[ga-abuse] Sorting things out...

[Alexander Svensson <svensson@icannchannel.de>]

This is just a first list of the last complaints flood
without recommendations, but with the URLs.

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(1)
Against: William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
Complainants: Roeland Meyer, rmeyer@mhsc.com
Complainant Comments:
> Mr. Walsh is about to re-open a not-so-old wound and to breach a truce. I
> think that he should be warned. Old IDNO business is in the past. WXW has
> exhibited stalking behavior wrt Joop before and on this very list.

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00672.html
> Correction, a small handful of people, most of whom have not actively
> participated in the IDNO in MANY months, voted that there is no reason
> NOT to join the NCDNHC.
>
> What even those small handful did not decide was that you should
> represent them or be the recipient of the money from the Salzburg
> Institute.
>
> As a member of the IDNO, I intend to make the Salzburg institute aware
> of the facts about your claim.
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(2)
Against: Jeff Williams, jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Complainants: William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com

--> Jeff is still suspended and the posting rules don't
apply to GA-full.
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(3)
Against: Luc Mangin, luc.mangin@telepost.fr
Complainants: William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
Complainant Comments:
> What does this have to do with the business of the GA?

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00712.html
> Dear Mr Gomes,
>
> I'll use the diplomatic langage throught the world  since centuries !!!
> (If u cannot I'm convinced people around u can do)
>
> Trés étonné de votre réaction de "haut" fonctionnaire d'une holding d'un
> Ministère (de la Défense) Américain(e), je parle de la provenance de vos
> budgets, de vos stratégies, de vos objectifs compréhensibles des protections
> d'intêret, il me semble regretable que votre esprit Impérialiste ne peut
> comprendre les besoins exprimés.
> Votre sponsoring de $8000 pour cette manifestation n'est pas à la hauteur de
> votre projet, vous devriait les inviter ...

William X. Walsh has provided a rough-n-dirty translation:
Trés astonished by your reaction of " high " civil servant of a
holding of a Ministry (of Defense) Américain(e), I speak about the
source of your budgets, your strategies, your comprehensible
objectives of protections of intêret, it seems to me regretable that
your Impérialiste spirit cannot include/understand the expressed
needs. Your sponsoring of $8000 for this demonstration is not with the
height of your project, devriait you to invite them...


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(4)
Against: Russ Smith, admin@consumer.net
Complainants: William S. Lovell, wsl@cerebalaw.com
Complainant Comments:
> Another complaint against Russ Smith (admin).  This one happens
> to involve me personally, and I believe it does constitute "slander"
> -- actually libel.  (Opinion cannot be defamatory (which includes
> both slander and libel); expressing something as actual fact can be.).

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00715.html
> Let's get realistic.  Fraud, deception, and intentionally misrepresenting
> the law is the norm in the Intellectual Property legal community.  The
> corruption is so engrained into the system that it has turned into the
> normal way of doing business.  The attorneys who make these excuses or
> pretend that it doesn't happen are just as bad, and just as responsible, as
> the attorneys who have actually engaged in the practices.  While it is not
> every single on, it is the majority.
>
> I am in the process of pursing bar association complaints against several
> attorneys involved in some of the most egregious and ridiculous claims (with
> both the state bar assns. as well as the USPTO) and you would not believe
> the excuses and circular arguments I received.  These people will do or say
> anything to help protect their fellow lawyers.
>
> This is not "slander," it is FACT and every single trademark lawyers knows
> it.


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(5)
Against: William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
Complainants: Joop Teerstra, terastra@terabytz.co.nz

> Mr Walsh is again indulging in unsubstatiated accusations against a GA
> member. He has been warned and removed before.
> Please take action to free the GA from this  kind of ad hominem "argument".
> [...]
> I filter Walsh, but others don't. This kind of postings has a chilling
> effect on the free expression of others, who may be afraid to be subjected
> to this kind of abuse.

Messages:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00674.html
>Joop champions only his own view, and his own agenda.  You may not
>have the full picture of the IDNO, Peter, and as such your view is not
>really a complete one.  You have no idea of the manipulations that
>Joop has perpetrated inside the IDNO, and why many take exception to
>him and repeatedly self-claims to be the IDNO representative or the
>person who speaks on behalf of domain owners.
>
> > What objection to you have against Joop receiving travel subsidy?
>
>That he is using the IDNO name to get it, and he has no authority to
>do that, to use our names to get his expenses paid so he can further
>his own agenda.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00675.html
>No, he claimed to strive for that, what he was really building was a
>structure where he was the effective leader, and that anything that he
>didn't think was in the best interests of domain holders (regardless
>of what they thought) he could sabotage, and use his position as
>"Founder/Bootstrap" to justify his unilateral actions.

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(6)
Against: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
Complainants: William X Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
Complainant Comments:
> Personal attack.  'Nuff said.

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00735.html
> How does this "issue" relate to the business of the GA William?  Why don't you
> confine yourself to raving on the IDNO list and spare the GA list members the
> claptrap...

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(7)

Against: Sotiris Sotiropoulos, sotiris@hermesnetwork.com
Complainants: William X Walsh, william@userfriendly.com

> Clearly a personal attack, 'Nuff Said.

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00741.html
>> Your other comments will, I'm sure, be the subject of complaint and I
>> have no need to comment on them.
>
> A complaint?!?!  For what exactly? LOL  You and WXW make me laugh!!! LOL
> <sides hurting, rolls onto the floor>
>
> Let me make my own complaint to the GA as a whole.  I want to complain about
> the lack of ANYTHING constructive, or HELPFUL, or even remotely SUBSTANTIVE
> offered by WXW in his myriad of posts to the GA List to date. (I challenge
> anyone to find *anything* which remotely resembles substantive or constructive
> input from WXW in the DNSO archives!)  I think it's unfair and despicable
> behaviour to pollute GA List Member mailboxes with the sort of postings WXW is
> famous for...  I think it would be a good idea if we held an on-list
> ostracism.  My ostraka reads: WXW
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen, is there anybody who thinks that internal IDNO-related
> matters have a place on the DNSO GA List?  I may be missing something here,
> but I don't think they do...
>
> Dassa and WXW, this is my last post on this
> topic/issue/thread/whatever-you-like so go ahead and take your potshots as
> such activity will clearly emphasize my point.

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(8)

Against: William X Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
Complainants: Roeland Meyer, rmeyer@mhsc.com
Complainant Comments:
> Joop, when are you going to learn to ignore this stuff?
> William, I don't wish to see a re-hash of the IDNO list bullshit.
>
> I specifically turned down an invite to the new IDNO list because I was
> extremely burnt-out with the antics of the last IDNO list. William, whatever
> respect I ever had for you is long gone, as a direct result of what you did
> there. I don't want to argue that either, all of us know what you did, why
> you did it, ad nauseum. Basically, I am sick and tired of the bickering,
> plotting wheedling, and all that this behaviour brings to a list. It is
> socially unacceptable. It is the equivalent of starting a bar fight at a
> Sunday church picnic.
>
> Basically, targeting an individual with your hate-mongering tactics, like
> you are doing to Joop, is considered stalking behavior by many.
>
> All Joop did was arrange funding for his ICANN trip. Are you jealous? Why
> don't you do it yourself? MdR was easy driving range for you, why weren't
> you there? Why can't you let well-enough alone? More importantly, why do you
> feel the right to subject the rest of us to your inadequacies and other
> bullshit?
>
> Please consider this a GA list complaint. Yes, I know that you've already
> been evicted.

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00748.html
> You got this a little mixed up.  The order of events is wrong.
>
> You came back and made yourself the leader of the IDNO again, on your
> own initiative, and THEN you were engaged by me challenging your
> actions.
>
> You can't use my challenge as the justification for your coming back,
> when the order of events doesn't support it.
>
> You can't rewrite the history so easily this time.

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(9)

Against: Roeland Meyer, rmeyer@mhsc.com
Complainants: William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com

The complaint is about (8) which was not sent to a GA list.
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(10)
Against: Russ Smith, admin@consumer.net
Complainants: William S. Lovell, wsl@cerebalaw.com
Complainant Comments:
> Personal attack, and uncalled for.

Message:
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg00767.html
>>  Of course, we all recognize that
>>AT&T is also a communications company, as well as a web hosting, business
>>user, and Internet company. \
>
> I thought their main business was telemarketing???
>
> Cade is also involved in ensuring that corporations like AT&T have
> unfettered access to the personal information for individuals.  Cade lobbies
> to make sure that no laws get passed that will place any restrictions on how
> personal information is used by companies such as AT&T.
>
> I have seen Cade in action here in Washington.  You should see how these
> people operate.  You cannot believe anything these people say ... and I mean
> anything.  Their allegiance is to their corporation and their stockholders.
> They don't care about anybody or anything else.  Many of them know little or
> nothing about what they are talking about.  All they know is how to suck up
> to those who have some power.  Lobbying, policy development and advocacy are
> exactly the same thing.  let's just say you lie on behalf of your parent
> company.
>
> AT&T is in constant litigation because they cannot tell the truth and cannot
> follow the law over violating privacy laws.  I took them before the FCC and
> they were found guilty of violating privacy laws.  They still break these
> laws and then lie about it (as anyone with a telephone can attest).
>
> see http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Enforcement/Orders/1999/fcc99401.txt
>
> Why should anyone believe anything said by an AT&T lobbyist is beyond me.
> How can anyone be so stupid as to believe these people?
>
> But hey, if you have something to sell give ole Marilyn a call as I am sure
> she loves telemarketing calls
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