[ga-abuse] Dispute resolution

["Danny Younger" <webmaster@babybows.com>]

Fellow members,

I am forwarding to you comments sent to me by our Alternate Chair that are
indicative of a problem.  This is not a formal complaint, but I do seek your
guidance in this matter.   As Patrick has forwarded to this committee his
"WARNING OF PUBLIC ATTACK", it is clear to my thinking that he considers the
membership of this committee to constitute an appropriate forum for dispute
resolution.  Although this is not your assigned task, any considered advice
would be welcome.

Best regards,
Danny Younger

-----Original Message-----
From: Alternate Chair [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:39 PM
To: Jefsey Morfin, wanadoo
Cc: Danny Younger
Subject: Taking Out the Chair

Hi Jefsey

OK.  Now I agree that Danny is not doing a good job as Chair.  That would
not matter if he listened-responded to constructive criticism from his
friends.  But he won't.

I can't believe how politically dumb he is.  So I am changing my approach.
I will attack him mercilessly whenever I feel like it.  He is the one person
I can safely attack.

One problem that you both share is that your messages are too long and
involved for people to understand.  That will be a theme of mine in dealing
with you both.

I am sending a copy to Danny so he understands.

Without being (a) long or (b) rude, please explain what you want.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss
-----Original Message-----
From: Alternate Chair [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:37 PM
To: Danny Younger
Subject: Fuck You Danny

Dear Danny

You don't get it, do you?  You don't support me one little bit.  You never
consult with me.  Elisabeth won't do what she's told to do.  Everybody on
the list is attacking me.  Half the list is confused about where to post.
There
are too many lists and you start another.  We have only got one half-hearted
sublist Chair.  You've made no attempt to help me with the *bounces* and
other list management tasks.  There are no "terms of reference" for the
individual lists.  And then you attack me publicly !!

The result is that WXW wants to close the lists down.  Which will mean that
the the whole GA will fall into a bottomless pit of valueless discussion.

The only way we are ever going to succeed is by working together.  With both
of us "working" the lists.  Not just issuing pompous pronouncements which
are usually not worth reading.

You're lucky I don't post this publicly.  I expect to hear from you within
24 hours.  Please re-evaluate your approach.

Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: Alternate Chair [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 AM
To: Danny Younger
Cc: [ga-abuse]; Elisabeth Porteneuve
Subject: WARNING OF PUBLIC ATTACK

Hi Danny

Can you advise me what the procedures are for setting up new mailing lists,
please.  I have been very careful not to criticise you in public but I am
rather annoyed that a new mailing list was set up without any consultation.
Did you instruct Elisabeth Porteneuve to do this?

What is the point of setting up new sublists if you, our Chair, won't use
them yourself?  More to the point, why do you not communicate with your own
Alternative Chair.

How is it that you get Elisabeth to do what you want when I have been asking
for weeks to eliminate the returned mail and other junk.  Does Elisabeth get
a copy of the two hundred returned emails I get a day because Roeland Meyer
has problems with his servers?  Do you get them?

As I do not get any response from you in private I will wait a few days
until you are settled in after Stockholm and then attack you in public.
Meanwhile:

PLEASE DON"T YOU OR ELISABETH DO STUFF WITHOUT TALKING TO ME FIRST.

I'm fed up with your "big chief" attitude, believe me.

Regards
Patrick Corliss