Re: [ga-abuse] [Admin M1] Cases Against William Walsh

[k@widgital.com (Kristy McKee)]

I agree with your decision to issue a mild warning because of your rational.

:)

~k

At 10:51 AM 6/21/2001 +0200, you wrote:

> > Date:  June 19
> > M1:  Kristy Mckee
> > Complainant:  Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> > Complainant Comment:  "The following post is a slanderous personal attack.
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02479.html
> >
> > Substantiation is promised, but this promise  remains of
> > course  unfulfilled. (because it cannot be found)
> > I have never subverted the will of the majority of the idno members.
> >
> > If Eric Dierker is suspended for personal attacks, how much more should
> > Walsh be."
> > Against:  William Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
>
> > Message:  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02479.html
> > Injury:  "Mr Teernstra's history with the IDNO is anything but positive.
> > At this moment I do not have the time to give a full accounting of why, but
> > I will take this time either later today or tomorrow.
> > Normally such a detailed critique of a person might not be appropriate, but
> > since he is being put forward ostensibly to represent the GA's views, I
> > think it is entirely appropriate to go into how this person's history shows
> > that he goes his own way, even in defiance of a majority of those he
> > represents, simply because he believes that his views are right and he
> > knows better what is in their best interest than they do. I will do a more
> > detailed analysis, with references from the historical IDNO mailing list
> > archives very soon.
> > Instead, I put forward the name of David Farrar, who has shown a top notch
> > commitment as well to the cause of domain owners in the DNSO, and despite
> > the fact that I disagree with him on some of the CORE issues surrounding
> > that subject, Mr Farrar has shown through his actions and history to be
> > above reproach and a man who cares about his responsibilities to those he
> > is representing, and takes those responsibilities seriously, without trying
> > to advance his own agenda at their expense."
>
> > Injured:  Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> > Judgment:  Suspension
> > ----------
> > ----------
>
>Comment:
>In this particular case, Joop is something like
>a candidate for public office. I don't think this
>makes him fair game, but in my view, William X.
>Walsh stays exactly at the limit. Two sentences
>contain criticism:
>"Mr Teernstra's history with the IDNO is anything but
>positive."
>"he goes his own way, even in defiance of a majority of
>those he represents, simply because he believes that his
>views are right and he knows better what is in their best
>interest than they do."
>
>In my view (open for debate!), this kind of 'warning'
>against a person -- regardless of whether it is true or
>not (which is a matter which I cannot prove or disprove)
>-- is not inappropriate when that person stands for office.
>To be clear, I would be absolutely happy if the stupid
>IDNO-was-captured-no-it-wasn't-yes-it-was odyssey ended.
>But I think the barrier for a suspension is higher.
>
>Best regards,
>/// Alexander
>
> > ---------------------------------
> > -----------------------------------
> > Date:
> > M1:  Kristy Mckee
> > Complainant: Bruce
> > Against: William Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
> > Message:  too many
> > Injury:  11 posts to one list within 24 hours (June 17, ga-roots)
> > Injured:  GA DNSO
> > Judgment:  Ignore
> > M1 Comment:  I did not find any of his messages to be rude or 
> inappropriate.
>
> > Seems to me the only rule broken is the one we don't have posted on the web
> > site.  Eric's posts were offensive, difficult to understand, and seemingly
> > intentionally cruel:  these posts from William are not.
> > ------------
> > ------------
>M2: Alexander Svensson
>Action: Ignore
>Comment: Agree with M1 comment.