Re: [ga-abuse] The Art of Persuasion

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

Hi Alexander

I trust your judgment and would ask you to assist in the most
"user-friendly" way that you feel comfortable with.

That might mean simply helping to reply to GA posts on the [ga-rules]
mailing list if you think that would help.  Bill Lovell has done that a few
times.

The main danger was from Jefsey who would re-post from the sublists to the
main GA.  As he has offered his support for the motion, I think he is less
likely to do that now.

You might also wish to participate generally in discussion on [ga-rules]
about the lists.  I'd value your views on issues such as including the
sublists on [ga-full].

Anyway, let's see what happens ;-)

Best wishes
Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Svensson <svensson@icannchannel.de>
To: <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] The Art of Persuasion


>
> Hello Patrick!
>
> Patrick Corliss wrote on 17.07.01, 14:44:05:
> > The list rules provide that issues must be on topic to the business on
the
> > GA.  Have you any view on the idea of the List Monitors encouraging
> > people to use [ga-rules] for debate on procedural issues?
> >
> > Personally I would prefer to enforce compliance but consider that
reminders
> > would be fairly effective.  My post listing the supporters is shown
below.
>
> I'm not sure whether it would be helpful if Kristy and I
> would try to persuade people *as list monitors*. I suppose
> there are some people who simply forget about posting
> procedural matters to ga-rules: They will probably be happy
> to go there if reminded in a friendly way, regardless whether
> they get an official or private reminder. But people who
> dislike the whole idea will probably protest against any
> such action, pointing to the fact that there has not been
> a vote and that it's not the list monitors' job to enforce
> inofficial or provisional rules.
>
> So I don't think it would be helpful to send semi-official
> reminders -- private mails, e.g. pointing to Patrick's
> agenda proposal, would probably be fine. The main thing is
> to get discussion started on the ga-rules list: Once it is
> up and going, it will probably be viewed as unfriendly act
> to move it somewhere else.
>
> Best regards,
> /// Alexander
>
> > Thanks again.
>
> > Regards
> > Patrick Corliss
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> > To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> > Cc: [ga] <ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Motion Accepted
>
>
> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:33:50 EDT, Danny Younger wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have no objection to accepting the motion that you have proposed.
> >> > At some point our Secretariat will advise when it is ready to once
more
> >> > support the activities of the General Assembly.  Perhaps we might be
> >> > able to conclude a vote on this motion by early October (according to
> >> > the most recent timetable put forth).  In the meantime, you may wish
to
> >> > get a "sense of the GA" on this topic through a poll.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your support and your comments.  By my count, there are
> >> 18 declared supporters for the present proposal:
> >>
> >> *    Peter de Blanc
> >> *    Roeland Meyer
> >> *    Leah Gallegos
> >> *    Jefsey Morfin
> >> *    Ken Stubbs
> >> *    William S. Lovell
> >> *    Marilyn Cade
> >> *    Ross Wm. Rader (for Tucows)
> >> *    Bradley Thornton
> >> *    Alexander Svensson
> >> *    Michael McNulty
> >> *    Joop Teernstra
> >> *    Erica Roberts
> >> *    Marc Schneiders
> >> *    Vany Martinez
> >> *    John C. Lewis
> >> *    Derek Conant (with reservations)
> >> *    Patrick Corliss (myself)
> >>
> >> I believe that we have sufficient mandate to request members to use the
> >> [ga-rules] mailing list to debate procedural or other administrative
> > issues
> >> like websites, mailing lists, etc.
> >>
> >> > To facilitate that effort, and in response to the recommendation put
> > forth
> >> > by Bill Lovell to create our own website, I have begun building such
a
> >> > site (with an area devoted to current motions).  You may visit
> >> > http://www.icannworld.org to see the results of my efforts over the
> >> > course of this weekend.
> >>
> >> I would, of course, thank both Bill Lovell and yourself, as well as
Joanna
> >> Lane, for your kind efforts.
> >>
> >> One wonders why we cannot incorporate these initiatives into the
current
> >> DNSO website.  I see this as an issue that needs to be discussed on the
> >> [ga-rules] mailing list.
> >>
> >> > Clicking on the General Assembly Link will take you to the page that
> >> > leads you to the Straw Poll.
> >>
> >> Thank you.  At least we start with the 18 names above (19 if we include
> >> yourself) in favour of discussing non-substantive issues on the
[ga-rules]
> >> mailing list.
> >>
> >> I see that as sufficient mandate to encourage compliance with this
motion.
> >>
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Danny
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >> Patrick Corliss
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
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