Re: [ga-abuse] M2 Against Eric Dierker

[k@widgital.com (Kristy McKee)]

At 07:43 PM 8/29/2001 +0200, Alexander Svensson wrote:

> > M1:  Kristy McKee
> > Date:  8/29/01
> > Against:  Eric Dierker, eric@hi-tek.com
> > Complainant:  Kent Crispin, kent@songbird.com
> > Complainant Comment:  I wish to register a complaint about the attached
> > message.  Phrases like "criminally a misrepresentation at least", "you
> > blather on", "tantamount to complicity" etc cannot be construed as anything
> > other than personal attack.
> >
> > URL:  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00902.html
> >
> > Injury:  Personal Attack
> > Action:  Warning
> > Comment:  This discussion between Mr. Walsh and Mr. Dierker was
> > hostile.  Both engaged in personal attacks and some of the messages lack
> > relevance to the business of the GA.
>
>M2: Alexander Svensson
>Comment: Agreed, it is a personal attack.
>Action:  (Strong) warning (unless it's pointless due to
>action on other pending complaints)
>
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> > M1:  Kristy McKee
> > Date:  8/29/01
> > Against:  Eric Dierker, eric@hi-tek.com
> > Complainant:  William Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
> > Complainant Comment:  This is why moderators should be free to act
> > independently.  How long as you going to subject the list to this kind of
> > abuse before acting? The rules NEVER indicated that moderators had to act
> > by committee, this is something you guys created.  All it takes is for you
> > moderators to start acting on your own.  Same violation as before, he is
> > asking to be removed, give him what he wants.
> >
> > URL:  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00902.html
> >
> > Injury:  Personal Attack; however, that is not what WXW is complaining
> > about.  His complaint is about the LMCs process.  This is a discussion for
> > the ga-rules list.  Also Mr. Walsh's response to Eric's message should be
> > noted:  "Get some Facts, Eric. You obviously have no knowledge how the
> > systems in question work, when you do, come back and we'll discuss it
> > intelligently."
> > [http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00904.html]  This is a personal
> > attack only.
> > Action:  Ignore
>
>M2: Alexander Svensson
>Comment: "Same violation as before" seems to indicate
>that William Walsh is complaining about the previous
>alleged violation: another personal attack. If someone
>just sends us the URL, we should reach the same action
>as we do when we receive a lengthy, heated explanation.
>Action: This complaint is already dealt with, see above:
>(Strong) warning.

Mr. Dierker,

>We have received complaints about the message 
>http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00902.html.  We also note that 
>one of the complainants was participating in a disagreement with you at 
>the time and only this post was sent to a monitored list.  He has received 
>a warning as well.

Please take care to keep arguments off the monitored lists.  It is 
difficult to construe insulting communication as anything other than a 
personal attack.

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