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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 08:33:23 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] (no subject)

I do not think one person should be required, nor are they able to both
run the GA and lobby on the outside.
Well maybe if they were paid 200k a year with nothing else to do.

I really think the recent NC choice not to change our chair system was
meant to keep us crippled.

But we can overcome this by nominating and then electing two folks to
run the GA.

Perhaps the two existing nominees out there - Jefsey and Kristee could
do this quite well. Their plates are already full but they are both fine
advocates and administrators.

The wrong choices here could be the death knell of the GA.

Eric

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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 15:38:22 -0600
From: [email-masked] (Kristy McKee)
Subject: Re: [ga] You Are Abusing Our Intelligence

Mike,

If you have two apples in one hand and I give you two more apples.  At the 
moment I hand you the two more apples, how many apples do you have?  I 
would say four; but am extremely curious as to what you might come up with.

:)

~k

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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:47:19 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Chair Elections and funding for the chair

Eric and all assembly members,

  Any choice, as long as it is the will by vote of the assembly members
cannot be the wrong choice.

  I agree that the next DNSO GA Chair should have a salary and some
money for traveling and ancillary expenses.  However YOU Eric were
either unwilling or unable to make that happen after accepting the
challenge of being in charge of funding for the GA.  As such, the
next Chair will be crippled to that extent, which will be significant
unless rectified.  Perhaps you could again prevail upon you
company to sponsor the Chair's budget for next year?

  Although I can appreciate your political rhetoric to the contrary
to democratic process, I cannot abide by a method that would
contemplate otherwise.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> I do not think one person should be required, nor are they able to both
> run the GA and lobby on the outside.
> Well maybe if they were paid 200k a year with nothing else to do.
>
> I really think the recent NC choice not to change our chair system was
> meant to keep us crippled.
>
> But we can overcome this by nominating and then electing two folks to
> run the GA.
>
> Perhaps the two existing nominees out there - Jefsey and Kristee could
> do this quite well. Their plates are already full but they are both fine
> advocates and administrators.
>
> The wrong choices here could be the death knell of the GA.
>
> Eric
>
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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:51:57 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] [Fwd: FC: Update on Texas mall assailing critical website with similarname]

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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 15:11:31 -0500
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Subject: FC: Update on Texas mall assailing critical website with similar
  name
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Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 19:38:30 +0000 (GMT)
From: Kieran Barry <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Bad news! (fwd)

Hi Declan,

You covered the story of Hank Mishkoff a little while back.  He was
operating a fan site on a local shopping mall near Dallas called The
Shops at Willow Bend, and the owners, Taubman, sued him in Michigan.
He is defending the suit himself, and publicising the matter through a
website available at the following names:

taubmansucks.com
willowbendsucks.com
willowbendmallsucks.com
shopsatwillowbendsucks.com

as well as a couple of others, which I don't recall.  He has posted
scanned copies of all the paperwork from the lawsuit on this site, and
used it to coordinate legal advice.

Although he only mentions the taubmansucks.com site below, it appears
that all the sites are currently down by order of the judge.  What is
particularly interesting is that in one of his filings opposing the
request that the site be pulled, he stated that doing so would damage
his ability to defend the case.

Regards

Kieran Barry

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Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:15:11 -0600
From: Hank Mishkoff <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Bad news!

Got a fax from the judge's office today -- he's expanded the preliminary
injunction to include my TaubmanSucks.com site, which I've taken
offline. While he was at it, he denied my requests to dismiss the
complaint and to change the venue to Dallas.

This doesn't come at a great time for me (not that ANY time would have a
great time to receive this news), I'm on my way out the door for a
week's vacation. I do have an idea for how I can get the site back
online (without going to jail), but that may have to wait until I get
back.

Anyway, thanks as always to all of you for your continued support,
and... STAY TUNED!
    Hank Mishkoff
    [email-masked]

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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:53:59 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] You Are Abusing Our Intelligence

Kristy and all assembly members,

  ROFLMAO!  I myself am curious as to what Mikey's answer might
be as well!  >;)

Kristy McKee wrote:

> Mike,
>
> If you have two apples in one hand and I give you two more apples.  At the
> moment I hand you the two more apples, how many apples do you have?  I
> would say four; but am extremely curious as to what you might come up with.
>
> :)
>
> ~k
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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 18:05:26 -0800
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Elections

We are doing very well, neither Jefsey nor Kristee have declined.  This
is a very positive 24 hour situation but do not hold your breath.

I sometimes read into Jefseys' writing that he has an anarchist view
point toward ICANN.

I ask him to deliberate on that point.

Perhaps some of the "founders" of the GA will come back and play a role.

I whole heartedly warn against the storm trooper type last minute slip
in of a great guy that does not regularly participate.

Are Joanna Lane, Roeland Meyer, Ellen Rony, Michael Froomkin, Brett
Fausset or Jon considering working in this regard?  They certainly are
all leaders in this endeavor.

Eric

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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 21:01:25 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Chair Elections and funding for the chair

Eric and all assembly members and/or other interested parties,

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Do not, and allow me to repeat myself, DO NOT harass my people with this
> dribble.
>
> You friggin have some alleged 118 thousand members.  But yet when it
> comes
> down to it you have not a pot to piss in.

 My my you are so unnecessarily agitated aren't you my good fellow!  >;)

  Oh well when it comes down to it I always put my money where
my mouth is.  What's interesting  is others that say they wish to see
the DNSO GA thrive and become relevant and claim to be able
to help to do so, don't come thru.  BTW, we have over 121k
members now, my good fellow...  Perhaps you haven't been
paying close enough attention..

>
>
> One more time, do not post my peoples' email to a list they do not want
> to be
> published on.  Not only are you being a jackass you are being a pain in
> the ass jackass.

  Well it was you that seemed to wish to bring them on board, not I.
I was only attempting to follow up on keeping things on a honest
and true keel.  Surely you couldn't object to such?

>
>
> Feel free to call me, but knock off this psycho crap you seem to revel
> in all
> by yourself.

  My my again my good fellow, how agitated you seem to get.  I thought
you said you believed in open and transparent.  Perhaps that was just
for public grandstanding?  Or?

>
>
> It is really weird and makes you look psychotic.

  Yeah sure.  I don't think so Eric.  You made the issue your own
and accepted the challenge, than either could not deliver or
recognized that the challenge of heading up the funding for the
GA was more than you cared to take on.  Or?

>
>
> If you keep this up I will publicly denounce you and filter your
> messages,
> something that I am sure you do not care about but I do just to distance
> myself from you and the embarrassment.

  Go ahead, be my guest.  Your actions are your own.

>
>
> Is that clear enough?

  Yes.  Was I?

>
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Eric and all assembly members,
> >
> >   Any choice, as long as it is the will by vote of the assembly members
> > cannot be the wrong choice.
> >
> >   I agree that the next DNSO GA Chair should have a salary and some
> > money for traveling and ancillary expenses.  However YOU Eric were
> > either unwilling or unable to make that happen after accepting the
> > challenge of being in charge of funding for the GA.  As such, the
> > next Chair will be crippled to that extent, which will be significant
> > unless rectified.  Perhaps you could again prevail upon you
> > company to sponsor the Chair's budget for next year?
> >
> >   Although I can appreciate your political rhetoric to the contrary
> > to democratic process, I cannot abide by a method that would
> > contemplate otherwise.
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > I do not think one person should be required, nor are they able to both
> > > run the GA and lobby on the outside.
> > > Well maybe if they were paid 200k a year with nothing else to do.
> > >
> > > I really think the recent NC choice not to change our chair system was
> > > meant to keep us crippled.
> > >
> > > But we can overcome this by nominating and then electing two folks to
> > > run the GA.
> > >
> > > Perhaps the two existing nominees out there - Jefsey and Kristee could
> > > do this quite well. Their plates are already full but they are both fine
> > > advocates and administrators.
> > >
> > > The wrong choices here could be the death knell of the GA.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
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> > Regards,
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> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail [email-masked]
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Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 21:04:17 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections - And now the funding drive is needed

Eric and all assembly members,

  Indeed right my good fellow.  And now, although very late, the funding
drive with you as it's self appointed head, is needed.  Go Eric go!  >;)

Eric Dierker wrote:

> We are doing very well, neither Jefsey nor Kristee have declined.  This
> is a very positive 24 hour situation but do not hold your breath.
>
> I sometimes read into Jefseys' writing that he has an anarchist view
> point toward ICANN.
>
> I ask him to deliberate on that point.
>
> Perhaps some of the "founders" of the GA will come back and play a role.
>
> I whole heartedly warn against the storm trooper type last minute slip
> in of a great guy that does not regularly participate.
>
> Are Joanna Lane, Roeland Meyer, Ellen Rony, Michael Froomkin, Brett
> Fausset or Jon considering working in this regard?  They certainly are
> all leaders in this endeavor.
>
> Eric
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:30:48 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Policy Post 7.14: Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without Details

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:54:51 -0500
Subject: Policy Post 7.14: Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without
Details

CDT POLICY POST Volume 7, Number 14, November 29, 2001

A BRIEFING ON PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES AFFECTING CIVIL
LIBERTIES ONLINE
from
THE CENTER FOR DEMOCRACY AND TECHNOLOGY

CONTENTS:
(1) Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without Details
(2) ICANN Board Acknowledges Need for Constrained Scope of
Activities
(3) Internal Restructuring Placed on ICANN's Agenda
(4) Meeting Addresses Issues of DNS, IP Address Security

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(1) DOMAIN NAMES BODY REAFFIRMS PUBLIC ROLE, WITHOUT
DETAILS

The directors of the body responsible for technical management of
the Internet domain name system committed to holding elections
for public representatives, but left important implementation
questions unresolved. In a resolution adopted at its meeting in
Los Angeles, the Board of Directors of the Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) also refrained from
implementing the controversial recommendations of a committee
it had tasked to examine public representation. With these actions,
the Board effectively deferred making major decisions on its own
governance structure until its next public meeting in March, 2002,
in Accra, Ghana.

ICANN coordinates critical elements of the Internet's infrastructure,
including the naming and addressing systems on which online
communications rely. Since its inception in 1998, ICANN has
faced criticism for perceived shortcomings in representing the
public interest. Presently, nine of nineteen seats on the ICANN
Board of Directors are designated for "At-Large" Directors, to be
chosen by the Internet user community -- although only five have
actually been elected by users.

In November 2000, ICANN created an At-Large Study Committee
(ALSC) to make recommendations on the question of public
participation for ICANN. The ALSC's final report, released in early
November 2001, supported the concept of user participation in
ICANN, but several of its recommendations would have limited
ICANN's inclusiveness and the voice of the user community. CDT
and others questioned the report's practicality and fairness. In
particular, the ALSC recommended that voting rights in future
ICANN elections be restricted to those owning domain names
and that public representation on the Board be limited to just six
of nineteen Directors (as opposed to the current nine).

CDT opposed both of these limitations and joined an international
coalition to provide workable alternatives. The report of that coalition,
the NGO and Academic ICANN Study, is available at
http://www.naisproject.org/.

At its Marina del Rey meeting earlier this month, the ICANN Board
accepted the ALSC document as a basis for further discussion, but
importantly declined to adopt the ALSC's questionable
recommendations.

The Board also re-committed itself to a short timeline for resolving
representation issues. The terms of the five At-Large Directors
publicly elected by Internet users in 2000 are set to expire in
November 2002, and there are currently no provisions for their
replacement. The Board resolved to begin planning election
systems, and declared once again that the selection of new At-Large
Directors should take place by November of next year.

More information on ICANN and on CDT's other activities in the area
of domain names management can be found at
http://www.cdt.org/dns/.

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(2) ICANN BOARD ACKNOWLEDGES NEED FOR CONSTRAINED
SCOPE OF ACTIVITIES

In Marina del Rey, the ICANN Board took a first step towards
acknowledging a need to place limits on the scope of its own
activities. As part of a resolution establishing a Committee on
Restructuring (see below), the ICANN Board noted that "it would
be useful... to reaffirm and clarify ICANN's limited mission for
technical management and administration."

Throughout its short history, ICANN has run the risk that it would
make policy affecting the Internet without adequate processes to
guide those policies. CDT and others have warned against the
possibility of "mission creep," the likelihood that ICANN's authority
over key resources could tempt it to enter policy areas it was
neverdesigned to handle. Already there has been some evidence
that ICANN's activities are not sufficiently limited; many observers
believe that the contracting process undertaken after last year's
selection of new global Top-Level Domains (gTLDs) was fraught
with questions about ICANN's appropriate policy role.

CDT believes that, in order to retain its legitimacy and protect the
best interests of the Internet, ICANN should take every possible
step to limit its likelihood of becoming entangled in inappropriate
policy decisions. A clear restatement of ICANN's mission -- and,
conversely, of areas not in ICANN's mission -- is necessary.

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(3) INTERNAL RESTRUCTURING PLACED ON ICANN'S AGENDA

As the issue of public representation in ICANN has continued to
gain traction, other stakeholders have begun to complain of
deficiencies in the ICANN process. Particularly within ICANN's
most diverse stakeholder group, the Domain Name Supporting
Organization, there have been long-running debates about the
relative representation of various interests, and about the efficiency
of the DNSO process in general.

This has led to a call for ICANN to revisit its internal structures. In
Marina del Rey, the Board responded by establishing a committee
of Board members to examine the issue and to report back to the
Board at future meetings.

CDT believes that ICANN's internal structure should accurately
reflect the wide range of interests affected by ICANN's activities.
We look forward to working with ICANN on this issue, and hope
that the committee will utilize an open, transparent process that
includes the input of many throughout the Internet community.

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(4) MEETING ADDRESSES ISSUES OF DNS, IP ADDRESS
SECURITY

With the events of September 11 in mind, much of the Marina del
Rey meeting agenda consisted of panel discussions and roundtable
meetings on improving the security of the systems under ICANN's
administration. Attendees heard from speakers such as security
experts Steve Bellovin and Bruce Schneier, U.S. government official
John Tritak of the Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office, and
Japanese Senior Vice Minister for Public Management, Home
Affairs, Posts and Telecommunications Kenji Kosaka.

Notes of ICANN's real-time scribe and RealVideo archives of
the speakers and roundtables are available at
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/mdr2001/archive/.

CDT recognizes that security constitutes a core part of ICANN's
mission. However, as ICANN continues its work in this area, we
urge it to remain mindful of the fact that Internet security is an
extremely broad area of which ICANN plays a small, though
important, part. As it has already recognized, ICANN cannot
and should not use its authority to promote security beyond
the systems it manages.

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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:20:09 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Policy Post 7.14: Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without Details

Patrick and all assembly members, stakeholders or interested parties,

  Indeed, the key here in this "Official" response from the ICANN BoD
and staff is "Without Details".  As most wise stakeholders or interested
parties know all to well, the devil is in the details....

Patrick Corliss wrote:

> From: CDT Email <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:54:51 -0500
> Subject: Policy Post 7.14: Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without
> Details
>
> CDT POLICY POST Volume 7, Number 14, November 29, 2001
>
> A BRIEFING ON PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES AFFECTING CIVIL
> LIBERTIES ONLINE
> from
> THE CENTER FOR DEMOCRACY AND TECHNOLOGY
>
> CONTENTS:
> (1) Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without Details
> (2) ICANN Board Acknowledges Need for Constrained Scope of
> Activities
> (3) Internal Restructuring Placed on ICANN's Agenda
> (4) Meeting Addresses Issues of DNS, IP Address Security
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (1) DOMAIN NAMES BODY REAFFIRMS PUBLIC ROLE, WITHOUT
> DETAILS
>
> The directors of the body responsible for technical management of
> the Internet domain name system committed to holding elections
> for public representatives, but left important implementation
> questions unresolved. In a resolution adopted at its meeting in
> Los Angeles, the Board of Directors of the Internet Corporation
> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) also refrained from
> implementing the controversial recommendations of a committee
> it had tasked to examine public representation. With these actions,
> the Board effectively deferred making major decisions on its own
> governance structure until its next public meeting in March, 2002,
> in Accra, Ghana.
>
> ICANN coordinates critical elements of the Internet's infrastructure,
> including the naming and addressing systems on which online
> communications rely. Since its inception in 1998, ICANN has
> faced criticism for perceived shortcomings in representing the
> public interest. Presently, nine of nineteen seats on the ICANN
> Board of Directors are designated for "At-Large" Directors, to be
> chosen by the Internet user community -- although only five have
> actually been elected by users.
>
> In November 2000, ICANN created an At-Large Study Committee
> (ALSC) to make recommendations on the question of public
> participation for ICANN. The ALSC's final report, released in early
> November 2001, supported the concept of user participation in
> ICANN, but several of its recommendations would have limited
> ICANN's inclusiveness and the voice of the user community. CDT
> and others questioned the report's practicality and fairness. In
> particular, the ALSC recommended that voting rights in future
> ICANN elections be restricted to those owning domain names
> and that public representation on the Board be limited to just six
> of nineteen Directors (as opposed to the current nine).
>
> CDT opposed both of these limitations and joined an international
> coalition to provide workable alternatives. The report of that coalition,
> the NGO and Academic ICANN Study, is available at
> http://www.naisproject.org/.
>
> At its Marina del Rey meeting earlier this month, the ICANN Board
> accepted the ALSC document as a basis for further discussion, but
> importantly declined to adopt the ALSC's questionable
> recommendations.
>
> The Board also re-committed itself to a short timeline for resolving
> representation issues. The terms of the five At-Large Directors
> publicly elected by Internet users in 2000 are set to expire in
> November 2002, and there are currently no provisions for their
> replacement. The Board resolved to begin planning election
> systems, and declared once again that the selection of new At-Large
> Directors should take place by November of next year.
>
> More information on ICANN and on CDT's other activities in the area
> of domain names management can be found at
> http://www.cdt.org/dns/.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (2) ICANN BOARD ACKNOWLEDGES NEED FOR CONSTRAINED
> SCOPE OF ACTIVITIES
>
> In Marina del Rey, the ICANN Board took a first step towards
> acknowledging a need to place limits on the scope of its own
> activities. As part of a resolution establishing a Committee on
> Restructuring (see below), the ICANN Board noted that "it would
> be useful... to reaffirm and clarify ICANN's limited mission for
> technical management and administration."
>
> Throughout its short history, ICANN has run the risk that it would
> make policy affecting the Internet without adequate processes to
> guide those policies. CDT and others have warned against the
> possibility of "mission creep," the likelihood that ICANN's authority
> over key resources could tempt it to enter policy areas it was
> neverdesigned to handle. Already there has been some evidence
> that ICANN's activities are not sufficiently limited; many observers
> believe that the contracting process undertaken after last year's
> selection of new global Top-Level Domains (gTLDs) was fraught
> with questions about ICANN's appropriate policy role.
>
> CDT believes that, in order to retain its legitimacy and protect the
> best interests of the Internet, ICANN should take every possible
> step to limit its likelihood of becoming entangled in inappropriate
> policy decisions. A clear restatement of ICANN's mission -- and,
> conversely, of areas not in ICANN's mission -- is necessary.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (3) INTERNAL RESTRUCTURING PLACED ON ICANN'S AGENDA
>
> As the issue of public representation in ICANN has continued to
> gain traction, other stakeholders have begun to complain of
> deficiencies in the ICANN process. Particularly within ICANN's
> most diverse stakeholder group, the Domain Name Supporting
> Organization, there have been long-running debates about the
> relative representation of various interests, and about the efficiency
> of the DNSO process in general.
>
> This has led to a call for ICANN to revisit its internal structures. In
> Marina del Rey, the Board responded by establishing a committee
> of Board members to examine the issue and to report back to the
> Board at future meetings.
>
> CDT believes that ICANN's internal structure should accurately
> reflect the wide range of interests affected by ICANN's activities.
> We look forward to working with ICANN on this issue, and hope
> that the committee will utilize an open, transparent process that
> includes the input of many throughout the Internet community.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (4) MEETING ADDRESSES ISSUES OF DNS, IP ADDRESS
> SECURITY
>
> With the events of September 11 in mind, much of the Marina del
> Rey meeting agenda consisted of panel discussions and roundtable
> meetings on improving the security of the systems under ICANN's
> administration. Attendees heard from speakers such as security
> experts Steve Bellovin and Bruce Schneier, U.S. government official
> John Tritak of the Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office, and
> Japanese Senior Vice Minister for Public Management, Home
> Affairs, Posts and Telecommunications Kenji Kosaka.
>
> Notes of ICANN's real-time scribe and RealVideo archives of
> the speakers and roundtables are available at
> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/mdr2001/archive/.
>
> CDT recognizes that security constitutes a core part of ICANN's
> mission. However, as ICANN continues its work in this area, we
> urge it to remain mindful of the fact that Internet security is an
> extremely broad area of which ICANN plays a small, though
> important, part. As it has already recognized, ICANN cannot
> and should not use its authority to promote security beyond
> the systems it manages.
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:57:07 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ICANN Mission Creep

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:20:09 -0800, Jeff Williams wrote:
Re: [ga] Policy Post 7.14: Domain Names Body Reaffirms Public Role, Without
Details

>   Indeed, the key here in this "Official" response from the ICANN BoD
> and staff is "Without Details".  As most wise stakeholders or interested
> parties know all to well, the devil is in the details....

Absolutely !!

I also like the second topic, "mission creep":

(2) ICANN BOARD ACKNOWLEDGES NEED FOR CONSTRAINED
SCOPE OF ACTIVITIES

In Marina del Rey, the ICANN Board took a first step towards
acknowledging a need to place limits on the scope of its own
activities. As part of a resolution establishing a Committee on
Restructuring (see below), the ICANN Board noted that "it would
be useful... to reaffirm and clarify ICANN's limited mission for
technical management and administration."

Throughout its short history, ICANN has run the risk that it would
make policy affecting the Internet without adequate processes to
guide those policies. CDT and others have warned against the
possibility of "mission creep," the likelihood that ICANN's authority
over key resources could tempt it to enter policy areas it was
neverdesigned to handle. Already there has been some evidence
that ICANN's activities are not sufficiently limited; many observers
believe that the contracting process undertaken after last year's
selection of new global Top-Level Domains (gTLDs) was fraught
with questions about ICANN's appropriate policy role.

CDT believes that, in order to retain its legitimacy and protect the
best interests of the Internet, ICANN should take every possible
step to limit its likelihood of becoming entangled in inappropriate
policy decisions. A clear restatement of ICANN's mission -- and,
conversely, of areas not in ICANN's mission -- is necessary.
<end quote>

Best regards
Patrick Corliss

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