[ga-abuse] Re: Frequent abusers

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:01 AM (AEST), Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
Subject: Frequent abusers (Re: [ga-abuse] Jeff Williams)

> In order of severity, I think we have:
>
> - Joe Baptista
> - Jeff Williams
> - William Walsh
> - Eric Dierker
> - Sotiris, Dave Crocker, Roeland Meyer, Jefsey Morfin, Joop Ternstra,
> Patrick Corliss +++++ - all of which are capable of acting before thinking
> when provoked.
>
> There are 2 different roles a suspension may serve:
>
> - Allowing a person to cool down (this would have served Eric well - if he
>    could have stayed offlist until the medication kicked back in, or
whatever
>    happened to him)
> - Getting rid of permanent troublemakers in a fair manner
>
> Given that we are one management team, I would suggest that we take it on
> ourselves that once a troublemaker is suspended at least from the GA list
> and 2 sublists, we can block him from all GA lists.
>
> This will ensure that most "occasional flamers" are banned in only one
> place, and that consistent troublemakers know that they can be banned from
> all lists.

Alexander and Others

I hope I am not being misunderstood here.  I was responding to Harald's post
(cited above) in which he was analysing our rationale in relation to
"frequent abusers".  I do not mean to suggest that we should just take it
upon ourselves to selectively ban people without due process.

Of course, there are rules and of course there are complaints !!

What I was suggesting is that our policies (eg. doubling the penalty on each
occasion) must be designed in a way to minimise deliberate disruption to the
list.  As I have pointed out, Jeff Williams. for example, cross posts to
everyone possible.  When cross-posting is prohibited, he posts the same
message separately as in the following examples:

(1)    CROSS-POSTED TO GA AND NCDNHC-DISCUSS

To: Chris Chiu <CCHIU@aclu.org>
Cc: Ncdnhc-Discuss@Lyris. Isoc. Org (E-mail)
<ncdnhc-discuss@lyris.isoc.org>; John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>; John C
Klensin <klensin@mci.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: New multilingual domain name survey

To: General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:38 AM
Subject: [ga] Re: New multilingual domain name survey

(2)    CROSS-POSTED TO GA AND GA-ROOTS

To: <ga-roots@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: [ga-roots] New.net international TLD's and DN's

To: General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:44 PM
Subject: [ga] New.net international TLD's and DN's

(3)    CROSS-POSTED TO GA-ROOTS AND DOMAIN POLICY

To: babybows.com <webmaster@babybows.com>
Cc: <ga-roots@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ga-roots] New.net releases AOL compliant plug-in

To: <DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.NETSOL.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ga-roots] New.net releases AOL compliant plug-in

Just in case you get the idea that these were wonderful words of wisdom, the
following was one of the three messages:

> Thank you for forwarding this!  This is great news!  Well done
> New.Net!

When you include the individual cc's (or sometimes bcc's) there's a lot of
junk.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss