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Re: [wg-c] GTLD Straw poll
>>> "A.M. Rutkowski" <amr@netmagic.com> 08/17/99 07:39PM >>>
wrote:
>snip<
>Obviously, at least the GAC believed the notion extended throughout
>the hierarchy and beyond, considering they adopted the finding that:
> "the Internet naming and addressing system is a public
> resource." Operating Principles, GAC, Berlin, May 1999.
I'm not in the business of defending the GAC.
Especially when it's dead wrong.
>Furthermore, the actions of ICANN itself clearly imply a flow
>down of their exercise of authority that extends well below
>just the TLD zones.
I am not an apologist for ICANN. Any attempt by ICANN
to govern (for instance) how I might administer internet.info
(if that juicy zone were delegated to me) will meet with a fight.
>Lastly, since these are just zones in a distributed database
>pointing among eachother to ultimately reach an authoritative
>record to resolve a complete domain name, the levels are somewhat
>irrelevant for purposes of dealing with the issues.
I disagree. The DNS is quintessentially hierarchical today.
What goes on in .uk is, from a policy perspective, orthogonal
to what goes on in .com. From an economic perspective, there
is cross-elasticity; but this goes to the robustness of the structure
we're using as an arbor to grow the commercialization and
privatization of the Internet.
>For example,
>what if the European Union pushes through its EU domain, and it
>establishes a semantic structure at lower levels?
Well, gosh, that will be an attribute of the .eu domain, won't it?
You don't have to make up examples. Look at the structure of
.us. I don't believe that there is an ibm.ny.us domain, because the
regime rules of the .us domain dictate the structure of the domains
below the "cut" between the root and .us. However, the dictation
goes only so far (at this time). I don't think anyone pretends to regulate
what zones can be delegated below netlawyer.nyc.ny.us.
All of which brings us back to my fundamental point:
delegations below the TLD name space are governed by
different sets of rules than govern the delegation of the TLD name
space itself. That will change if we move away from the concept of
one true root. But for now, this is the way it is: I administer cybersharque.com,
and those who try to mess with it are as unlikely to succeed as those who
seek to come between me and my firearms :-)
>Indeed, Lottor's data clearly shows the irrelevancy in
>the latest zone data. All of the following domains have more
>than 100,000 records. Which of these are public resources
>subject to a public trust...and why?
<snip>
None of them, other than (possibly) .com, .ca.us, and
the .mil domains. But none of that is relevant to the
policy issues that govern the delegation of new gTLDs
in the root. That's what we're here to discuss; that's
what you keep trying to pull the discussion away from;
and I respectfully suggest that your more general discussion
of domain name policy belongs on that other list, where it
will not interfere with the work of this WG.
2ld lucent.com 4,723,690
3ld outland.lucent.com 4,723,669
2ld aol.com 1,749,709
3ld ipt.aol.com 1,736,704
2ld uu.net 1,550,991
3ld da.uu.net 1,504,729
1ld com 1,105,370
2ld ans.net 924,301
3ld dialup.ans.net 890,593
2ld ac.uk 752,728
2ld ne.jp 725,963
2ld home.com 688,191
2ld co.uk 679,703
2ld bbn.com 622,360
3ld saturn.bbn.com 598,470
2ld psi.net 544,523
2ld af.mil 492,447
2ld ac.jp 492,164
3ld pub-ip.psi.net 481,133
2ld navy.mil 424,208
2ld army.mil 409,223
2ld or.jp 406,662
2ld att.net 406,484
3ld dial-access.att.net 402,580
2ld airdata.net 388,629
2ld rr.com 355,531
2ld edu.au 333,749
2ld dialsprint.net 300,376
2ld ibm.net 299,812
3ld demon.co.uk 274,355
2ld ca.us 269,260
3ld wave.home.com 262,798
2ld hinet.net 252,414
2ld co.jp 240,707
2ld com.au 232,532
2ld mindspring.com 222,056
3ld dialup.mindspring.com 221,213
2ld pacbell.net 217,335
2ld com.br 214,411
2ld mediaone.net 212,177
2ld net.tw 207,720
3ld k12.ca.us 205,509
3ld us.ibm.net 201,218
2ld cdc.com 197,180
2ld net.au 196,308
2ld dec.com 185,559
2ld mn.us 174,130
2ld edu.tw 165,966
3ld k12.mn.us 161,907
2ld netcom.com 161,122
2ld ad.jp 159,336
3ld ix.netcom.com 153,805
KJC
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