Re: [ga-abuse] Dispute resolution

[k@widgital.com (Kristy McKee)]

0)  Yikes!

1)  I recommend you use the "please pass the salt and pepper" 
approach.  This means it will take longer for you to write your messages; 
but considering how poorly you are communicating right now, I think this 
would be an improvement. AND NO SARCASM:  it is simply too difficult to 
understand and feel good about.

2)  Please set up a weekly real time chat or video conference with each other.

3)  Keep your communications private until you have made a joint decision 
you share and support each other with.

???

~k

At 02:03 PM 6/8/2001 -0400, Danny Younger wrote:
>Fellow members,
>
>I am forwarding to you comments sent to me by our Alternate Chair that are
>indicative of a problem.  This is not a formal complaint, but I do seek your
>guidance in this matter.   As Patrick has forwarded to this committee his
>"WARNING OF PUBLIC ATTACK", it is clear to my thinking that he considers the
>membership of this committee to constitute an appropriate forum for dispute
>resolution.  Although this is not your assigned task, any considered advice
>would be welcome.
>
>Best regards,
>Danny Younger
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alternate Chair [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:39 PM
>To: Jefsey Morfin, wanadoo
>Cc: Danny Younger
>Subject: Taking Out the Chair
>
>Hi Jefsey
>
>OK.  Now I agree that Danny is not doing a good job as Chair.  That would
>not matter if he listened-responded to constructive criticism from his
>friends.  But he won't.
>
>I can't believe how politically dumb he is.  So I am changing my approach.
>I will attack him mercilessly whenever I feel like it.  He is the one person
>I can safely attack.
>
>One problem that you both share is that your messages are too long and
>involved for people to understand.  That will be a theme of mine in dealing
>with you both.
>
>I am sending a copy to Danny so he understands.
>
>Without being (a) long or (b) rude, please explain what you want.
>
>Best regards
>Patrick Corliss
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alternate Chair [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:37 PM
>To: Danny Younger
>Subject: Fuck You Danny
>
>Dear Danny
>
>You don't get it, do you?  You don't support me one little bit.  You never
>consult with me.  Elisabeth won't do what she's told to do.  Everybody on
>the list is attacking me.  Half the list is confused about where to post.
>There
>are too many lists and you start another.  We have only got one half-hearted
>sublist Chair.  You've made no attempt to help me with the *bounces* and
>other list management tasks.  There are no "terms of reference" for the
>individual lists.  And then you attack me publicly !!
>
>The result is that WXW wants to close the lists down.  Which will mean that
>the the whole GA will fall into a bottomless pit of valueless discussion.
>
>The only way we are ever going to succeed is by working together.  With both
>of us "working" the lists.  Not just issuing pompous pronouncements which
>are usually not worth reading.
>
>You're lucky I don't post this publicly.  I expect to hear from you within
>24 hours.  Please re-evaluate your approach.
>
>Patrick
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alternate Chair [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 AM
>To: Danny Younger
>Cc: [ga-abuse]; Elisabeth Porteneuve
>Subject: WARNING OF PUBLIC ATTACK
>
>Hi Danny
>
>Can you advise me what the procedures are for setting up new mailing lists,
>please.  I have been very careful not to criticise you in public but I am
>rather annoyed that a new mailing list was set up without any consultation.
>Did you instruct Elisabeth Porteneuve to do this?
>
>What is the point of setting up new sublists if you, our Chair, won't use
>them yourself?  More to the point, why do you not communicate with your own
>Alternative Chair.
>
>How is it that you get Elisabeth to do what you want when I have been asking
>for weeks to eliminate the returned mail and other junk.  Does Elisabeth get
>a copy of the two hundred returned emails I get a day because Roeland Meyer
>has problems with his servers?  Do you get them?
>
>As I do not get any response from you in private I will wait a few days
>until you are settled in after Stockholm and then attack you in public.
>Meanwhile:
>
>PLEASE DON"T YOU OR ELISABETH DO STUFF WITHOUT TALKING TO ME FIRST.
>
>I'm fed up with your "big chief" attitude, believe me.
>
>Regards
>Patrick Corliss