Re: [ga-abuse] Mailing Lists

[Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net>]

OK I C...... I am glad you get all of that stuff and not me...:)

/Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@corliss.net>
To: "Bruce James" <bmj@keyname.net>
Cc: "[ga-abuse]" <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: May 15, 2001 13:51
Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Mailing Lists


Hi Bruce

No, you misunderstood.  It wasn't a problem with your email.

Your post went out though the list to 300 people.  Of those 299 got the
email.  One person <ozk@fibertel.com.ar> had a full mail box so your email
bounced back to me as undelivered.

Worse one of every single post bounces back to me as undelivered.  If there
are 80 posts a day then I get 160.  The 80 that I get normally as a
subscriber to the list.  And the 80 that the subscriber, whose mailbox is
full, would have got but which were bounced back to me.

That's a lot of bounced emails and it's happening all the time.

Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net>
To: Alternate Chair, GA <patrick@corliss.net>; Danny Younger
<webmaster@babybows.com>
Cc: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>; [ga-abuse]
<ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ga-abuse] Mailing Lists


> I find it very strange that one of *my* posts to the ga-roots bounced.
>
> From: Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net> 64.216.127.132
>
> I have posted before...????
>
> Regards,
> /Bruce
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alternate Chair, GA" <patrick@corliss.net>
> To: "Danny Younger" <webmaster@babybows.com>
> Cc: "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>;
"[ga-abuse]"
> <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> Sent: May 15, 2001 12:05
> Subject: [ga-abuse] Mailing Lists
>
>
> To Chair cc DNSO Secretariat, List Monitors
>
> I am sorry but I must reduce the traffic on my email  client.  I am now
> getting all of the bounced messages from Jeff Williams and Eric Dierker as
> well as those below.  I am also subscribed to all of the sublists as well
as
> NCDNHC, ICANN-Europe, Domain Policy, OSRC, TLDA and our local DNS.  I also
> receive mail from the AUDA and TLDA Boards as well as correspondence with
> Elisabeth, Danny and the Monitors.
>
> I am also concerned that we are all working too hard and miss some of each
> other's messages.  The lists are under discussion and I feel we are in
> danger of losing control of the situation.  We also need to clarify the
> procedures between us.
>
> As far as I'm concerned the Chair and the Alternate Chair are in charge of
> the mailing lists with the DNSO Secretariat performing the admin function.
> I do not really wish to debate every little point as this is a waste of
> resources.
>
> (1)    Danny has appointed me as in charge of the lists.  He has set up
six
> sublists although I suggested five.  I see GA-EXT and GA-REVIEW overlap
> considerably.  So far only ONE person has volunteered to be a Chair for
any
> of the lists.
>
> (2)    All rejected messages are bounced to me as the list owner.  One
list
> example is <owner-ga-tm@dnso.org>.  There are two types indicated in the
> "From":
>
> *    From the list owner.  These are cross-posted messages and they should
> bounced back to the sender.  It should be possible to configure in that
way.
> *    From the Mailer-Daemon (such as below).  These are undelivered mail
and
> they should be dealt with after 3 days (not one week as previously
> suggested).
>
> (3)    Some of the lists still need to get going.  One or two people do
not
> understand the difference between the lists.  Some, like Jefsey, are
> deliberately hostile.  I don't know what's involved but the lists need to
be
> renamed.  I'd prefer the following:
>
> *    GA-INT should be called GA-RULES
> *    GA-EXT should be called GA-ICANN
> *    GA-TM should be called GA-UDRP
>
> (4)    The GA-REVIEW list is not being used.  I don't know whether Danny
can
> get it started quickly.  Who was involved in the "review"?  Who was the
> Chair?  If they won't help then the list must be killed off as too
> confusing.
>
> (5)    Chairs need to be appointed.  Only one person has volunteered.
> That's William S. Lovell for GA-EXT or as I suggest GA-ICANN.  Is there
any
> possibility that one of the list monitors will take GA-INT or as I suggest
> GA-RULES?  Alexander?  Harald?
>
> If we don't sort out these problems quickly we are losing time and energy.
>
> Regards
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@dnso.org>
> To: <owner-ga-roots@dnso.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 9:49 PM
> Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
>
>
> > The original message was received at Sat, 12 May 2001 13:48:12 +0200
(MET
> DST)
> > from majordomo@localhost
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <ozk@fibertel.com.ar>
> >     (expanded from: include)
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > ... while talking to mail-hosting.fibertel.com.ar.:
> > >>> RCPT To:<ozk@fibertel.com.ar>
> > <<< 552 RCPT TO:<ozk@fibertel.com.ar> Mailbox disk quota exceeded
> > 554 <ozk@fibertel.com.ar>... Service unavailable
> > Message delivered to mailing list owner-ga-roots@dnso.org
> >
>
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> > Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 06:48:05 -0500
> > From: Bruce James <bmj@keyname.net>
> > Subject: Re: [ga-roots] Encouraging Rogue Behaviour ?
> > To: Patrick Corliss <patrick@corliss.net>, Darryl Lynch <dassa@dhs.org>
> > Cc: "[ga-roots]" <ga-roots@dnso.org>
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