[ga-abuse] Complaint Against Jeff Williams

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

List Monitors

Complaint Against Jeff Williams
Grounds:  Personal Attack, Insults and Slander
(a)    That I made false allegations to William, Jeff, Erick and others
(b)    That these allegation were made privately as a cover-up
(c)    That my behaviour is detrimental to my position as co-chair
(d)    That I am not a person who wishes to get some REAL work done
(e)    That I am not a person who wants to see some normalcy on the lists
(f)    That as Co-Chair I am disrupting others in a prejudice manner

I would add that these are serious slanders which are very likely actionable
under the law.  There is very little defence even in the American system.  They
are not "fair comment" because there is no justification.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss


----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: <jandl@jandl.com>
Cc: Danny Younger <webmaster@babybows.com>; <ga@dnso.org>; Patrick Corliss
<patrick@quad.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] List Monitors


> Leah and all remaining assembly members,
>
> JandL wrote:
>
> > For the past few days, my inbox has been inundated with list
> > protocol and suspension...  Quite frankly I have better things to do
> > with my time than to read these messages.  There is work to be
> > done.
>
>   Indeed there is allot of work to be done.  But until there is an open
> forum and addressing these pesky little details with respect to the
> Co-Chair and Erick's concerns as well as others, any work that
> begins on any other WG will be disrupted by carry over from
> these ongoing situations.  Surely everyone can see that clearly???
>
> >
> >
> > In terms of Mr. Corliss taking action, I can certainly understand
> > wanting to bring this list back to some measure of decorum and
> > relevant subject matter.  It is regrettable to see that those who
> > opposed a person's individual affiliations are now on the attack to
> > remove him.  All I have seen are excessive posts from those people
> > with nothing constructive to offer wrt to issues facing the GA.
>
>   The issue is not that simple Leah.  But in part it is related.  Patrick
> has privately made a false accusation to William, myself, Erick, and
> others that he has been called on.  In his new position as co-chair
> this sort of behavior is detrimental to all whom wish to get some
> REAL work done and see some normalcy on this and any new
> WG lists that may be created.
>
>   So these issues must be addressed post haste.
>
> >
> >
> > Might we forego these attempts to disrupt the list and get back to
> > the issues most important to the Internet and the GA in particular?
> > Attempting to undermine the Chair and Co-Chair's efforts are not
> > going to help this body.
>
>   This is a matter of opinion to and extent.  If the co-chair is to be
> allowed
> to disrupt others in a prejudice manner, than it is a most serious problem.
> It should and I contend must, be addressed post haste.
>
> >
> >
> > Can we please see the WG lists established so that we can WORK?
>
>   I hope so.
>
> >
> >
> > Leah
> >
> > > Dear Mr. Younger;
> > >
> > > This post is a fine example of the problems with the rules in place.
> > > Your first citation leads us to the rules you have cited very nicely.
> > > Upon reviewing these rules one finds all in order except that there is
> > > no mechanism to obtain a vote of the GA for the removal of a monitor.
> > > It also does not state what type of majority vote. So I guess we can
> > > assume that I may call for a vote right now to remove Mr. Corliss as a
> > > list monitor, due to obvious conflict of interest, and if 11 of us
> > > vote and 6 say remove he will be removed.  IN CASE THERE IS CONFUSION
> > > I NOW CALL FOR THAT VOTE.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Danny Younger wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Certain persons appointed by the GA Chair (the list monitors) have
> > > > the task of monitoring the list for posts that violate these rules.
> > > > These are selected by the GA Chair for a given period of time, but
> > > > may be removed from the role by the GA Chair or at their own request
> > > > at any time. A list monitor may also be removed by a majority vote
> > > > of the General Assembly.  Normally the appointment would be for 1
> > > > year." http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html
> > > >
> > > > In response to a call for volunteers to serve as List Monitors,
> > > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg00870.html I have been
> > > > advised of expressions of interest put forth by Bruce James, Kristy
> > > > McKee, Alexander Svensson, Patrick Corliss, and Harald Tveit
> > > > Alvestrand.  Accordingly, I now appoint these individuals to a one
> > > > year term as Monitors of the GA List.
> > > >
> > > > Danny Younger
> > > > GA Chair
> > > >
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> Regards,
>
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