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GA-DIGEST          Saturday, January 12 2002          Volume 01 : Number 979

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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 04:23:42 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Subscribing to [icann-announce]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:43:10 -0800, Jeff Williams wrote:

>   The survey to which you are referencing Patrick is skewed towards
> the constituencies, and there is no place indicated in the check box
> for DNSO GA members.  Therefore input from GA members
> doesn't seem to be desired.  As such any result from this
> survey is inaccurate at best.

Agreed.  I don't intend to complete the survey.  However, I usually repost
[icann-announce] for those who don't get it themselves.  Nobody seems to mind
me doing that.

In fact, I would like the DNSO Secretariat to subscribe the GA mailing list to
[icann-announce] so we will get the ICANN announcements without subscribing
individually.

The problem was that Elisabeth Porteneuve refused to consider the idea on the
grounds that you are not "allowed" to subscribe one mailing list to another
(even if it is read only).  I wonder what internet law incorporates this
prohibition, anybody know?

So would anyone have any serious objections to what is, after all, merely an
administrative convenience?

Best regards
Patrick Corliss

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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 04:30:06 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] WLS

Hi Abel

> I seem to speak in riddles or foerign tongue (I know my typing is bad).

No, you are just misunderstanding me a little.

<snip>

> beartrading (see options almost identical again the rights to buy/selll are
> sold it contains rights to an existing entity)

The domain name is an "existing entity" at the time you subscribe.  But you
are not buying a domain name.  You are buying the "rights to register" a
domain name.

And I can legally sell you such "rights".  People do it all the time.

Best regards
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I'm on the Board of auDA (the .au country code) as well as TLDA (the Top
Level Domain Association).   Please note that anything I write is my own
personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the views of any body
with which I am associated.  Please also note IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer).

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:36:25 -0600
From: [email-masked] (Kristy McKee)
Subject: Re: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

>In favor of WLS proposal [ ]
>Not in favor of WLS proposal [x]

I appreciate the incredible load placed on NSI's bandwidth and machines; 
however, this solution only serves to move a small portion the load away 
from NSI.  I am not convinced this maneuver will solve the problem.

Also, it is ridiculous to price something worth $6.00 when used at $40.00 
when not in use.  Driving up the price like this is dangerous.

:)

~k

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:38:25 EST
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Re: WLS and bares

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In a message dated 1/11/2002 10:31:05 AM Central Standard Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> Bear Trading.  Normally people think in terms of buying stocks (aka shares) 
> on
> the stock exchange.  The person who is selling is expected to have them to
> sell.  However, it is perfectly possible for a person to sell shares that 
> they
> do not own.  Of course, they must deliver shares on the due date (often a 
> few
> days into the future) and they will have to buy them in the market on or
> before the delivery date.  Naturally the seller hopes the price will go DOWN
> before they are required to buy them.   That's sometimes known as "going
> bear".
> 
Not exactly true Patrick, but close.  In order for a person to sell shares 
they do not own, they must borrow  stock from someone or the brokerage firm 
... which is a "short sale".   If they own the stock, then they can "sell 
against the box".  

In the options markets you can either buy or sell a put or buy or  sell a 
call (or spreads and straddles).  If you sell a put,   it is called a "naked" 
and can be quite dangerous and most firms will require the full cash price of 
the stock to be in your account.  The  person selling is referred to as a 
"bear", but the actual term is "trading bare"., ie bare of stocks or naked.  

If you sell a call and you own the underlying stock, then it is called 
"writing".  Any option can be exercised at the holder's discretion. 

jess

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 1/11/2002 10:31:05 AM Central Standard Time, [email-masked] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bear Trading. &nbsp;Normally people think in terms of buying stocks (aka shares) on
<BR>the stock exchange. &nbsp;The person who is selling is expected to have them to
<BR>sell. &nbsp;However, it is perfectly possible for a person to sell shares that they
<BR>do not own. &nbsp;Of course, they must deliver shares on the due date (often a few
<BR>days into the future) and they will have to buy them in the market on or
<BR>before the delivery date. &nbsp;Naturally the seller hopes the price will go DOWN
<BR>before they are required to buy them. &nbsp;&nbsp;That's sometimes known as "going
<BR>bear".
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Not exactly true Patrick, but close. &nbsp;In order for a person to sell shares they do not own, they must borrow &nbsp;stock from someone or the brokerage firm ... which is a "short sale". &nbsp;&nbsp;If they own the stock, then they can "sell against the box". &nbsp;
<BR>
<BR>In the options markets you can either buy or sell a put or buy or &nbsp;sell a call (or spreads and straddles). &nbsp;If you sell a put, &nbsp;&nbsp;it is called a "naked" and can be quite dangerous and most firms will require the full cash price of the stock to be in your account. &nbsp;The &nbsp;person selling is referred to as a "bear", but the actual term is "trading bare"., ie bare of stocks or naked. &nbsp;
<BR>
<BR>If you sell a call and you own the underlying stock, then it is called "writing". &nbsp;Any option can be exercised at the holder's discretion. 
<BR>
<BR>jess
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:39:01 EST
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

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In favor of WLS proposal [ ]
Not in favor of WLS proposal [X]

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:44:35 +0000
From: Abel Wisman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] WLS

I agree, you can sell me those rights, and i can force you to deliver (if you 
garantuee delivery) or pay me damages.
and as the owner, you can garantuee the delivery

the registry can never (in an open market of registrations) garantuee 
delivery, unless they are abusing their position.

where is the line, once they can pre-register names that are currently in use 
and will be deleted at any given time in future? will they next pre-reg every 
letter combination there is so EVERY domain registration will cost the 
registrar $ 40 ?

the registry has the contractual duty to delete a domain.
once deleted anybody can register the same string of letters according to all 
rules that apply to new  regsitrations

IF these rules are applied the registry has the same chances of ganing the 
new domain as anybody else, and makes themselves liable for large suits 
against them for not performing the delivery they promise, because they have 
to deliver.

So only by evading those rules (iow registering before anybody else, or 
excluding the string of charachters from being new regsitration) can they 
perform.
If they are allowed to evade in these cases they are allowed in all cases and 
have become registrar with a large edge.

beware, all new domains will be costing $ 40 prereg soon!

hmmm

In short (last time) 
the domain gets deleted (registry obligation) and is free for the world to be 
registered
either way, the registry has to not delete it or manipulate the register to 
"get" the domain, both being violations of their contract, or play chances 
with those who are expert in that game and in the latter situation i suggest 
the registrar verisign does it and becomes just another contender in that 
field.

abel

On Friday 11 January 2002 5:30 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Abel
>
> > I seem to speak in riddles or foerign tongue (I know my typing is bad).
>
> No, you are just misunderstanding me a little.
>
> <snip>
>
> > beartrading (see options almost identical again the rights to buy/selll
> > are sold it contains rights to an existing entity)
>
> The domain name is an "existing entity" at the time you subscribe.  But you
> are not buying a domain name.  You are buying the "rights to register" a
> domain name.
>
> And I can legally sell you such "rights".  People do it all the time.
>
> Best regards
> Patrick Corliss
> _________________________________________________________
> I'm on the Board of auDA (the .au country code) as well as TLDA (the Top
> Level Domain Association).   Please note that anything I write is my own
> personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the views of any body
> with which I am associated.  Please also note IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer).

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:34:20 -0800
From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] WLS Proposal text

For the benefit of those who may have just joined us and
are wondering what the Verisign WLS proposal is, a
complete copy of the text is available in pdf format at:
http://www.icann-registrars.org/pdfs/VeriSign_wls.pdf 

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:30:50 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

You are wonderful,

I think that may have been very hard to publicly do.

Until the day they condemn me to hell you will never run out of fans!

As always I hope my support for you does you no harm.

Eric

Kristy McKee wrote:

> >In favor of WLS proposal [ ]
> >Not in favor of WLS proposal [x]
>
> I appreciate the incredible load placed on NSI's bandwidth and machines;
> however, this solution only serves to move a small portion the load away
> from NSI.  I am not convinced this maneuver will solve the problem.
>
> Also, it is ridiculous to price something worth $6.00 when used at $40.00
> when not in use.  Driving up the price like this is dangerous.
>
> :)
>
> ~k
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:42:40 +0000
From: Abel Wisman <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

in favor of WLS proposal [ ]
 Not in favor of WLS proposal [X]

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:34:13 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

Eric and all assembly members,

  I noticed that you have not voted in the poll yet Eric.  Why is that
I wonder?  I also noticed that even after drafting the letter to start
a WG for Delete, you have yet to submit it.  I also wonder why that
is as well given that you said to me that you were going to do
that yesterday mourning?

Eric Dierker wrote:

> You are wonderful,
>
> I think that may have been very hard to publicly do.
>
> Until the day they condemn me to hell you will never run out of fans!
>
> As always I hope my support for you does you no harm.
>
> Eric
>
> Kristy McKee wrote:
>
> > >In favor of WLS proposal [ ]
> > >Not in favor of WLS proposal [x]
> >
> > I appreciate the incredible load placed on NSI's bandwidth and machines;
> > however, this solution only serves to move a small portion the load away
> > from NSI.  I am not convinced this maneuver will solve the problem.
> >
> > Also, it is ridiculous to price something worth $6.00 when used at $40.00
> > when not in use.  Driving up the price like this is dangerous.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > ~k
> >
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:00:38 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] NeuStar seeks channel partners to launch .US domain -- Registrar accreditation process

All assembly members,

  FYI.  See:http://library.northernlight.com/FC20020110570000141.html

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:09:59 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

Fair enough,

Your poll is awesome and I will vote.  Thank you for this marvelous
contribution. I suggest a tally on Monday using Paris time.

 My submission for a WG list will come by Sunday.

We all know that this latest round was merely an opening salvo on
behalf of the "Registry".

I freaking hate behind the scenes wrangling.  But i am working on that now
in order that our WG-Delete launch is not brutally anialated.
To placate you I must insult Patrick and totally get thrashed by WXW.
The DoC will not back one way or the other.  Now, after being rebuffed by
the registrars, I do not think Gomes will lend his support.

"Anything worth doing is a complete pain in the a--"

Can anyone speak against Genie Livingston and George Kirikos and Abel Wisman
running the show?

Again thank you for your contribution.

Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
>   I noticed that you have not voted in the poll yet Eric.  Why is that
> I wonder?  I also noticed that even after drafting the letter to start
> a WG for Delete, you have yet to submit it.  I also wonder why that
> is as well given that you said to me that you were going to do
> that yesterday mourning?
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > You are wonderful,
> >
> > I think that may have been very hard to publicly do.
> >
> > Until the day they condemn me to hell you will never run out of fans!
> >
> > As always I hope my support for you does you no harm.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Kristy McKee wrote:
> >
> > > >In favor of WLS proposal [ ]
> > > >Not in favor of WLS proposal [x]
> > >
> > > I appreciate the incredible load placed on NSI's bandwidth and machines;
> > > however, this solution only serves to move a small portion the load away
> > > from NSI.  I am not convinced this maneuver will solve the problem.
> > >
> > > Also, it is ridiculous to price something worth $6.00 when used at $40.00
> > > when not in use.  Driving up the price like this is dangerous.
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > ~k
> > >
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:05:37 +0100 (MET)
From: DNSO Secretariat <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Dan Steinberg elected as the GA delegate to the NC Transfer TF

[ To: [email-masked], [email-masked] ]
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[ cf. http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-TransferTF-vote.html ]

ICANN/DNSO

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                           DNSO General Assembly
     Vote by the GA to designate its representative to the Names Council
                            Transfer Task Force
                                    b10

3 January 2002

Vote by the GA to designate its representative to the Names Council Transfer
Task Force

The Names Council asked the General Assembly to designate its own
representative to the Transfer Task Force.

   * Candidates determined in Nominations-Acceptances process
     http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GA-TransferTF.html

     Listed in order of acceptances:
        o Eric Dierker
        o Jeffrey A Williams
        o Dan Steinberg

Basic outline of Vote by the GA to designate its representative to the Names
Council Transfer Task Force

   * Basic outline http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-b10-outline.html

Electorate and Voting Registry

   * Electorate. Voting roster
     http://www.dnso.org/secretariat/b10rosterindex.html, as of 3 January
     2002, at the time the ballot is sent out.
   * Voting Registry
     http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-registry.html

Election Rules used by the DNSO General Assembly

   * The Election rules used to designate the GA delegate to the NC Transfer
     TF will be the same as for the GA Chair, cf.
     http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-chair-election-rules-v0.2.html

Time for the vote

   * Begins: Thursday 3 January 2002, 16:00 UTC, 17:00 CET (Paris),
     (8:00 LA, 11:00 New York, 17:00 Paris, 24:00 Tokyo)
   * Ends: Thursday 10 January 2002, 15:00 UTC, 16:00 CET (Paris)
     (7:00 LA, 10:00 New York, 16:00 Paris, 23:00 Tokyo)

Results -- to be published no later than Friday 11 January 2002, 16:00 UTC,
17:00 Paris.

   * The GA delegate for the NC Transfer TF:

          Dan Steinberg 

   * Full public record:

     The calculations step by step using Instant Runoff Vote:
     http://www.dnso.org/secretariat/b10fullrecord.html

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Information from:  © DNSO Secretariat

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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:37:28 -0500
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: Results from Registrar Telecon on Deletes & Update....

>
> and any public links to the ICANN-DELETES mailing list (a public
> archive might be useful of those discussions).

No archive was maintained actually - unfortunately. I do have a copy of all
of the postings locally - let me see what I can do with them....

>
> I'm shocked and saddened the "Let's Make George Kirikos a
> Multi-Millionaire Proposal" got no votes! :( C'est la vie... at least
> it got as many "favourable" votes as the WLS (a resounding zero!) from
> the registrars. Perhaps a recount? ;)
>

The poll was taken and closed a long time before this clear winner was put
on the table - too bad you didn't put it forward sooner ;)

Thanks for the suggestions - have a great weekend.

- -rwr

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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:37:11 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Stuart Lynn wants restricted TLDs only

On 17:06 11/01/02, William X Walsh said:
>Friday, Friday, January 11, 2002, 7:49:10 AM, Patrick Greenwell wrote:
> > I can't wait for the next "Internet Consensus Policy" which spells out
> > that we all want restricted TLDs exclusively. :-)
>
>Stop giving them ideas, Patrick  :)

I can't wait for ICP-3.B claiming being the eternal policy of the ICANN 
therefore not needing the DNSO being involved: did you recall the DNSO 
having voted any document on a new restricted TLDs oriented strategy?

Would that be that after having given some survival delay to VRSN with 
.info they organize the delay until 2005 when ".net" may be transfered to 
Microsoft? May be did I get confused by the M$ 80 "Verisign Inside" planned 
campaign ... inside what? the ICANN? :-)

Jefsey

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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:28:07 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Stuart Lynn wants restricted TLDs only

Dear WXW,
On 09:52 11/01/02, William X Walsh said:

>http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020110/n10212356_2.html
>The president of the group that oversees the Internet's naming system
>said Thursday that he favored creating new members-only suffixes, such
>as .edu and .museum, over unrestricted domains like .com and .info.

I note that this is conform to RFC 920 which provides that any consortium 
of registrants having a prospective number of 500 Members is entitled to 
its own TLD provided it may operate 2 TLD name servers. This RFC is with 
the RFC 1591 and the ccTLD Best Practices and the ICANN document ICP-1 the 
basis for the RT/BP (Root and TLD Best Practice that several Root 
Administrators comply with, among others to prevent TLD collisions - one of 
your legitimate concerns - and TLD squatting). You will finf it under 
http://boroon.net .

The only main difference between the RT/BP and the other documents is that 
the RT/BP acknowledge the lack of properly managed Internet global NIC ( 
the IANA ) and respects TLD Manager public declarations. This conforms with 
the practice for new network systems roots as we initiated and served them 
from 1977 to 1986 starting with uk, ger, rs, fra, ita, com, net, eisa, .... 
arpa, etc. until we had converted in 1986 the public international services 
to the X121 ITU standard adressing plan, switching the responsiblity of the 
emerging Internet from being interconnected to be the interconnecting 
system as far as naming and non ISO technologies where concerned.

I note that the current ccTLDs position, proposing the ICANN a contract 
where the ICANN serves the ccTLDs, strictly conforms with that practice 
where the International interconnects were peer to peer and the machine 
management of the national standalone gateways (POP,Tymcom,  X.25) or 
independent X.75 services (Sweden, Lebanon) were agreement for separate 
services to the local operator.

This was before Joe Sims misuntderstood the nets yet understood Jones Days 
interests.
Jefsey

>M. Stuart Lynn, president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned
>Names and Numbers, told Reuters that restricted ``top level'' domains
>open only to members of a select group such as schools or museums
>would likely pose fewer problems than unrestricted top-level domains
>open to the general public.
>
>``A lot of the problems surrounding the new TLDs (top-level domains)
>re less in a sponsored environment,'' he said.
>
>
>
>
>Has to be the lamest reason I've ever heard.
>
>Sounds more like trying to find an excuse to do what the Corporate/IP
>interests would like, which is to see NO new unrestricted TLDs.  They
>fought hard during Workgroup C to prevent open TLDs from being
>introduced, arguing for no expansion of the namespace.
>
>I think the quote in my sig reflects quite appropriately on this
>situation.
>
>--
>Best regards,
>William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
>--
>
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>the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
>interprets the truth."
>-- Jean Giradoux
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:31:32 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: WG for Delete was: Re: [ga] Poll for Verisign WLS proposal

Eric and all assembly members

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Fair enough,
>
> Your poll is awesome and I will vote.  Thank you for this marvelous
> contribution. I suggest a tally on Monday using Paris time.
>
>  My submission for a WG list will come by Sunday.
>
> We all know that this latest round was merely an opening salvo on
> behalf of the "Registry".
>
> I freaking hate behind the scenes wrangling.  But i am working on that now
> in order that our WG-Delete launch is not brutally anialated.
> To placate you I must insult Patrick and totally get thrashed by WXW.
> The DoC will not back one way or the other.  Now, after being rebuffed by
> the registrars, I do not think Gomes will lend his support.
>
> "Anything worth doing is a complete pain in the a--"
>
> Can anyone speak against Genie Livingston and George Kirikos and Abel Wisman
> running the show?

  I can't say one way or the other until a proper and appropriate
request is made to the secretariat and the DNSO NC as well
as the General assembly members.  However it would seem
reasonable that there should be an election within the yet
to be formed and approved WG for Delete, a chair for
such a  WG.

>
>
> Again thank you for your contribution.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Eric and all assembly members,
> >
> >   I noticed that you have not voted in the poll yet Eric.  Why is that
> > I wonder?  I also noticed that even after drafting the letter to start
> > a WG for Delete, you have yet to submit it.  I also wonder why that
> > is as well given that you said to me that you were going to do
> > that yesterday mourning?
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > You are wonderful,
> > >
> > > I think that may have been very hard to publicly do.
> > >
> > > Until the day they condemn me to hell you will never run out of fans!
> > >
> > > As always I hope my support for you does you no harm.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Kristy McKee wrote:
> > >
> > > > >In favor of WLS proposal [ ]
> > > > >Not in favor of WLS proposal [x]
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate the incredible load placed on NSI's bandwidth and machines;
> > > > however, this solution only serves to move a small portion the load away
> > > > from NSI.  I am not convinced this maneuver will solve the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Also, it is ridiculous to price something worth $6.00 when used at $40.00
> > > > when not in use.  Driving up the price like this is dangerous.
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > ~k
> > > >
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Regards,

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