate on procedural issues?
>
> Personally I would prefer to enforce compliance but consider that reminders
> would be fairly effective.  My post listing the supporters is shown below.

I'm not sure whether it would be helpful if Kristy and I 
would try to persuade people *as list monitors*. I suppose
there are some people who simply forget about posting 
procedural matters to ga-rules: They will probably be happy
to go there if reminded in a friendly way, regardless whether
they get an official or private reminder. But people who 
dislike the whole idea will probably protest against any 
such action, pointing to the fact that there has not been
a vote and that it's not the list monitors' job to enforce
inofficial or provisional rules.

So I don't think it would be helpful to send semi-official
reminders -- private mails, e.g. pointing to Patrick's
agenda proposal, would probably be fine. The main thing is
to get discussion started on the ga-rules list: Once it is
up and going, it will probably be viewed as unfriendly act
to move it somewhere else.

Best regards,
/// Alexander

> Thanks again.

> Regards
> Patrick Corliss

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> Cc: [ga] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Motion Accepted


>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:33:50 EDT, Danny Younger wrote:
>>
>> > I have no objection to accepting the motion that you have proposed.
>> > At some point our Secretariat will advise when it is ready to once more
>> > support the activities of the General Assembly.  Perhaps we might be
>> > able to conclude a vote on this motion by early October (according to
>> > the most recent timetable put forth).  In the meantime, you may wish to
>> > get a "sense of the GA" on this topic through a poll.
>>
>> Thank you for your support and your comments.  By my count, there are
>> 18 declared supporters for the present proposal:
>>
>> *    Peter de Blanc
>> *    Roeland Meyer
>> *    Leah Gallegos
>> *    Jefsey Morfin
>> *    Ken Stubbs
>> *    William S. Lovell
>> *    Marilyn Cade
>> *    Ross Wm. Rader (for Tucows)
>> *    Bradley Thornton
>> *    Alexander Svensson
>> *    Michael McNulty
>> *    Joop Teernstra
>> *    Erica Roberts
>> *    Marc Schneiders
>> *    Vany Martinez
>> *    John C. Lewis
>> *    Derek Conant (with reservations)
>> *    Patrick Corliss (myself)
>>
>> I believe that we have sufficient mandate to request members to use the
>> [ga-rules] mailing list to debate procedural or other administrative
> issues
>> like websites, mailing lists, etc.
>>
>> > To facilitate that effort, and in response to the recommendation put
> forth
>> > by Bill Lovell to create our own website, I have begun building such a
>> > site (with an area devoted to current motions).  You may visit
>> > http://www.icannworld.org to see the results of my efforts over the
>> > course of this weekend.
>>
>> I would, of course, thank both Bill Lovell and yourself, as well as Joanna
>> Lane, for your kind efforts.
>>
>> One wonders why we cannot incorporate these initiatives into the current
>> DNSO website.  I see this as an issue that needs to be discussed on the
>> [ga-rules] mailing list.
>>
>> > Clicking on the General Assembly Link will take you to the page that
>> > leads you to the Straw Poll.
>>
>> Thank you.  At least we start with the 18 names above (19 if we include
>> yourself) in favour of discussing non-substantive issues on the [ga-rules]
>> mailing list.
>>
>> I see that as sufficient mandate to encourage compliance with this motion.
>>
>> > Best regards,
>> > Danny
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Patrick Corliss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>




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