Re: [ga-abuse] [ADMIN M1]Case Against Thomas Roessler

[Alexander Svensson <svensson@icannchannel.de>]

> Date:  June 20
> M1:  Kristy McKee
> Complainant:  Jefsey Morfin
> Complainant Comment:  "We are supposed to be a courteous forum for common
> exchange of ideas. I am sure that Thomas Roessler do not realize what he is
> doing. It is a pure attack of one of the Member which may also be of real
> importance on her business and reputation."
> Against:  Thomas Roessler
> Injury:  From Message:  "Given Ben Edelman's excellent timeline of your
> "TLD business", I think I have to say it now: Your version of .biz is
> nothing more than a toy - and it certainly was nothing more than a toy in
> November 2000.  Your story that ICANN creates a collision with an
> "operational TLD" looks like it's a very strong distortion of reality, even
> when I apply UNREALISTICALLY LOW standards of "operational".

> Anyway: For economical reasons, you don't have a chance with your .biz.
> After having read Ben's report, I have to add that this is a good thing."
> Message:  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-roots/Arc00/mail.html
> Injured:  Leah Gallegos
> Judgment:  Warning
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M2: Alexander Svensson
Action: Warning (see comment)
Comment: I think we have to be very careful not to
curb discussion about the behaviour of *companies*
or *organizations*. If we want to be able to criticize
VeriSign and/or ICANN, he have to be able to criticize
AtlanticRoot as well; there is a difference between
personal attacks and attacks on businesses, and I
think the GA rules are not there to protect a
members' business. At most, I would warn Thomas (rather
leniently) to make sure that his criticism
differentiates between persons (Leah Gallegos) and
companies (ARNI), even if this may not always be easy.

What do the others think about that?
Best regards,
/// Alexander


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> ----------------------
> Date:  June 20
> M1:  Kristy McKee
> Complainant:  Leah Gallegos
> Complainant Comment:  "Insulting enough?  IMO it beats Eric's posts.  He
> has more than
> once impuned my business and implied rather unsavory tactics.
> Between Roessler and Crispin, slander is a hobby.

> FYI:  Simon's post was accurate in terms of timeline and truth.

> There are enough issues to be debated without slander and
> distortions."
> Against:  Thomas Roessler
> Injury:  From Message:  "Given Ben Edelman's excellent timeline of your
> "TLD business", I think I have to say it now: Your version of .biz is
> nothing more than a toy - and it certainly was nothing more than a toy in
> November 2000.  Your story that ICANN creates a collision with an
> "operational TLD" looks like it's a very strong distortion of reality, even
> when I apply UNREALISTICALLY LOW standards of "operational".

> Anyway: For economical reasons, you don't have a chance with your .biz.
> After having read Ben's report, I have to add that this is a good thing."
> Message:  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-roots/Arc00/mail.html
> Judgment:  Warning
> ------------
> ------------
> M2:
> Action:
> Comment:

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> The message's public page has not been made yet, so I enclosed a copy of
> the message:
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> The Message:
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> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:08:48 +0200
> From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> To: L Gallegos <jandl@jandl.com>
> Cc: ga-roots@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga-roots] ICANN Policy -- revised version
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> Leah "they've taken away my copy of their .biz - help!" Gallegos wrote:

>>>>Let me just say that I would prefer to discuss serious issues without
>>>>the insults and sarcasm attached.  We have not misconfigured anything or
>>>>pretend anything.

> I responded:

>>>I didn't say you have a misconfigured intranet out there.

>>>I also didn't say you pretend anything.

> Given Ben Edelman's excellent timeline of your "TLD business", I think I
> have to say it now: Your version of .biz is nothing more than a toy - and
> it certainly was nothing more than a toy in November 2000.  Your story that
> ICANN creates a collision with an "operational TLD" looks like it's a very
> strong distortion of reality, even when I apply UNREALISTICALLY LOW
> standards of "operational".

> Anyway: For economical reasons, you don't have a chance with your .biz.
> After having read Ben's report, I have to add that this is a good thing.

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> Thomas Roessler                        http://log.does-not-exist.org/
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