[ga-abuse] RE: [ga] King Philip's Proclamation to the Colony

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

Hi Thomas

I am quite surprised at your flame as I thought that's what you wanted to
avoid.  It is really a case of the pot calling the kettle black!!

The GA is dysfunctional and I am trying to get it to work.  The DNSO
Secretariat refuses any simple request and, as a result, we cannot even get
cross-posting rules implemented.  As well, I have been subjected to abuse
and attack by William X. Walsh and others since day one.

His intention is, and always has been, to force our resignations.  He was
just biding his time waiting for the opportunity to make that demand.

Until a day or so ago my onlist posts have been a model of courtesy.  I also
spend a lot of time making things work.  You know that from our private
correspondence.  But when I take a stand for the GA, you join the attack.

It is my view that the sublists are the only way to get things sorted out.
You should understand the list dynamics -- people follow the previous
poster.  Jefsey has undertaken to wreck the system.  He's succeeding.

> While I concur that the NC doesn't do a good job in helping to
> manage the GA, I have to note that the GA's current chairs are doing
> the worst job ever at this.

I had hoped you might help us.  I forced a showdown with the NC just to
get us in a position where we could ask Elisabeth to do what any service
provider would do as a matter of course.  You know that quite well.

If I am doing a poor job it is only because the task I am trying to do is
beyond anyone's capability.  There is too much vested interest against
the GA working.  Just try to think of the billions of  $ involved.  And then
examine our lack of resources and dependency on the Names Council.

In fact, it would be easy for me just to sit back, relax and enjoy the fun.
Long before I ever started the GA was not working.  Blaming me, after
two or three months, is quite unjust.  It failed long before I started.

Without our own funds, or support from the NC, we are doomed.

And the *hidden agenda* antagonists will have succeeded.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss


----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
To: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] King Philip's Proclamation to the Colony


> President Younger declared:
>
> >We commoners, the "public" in "public-benefit corporation", have
> >no voting rights whatsoever.
>
> First of all, the GA is certainly NOT the >> "public" in
> "public-benefit corporation" << as you like to put it. Instead, it's
> where the interested part of this public should assemble for
> reasonable and thoughtful debate on all kinds of issues of the DNSO
> - which obviously doesn't happen.
>
> Anyway - may I suggest an experiment?  Just try to look at the GA's
> exchanges with the eyes of someone who's fairly new to but actually
> interested in ICANN matters, and expects a working GA.  You'd be
> extremely disappointed.
>
>
> Instead of respectful debate, you'd find idiotic flame wars.
>
> Instead of a reasonable exchange of opinions between constituencies,
> you'd notice that the GA's co-chairs are apparently fighting the
> NC's chair and the NC in general - that is, of course, the council
> of SO representatives.
>
> Instead of an open and intelligent debate on issues, you'd find
> campaigning and procedural concerns.  (Just look at the "discussion"
> on HR 2417.)
>
> Instead of chairs who try to moderate the discussion (this is
> distinct from moderating the list in the technical sense!), you'd
> find chairs who contribute to the noise themselves.
>
>
> While I concur that the NC doesn't do a good job in helping to
> manage the GA, I have to note that the GA's current chairs are doing
> the worst job ever at this.
>
> --
> Thomas Roessler                        http://log.does-not-exist.org/
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