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Re: [ga-abuse] Complaint Against Jeff Williams
I would propose a suspension.
/Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: "[ga-abuse]" <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 04:44
Subject: [ga-abuse] Complaint Against Jeff Williams
Complaint Against Jeff Williams
Grounds: Personal Attack, Insults and Slander
That I am "particularly abusive towards the assembly members".
That I am not deserving or necessary to attend etc.
Please note the rules do not say "except for the Alternate Chair".
Regards
Patrick Corliss
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: [ga] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Sinking The Titanic (was The Tower of Babble)
> Patrick and all assembly members,
>
> Patrick Corliss wrote:
>
> > Dear Sotiris
> >
> > On Sun, 27 May 2001 19:48:20 -0400, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> >
> > > The GA has disintegrated into babble, pure and simple. I ascribe
this, in
> > > large part, to no clear program of work. The coming meeting in
Stockholm
> > > may only serve to emphasize this point. How can the GA expect to be
taken
> > > seriously, when its own members no longer take it seriously, and even
> > question
> > > its credibility?
> >
> > In which case the naysayers will have succeeded in THEIR hidden agemda.
>
> What is an "Agemda"? Do you mean AGENDA here Patrick. If so,
> your characterization of those that do not share your AGENDA's, and
> which ever one is the REAL one you aspire to, I find that particularly
> abusive towards the assembly members... I for one would appreciate
> you discontinuing this sort of baiting or characterization in the
negative.
>
> >
> >
> > > Mssrs. Chair, and Alt-Chair, outcome reflects on leadership. Don't
get
> > carried
> > > away with the party-favours and other mementos of the occasion... I
will
> > be
> > > watching the webcast closely, as will many others. Perhaps we will
add
> > our
> > > voices in the public participation.
> >
> > I don't know why you are so presumptious. First I am not going to
Stockholm
> > as the DNSO GA has no money and only one person on the list cared enough
to
> > do anything about it.
>
> The ICANN BoD is supposed to fund such trips for those whom they
> feel are deserving and necessary to attend. I believe you were
> turned down as a result of one or the other of these conditions when
> you requested funding to go to Stockholm.
>
> >
> >
> > Second, I haven't been to a party of any sort in 10 years. Or the
movies.
> > Or anywhere exciting. Last time in Melbourne I stayed in the cheapest
hotel
> > in the City where I couldn't afford to buy breakfast for 4 days. I
survived
> > on the free snacks. So I'm not doing that again !!
>
> That was a very bad financial decision on your part Patrick. Planning
> you expenses for any trip of that nature is paramount to a successful
> trip. This does not speak well for you financial judgment...
>
> >
> >
> > Third, it's easy to blame the leadership. Where's your support? Your
input
> > lately?
>
> Support for what? For whom perhaps?
>
> >
> >
> > It's like a sinking ship. We are all in this together. Sure the
Captain
> > can stand there and say "To the liferafts !!" but when everybody argues
> > which way to go, who's going to be in charge of the liferafts, why
weren't
> > they repaired and provisioned, etc. we will all drown.
>
> First of all this is not a ship. Second if for the sake of discussion
here,
> the life rafts, if you will, were not provisioned, it would be proper to
ask
> why not, don't you think? I do.
>
> >
> >
> > Of course it is easy to blame the Captain.
>
> What Captain? You? If so , I don't think so, Patrick.
>
> > It doesn't matter that he just
> > took over and that nobody ever listened to him in the first place.
>
> I think most participants here are willing to listen. As to acting,
that is
> another
> matter entirely.
>
> >
> >
> > So the Captain comes over to take charge of the out-of-control situation
> > saying "OK, you can be in charge of that liferaft". What happens?
>
> Again do you invasion yourself as the "Captain"? Your not.
>
> >
> >
> > You guessed it !! Everybody says either (a) Who put you in charge? OR
(b)
> > No, we don't agree with your choice and we will do everything in our
power t
> > o undermine it.
>
> Undermine? I don't think so here either. Question, yes. Undermine,
no?
>
> >
> >
> > So the ship sinks and we all drown -- not "babble" but "burble".
> >
> > . . . . burble . . . burble . . . burble. . . . glug !!
>
> Great theatrics here. However I fail to see the connection really nor
> how it is very helpful. Such theatrics also do not show good leadership
> traits either....
>
> >
> >
> > I call upon all fair-minded persons to stop flaming the leadership so
that
> > there will be some chance that we might be able to achieve something
> > worthwhile in Stockholm.
>
> I don't know what flaming you are referring to. Could you be more
specific?
>
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Patrick Corliss
> >
> > But, we're going to need a commitment from our
> > colleagues who are at the meeting, to ensure that all voices will be
given a
> > fair
> > chance. It will also be interesting to see how the time will be
allotted
> > for the
> > various discussions. If necessary, will the meeting run over/through
> > lunch/dinner/breakfast and even overtime? Or will it be the ersatz
> > performance yet
> > again? (Considering the gravity of the matters to be discussed, I think
a
> > working
> > lunch is not too much to be expected, surely? I remember Esther Dyson
> > herself
> > deigning to dine and do... that is, if memory serves me correctly.) I
would
> > even
> > like to see a motion or two with real and virtual participation in a
vote!
> > (`wishful thinking', I know) Is this GA really going to happen
gentlemen?
> > Let us
> > see your resolve, will, and character over the next two weeks.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >
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> > Regards
> > Patrick Corliss
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>
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