Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #827
From: [email-masked] (GA-DIGEST)
To: [email-masked]

GA-DIGEST         Wednesday, October 31 2001         Volume 01 : Number 827

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:25:38 +1100
From: "Dassa" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] WIPO Arbitrators Stern In Domain 'Hijacking'  Rulings

|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of
|> Roeland Meyer
|> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:30 AM
|> To: 'Joop Teernstra'; Roeland Meyer
|> Cc: [email-masked]
|> Subject: RE: [ga] WIPO Arbitrators Stern In Domain 'Hijacking' Rulings
|>
|>
|> |> From: Joop Teernstra [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> |> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 3:42 PM
|> |>
|> |> On 13:04 28/10/01 -0800, Roeland Meyer said:
|> |>
|> |> >It is reasonable considering the alternative legal costs,
|> |> but dropping it to
|> |> >$25K US is also reasonable, considering that there is no
|> |> set criteria. In
|> |> >the case of an abusive complaint, which is usually brought
|> |> about by a large
|> |> >corp,
|> |>
|> |> I could justify $25-30 K US, but not higher.
|>
|> From a justification stand-point, any number is hard. It all seems so ...
|> arbitrary. This is the largest problem I have with the entire
|> UDRP process.

Attempting to set a bond at any amount that high is doomed to failure.
Remember, the UDRP is not a court of law.  If people wish to attain higher
damages they will need to take civil action.

The punative amount should be set equal to or just over the total cost of
initiating and proceding with any UDRP action.  Keeps it simple and within
the bounds of possibility.

Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:58:06 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: Nuestar receives contract for ".US"  cctld

Ken and all assembly members,

  Well there went the neiborhood, as they say.  I wonder when DOC/NTIA
are going to learn?  Do they not know that Nuestar is another of those
CORE scammers?  Lord! What a mess this is going to be....

Ken Stubbs wrote:

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:11:15 +0100
From: "Philip Sheppard" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Web casting sponsorship

Bradley,
thank you for the information about your organisation's ability to offer
webcasting.
For the Marina del Rey meeting ICANN has already arranged a supplier of
webcasting services and we are looking for cash sponsors to help with one
day of this.

I will however forward your mail to ICANN so that they can evaluate your
offer for future events.

Philip Sheppard
NC Chair

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 04:25:14 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] From recently posted MdR agenda - GAC reaction to NC resolution (Philip) - 20 mins 

All assembly members,

  I would suggest that the DNSO GA members need to weigh in on the
following MdR agenda item:
 http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20011026.gac-answer-NCresol.html
What say yea?

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 05:09:20 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Web casting sponsorship

Phillip and all assembly members,

  Hummm?  I thought Eric and Peter had this in control?
Eric, Peter, haven't you guys come up with the DNSO
funding yet?  No offense, but it is crunch time ya
know!

Philip Sheppard wrote:

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:58:13 +0100
From: "DNSO Secretariat" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Results of DNSO GA vote on DNSO reorganisation

[ To: [email-masked], [email-masked] ]
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[ cf. http://www.dnso.org/secretariat/b09fullrecord.html ]

ICANN/DNSO

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                            DNSO General Assembly
      Full record of the Vote on the motion on DNSO reorganisation

Monday, 29 Oct 2001, 21:00 UTC, 22:00 Paris time.

Re: b09

Full record of the Vote on the motion on DNSO reorganisation

cf. http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-DNSO-Motion-Reorg-vote.html

The vote was conducted by the DNSO Secretariat according to the
Voting Rules adopted by the GA and published in:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html .

The members to the Watchdog Committee in 2001 were requested for
supervision:

        Roberto Gaetano
        Harald Alvestrand
        Kent Crispin
        Dany Vandromme
        Alexander Svensson
        Izumi Aizu

The time for the vote was:

        Begins: Monday 22 Oct 2001, 16:00 UTC
        (12:00 New York, 18:00 Paris)

        Ends: Monday 29 Oct 2001, 17:00 UTC
        (12:00 New York, 18:00 Paris)

A. The final result:

Number of ballots sent: 447
Number of ballots received: 128 (28.6%)

        90 Agree
        24 Disagree
        14 Abstain
        (2 empty answers counted as Abstain)

The motions is adopted.

B. Fiveteen (15) Delivery-Reports:

     1  b09:K1238Z
     2  b09:K1fbdZ
     3  b09:K23e4Z
     4  b09:K3b27Z
     5  b09:K4ee9Z
     6  b09:K7188Z
     7  b09:K7417Z
     8  b09:K7822Z
     9  b09:K7977Z
    10  b09:K958aZ
    11  b09:Kba70Z
    12  b09:Kc27bZ
    13  b09:Kd1adZ
    14  b09:Kf89bZ
    15  b09:Kfbf2Z

C. Adjustements:

Besides trashing HTML format, the following adjustements were made:

1. b09:K71e2Z, splitted lines accolated
2. b09:Kc257Z, splitted lines accolated
3. b09:K95b7Z, two identical answers received, last one taken

D. Full public record:

Ballot sent with       3 choices
           b09:[ ] Agree
           b09:[ ] Disagree
           b09:[ ] Abstain

Electorate of     447 persons, casting one vote each
Ballots received from     128 persons (sorted by arrival time)
           Michael Froomkin
           Guy Millward
           Bret Fausett
           Charles Shaban
           Michael Gendron, Ph.D.
           Harald Tveit Alvestrand
           David Hernand
           Roger Klaus
           Bart Mackay
           Bruce James
           Gerard Guerin
           Friedrich Kisters
           Andrew Delamarter
           Cindy Merry
           Rob Jonas
           Oscar Robles
           Roeland Meyer
           Judith Oppenheimer
           James Ancona
           Frederic Wilf
           Marc Schneiders
           Dave Geurs
           Michael F. McNulty
           Timothy Denton
           James Sheldon
           Joe Gluza
           Harold Burstyn
           Stephane Fisbein
           Glen de Saint Gery
           Kendall Dawson
           Danny Younger
           Marc Delain
           Bradley D. Thornton
           Steve Chadima
           Olivier Guillard
           Nikhil Narayanan
           Brad Copeland
           Emilie Graille
           Jocelyn Nadeau
           Michaela Soukal
           Paul Svensson
           Jeanette Hofmann
           Dirk Lorenz
           Kerry Samovar
           Daniel UD Udatny
           Leah Gallegos
           Thor Kottelin
           Christian Singleton
           Michael Astle
           Yves Ebizet
           Lee Lowery
           Michaela Gerberich
           Jessica Westbrook
           Michael Castello
           Jose Enrique Díaz Jolly
           Gregory Beesemyer
           Shuo Lin
           Pascal Bernhard
           Meinrad Nell
           Chippu Abraham
           Joanna Lane
           Thomas Roessler
           Gregoire Seither
           Jan Hoogendoorn
           Patrick Greenwell
           Christine Russo
           Karen Dredske
           Alexander Svensson
           Matthew Pemble
           Dan Sheehy
           Gary Osbourne
           Darryl G Lynch
           Hartmut Richard Glaser
           John Patrick Palmer
           Sotiris Sotiropoulos
           Joop Teernstra
           Jeffrey Neuman
           Scott Hollenbeck
           Jean-François C. (Jefsey) Morfin
           Michael Haffely
           Hugh Blair
           Andy Duff
           Chuck Gomes
           Gary Saake
           Jeffrey Williams
           Rod Dixon
           Jan Gora
           Craig Newell
           Michael Miller
           Jacek Duniec
           Dany Vandromme
           Jackie McKay
           Adam Peake
           Stéphane Reuille
           Corinne Bariel
           Ken Stoen
           Keith Gymer
           Chris Wilkins
           David Farrar
           William X. Walsh
           Michael Schneider
           Jean-Christophe Loubet del Bayle
           Steve Metalitz
           Giacomo Catenazzi
           Kilian Wahl
           David Ishag
           Sam Michel Cembalo
           Peter de Blanc
           Benjamin Landsberger-Isaac
           Florencio Utreras
           Michel Guillou
           Nestor Requeno
           Andrew McMeikan
           William S. Lovell
           Steffen Goewe
           Annie Renard
           Susan Crawford
           Jacques Roelens
           Dale Farmer
           Roberto Gaetano
           Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
           Jason Graff
           Vincent Deveze
           Gerald St. Amand
           Jonathan Weinberg
           Steven Heath
           Tobias Kleck
           Rita Kershaw

Casted votes (sorted by personal code)
           b09:K11cfZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K14cdZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K1614Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K175aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K1884Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K1a68Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K1ad5Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K1d5bZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K1d96Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K1df1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K2197Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K22e5Z casted  0 votes
           b09:K2431Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K2528Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K2582Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K2784Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K2d0fZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K2e59Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K2fadZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K36e5Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K3794Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K3848Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K384dZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K3bd7Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K3d2eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K3dd3Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K438cZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K43b9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K44d9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K4a1dZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K4a34Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K4f2dZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K4ff6Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K540eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K54ebZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K5525Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K5631Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K56d2Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K573bZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K58dfZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K5981Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K5b4aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K5f50Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K5fe7Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K60d0Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K6589Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K65fcZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K672aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K6ac0Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K6c3bZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K6cadZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K6decZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K6f1aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K7143Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K71e2Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7379Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7795Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K79e2Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7a65Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7a87Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7af6Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7ca5Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7d95Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7e69Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K7e74Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K80b2Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K80bbZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K8193Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K8250Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K82d1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K864eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K89a3Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K8e0eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:K8ef8Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K8f45Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9094Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K95b7Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9685Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9822Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9890Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9906Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9e88Z casted  1 votes
           b09:K9ec1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Ka1a1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Ka1c5Z casted  0 votes
           b09:Ka2d1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Ka39aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Ka62aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Ka8c9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Ka947Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kaa19Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kaa37Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kaab3Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kad70Z casted  1 votes
           b09:KadedZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kb161Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kb1efZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kb25cZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kb44fZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kb6eeZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kba49Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kbe8aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kc03bZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kc0edZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kc257Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kc2cbZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kc49eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kca20Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kce2fZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kd1feZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kd3d1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kd8bbZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kdb74Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kdeb1Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Ked12Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Keeb9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf072Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf308Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf37eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf50aZ casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf576Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf5a9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf7b6Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf830Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf9a9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kf9f9Z casted  1 votes
           b09:Kfb5eZ casted  1 votes
           b09:KfcfaZ casted  1 votes

Nb of casted votes     128
Vote results, full list:
           90 Agree
           24 Disagree
           14 Abstain

Public results (sorted by personal code)
 b09:K11cfZ:[X] Disagree
 b09:K14cdZ:[x] Agree
 b09:K1614Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K175aZ:[ x] Disagree
 b09:K1884Z:[x] Abstain
 b09:K1a68Z:[ X] Agree
 b09:K1ad5Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K1d5bZ:[x] Disagree
 b09:K1d96Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K1df1Z:[X ] Agree
 b09:K2197Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K2431Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K2528Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K2582Z:[X ] Disagree
 b09:K2784Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K2d0fZ:[ x] Agree
 b09:K2e59Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K2fadZ:[X ] Agree
 b09:K36e5Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K3794Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K3848Z:[x ] Agree
 b09:K384dZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K3bd7Z:[X ] Agree
 b09:K3d2eZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K3dd3Z:[x] Disagree
 b09:K438cZ:[X] Disagree
 b09:K43b9Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K44d9Z:[ x] Abstain
 b09:K4a1dZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K4a34Z:[x ] Agree
 b09:K4f2dZ:[x] Abstain
 b09:K4ff6Z:[x] Abstain
 b09:K540eZ:[ X] Disagree
 b09:K54ebZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K5525Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K5631Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K56d2Z:[x ] Abstain
 b09:K573bZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K58dfZ:[ x] Disagree
 b09:K5981Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K5b4aZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K5f50Z:[ x] Agree
 b09:K5fe7Z:[X ] Agree
 b09:K60d0Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K6589Z:[x ] Disagree
 b09:K65fcZ:[x] Agree
 b09:K672aZ:[x] Disagree
 b09:K6ac0Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K6c3bZ:[X] Abstain
 b09:K6cadZ:[X] Disagree
 b09:K6decZ:[x] Disagree
 b09:K6f1aZ:[x ] Disagree
 b09:K7143Z:[ x] Agree
 b09:K71e2Z:[ x] Agree
 b09:K7379Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K7795Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K79e2Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K7a65Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K7a87Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K7af6Z:[X] Disagree
 b09:K7ca5Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K7d95Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K7e69Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K7e74Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K80b2Z:[x] Disagree
 b09:K80bbZ:[X] Agree
 b09:K8193Z:[ X] Agree
 b09:K8250Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K82d1Z:[X] Disagree
 b09:K864eZ:[x ] Agree
 b09:K89a3Z:[X] Disagree
 b09:K8e0eZ:[x] Agree
 b09:K8ef8Z:[ x] Agree
 b09:K8f45Z:[X] Agree
 b09:K9094Z:[X] Abstain
 b09:K95b7Z:[X ] Agree
 b09:K9685Z:[x ] Agree
 b09:K9822Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K9890Z:[X] Abstain
 b09:K9906Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K9e88Z:[x] Agree
 b09:K9ec1Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Ka1a1Z:[x] Disagree
 b09:Ka2d1Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Ka39aZ:[X] Abstain
 b09:Ka62aZ:[x] Agree
 b09:Ka8c9Z:[ X] Agree
 b09:Ka947Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kaa19Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kaa37Z:[X] Agree
 b09:Kaab3Z:[X] Disagree
 b09:Kad70Z:[X] Disagree
 b09:KadedZ:[X] Agree
 b09:Kb161Z:[x] Disagree
 b09:Kb1efZ:[x] Agree
 b09:Kb25cZ:[x] Abstain
 b09:Kb44fZ:[X] Agree
 b09:Kb6eeZ:[x ] Disagree
 b09:Kba49Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kbe8aZ:[X] Agree
 b09:Kc03bZ:[x ] Agree
 b09:Kc0edZ:[x] Agree
 b09:Kc257Z:[ X ] Abstain
 b09:Kc2cbZ:[X] Agree
 b09:Kc49eZ:[ X] Agree
 b09:Kca20Z:[X] Agree
 b09:Kce2fZ:[x] Agree
 b09:Kd1feZ:[x] Agree
 b09:Kd3d1Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kd8bbZ:[X] Agree
 b09:Kdb74Z:[X ] Disagree
 b09:Kdeb1Z:[X ] Agree
 b09:Ked12Z:[X ] Agree
 b09:Keeb9Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kf072Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kf308Z:[ x ] Agree
 b09:Kf37eZ:[ x ] Agree
 b09:Kf50aZ:[x] Agree
 b09:Kf576Z:[x] Agree
 b09:Kf5a9Z:[x] Disagree
 b09:Kf7b6Z:[ x] Agree
 b09:Kf830Z:[X] Agree
 b09:Kf9a9Z:[x ] Agree
 b09:Kf9f9Z:[x] Abstain
 b09:Kfb5eZ:[x] Agree
 b09:KfcfaZ:[x] Agree
 b09:K22e5Z:    abstention
 b09:Ka1c5Z:    abstention

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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:12:21 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] FYI - MAPS rises it's ugly head again...

All assembly members,

See:  http://www.safesurf.com/press/press27.htm

SafeSurf Press Release
   1304 Newbury Road, Unit E, Newbury Park, CA 91320
   E-mail: [email-masked] * Web Site: http://www.safesurf.com/
   FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
   October 25, 2001
   Contact : Ray Soular
   Press Phone : (818) 613-1415

                    SafeSurf Warns of Stealth Censorship

         Los Angeles, CA - Thousands of family friendly Web sites, for
no
   fault of their own, are being rendered inaccessible by "stealth
   censorship" and it may be putting people's lives at risk, warned
   SafeSurf, the online safety organization.
         This new type of censorship, promoted by a California
   corporation called Mail Abuse Prevention System, LLC (MAPS), silences

   every Web site whose address is located on a server that also happens

   to host one or two unrelated email marketing sites. However, since
the
   browser message displayed says that the Web sites are non-existent,
   online surfers have no idea they are being denied access to many
parts
   of the Internet.
         "This is stealth censorship*", remarked SafeSurf Chairman Ray
   Soular as he described how Web site owners have no rights under this
   system. "Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS) publicizes its Realtime
   Blackhole List (RBL) as being only of certified email abusers
   (spammers).  It provides this list to Internet Service Providers
(ISP)
   who rely on its accuracy when shutting out these spammers.  In
   reality, MAPS' practice of listing entire groups of IP numbers,
   instead of the specific addresses of the spammers, is causing ISPs to

   shut off access to sites that have done no wrong other than they have

   similar IP numbers to the spammers.  Its like shutting off phone
   service to thousands of people simply because they have the same
   prefix as an obscene caller," explained Soular.
         "To make matters worse, MAPS has no idea of what content it may

   be blocking. Imagine trying to connect to a crisis assistance site
   after a devastating earthquake, only to find its among a vast IP
group
   being blocked by RBL. People can die as the result of their blind
   imprecision. They MUST be regulated," Soular reasoned.
         Teleglobe, a global Internet provider who subscribes to the
   MAPS' Realtime Blackhole List (RBL), was blocking SafeSurf in many
   countries, simply because SafeSurf's Web site was on a public server
   owned by an hosting company once accused of providing services to
   email marketers.
         (News Flash Oct 29, 2001: MAPS removed SafeSurf from its
   Blackhole list and Teleglobe removed blocking.)
         "Under their system, an unsuspecting Web site can become a RBL
   hostage at any time, for any reason, and without appeal. Unless the
   owner of the server meets MAPS demands, the innocent hostage site
will
   be left to rot in the 'Blackhole'," pointed out Soular. "This is the
   worst manifestation of censorship imaginable because it is applied in

   a way which fools Web surfers into thinking they still have their
   freedom", said Soular.

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         Below is the text of SafeSurf's Open Letter to the Internet
   Community concerning MAPS' Realtime Blackhole List (RBL) that targets

   general IP groups instead of specific IP addresses.

   SafeSurf was recently alerted that we were marked for blocking, for
no
   fault of our own, by Mail Abuse Prevention System's Realtime
Blackhole
   List (RBL). SafeSurf has never sent out a single piece of junk email
   in the life of our company. Parents and Webmasters depend upon
   communication from SafeSurf to enable them to protect children on the

   Internet. As a result, by blocking SafeSurf, MAPS is endangering
   millions of children across the globe.
   MAPS' RBL blocking is censorship in its worst manifestation. It is a
   extremist system that seeks to censor people simply because they
   happen to be with the same ISP that has a particular individual that
   MAPS does not like. Their tactics would be similar to someone using a

   nuclear weapon to wipe out a cockroach.
   Although they may contact the ISP, MAPS makes no effort, whatsoever,
   to warn the people actually being censored. The innocent Web Sites
   have to depend on others to discover that their right to free speech
   has been desecrated. MAPS actions demonstrate what SafeSurf has long
   suspected; true censorship arises for the purpose of advancing the
   agenda of a particular group of individuals. Censorship is a broad
   brush that drips paint on the pure, as well as the tainted.
   MAPS may claim that their actions are in the interest of good, but in

   reality they would easily trade in the good of children to achieve
   their goal. They have more than proved this point by holding the
   SafeSurf Web Site hostage until they force the acquiescence of
others.
   MAPS has no idea of what content it may be blocking. Therefore, they
   could negligently block sites that contain important life saving
   medical information, sites that protect children, and sites that
   output emergency info during tornado watches, fire and flood alerts.
   Imagine trying to connect to a crisis assistance site after a
   devastating earthquake, only to find its among a vast IP group being
   blocked by RBL. People can die as the result of their blind
   imprecision. They MUST be regulated.
   We hate spam as much as anyone else. SafeSurf receives hundreds of
   spam emails every day. However, we cherish our civil liberties too
   much to ever trade them to the careless people who are running MAPS.
   We have tried to reason with MAPS, but they refuse to offer affected
   Web sites a case-by-case appeal process. They seem to not care about
   fairness. They are blinded by the smell of spammer's blood and do not

   seem to care how many innocent Web sites they trounce in the process.

   Then, they rationalize and try to put the blame for their wanton
   actions on everyone else.
   This issue is completely different from the debate over porn
   filtering, because in that debate, at least it was agreed that the
   sites we were discussing were responsible for their acts. In this
   case, MAPS employs an underhanded tactic of targeting the innocent in

   order to persuade the guilty.
   We must insist that MAPS operate in a responsible manner. A just
cause
   is no excuse for unjust actions. By accepting MAPS, we are, in
effect,
   agreeing to full censorship of anyone, for any reason. This is beyond

   the worst-case scenarios we could've imagined coming from
governments.
   MAPS may be on a crusade to rid the Internet of spam, but this should

   not give them the authority to deny freedoms to the blameless. It
   should not give them the power to shroud someone's brilliance simply
   because it happens to be on a MAPS targeted ISP. It should not give
   them the right to make a mockery of the pillars upon which America
was
   built.
   I feel sorry for all the subscribers to Teleglobe, which trusts MAPS'

   RBL list. They have traded access to the truth in exchange for a
   cleaner mailbox. The really sad part is they don't even know it.
   We must raise our voices to warn the online world of stealth
   censorship. For in the end, we will either loudly hold on to our
   liberty or it will become clear that we gave up our rights by our
   silence.
   Sincerely,
   Ray Soular, Chairman
   SafeSurf
   * The term, stealth blocking, was first used by Bennett Haselton in
   "The Coalition Statement Against Stealth Blocking" to be found at
   http://www.peacefire.org/.

Regards,

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Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [email-masked]
Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

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