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GA-DIGEST          Thursday, January 3 2002          Volume 01 : Number 950

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:04:07 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] CONCERNS

1.  Preregistrations
The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
that needs to be corrected.

2.  Transfers
We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.

3.  ccTLDs
Are they inside or outside of ICANN?

4.  Resellers and warehousing
The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.

5.  RFCs
Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.

Sincerely,
Eric

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:19:44 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [GTLD Registries List] Will Hal Lubsen please answer the  questions, or is openness a 'sham' on this forum?

Eric and all assembly members,

  Good question.  I am sure we are not yet aware of what the complete
answer is either.  What we do already know as has thus far been
reported by several Registrants of late regarding Versign and Register.com
is that the process thus far set forth for Transfers of Domain Names
between registrars is not being followed or botched due to lack
of knowledge as to how to properly execute such.  It is also terribly
evident that the ICANN staff has yet to take corrective action with
respect to reported Verisign transfer errors, either purposeful or
otherwise that would be adequate to correct the problem and send
a message to other registrars as to what they should expect.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> This is starting to make me very nervous about Transfer issues.
>
> My goodness if this is how they handle registrations what kind of nightmare
> should we expect when we want to transfer?
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Richard and all,
> >
> >   It seem that the practice of the "ICANN Accredited" Registries such
> > as Afilias is relatively not interested in their customer base or
> > potential
> > registrants in many respects and feels that it can flaunt or ignore the
> > Accreditation Contract that the ICANN Staff is supposed to
> > oversee at will.  I amongst many of our members also have gotten
> > not response from Afilias on specific registration issues outstanding
> > regarding the "Sunrise" period as well...
> >
> > Richard Henderson wrote:
> >
> > >    I note with regret that Hal Lubsen (CEO of Afilias) has failed to
> > > respond to my specific and detailed concerns, voiced on behalf of many
> > > members of the Internet community who have got no answer from him on
> > > other forums. Our concern, clearly expressed, was that consumers were
> > > defrauded by the Afilias roll-out, and that Hal Lubsen's company
> > > DomainBank had profited from the submission of ineligible data in the
> > > Sunrise, at the expense of honest customers.
> > >
> > > We were also dismayed that over half of all fake Sunrise claims had
> > > been submitted, for profit, by Afilias executives or directors. We
> > > shared the view of honest Afilias director Robert Connelly that this
> > > Sunrise fraud and roll-out was "an abomination".
> > >
> > > Hal Lubsen is a member of this forum but has failed to respond to
> > > these very serious concerns. Of course, everyone knows that he is
> > > under no obligation to answer any questions raised here, but bearing
> > > in mind that a major purpose of the forum is to promote "openness and
> > > transparency", his failure to answer serious issues directed
> > > specifically at him is hugely dosappointing.
> > >
> > > Is this a rogue industry where the customer is simply ignored?
> > >
> > > Or could Hal Lubsen simply give open and transparent answers to
> > > questions put to him.
> > >
> > > I find his silence and evasion a dismal sign of the contempt in which
> > > honest customers appear to be held.
> > >
> > > Come on Hal, please do the decent thing and answer.
> > >
> > > Happy New Year to everyone
> > >
> > > Richard Henderson
> > > (www.theinternetchallenge.com)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:25:16 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [GTLD Registries List] Hal Lubsen - broken contract and conflicts of interest?

Richard and all,

  As many have already rightfully noticed much as you have below in your

comments the ICANN staff is no, has not ,and it seems will not take
the necessary corrective action it is contracted to do with these types
of violations.

Richard Henderson wrote:

>   >From the ICANN/AFILIAS contract of May 2001, defining the
> obligations on Registrars:
>
> In order for trademark and service mark owners to qualify to receive a
> registration during the Sunrise Period (a "Sunrise Registration"), the
> following information MUST be provided to Registry Operator: (i) the
> ASCII characters name of the trademark or service mark; (ii) the date
> issued; (iii) the country where issued; and (iv) the TM registration
> number. Registrar SHALL REQUIRE this information, in addition to the
> standard information required of all potential registrants, be
> provided by potential Sunrise Period registrants.
>
> For any Registrar to breach these contractual rules is unacceptable,
> and an abuse of honest customers (who were subsequently defrauded to
> the sum of $3million at Landrush).
>
> For the company of the CEO of Afilias itself (Hal Lubsen and
> DomainBank) to breach these contractual rules MUST - because of the
> visible conflict of interests between the profit made by DomainBank
> and the loss sustained by Landrush customers - result in action by
> ICANN.
>
> The facts (using the case of the 93 William Lorenz applications via
> DomainBank as an illustration):
>
> Hal Lubsen's company charged in region of $13000 to "sponsor" these
> applications and submit them to Afilias (of which, conveniently, Hal
> Lubsen was CEO).
>
> The consequence of this irresponsible profiteering was that people all
> over the world, who had paid honest money to be in the Landrush for
> these names, were deprived of what their money had paid for.
>
> All 93 of Lorenz's applications stated "NONE" for Trademark; "NONE"
> for Trademark Date; "NONE" for Trademark Country; "NONE" for Trademark
> Number.
>
> The ICANN contract stated that it was obligatory for Sunrise
> applications to provide specific details in EACH of these four fields.
>
> The Lorenz applications had "NONE" in ANY of the four fields. They
> were wholly ineligible, according to the ICANN contract.
>
> For the Afilias CEO to be party to the submission and registration of
> these names - thereby abusing his own rules and the ICANN contract -
> cannot be left unanswered.
>
> Nor should it be overlooked that Lorenz - in a fit of conscience -
> made 23 documented requests for these names to be deleted, so that
> Landrush customers would not lose out.
>
> These requests were declined and Hal Lubsen's DomainBank kept the
> $13000 it had charged (to break the ICANN contract, abuse the Sunrise
> system over which Lubsen himself presided as the Afilias CEO, taking
> money from Lorenz for products he could never obtain, and causing the
> resultant defrauding of honest Landrush customers).
>
> Ironically, Hal Lubsen was quoted in a press release four days before
> the Lorenz "zero-data" applications, complaining that some people were
> abusing the Afilias Sunrise system...
>
> And yet his own company was taking thousands of dollars for a total
> breach of the Sunrise contractual rules.
>
> For FOUR months, Hal Lubsen has been asked, again and again, to answer
> these very serious concerns. His silence has been met by disgust and
> bemusement among consumers who believed that ICANN insisted on
> openness, honesty and transparency.
>
> We, members of the Internet community, request once again that Vint
> Cerf the Chairman of the ICANN Board, and Hal Lubsen the Afilias CEO,
> offer some explanation of why this TOTAL breach of contract was
> accommodated.
>
> The abuse and corruption of the agreed contract is made even more
> serious by the emerging scale of the Sunrise fraud, the scale of the
> losses sustained by honest consumers, and the number of Registrars
> (still practising) who submitted false data to acquire Sunrise names
> and in some cases provided the invented data for their customers so
> that they could cheat the rest of the internet community.
>
> For the Afilias CEO to be party to such brazen breach of contract, and
> then refuse to account for it, indicates that ICANN is not requiring
> accountability, and consequently not offering adequate protection to
> the consumer. Vint Cerf has advertised the "openness and transparency"
> with which ICANN is supposed to operate, but he has been made well
> aware of these breaches of contract and but has STILL not responded to
> the detailed and serious concerns.
>
> In the name of honesty and fairness, where is Vint Cerf? Where is Hal
> Lubsen? How can ordinary consumers be treated with such contempt?
>
> I repeat the passage from the ICANN/AFILIAS contract:
>
> In order for trademark and service mark owners to qualify to receive a
> registration during the Sunrise Period (a "Sunrise Registration"), the
> following information MUST be provided to Registry Operator: (i) the
> ASCII characters name of the trademark or service mark; (ii) the date
> the registration issued; (iii) the country of registration; and (iv)
> the registration number. Registrar SHALL REQUIRE this information, in
> addition to the standard information required of all potential
> registrants, be provided by potential Sunrise Period registrants.
>
> Hal Lubsen's DomainBank did NOT "require" this information.
> It took the money anyway.
> And then Hal Lubsen's Afilias registered the names with NONE in every
> single required Trademark field.
>
> Is this acceptable conduct? Who protects the consumer?
>
>

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:31:24 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS

Eric and all assembly members,

  I guess 4 our of 5 is not bad.  None the less #'s 1-4 have indeed been

known for some time.  The ICANN Staff has been made aware on
many occasions as to the particulars.  Corrective action has been
suggested by a number of stakeholders to the ICANN BoD and staff.
Thus far, adequate corrective action, if any in most instances, has
yet to be taken.  Therefore as stakeholders we perhaps should
be asking ourselves if the ICANN BoD and Staff are adequately
effective in their contracted responsibilities?  And depending
on your answer as a stakeholder, what additional action might be
needed?

Eric Dierker wrote:

> 1.  Preregistrations
> The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
> that needs to be corrected.
>
> 2.  Transfers
> We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.
>
> 3.  ccTLDs
> Are they inside or outside of ICANN?
>
> 4.  Resellers and warehousing
> The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.
>
> 5.  RFCs
> Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:46:30 -0500
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS

> 1.  Preregistrations
> The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
> that needs to be corrected.
>
> 2.  Transfers
> We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.
>
> 3.  ccTLDs
> Are they inside or outside of ICANN?
>
> 4.  Resellers and warehousing
> The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.
>
> 5.  RFCs
> Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.

Should we simply accept your statements as fact and be done with it? Or do
you have a proposal you would like to make, thoughts you would like to share
or perhaps a direction you'd like to point us in?

- -rwr

"Let us develop the resources of our land, call forth its powers, build up
its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
remembered."
  -- Daniel Webster

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dierker" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:04 PM
Subject: [ga] CONCERNS

>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:49:10 -0500
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS

> Therefore as stakeholders we perhaps should
> be asking ourselves if the ICANN BoD and Staff are adequately
> effective in their contracted responsibilities?

Are you implying that the board should be responsible for determining and
enforcing policy?

- -rwr

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 22:06:01 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS

Ross and all assembly members,

Ross Wm. Rader wrote:

> > Therefore as stakeholders we perhaps should
> > be asking ourselves if the ICANN BoD and Staff are adequately
> > effective in their contracted responsibilities?
>
> Are you implying that the board should be responsible for determining and
> enforcing policy?

  As a matter of fact I am in the sense and to the extent that the BoD
AND Staff are contracted to do so.

>
>
> -rwr
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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 22:08:58 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [GTLD Registries List] Dotster Refuses to Refund .BIZ Application Fees

Ron and all,

  Thank you Ron.  I shall pass this along...

Ron Bennett wrote:

> I'm sending this again since a few more people
> have joined the list - and also since I suspect
> many messages were missed over the holidays.
>
> Dotster informed me they are *not* refunding .BIZ
> application fees even though NeuLevel is refunding
> them money back for those particular applications.
>
> At this point, it appears that legal action will be
> necessary against Dotster and possibly NeuLevel
> as well to recover the funds ($903.00) I paid for
> services that were never rendered.
>
> Anyone else in a similar situation, please email me
> and/or post here on the list. I'll being taking the next
> step within the next few weeks by filing a notice of
> intent to sue along with putting out a press release
> if Dotster and/or Neustar (NeuLevel) don't refund the
> $903.00 I paid for services I didn't receive.
>
> Ron Bennett
>
> ---------
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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:58:28 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS

Dear Mr. Rader,

Yes I have a specific proposal.

That proposal is quite simple and direct.

Commit.  More time and more energy.

Get these two important pending elections over with and then work
to get some money to get things done.

Basically I want to;

"Develop the resources of our Net, call forth its powers, build up
its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
remembered."

Sincerely,
Eric

Ps. My apologies for recent ungentlemanly conduct.

"Ross Wm. Rader" wrote:

> > 1.  Preregistrations
> > The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
> > that needs to be corrected.
> >
> > 2.  Transfers
> > We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.
> >
> > 3.  ccTLDs
> > Are they inside or outside of ICANN?
> >
> > 4.  Resellers and warehousing
> > The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.
> >
> > 5.  RFCs
> > Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.
>
> Should we simply accept your statements as fact and be done with it? Or do
> you have a proposal you would like to make, thoughts you would like to share
> or perhaps a direction you'd like to point us in?
>
> -rwr
>
> "Let us develop the resources of our land, call forth its powers, build up
> its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
> in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
> remembered."
>   -- Daniel Webster
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Dierker" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:04 PM
> Subject: [ga] CONCERNS
>
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 02:57:25 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS - Questions to the chair candidate's (spcl. attn. Eric Dierker)

Eric and all assembly members,

  Nice try, no cigar Eric.  I wonder if you could be a little more specific
on the issues.  As a Chair candidate, all be it one that is self nominated,
it would seem prudent and necessary that you as such a candidate,
be much more specific as to the issues facing the GA members.

For instance:

How do you intend to address the issues from a practical point of view,
in detail please, that the GA members have demonstrated in interest in
and are DNS related, should you be elected chair?

What are the major issues in order of importance in your opinion as
a chair candidate?

  I think for the present, you will find these two questions put to you
as a chair candidate challenging enough to answer especially sense
you will undoubtedly be challenged on your answers should you
perhaps not be in step with the GA members and existing DNSO GA
history thus far.

  Of course, more questions will be forthcoming...

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Dear Mr. Rader,
>
> Yes I have a specific proposal.
>
> That proposal is quite simple and direct.
>
> Commit.  More time and more energy.
>
> Get these two important pending elections over with and then work
> to get some money to get things done.
>
> Basically I want to;
>
> "Develop the resources of our Net, call forth its powers, build up
> its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
> in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
> remembered."
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> Ps. My apologies for recent ungentlemanly conduct.
>
> "Ross Wm. Rader" wrote:
>
> > > 1.  Preregistrations
> > > The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
> > > that needs to be corrected.
> > >
> > > 2.  Transfers
> > > We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.
> > >
> > > 3.  ccTLDs
> > > Are they inside or outside of ICANN?
> > >
> > > 4.  Resellers and warehousing
> > > The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.
> > >
> > > 5.  RFCs
> > > Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.
> >
> > Should we simply accept your statements as fact and be done with it? Or do
> > you have a proposal you would like to make, thoughts you would like to share
> > or perhaps a direction you'd like to point us in?
> >
> > -rwr
> >
> > "Let us develop the resources of our land, call forth its powers, build up
> > its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
> > in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
> > remembered."
> >   -- Daniel Webster
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Dierker" <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:04 PM
> > Subject: [ga] CONCERNS
> >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Eric
> > >
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:34:50 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS

Mr. Williams,

Assuming that the TF on Transfers and the GA Chair election proceed with
legitimacy.

Assuming that you continue to hold the powers to be accountable.

Assuming that we get no help but no gross interference from our BoD, Staff
and NC.

Assuming there is a reasonable agenda and protocol established for Ghana.

Assuming our markets do not take another hit like 9-11.

I will, working with you establish a methodology for bringing in money and
creating an outreach
for the GA.  There are complications in funding in a sideways model like
this but I am quite
certain that within the above parameters in can be accomplished.

I left the full mailing list attached in order to put the DoC folks on
notice that by mid 02 they will
be contributing to our financial interests.  In fact we are doing their job
for them and they
should be paying their fair share.

Sincerely,
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
>   I guess 4 our of 5 is not bad.  None the less #'s 1-4 have indeed been
>
> known for some time.  The ICANN Staff has been made aware on
> many occasions as to the particulars.  Corrective action has been
> suggested by a number of stakeholders to the ICANN BoD and staff.
> Thus far, adequate corrective action, if any in most instances, has
> yet to be taken.  Therefore as stakeholders we perhaps should
> be asking ourselves if the ICANN BoD and Staff are adequately
> effective in their contracted responsibilities?  And depending
> on your answer as a stakeholder, what additional action might be
> needed?
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > 1.  Preregistrations
> > The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
> > that needs to be corrected.
> >
> > 2.  Transfers
> > We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.
> >
> > 3.  ccTLDs
> > Are they inside or outside of ICANN?
> >
> > 4.  Resellers and warehousing
> > The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.
> >
> > 5.  RFCs
> > Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:53:27 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] CONCERNS - Questions to the chair candidate's (spcl. attn. Eric  Dierker)

Thank you Mr. Williams,

Adopt and see through the best practices.  Implement a series of protocols to ensure
legitimacy to the GA.

Get rid of censorship but establish an automated posting limit at seven.

Appoint and support the sublist directors and establish a system so that all are
publicly brought about to the ga list.

Ignore outside influence until we have our own house in order.

Establish and maintain internal working groups on my previously listed concerns.

Fight like hell for inclusiveness.

Create a group to enforce through public pressure enforcement of the RFCs?

Establish some liaisons with such orgs as IETF,  ORSC, DoC and the like.

Create positions where folks like you and Mr. Walsh have something akin to supoena
power to get answers to tough question.

Support our BoD members that support us.

Effectiveness is the Key and protocol is the means.

Blessed be those who care.

Sincerely,
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
>   Nice try, no cigar Eric.  I wonder if you could be a little more specific
> on the issues.  As a Chair candidate, all be it one that is self nominated,
> it would seem prudent and necessary that you as such a candidate,
> be much more specific as to the issues facing the GA members.
>
> For instance:
>
> How do you intend to address the issues from a practical point of view,
> in detail please, that the GA members have demonstrated in interest in
> and are DNS related, should you be elected chair?
>
> What are the major issues in order of importance in your opinion as
> a chair candidate?
>
>   I think for the present, you will find these two questions put to you
> as a chair candidate challenging enough to answer especially sense
> you will undoubtedly be challenged on your answers should you
> perhaps not be in step with the GA members and existing DNSO GA
> history thus far.
>
>   Of course, more questions will be forthcoming...
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Dear Mr. Rader,
> >
> > Yes I have a specific proposal.
> >
> > That proposal is quite simple and direct.
> >
> > Commit.  More time and more energy.
> >
> > Get these two important pending elections over with and then work
> > to get some money to get things done.
> >
> > Basically I want to;
> >
> > "Develop the resources of our Net, call forth its powers, build up
> > its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
> > in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
> > remembered."
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
> > Ps. My apologies for recent ungentlemanly conduct.
> >
> > "Ross Wm. Rader" wrote:
> >
> > > > 1.  Preregistrations
> > > > The system in place is not working well.  There is a nasty imbalance
> > > > that needs to be corrected.
> > > >
> > > > 2.  Transfers
> > > > We are seeing an execution of denying reality and allowing theft.
> > > >
> > > > 3.  ccTLDs
> > > > Are they inside or outside of ICANN?
> > > >
> > > > 4.  Resellers and warehousing
> > > > The current allowance is wrong and corrupt.
> > > >
> > > > 5.  RFCs
> > > > Somehow we must find an efficient way to make these effective.
> > >
> > > Should we simply accept your statements as fact and be done with it? Or do
> > > you have a proposal you would like to make, thoughts you would like to share
> > > or perhaps a direction you'd like to point us in?
> > >
> > > -rwr
> > >
> > > "Let us develop the resources of our land, call forth its powers, build up
> > > its institutions, promote all its great interests, and see whether we also,
> > > in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be
> > > remembered."
> > >   -- Daniel Webster
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eric Dierker" <[email-masked]>
> > > To: <[email-masked]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:04 PM
> > > Subject: [ga] CONCERNS
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Eric
> > > >
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