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GA-DIGEST         Wednesday, December 5 2001         Volume 01 : Number 906

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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:56:03 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?

What are you afraid people will find out ?

Has the IETF decided to use A6 or AAAA ?

With 2002:[IPv4]:0000 used to keep people connected to the IPv4
Internet, how can the 3FFE experimental people claim to be connected ?
Can all of the current IPv4 users access the 3FFE network ?

This may help...
http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/

The Netfilter Project: Packet Mangling for Linux 2.4
http://netfilter.samba.org

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?

> Jim,
>
> You have been asked to stop posting nonsense like this to the list.
> Since you clearly choose to impede rather than help progress the work of
> the group we have no choice but to blocked your ability to post. This
> initial block will last for 2 months. Hopefully you will change your
> attitude by then.
>
> Tony
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email-masked]
> > [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Jim Fleming
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:11 PM
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked];
> > [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> > Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H (B
> > <[email-masked]>)>
> > To: "Randy Bush" <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>;
> > <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?
> >
> >
> > > >>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:31:39 -0800,
> > > >>>>> Randy Bush <[email-masked]> said:
> > >
> > > > agreed.  but the pain is minimal.  note that, initially,
> > the content of
> > > > ip6.arpa is directly that of ip6.int.  in fact, one could
> > have the same
> > > > zone file pointed to by both names.  the big pain in the
> > transition is
> > > > that of the registries, whois, etc.  and they've been
> > working on this
> > > > for some months.
> > >
> > > As for the registry side transition, I have another question.  I saw
> > > delegations for 2001:0200::/24 to APNIC.  What is the current status
> > > about 3ffe::/16?  Is there a plan to delegate ip6.arpa. sub domains
> > > for that block?
> > >
> > > JINMEI, Tatuya
> > > Communication Platform Lab.
> > > Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
> > > [email-masked]
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Others have stated that 3FFE users are on some sort of
> > "experimental network".
> > They are not connected to the real Internet, which has its
> > foundation in IPv4.
> > With the new AAAA records in the DNS, there is no room for the 3FFE,
> > because of the 2002:[IPv4]:0000 values. Apparently, the 3FFE
> > users use A6
> > DNS records, which are not recommended because of a variety
> > of reasons.
> > The IETF recently came to this conclusion. It is unclear why
> > it took so long.
> > Maybe stability and security are now more serious concerns ?
> >
> > Compare that to 2002:[IPv4]:0000 users, who are using IPv4 in
> > the extended
> > proxy mode, whereby the IPv4 header is augmented with extra
> > information to
> > route the packets to a larger address space. The 2002 users
> > can of course use
> > the IN-ADDR.[TLD] zones to record their address allocations.
> > Many companies,
> > including ICANN, are working on expanding the TLD variety.
> > This will help
> > to create the equivalent of thousands of Address Registries,
> > where there are
> > currently 3 dominant ones, and several private registries
> > operated by the companies
> > that got in early on the IPv4 address allocations.
> >
> > It all boils down to fairness.
> > Which list do you think is more fair ?
> > The "toy" IPv4 Internet Early Experimentation Allocations ?
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > or
> > The Proof-of-Concept IPv8 Allocations ?
> > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> > IPv16....One Better !!
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List
> > IPng Home Page:                      http://playground.sun.com/ipng
> > FTP archive:                      ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng
> > Direct all administrative requests to [email-masked]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

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Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:21:05 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] unsubscribe

Joanna and all assembly members,

  Thank you!  And good luck to you.  Sorry you are leaving.
you are not the only good advocate that has become a casualty
of the DNSO or ICANN in general.

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Thank you to those who remain to fight for the unrepresented.
> I will not forget you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joanna
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 00:51:33 EST
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Dear members,

Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council transfers task 
force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA member that has expressed an 
interest in representing the GA in that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one 
else volunteers for that position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA 
representative in one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest, 
an election will be held.

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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:06:34 -0800
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Tuesday, Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 9:51:33 PM, [email-masked] wrote:

> Dear members,

> Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council transfers task 
> force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA member that has expressed an 
> interest in representing the GA in that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one 
> else volunteers for that position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA 
> representative in one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest, 
> an election will be held.

Which, of course, would serve your purpose of making a mockery out of
things, so you can have your self fulfilling prophecy.

How convenient.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 01:07:57 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

WXW and all assembly members,

  Oh that's nice WXW.  Such lack of productive comments serves
no good purpose.  Why do it so often?  Is it just habit perhaps?

William X Walsh wrote:

> Tuesday, Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 9:51:33 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > Dear members,
>
> > Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council transfers task
> > force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA member that has expressed an
> > interest in representing the GA in that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one
> > else volunteers for that position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA
> > representative in one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest,
> > an election will be held.
>
> Which, of course, would serve your purpose of making a mockery out of
> things, so you can have your self fulfilling prophecy.
>
> How convenient.
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 02:54:07 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] What happened to all these TLDs ?

http://community.roxen.com/developers/idocs/rfc/rfc790.html
PEOPLE
                                 ------
   [DCA2]    Don Allen           BBN       Allen@BBND
   [CJB]     Chris Bennett       UCL       UKSAT@ISIE
   [RB6]     Richard Bisbey      ISI       Bisbey@ISIB
   [RTB]     Bob Braden          UCLA      Braden@ISIA
   [RDB2]    Robert Bressler     BBN       Bressler@BBNE
   [EC5]     Ed Cain             DCEC      cain@EDN-Unix
   [VGC]     Vint Cerf           ARPA      Cerf@ISIA
   [NC3]     J. Noel Chiappa     MIT       JNC@MIT-XX
   [SGC]     Steve Chipman       BBN       Chipman@BBNA
   [DDC2]    David Clark         MIT       Clark@MIT-Multics
   [DC]      Danny Cohen         ISI       Cohen@ISIB
   [MRC]     Mark Crispin        Stanford  Admin.MRC@SU-SCORE
   [BD2]     Brian Davies        RSRE      T45@ISIE
   [JAKE]    Jake Feinler        SRI       Feinler@SRI-KL
   [DFP]     David Flood Page    BBN       DFloodPage@BBNE
   [JWF]     Jim Forgie          LL        Forgie@BBNC
   [SWG]     Stu Galley          MIT       SWG@MIT-DMS
   [GEOF]    Geoff Goodfellow    SRI       Geoff@DARCOM-KA
   [KLH]     Ken Harrenstien     MIT       KLH@MIT-AI
   [JFH2]    Jack Haverty        BBN       JHaverty@BBN-Unix
   [JGH]     Jim Herman          BBN       Herman@BBNE
   [PLH]     Peter Higginson     UCL       UKSAT@ISIE
   [RH6]     Robert Hinden       BBN       Hinden@BBNE
   [CH2]     Charles Hornig      Honeywell Hornig@MIT-Multics
   [EAK]     Earl Killian        LLL       EAK@MIT-MC
   [PK]      Peter Kirstein      UCL       Kirstein@ISIA
   [DRL]     David Lyons         DEC       Lyons@DEC-2136
   [HM]      Hank Magnuski       ---       ---
   [JEM]     Jim Mathis          SRI       Mathis@SRI-KL
   [DM11]    Dale McNeill        BBN       DMcNeill@BBNE
   [DLM1]    David Mills         COMSAT    Mills@ISIE
   [MOON]    David Moon          MIT       Moon@MIT-MC
   [EBM]     Eliot Moss          MIT       EBM@MIT-XX
   [MO2]     Michael O'Brien     RAND      OBrien@RAND-Unix
   [KTP]     Ken Pogran          BBN       Pogran@BBND
   [JBP]     Jon Postel          ISI       Postel@ISIF
   [JZS]     Joanne Sattely      CCA       JZS@CCA
   [APS]     Anita Skelton       MITRE     skelton@MITRE
   [KRS]     Karen Sollins       MIT       Sollins@MIT-XX
   [VMS]     Virginia Strazisar  BBN       Strazisar@BBNA
   [EAT3]    Ed Taft             XEROX     Taft.PA@PARC
   [DT]      Dan Tappan          BBN       Tappan@BBNG
   [RHT]     Robert Thomas       BBN       Thomas@BBNA
   [AV]      Al Vezza            MIT       AV@MIT-XX
   [CJW2]    Cliff Weinstein     LL        cjw@LL-11

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 00:57:51 -0800 
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] NC Review Task Force -- Captured by Business Interests ? ?

|> From: Kent Crispin [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:17 AM
|> 
|> On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 12:56:03PM -0500, [email-masked] wrote:

|> > Consensus can only be reasonably measured by taking into 
|> > account the vote of those members actively choosing to 
|> > participate in a vote.  
|> > Our members have voted. The results speak for themselves. 
|> > We believe this to be measurable consensus.
|> 
|> Sorry, there is a vast difference -- the character of the 
|> organization matters a great deal. 

It's interesting that you, of all people, should bring up character.
Especially when speaking from an ICANN podium, as you do quite often. I
can't think of a better example of the character of the ICANN. As the ICANN
is the shining temple of integrity and honesty then you are its most perfect
examplar.

|> If an organization is effective, and people pay attention 
|> to it (like the registrar constituency), then the assumption 
|> that people who disagree will speak up is, for the most part, 
|> a valid one.  
|> 
|> The GA, however, is a zoo, and nobody takes it seriously.  
|> Since people don't take it seriously, there is no particular 
|> reason to speak up if it takes an insane or wildly unrealistic 
|> position, and hence the assumption that the people who do 
|> speak up are a consensus is clearly invalid. 

If I understand this properly, you would treat one group with utmost respect
and yet disrespect another, purely on subjective grounds. Maybe, simply
because they have the audacity to disagree with you? In most societies,
that's called a double-standard. One group matters because you chose to let
them matter (and they have money) and another group doesn't matter because
you don't like them. If I hadn't seen the ICANN behave this way myself, for
over two years, I wouldn't have thought that they were this honest. The
light of such honesty is glaring, that's why I will be leaving these lists
soon. How can a greedy little corporate monkey, like me, survive in the
glare of such character and integrity?

But, as you have admitted on the non-com list, you always argue passionately
on the side opposite of the person that you like the least, or that you
think is the most obnoxious, regardless of what you truely believe. That
gives your arguments such universal credibility, regardless of what they
actually are.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg03113.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc08/msg03417.html

Kent, it's been real and it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun. May you
live in interesting times and may karma return to you exactly what you so
richly deserve. I wish you all the best both now and in successive
incarnations. From now until the time of universal enlightenment, may we
always travel separate paths together.
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:38:30 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] eResolution says UDRP is flawn, Theresa appoints an Asian UDRP replacement

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/011204/n04369158_1.html
for UDRP fans.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:09:14 +1300
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

On 22:06 4/12/01 -0800, William X Walsh said:
>   If no one
> > else volunteers for that position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA
> > representative in one week's time.  Should others also declare an 
> interest,
> > an election will be held.
>
>Which, of course, would serve your purpose of making a mockery out of
>things, so you can have your self fulfilling prophecy.

Is is not self fulfilling.  It is fulfilled by those who refused to stand 
up.   Instead of spending keyboard time making  accusations, why don't you 
step up and volunteer for the TF?

It is the one field where you are knowledgeable.

>How convenient.

To keep sitting on the sidelines and snipe..

- --Joop

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:22:28 -0000
From: "Paul Cotton" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] eresolution realizes fairness doesn't pay under udrp

It is appalling that eResolution has been forced to cease their udrp
arbitration role because trademark holders were favoring the other forums
who have shown greater bias towards them.

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/172619.html

When you see comments like:

"In the end," Benyekhlef said, "we were, for all practical purposes,
financing the legitimization of a system we knew badly needed change."

and

"It is but an open secret that lawyers advising their clients in domain name
cases have no scruples about quoting the figures and saying that the odds
are better with a given provider."

from an organization like eResolution, it just shows how much of a total
failure the udrp actually is for the domain holder.

Regards

Paul Cotton

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:01:55 +0100
From: Thomas Roessler <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Declaration of Interest - NC Transfers TF

On 2001-12-05 00:51:33 -0500, [email-masked] wrote:

>Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council 
>transfers task force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA 
>member that has expressed an interest in representing the GA in 
>that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one else volunteers for that 
>position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA representative in 
>one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest, an 
>election will be held.

I'm hereby declaring my interest in participating in this task 
force, as a GA representative.  Be, however, advised that I won't be 
able to attend any phyiscal in-person meetings of the task force.

If some other reasonable candidate for this task force shows up who 
seems to be more suitable than myself, I'll happily redraw my 
candidature.

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 07:26:43 -0500 
From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] RE: Declaration of Interest - NC Transfers TF

Thomas, I expect almost all of the work of the TF to take place online.  As
so far proposed, and discussed on the initial call, there should be a few
conference calls, and significant emailing.  The TF should make a report in
Ghana. 

Regards, Marilyn Cade

- -----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Roessler [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:02 AM
To: [email-masked]; Marilyn Cade
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Declaration of Interest - NC Transfers TF

On 2001-12-05 00:51:33 -0500, [email-masked] wrote:

>Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council 
>transfers task force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA 
>member that has expressed an interest in representing the GA in 
>that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one else volunteers for that 
>position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA representative in 
>one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest, an 
>election will be held.

I'm hereby declaring my interest in participating in this task 
force, as a GA representative.  Be, however, advised that I won't be 
able to attend any phyiscal in-person meetings of the task force.

If some other reasonable candidate for this task force shows up who 
seems to be more suitable than myself, I'll happily redraw my 
candidature.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 07:57:44 -0500
From: Dan Steinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

William,

Can you offer something more constructive?

William X Walsh wrote:

> Tuesday, Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 9:51:33 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > Dear members,
>
> > Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council transfers task
> > force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA member that has expressed an
> > interest in representing the GA in that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one
> > else volunteers for that position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA
> > representative in one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest,
> > an election will be held.
>
> Which, of course, would serve your purpose of making a mockery out of
> things, so you can have your self fulfilling prophecy.
>
> How convenient.
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:49:04 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Declaration of Interest - NC Transfers TF

I think TR would do a great job.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote:

> On 2001-12-05 00:51:33 -0500, [email-masked] wrote:
> 
> >Pleased be advised that I have resigned from the names council 
> >transfers task force.  At this time, I am only aware of one GA 
> >member that has expressed an interest in representing the GA in 
> >that capacity, Jeff Williams.  If no one else volunteers for that 
> >position, I will appoint Jeff Williams as the GA representative in 
> >one week's time.  Should others also declare an interest, an 
> >election will be held.
> 
> I'm hereby declaring my interest in participating in this task 
> force, as a GA representative.  Be, however, advised that I won't be 
> able to attend any phyiscal in-person meetings of the task force.
> 
> If some other reasonable candidate for this task force shows up who 
> seems to be more suitable than myself, I'll happily redraw my 
> candidature.
> 
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 06:10:56 -0800
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Wednesday, Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 4:57:44 AM, Dan Steinberg wrote:

> William,

> Can you offer something more constructive?

Perhaps you can try and not force your view of what is constructive
onto others?

Pointing out the plain stupidity behind what our ever so diligent
(sarcasm intended) GA Chair was about to do was constructive.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:23:35 -0500
From: Dan Steinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Ummmmmmm following established rules, as per mandate....that was stupid?
Please explain that to me.

William X Walsh wrote:

> Wednesday, Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 4:57:44 AM, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>
> > William,
>
> > Can you offer something more constructive?
>
> Perhaps you can try and not force your view of what is constructive
> onto others?
>
> Pointing out the plain stupidity behind what our ever so diligent
> (sarcasm intended) GA Chair was about to do was constructive.
>
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:26:27 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Dear WXW,
I am ready to nominate you if you accept it to the NC TF. Would that TF be 
of any use you would be a good rep for the concerns of both individual and 
bulk registrants. As indicated earlier to Philip I would be ready to assist 
with some bulk registrants problem.
Let me know.
Jefsey

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 06:36:15 -0800
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Wednesday, Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 6:23:35 AM, Dan Steinberg wrote:

> Ummmmmmm following established rules, as per mandate....that was stupid?
> Please explain that to me.

There are no such rules, and there is no mandate for what he was
trying to do.

Not even you can defend appointing the anonymous party calling
themselves Jeff Williams to a task force as a GA rep.

But I have to admit it is amusing to see you try.

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 06:41:40 -0800
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

Wednesday, Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 6:26:27 AM, Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Dear WXW,
> I am ready to nominate you if you accept it to the NC TF. Would that TF be 
> of any use you would be a good rep for the concerns of both individual and 
> bulk registrants. As indicated earlier to Philip I would be ready to assist 
> with some bulk registrants problem.

I've already turned down that nomination, with great regret, and my
reasoning for doing so before would still prevent me from accepting it
now.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:54:03 -0500
From: Dan Steinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] resignation from NC transfers task force

actually....that's the price of democracy.   If people don't like the options
they either stand for election or decide it doesn't matter enough.

William X Walsh wrote:

> Wednesday, Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 6:23:35 AM, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>
> > Ummmmmmm following established rules, as per mandate....that was stupid?
> > Please explain that to me.
>
> There are no such rules, and there is no mandate for what he was
> trying to do.
>
> Not even you can defend appointing the anonymous party calling
> themselves Jeff Williams to a task force as a GA rep.
>
> But I have to admit it is amusing to see you try.
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:05:58 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Fw: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Manning" <[email-masked]>
To: "Bruce Campbell" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "JINMEI Tatuya?(B" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reverse delegation under ip6.arpa.?

> 
> I don't know whom the appropriate people are, but as the
> administrator of the existing ipv6 delegations other than
> the RIR ones, I would have hoped to have been included in
> the process. This is the first I've heard of such a meeting.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 02:03:32PM +0100, Bruce Campbell wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, JINMEI Tatuya wrote:
> > 
> > > > agreed.  but the pain is minimal.  note that, initially, the content of
> > > > ip6.arpa is directly that of ip6.int.  in fact, one could have the same
> > > > zone file pointed to by both names.  the big pain in the transition is
> > > > that of the registries, whois, etc.  and they've been working on this
> > > > for some months.
> > >
> > > As for the registry side transition, I have another question.  I saw
> > > delegations for 2001:0200::/24 to APNIC.  What is the current status
> > > about 3ffe::/16?  Is there a plan to delegate ip6.arpa. sub domains
> > > for that block?
> > 
> > This is not known, and no delegation exists in ip6.arpa for the 6bone
> > (e.f.f.3.ip6.arpa).  The focus so far in ip6.arpa delegation process has
> > been on the RIR delegations.  I have forwarded the question to the
> > appropriate people who will be meeting during IETF-52, and an answer
> > should be available then.  ( I'm actually not attending this IETF )
> > 
> > One *possible* and easy solution would be to DNAME the e.f.f.3.ip6.arpa to
> > e.f.f.3.ip6.int ( I'm ignoring technical issues of having to first
> > delegate f.f.3.ip6.arpa to a DNAME-capable set of nameservers first ).
> > 
> > This has the good side of preserving current functionality when the
> > deployed resolver bas looks at ip6.arpa instead of ip6.int.  It has the
> > down side of effectively limiting 6bone to using 'ip6.int' as you cannot
> > then DNAME back into the ip6.arpa tree.  Somehow I don't think that such a
> > restriction is what the 6bone community wants.
> > 
> > No matter what technical tricks are down further up in the tree by the
> > RIRs/ICANN etc, the change in the root ip6 tree *will* require *all*
> > currently deployed delegations to make *some* sort of change.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
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> >                                                                         NCC
> >                                                                  Operations
> 

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