[ga-abuse] William Walsh is "On the Prowl"

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@corliss.net>]

Now William X. Walsh is on the prowl.  He has subscribed to the new lists.
I believe his posting ban expires on 2 May which is very soon now.

Can we get a determination befire he starts posting?

Regards
Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net>
Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Jeff Williams


> Interesting argument, Bruce.
>
> Each mailing list could have a separate moderator but the present tendency
> seems to be for people to subscribe to multiple lists.  They will
therefore
> see Jeff going through a whole charade on one list but when they look at
> another list, he will still be there.
>
> That will turn the whole thing into a bit of a joke.  And Jeff plays those
> games very well !!
>
> One way of looking at it is to say that the six new lists are sub-lists.
A
> suspension from the main list, as in this case, should automatically carry
> over to the lesser lists.
>
> Another way of looking at it is that the rule-breaker is a single person
> (not six) and has a conscience and free will to do what they like.  If
they
> know that an infringement on any list can get them banned from all lists,
> they will be much more careful, imo.
>
> You could say that all we are doing in splitting the single list into six.
> Before they would get banned from all at once because there was only one
> list.  Now they get six chances to break the rules.  As well, it will be
> administratively difficult to work out who is banned from which list when
> there are seven lists altogether (including [ga]) !!!
>
> And it will get harder for repeat offences.  A second offence on one list;
a
> third offence on another etc.   I really don't want to get into such a
> scenario.  Do you?
>
> We will spend all of our time just monitoring the lists.  Then there's the
> appeals !!
>
> We can't cope at the moment and there's only one list to consider.
>
> Regards
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net>
> To: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>; Alexander Svensson
> <svensson@icannchannel.de>
> Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Jeff Williams
>
>
> > It is my understanding that *only* the [ga-full] list is open to anyone
> > without rules.
> >
> > All of the *new* 6 MLs have the same rules of the [ga].
> >
> > I think each of the new ML should stand on its own. You should be able
to
> > post, until you break a rule on *that* List.....IMHO....:)
> >
> > /Bruce
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
> > To: "Alexander Svensson" <svensson@icannchannel.de>
> > Cc: "[ga-abuse]" <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 06:26
> > Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Jeff Williams
> >
> >
> > Hi Alexander
> >
> > Thank you for your efforts.  I'm sorry to confuse the two issues.  It
was
> > perhaps a coincidence if two genuine people both subscibed more or less
at
> > the same time.   However, I am always suspicious where JW is concerned
!!
> > Perhaps we should just wait and see?
> >
> > Jeff Williams is not only subscribed but he has also posted to two lists
> as
> > follows:
> >
> > [ga-ext]    http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-ext/Arc00/msg00003.html
> > [ga-roots] http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-roots/Arc00/msg00003.html
> >
> > As I recall Danny appointed me the list owner for admin purposes.  As
such
> I
> > received the following email (and others similar to it).   I will not
take
> > any "disciplinary" action without the approval of the List Monitors.
> > However, I don't mind the extra chore.
> >
> > From: <Majordomo@dnso.org>
> > To: <ga-ext-approval@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:00 AM
> > Subject: SUBSCRIBE ga-ext Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> >
> > > Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> has been added to ga-ext.
> > > No action is required on your part.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Patrick Corliss
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alexander Svensson <svensson@icannchannel.de>
> > To: <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Jeff Williams
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Patrick Corliss wrote on 01.05.01, 16:08:41:
> > > > As perhaps expected, Jeff Williams has subscribed to the six new
> mailing
> > > > lists as has a person called Nestor Requeno <nestor1995@yahoo.com>.
I
> > have
> > > > no idea whether this is a false identity.
> > >
> > > AFAIK, the mail address Nestor1995@aol.com (note: AOL)
> > > is registered in the GA voting registry. A "Nestor Requeno,
> > > Member @ Large, Los Angeles, California, USA" has been
> > > providing online comments in Yokohama.
> > > A Google search for Nestor Requeno turns up a number of
> > > pages using Nestor1995@aol.com:
> > >   http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/campus/6964/
> > >   http://www.cyberg8t.com/hoffman/
> > > Nestor Requeno appears to be or have been a student
> > >   http://som.csudh.edu/dkarber/501f97p.htm
> > >
> > > Maybe Nestor Requeno @AOL is real and @Yahoo is a
> > > fake by Jeff Williams?
> > >
> > > Patrick: Could you tell us how you found out that
> > > it is Jeff Williams who subscribed?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > /// Alexander
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>