Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #816
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GA-DIGEST           Friday, October 26 2001           Volume 01 : Number 816

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:25:34 -0400
From: Sandy Harris <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] fyi & question!

Chun Eung Hwi wrote:
> 
> Dear GA members,
> 
> Does anybody know who drafted this document?
> (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-str/Arc00/msg00005.html)

Well, from the link you give it seems to have been mailed by
[email-masked]. A quick check at www.siia.net turns up:

| About SIIA
|
| ... the Software & Information Industry Association (SIIA) has brought together
| the leading companies of the software and information industry, ... SIIA is the
| only trade association with a global reach that provides a credible, unifying 
| voice for all businesses that provide the software and information that underpin
| the digital economy. ...
|
| OUR MISSION 
|
| [among others] ... we protect the intellectual property of members, and advocate
| a legal and regulatory environment that benefits the entire industry. ...

Their contacts page at:
http://www.siia.net/glance/contacts.asp

lists him as:

| Mark Bohannon, General Counsel and Vice President for Government Affairs,
| ext. 1325, [email-masked]

> Does it remain only to wait for rubber stamp of board?

Perhaps, but we can hope the board recognise their obligations and retain
nine At Large directors despite this and other bad advice.
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:30:08 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] FYI:  .KIDS

10:00 a.m. in 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
The Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet legislative hearing 
scheduled for Thursday, October 25, 2001 has been rescheduled for Thursday, 
November 1, 2001, at 10:00 a.m. in 2123 Rayburn House Office Building. This 
hearing is on H.R. 2417, the “Dot Kids Name Act of 2001.” Witnesses will be 
by invitation only.
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:43:04 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [ga] fyi & question!

Sandy,

Mark Bohannon is the Secretary of the Intellectual Property Constituency
http://www.dnso.org/constituency/ip/ip.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:01:14 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [ga-abuse] Personal attack, by Mr Walsh, again

Kristy and all assembly members,

  First let me say thank you Kristy as one of the List Monitors for
posting this to all here.  I think it will be remembered as a useful
piece of ICANN and DNSO history for future generations.

  As to the subject matter involved.  WXW has been terribly pervasive
in his many personal vendetta's against a seemingly growing list
of individuals.  Yet it continues.  I personally ignore most of
these types of ramblings and consider the source and leave it at that.

  Kent Crispin also has been running his score it seems with his
personal dislike or several individuals as well over a number of
years on various forums past and present.  Anyone that is allowed
to attack whole groups of honest participants with a single or
few posts to a forum discussing any important matters lends
themselves to being viewed accordingly.  What is amazing
with respect to Mr. Crispin is that he has been allowed
to get away with it, and even encouraged to do so as a result
of him getting away with it.  This should not stand, but does
anyway.  Therefore I agree with Kristy's conclusion as a result.

Kristy McKee wrote:

> Joop & All,
>
> Although Mr. Walsh is on the list of folks whom our secretariat will impose
> sanctions on, it is their decision to not suspend Kent Crispin as requested
> by the List Monitor Committee this past August that created the situation
> we are dealing with today.  Since the DNSO will not suspend Kent Crispin
> under any circumstances, it is not fair or reasonable to process complaints
> against other members.
>
> This applies to all complaints received since August.  We really thought
> the DNSO had simply overlooked this; but over time we have learned that
> more that just the LMC has access to our private list.  For example, I am
> sure Mr. Walsh was aware of your complaint Joop not too long after you sent
> it to ga-abuse.
>
> Before I joined the DNSO my opinion of it was that it was a sham.  After
> working as a list monitor for the GA, I know it is a sham.
>
> ~k
>
> At 01:41 AM 10/26/2001 +1300, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:49:36 -0700
> >From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> >X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d)
> >Reply-To: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> >Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
> >To: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
> >CC: Kent Crispin <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
> >Subject: Re[3]: [ga] Songbird in the BC?
> >In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
> >References: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> >  <[email-masked]>
> >  <[email-masked]>
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >Sender: [email-masked]
> >Precedence: bulk
> >X-UIDL: 122093aea74f0e4f6656ec4e37e89965
> >
> >Thursday, Thursday, October 25, 2001, 12:52:09 AM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> >
> > >>  They
> > >>represent the single largest channel for the origination of domain
> > >>name registrations, which they handle on behalf of their user base,
> > >>and thus have a direct and compelling interest and stake in the DNS
> > >>process.
> >
> > > That should get these people out of the Individual Registrants'
> > > constituency where they do not really belong and which they may try to
> > > subvert for their own interests.
> >
> >Your paranoid fantasy of capture doesn't hold out in the facts, Joop.
> >
> >Much like your recent allegation that I am in cahoots with Louis
> >Touton to ruin you.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Best regards,
> >William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> >Userfriendly.com Domains
> >The most advanced domain lookup tool on the net
> >DNS Services from $1.65/mo
> >
> >***********
> >Must I reply to this on the list?
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:17:44 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [ga-abuse] Personal attack, by Mr Walsh, again

Thursday, Thursday, October 25, 2001, 11:07:19 AM, Kristy McKee wrote:

> Joop & All,

> Although Mr. Walsh is on the list of folks whom our secretariat will impose 
> sanctions on, it is their decision to not suspend Kent Crispin as requested 
> by the List Monitor Committee this past August that created the situation 
> we are dealing with today.  Since the DNSO will not suspend Kent Crispin 
> under any circumstances, it is not fair or reasonable to process complaints 
> against other members.

> This applies to all complaints received since August.  We really thought 
> the DNSO had simply overlooked this; but over time we have learned that 
> more that just the LMC has access to our private list.  For example, I am 
> sure Mr. Walsh was aware of your complaint Joop not too long after you sent 
> it to ga-abuse.

Actually I wasn't aware of it, but I Was expecting it.

After all, anytime the truth about him is posted he complains.

What is disappointing is to see you contributing to this person's
paranoia by suggesting that I am someone keyed in to something that I
am not.

From someone who seems to care so much about propriety (based on the
other comments in your email), I expected much more.

But then your advocacy of The Fleming IPv8/IPv16 should have clued me
in on that point.

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:43:45 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] fyi & question!

Dear Mr. Bohannon,
In your capacity as Secretary of the Intellectual Property Constituency,
could you please explain why you have a copy of a Draft Resolution for the
ICANN Board relating to the formation of our new At Large Supporting
Organization and where this originated from?

Thank you.
Regards,
Joanna

on 10/25/01 4:43 PM, [email-masked] at [email-masked] wrote:

> Sandy,
> 
> Mark Bohannon is the Secretary of the Intellectual Property Constituency
> http://www.dnso.org/constituency/ip/ip.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:51:02 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ICANN funds free lunch for the press

Wednesday October 24, 3:09 pm Eastern Time

Press Release

SOURCE: ICANN

ADVISORY/ICANN Open House for Reporters on
Nov. 11

ICANN's Open House for Reporters

   WHERE:
   ICANN's Office -- 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330, Marina del Rey,
   CA 90292

WHEN: 

November 11th (Sunday)

9:30am to 6pm 

   WHO:
   Invited and pre-registered reporters only

HOW to Register: 

Contact Mary Hewitt ([email-masked]) to RSVP and to
  (optionally) schedule an interview with Stuart Lynn. (Mary's

direct line: 310/301-5801)

   DETAILS:
   The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is
   having an open house for California technology reporters at ICANN's
   offices on Sunday, November 11. (That's the day before ICANN's
   November meetings begin (13th - 15th.)

We're inviting reporters to visit us here in our ``domain.'' You'll

be able to check out our ``headquarters'' and meet informally (on

background) with ICANN's staff and management.

   There will also be an (optional) session with some of our
   technical experts where you can get answers to your questions about
   how the Internet really works. Also, you can set an appointment for
   one-on-one interview (on the record) with ICANN's President & CEO M.
   Stuart Lynn.

We'll be open all day, from 9:30 am to 6 pm. If you're around at

lunchtime, you can grab a bite with the staff and Stuart. The

special technical session on Internet names and numbers will be

held after lunch, from 1 pm to 2 pm.

   We hope to see you here. Please give me a call or an email to let
   me know if you plan to attend. (Also, please be sure you've
   pre-registered for the ICANN Meetings...for security reasons we're
   requiring all attendees, including members of the press, to
   register in advance.)

Thank you for your attention. Hope to see you on the 11th. Don't

hesitate to call if you have any questions.

Contact: 

     ICANN
     Mary Hewitt, 310/301-5801
     [email-masked]

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:55:03 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Decision in domain name dispute upholds freedom of speech 

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011025/dcth033_1.html

Congratulations to Mr. Stephen H. Sturgeon.

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Greenwell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Decision in domain name dispute upholds freedom of speech

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Joanna Lane wrote:

> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011025/dcth033_1.html
>
> Congratulations to Mr. Stephen H. Sturgeon.

What I find even more interesting is the continual reference to invocation
of the UDRP as being a "legal proceeding."

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: PacificRoot Hostmaster <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Songbird in the BC?

That's a rhetorical question isn't it? Because we all know that the answer
is, "All of them, as long as you're on ICANN's payroll as a confidence
man." 

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, James Love wrote:

> How many constituencies can you belong to?  I thought it was just one.
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:
> 
> > The following is one of the finest examples of elitist crap one can find.  I can
> > just see this - Old chap smoking a fancy pipe while directing his boy to clean
> > his eight iron,  "but of course anyone can join the club old boyo,  Oh and by
> > the way here is a statement regards ISPs my barrister drew up for your ignorant
> > understanding"
> > 
> > Get a grip Crispin your elitist days are numbered.  Tell us about the Yacht Club
> > deal.  Tell us about your consultancy with ICANN - how about a financial
> > disclosure?
> > 
> > Better yet disclose your relationship with the executive committee of our BoD.
> > Is there a stipend that the GA could use associated with such services.  While
> > Roberts tells us that ICANN cannot support a GA or an AL tell us how much they
> > afford on your services.  And you are a member of two Constituencies?
> > 
> > Come clean or drop your comments Mr. lonely bird.  I used to think that what you
> > do is your business but now I see that you take money that could allow
> > individual users a voice on the Internet.  I hope you sleep well.
> > 
> > Quite Sincerely,
> > Eric
> > 
> > Kent Crispin wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:34:38PM -0400, [email-masked] wrote:
> > > > Jefsey, you indicated that Songbird recently became a member of the
> > > > business constituency.  The Songbird website
> > > > http://songbird.com/songbird/index.html seems to indicate that the
> > > > company is primarily an ISP.
> > >
> > > ISP's, by the definition used in the ISP and BC constituency,
> > > fundamentally provide internet connectivity to end users.  Songbird does
> > > not provide internet connectivity to anyone.  Instead, Songbird's
> > > services are limited to website hosting, design, development, and
> > > consulting.  Entities that provide these services are sometimes loosely
> > > referred to as ISPs, because the term "ISP" is used differently by
> > > different people.  But as it is used in ICANN, Songbird is not an ISP.
> > > (There is another term common in the business, "Internet Presence
> > > Provider").
> > >
> > > > How then can it be a full member of the BC
> > > > instead of merely an admitted observer?
> > >
> > > You could have figured this out yourself, but of course that would not
> > > serve your purpose.
> > >
> > > > BC Charter:  "Legally recognized for-profit business enterprises that have
> > > > been in business for less than one year and companies whose predominant
> > > > business is to be a registry, a registrar or an ISP cannot have full
> > > > membership status, but may become observers."
> > > >
> > > > I seems that Kent has developed the knack of being in a number of
> > > > constituencies simultaneously while the rest of us remain unrepresented.
> > > > Interesting.
> > >
> > > Yes, it is interesting.  It proves that the claims that you and others
> > > make about being unrepresented are simply bogus noise.  Anyone who
> > > seriously wants to participate can do so.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> > > [email-masked]                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:20:01 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Songbird in the BC?

This comment sucks, and what really sucks is it's truth.  I am sickened by Kristee's
post and revelation.

But if one of you think I am without alternative, think again.  I was informed today
that my internet cafe grass roots project had better die and die soon.  Well guess what
it is moving forward.   Bye bye elitists.  Say hello to a country club filled with wopps
like me.

Eric

PacificRoot Hostmaster wrote:

> That's a rhetorical question isn't it? Because we all know that the answer
> is, "All of them, as long as you're on ICANN's payroll as a confidence
> man."
>
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, James Love wrote:
>
> > How many constituencies can you belong to?  I thought it was just one.
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > The following is one of the finest examples of elitist crap one can find.  I can
> > > just see this - Old chap smoking a fancy pipe while directing his boy to clean
> > > his eight iron,  "but of course anyone can join the club old boyo,  Oh and by
> > > the way here is a statement regards ISPs my barrister drew up for your ignorant
> > > understanding"
> > >
> > > Get a grip Crispin your elitist days are numbered.  Tell us about the Yacht Club
> > > deal.  Tell us about your consultancy with ICANN - how about a financial
> > > disclosure?
> > >
> > > Better yet disclose your relationship with the executive committee of our BoD.
> > > Is there a stipend that the GA could use associated with such services.  While
> > > Roberts tells us that ICANN cannot support a GA or an AL tell us how much they
> > > afford on your services.  And you are a member of two Constituencies?
> > >
> > > Come clean or drop your comments Mr. lonely bird.  I used to think that what you
> > > do is your business but now I see that you take money that could allow
> > > individual users a voice on the Internet.  I hope you sleep well.
> > >
> > > Quite Sincerely,
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Kent Crispin wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:34:38PM -0400, [email-masked] wrote:
> > > > > Jefsey, you indicated that Songbird recently became a member of the
> > > > > business constituency.  The Songbird website
> > > > > http://songbird.com/songbird/index.html seems to indicate that the
> > > > > company is primarily an ISP.
> > > >
> > > > ISP's, by the definition used in the ISP and BC constituency,
> > > > fundamentally provide internet connectivity to end users.  Songbird does
> > > > not provide internet connectivity to anyone.  Instead, Songbird's
> > > > services are limited to website hosting, design, development, and
> > > > consulting.  Entities that provide these services are sometimes loosely
> > > > referred to as ISPs, because the term "ISP" is used differently by
> > > > different people.  But as it is used in ICANN, Songbird is not an ISP.
> > > > (There is another term common in the business, "Internet Presence
> > > > Provider").
> > > >
> > > > > How then can it be a full member of the BC
> > > > > instead of merely an admitted observer?
> > > >
> > > > You could have figured this out yourself, but of course that would not
> > > > serve your purpose.
> > > >
> > > > > BC Charter:  "Legally recognized for-profit business enterprises that have
> > > > > been in business for less than one year and companies whose predominant
> > > > > business is to be a registry, a registrar or an ISP cannot have full
> > > > > membership status, but may become observers."
> > > > >
> > > > > I seems that Kent has developed the knack of being in a number of
> > > > > constituencies simultaneously while the rest of us remain unrepresented.
> > > > > Interesting.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it is interesting.  It proves that the claims that you and others
> > > > make about being unrepresented are simply bogus noise.  Anyone who
> > > > seriously wants to participate can do so.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> > > > [email-masked]                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: PacificRoot Hostmaster <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] FYI:  .KIDS and both .BIZs

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 [email-masked] wrote:

> 10:00 a.m. in 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
> The Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet legislative hearing 
> scheduled for Thursday, October 25, 2001 has been rescheduled for Thursday, 
> November 1, 2001, at 10:00 a.m. in 2123 Rayburn House Office Building. This 
> hearing is on H.R. 2417, the “Dot Kids Name Act of 2001.” Witnesses will be 
> by invitation only.

Not to worry, this hearing will take place for us :)

Just part of the process to reign in the maverick ICANN for its refusal to
delegate or even recognize legitimate TLDs such as this .KIDS that has
existed for several years and is of course provided to the Global Internet
Community as a public service of The PacificRoot.

Nothing new here, ICANN either bows in dishonor and admits the TLDs we've
been carrying for years (.KIDS being one of them) or they continue to lose
market share as a deprecated system for DNS resolution.

The problem has to do with the colliders - meaining the ones introduced by
ICANN (.BIZ, for example).

But that solution has been worked out as well, Thanks to the public
suggestions by Karl Auerbach offering that there isn't any reason why
there can't be several root systems with colliding TLDs. 

Although we DO NOT think this is okay, it is a reality, and the nice thing
about technology is that you use it to adapt to the way that things are. 

ICANN has declared that they are only responsible for what is in their
root, and continuing on in that vein they have demonstrated to the world
that they thing it is okay to have multiple instances of TLDs emanating
from different sets of Authoritative TLD Servers. Actions speak louder
than words, and those are ICANN's actions.

Our words have been saying to you all that this is not okay, even though
as Karl Auerbach as pointed out on several occasions it presents no
problem whatsoever. Our Actions, however, say, "If that's the way you want
it, that's the way you'll get it ICANN."

Bear in mind that The PacificRoot and the TLD Holders for any of the
original, legitimate TLDs that ICANN has introduced colliders with "ARE
NOT" approved or sanctioned in any way by The PacificRoot. That having
been said, it is also general knowledge that The PacificRoot, as part of
it's mission, is to provide DNS resolution for ALL TLDs. 

Although by directly upgrading your DNS you will not have to worry about
being directed to the unauthorized and what we consider illegitimate
colliders introduced by IANN, in keeping with our commitment in being the
root of choice for ISPs and users alike the world over, we found it
neccessary to offer the "choice" that many people may want to have with
regards to the collider issue.

The PacificRoot continues to gain worldwide acceptance and preference over
that of the Alternate, deprecated ICANN legacy system for this elementary
principle, and also continues to forge strategic Partner alliances with
other sensible organizations around the globe.

One of these Strategic alliances has produced the first and only browser
plug-in that enables the user themselves to make their own choices as to
which instance of a colliding SLD.TLD they wish to see. This plug-in
effectively corrects problems imposed by blocks, proxies, AOL
deficiencies, and other dificulties that the consumer may face due to the
security threats that ICANN has decided to introduce to the Internet.

The Plug-in also auto-upgrades itself via a live update like feature so
that ICANN can introduce as many colliders as they like and ALL TLDs will
still be supported.

Nothing really beats straight DNS and using the correct resolvers, but
this is a great solution for people who base their systems on Microsoft
Win32 Operating systems (All of them) and it easier to install than Real
Player - and we all know how easy that is :)

You can get it here: http://PacificRoot.com/updatedns.shtml

All Domains, All the World, All the Time :)

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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:42:55 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN funds free lunch for the press

Joanna and all assembly members,

  I hope that some of the press folks "Invited" will be bringing their
own food testers/tasters!

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Wednesday October 24, 3:09 pm Eastern Time
>
> Press Release
>
> SOURCE: ICANN
>
> ADVISORY/ICANN Open House for Reporters on
> Nov. 11
>
> ICANN's Open House for Reporters
>
>    WHERE:
>    ICANN's Office -- 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330, Marina del Rey,
>    CA 90292
>
> WHEN:
>
> November 11th (Sunday)
>
> 9:30am to 6pm
>
>    WHO:
>    Invited and pre-registered reporters only
>
> HOW to Register:
>
> Contact Mary Hewitt ([email-masked]) to RSVP and to
>   (optionally) schedule an interview with Stuart Lynn. (Mary's
>
> direct line: 310/301-5801)
>
>    DETAILS:
>    The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is
>    having an open house for California technology reporters at ICANN's
>    offices on Sunday, November 11. (That's the day before ICANN's
>    November meetings begin (13th - 15th.)
>
> We're inviting reporters to visit us here in our ``domain.'' You'll
>
> be able to check out our ``headquarters'' and meet informally (on
>
> background) with ICANN's staff and management.
>
>    There will also be an (optional) session with some of our
>    technical experts where you can get answers to your questions about
>    how the Internet really works. Also, you can set an appointment for
>    one-on-one interview (on the record) with ICANN's President & CEO M.
>    Stuart Lynn.
>
> We'll be open all day, from 9:30 am to 6 pm. If you're around at
>
> lunchtime, you can grab a bite with the staff and Stuart. The
>
> special technical session on Internet names and numbers will be
>
> held after lunch, from 1 pm to 2 pm.
>
>    We hope to see you here. Please give me a call or an email to let
>    me know if you plan to attend. (Also, please be sure you've
>    pre-registered for the ICANN Meetings...for security reasons we're
>    requiring all attendees, including members of the press, to
>    register in advance.)
>
> Thank you for your attention. Hope to see you on the 11th. Don't
>
> hesitate to call if you have any questions.
>
> Contact:
>
>      ICANN
>      Mary Hewitt, 310/301-5801
>      [email-masked]
>
>
>
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:45:16 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Resolution on GAC

All assembly members,

  From the NCC-Discuss list:
[ncdnhc-discuss] Resolution on GAC
   Date:  Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:17:41 -0400
   From: "Milton Mueller" <[email-masked]>
     To: <[email-masked]>

Resolution on the GAC September 9 2001
Communique and the ICANN's Board's response

1. Whereas: Supporting Organizations are defined in
ICANN's bylaws as "advisory bodies to the Board, with the
primary responsibility for developing and recommending
substantive policies regarding those matters falling
within their specific responsibilities" (Article VI, Section
2 (b), and

2. Whereas: Article VI, Section 2 (c) of the ICANN bylaws
requires the Board to "refer proposals for substantive
policies not received from a Supporting Organization to the
Supporting Organization, if any, with primary responsibility
for the area to which the proposal relates for initial
consideration and recommendation to the Board." and

3. Whereas: the issue of country name reservations
in new top-level domains is clearly a "substantive
policy" regarding domain names and as such
falls within the the DNSO's area of responsibility:

Resolved, that the Noncommercial domain name
holders constituency

1. Advises the staff and Board of ICANN that the
GAC communique of 9 September, 2001 raised
substantive policy issues and should have been
referred to the DNSO for initial consideration;

2. Condemns ICANN Board resolution
01.93, adopted in Montevideo September 10, 2001,
as a violation of the ICANN by-laws;

3. Rejects the President's Action plan as yet
another violation of the Corporation's by-laws,
for describing a process of policy making that
bypasses the DNSO;

4. Calls upon the GAC to respect ICANN's
organic, bottom-up processes, and to
refrain from all attempts to set
domain name policy without going
through the DNSO.

Regards,

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Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [email-masked]
Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

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