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GA-DIGEST          Tuesday, October 16 2001          Volume 01 : Number 793

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:22:04 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] task force appointments

I have found no indication either in history (except just recently here)
or in any written rules that TF members should be duly elected.

As a dotcommoner I address this whole issue of bottoms up and
democracy.  This is not a right now thing it takes time.  We do our best
and as our best gets better so will representativeness.  The US
revolution and independence was not based upon a popular vote and even
then it took over a hundred years and a half a million lives to get
women and ex-slaves the vote.  First let us work on effectiveness and
then as time and energy permits let us work on purity of system.

Look, I am even contemplating withdrawing my objection to some type of
domain name control to be a criteria for at-large. This will help insure
security and require some knowledge of that which we vote. We can also
raise awareness of Names and addresses and ccTLDs. Perhaps having my
ideal of every user having a vote will take a little more time. But
without compromise and acceptance to some expedience we grow stale and
stalemated.

I praise Danny for moving forward and for Jeff and William, regardless
of differences lending support to Danny's effectiveness.  Perhaps Jeff
should fill Williams declined spot and from that position cause a
committee election to confirm the choice.  Inclusion is finally gaining
ground through our chair.

Sincerely,
Eric

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:51:18 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Structure

I do believe that someone needs to draw chart and how it relates to new
BoD seats and possible new SOs.

IDNO = how many seats?
AL = how many seats?
ccTLDs = how many seats?
Registry = how many seats?
Registrars = how many seats?
ASO =?

I am sure we all get the picture.

Has there ever been a public vote on retaining our lawyers?

Have we invited any US senators to MDR?

Is the NSA, CIA, FBI or the equivelent from any nation going to be there
in MDR - Security?

Sincerely,
Eric

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:24:41 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Money

We need funding right here and right now.  Of course it will be a long
process and I truly ask those with Ideas to contribute.  Let us take the
long term, non defeatist, point of view and establish a committee to
first bring us links and connections to funding and then form a group to
send feelers out and then decide what we should do in order to bridge
this should to will do gap.

Life is good,

Eric

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:21:29 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] task force appointments

Eric and all assembly members,

Eric Dierker wrote:

> I have found no indication either in history (except just recently here)
> or in any written rules that TF members should be duly elected.

Perhaps you should read the following for a better guideline:
From:http://www.dnso.org/dnso/gaindex.html

b06: 24 Jun - 11 Jul 2001, DNSO GA election to designate its
representative to the Names Council Review Task Force
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-ReviewTF-vote.html, Roberto
Gaetano is elected.

b07: 5-25 Jul 2001, DNSO GA election to designate its representative to
the Names Council UDRP Task
Force http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.GA-UdrpTF-vote.html, Dan
Steinberg is elected.

b08: 17-31 Aug 2001, DNSO GA election to designate its representative
to two Names Council Task Forces: IDN and dot org
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GA-IDN-dotorgTF.html

>
>
> As a dotcommoner I address this whole issue of bottoms up and
> democracy.  This is not a right now thing it takes time.  We do our best
> and as our best gets better so will representativeness.

  Very much agreed.  But we must be ethical, honest, and forthright
as we do so...

>  The US
> revolution and independence was not based upon a popular vote and even
> then it took over a hundred years and a half a million lives to get
> women and ex-slaves the vote.

  That was the giving birth of a nation. This is not.  That was 200+ yrs
ago.  Much has changed sense than.  Such comparisons are questionable
in many respects at best.

>  First let us work on effectiveness and
> then as time and energy permits let us work on purity of system.

  Good effectiveness requires that we do not disenfranchise our fellow
GA members unnecessarily.  Ergo a vote given a already fairly good
voting procedure is already in place, commence, first starting with a
nomination process, which could be shortened if need be to address 
your effectiveness desire, Eric.  Than a Ballot, with also a 
shortened voting period to also meet your effectiveness desire, 
Eric.  But we should not, nay, we must not disenfranchise or fellow 
GA members as to not allow for them to elect their representatives!
The GA must NEVER bow to expediency for the sake of expediency 
itself!  The GA must NEVER, if it is to ever be continued as a 
viable body, to a dictatorial method of determining it's 
representatives in ANY of it's endeavors!

>
>
> Look, I am even contemplating withdrawing my objection to some type of
> domain name control to be a criteria for at-large.

  This is your privilege, as it is anyone that is a Stakeholoder, of
course.

> This will help insure
> security and require some knowledge of that which we vote.

  How, pray tell???

> We can also
> raise awareness of Names and addresses and ccTLDs. Perhaps having my
> ideal of every user having a vote will take a little more time. But
> without compromise and acceptance to some expedience we grow stale and
> stalemated.

  Not necessarily.  Shortening the periods between nomination or
self nomination and Ballot to Vote will likely be sufficient.  One
should also remember that "Haste makes waste"!

>
>
> I praise Danny for moving forward and for Jeff and William, regardless
> of differences lending support to Danny's effectiveness.  Perhaps Jeff
> should fill Williams declined spot and from that position cause a
> committee election to confirm the choice.

  I would decline the offer if offered unless or until there was 
going to be a budget available for the research and hard work 
required by the TF members involved and I was voted as such
by my fellow GA members.  It would seem that you 
Eric are so keen on getting this going, perhaps you should 
consider in volunteering in also heading up the funding 
drive for these TF's and the GA representatives.

>  Inclusion is finally gaining
> ground through our chair.

  Our chair is trying to find good workable solutions.  A good chair
is wise to listen to his fellow members for guidance and assistance
in arriving at those solutions...  Let us not move to hastely,
but rather with dilagance, vigilance, and responsibly.  

>
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:27:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Money

Eric,

first you need to see if ICANN will allow the GA to use its accounts, most
constituencies use ICANN to collect monies, if the GA had a chair, and
secretary and could collect and disemberse monies then you would be on the
way to funding the GA.

If you can do this then you are on your way, but not before.

- -rick

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:

> We need funding right here and right now.  Of course it will be a long
> process and I truly ask those with Ideas to contribute.  Let us take the
> long term, non defeatist, point of view and establish a committee to
> first bring us links and connections to funding and then form a group to
> send feelers out and then decide what we should do in order to bridge
> this should to will do gap.
>
> Life is good,
>
> Eric
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:19:14 +0200
From: Thomas Roessler <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

On 2001-10-15 21:57:12 +0000, David Farrar wrote:

>I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the 
>dynamics of who stood and did not stand were influenced by the 
>other candidates.
>
>When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within 
>three months I would say we can survive without one.

Sounds reasonable.

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 01:58:57 +1300
From: DPF <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: Task Force appointees

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:58:42 EDT, [email-masked] wrote:

>The General Assembly needs to provide a representative to the NC Structure 
>Task Force.  As this particular TF has already convened, it is appropriate, 
>in this instance, for the Chair to appoint a representative (as an election 
>process can take several weeks to complete and there is an immediate need for 
>our participation in this particular TF).  Having reviewed the names of those 
>that have declared their interest, I have decided to appoint David Farrar to 
>be our representative.  
>
>I would ask David to chair a committee tasked with developing the GA's 
>position on ICANN's future structure, and to seek the counsel of those other 
>members that have declared an interest in this area.

In view of the tight time-frame I'm happy to represent the GA on the
Structure Taskforce and to work towards a consensus position
formulation.

I seek input as to where is the best forum to gather a consensus
opinion.  We could set up a dedicated mailing list, or use one of the
GA sub-lists or even use the GA itself recognising that this area is
one where almost all participants have an interest.

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:03:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan Weinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote:

> On 2001-10-15 21:57:12 +0000, David Farrar wrote:
> >I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the 
> >dynamics of who stood and did not stand were influenced by the 
> >other candidates.
> >When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within 
> >three months I would say we can survive without one.
> 
> Sounds reasonable.

	Yup.

Jon

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:29:33 +0200
From: "DNSO Secretariat" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] NC teleconf MP3 recording now available

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:58:32 -0700
From: "Tim Langdell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

But the term isn't up within 3 months, right? Danny and Patrick got elected
relatively recently, so there is most of at least one year left, yes?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Weinberg" <[email-masked]>
To: "Thomas Roessler" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote:
>
> > On 2001-10-15 21:57:12 +0000, David Farrar wrote:
> > >I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the
> > >dynamics of who stood and did not stand were influenced by the
> > >other candidates.
> > >When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within
> > >three months I would say we can survive without one.
> >
> > Sounds reasonable.
>
> Yup.
>
> Jon
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:41:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan Weinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

	Our last election process covered the period from March 2 through
April 10, 2001.  <http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GAchair.html>.  
If we stick to that schedule, we'll be electing a new chair and alt chair
in 4 1/2 months.  That's more time than I'd thought, but I suspect that
just continuing to bumble along without one will still be at least as
successful a strategy as any alternative.

Jon

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Tim Langdell wrote:

> But the term isn't up within 3 months, right? Danny and Patrick got elected
> relatively recently, so there is most of at least one year left, yes?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Weinberg" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Thomas Roessler" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement
> 
> 
> > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> >
> > > On 2001-10-15 21:57:12 +0000, David Farrar wrote:
> > > >I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the
> > > >dynamics of who stood and did not stand were influenced by the
> > > >other candidates.
> > > >When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within
> > > >three months I would say we can survive without one.
> > >
> > > Sounds reasonable.
> >
> > Yup.
> >
> > Jon
> >
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:43:37 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Money

Rick and all assembly members,

  Excuse me Rick, but why can't the GA collect and set up it's
own accounting and treasurer to handle however many accounts
it may require?  As far as I know there is nothing in the bylaws
that prevents this...  Please advise...

Thank you in advance for you consideration and cooperation
in this regard.

Rick H Wesson wrote:

> Eric,
>
> first you need to see if ICANN will allow the GA to use its accounts, most
> constituencies use ICANN to collect monies, if the GA had a chair, and
> secretary and could collect and disemberse monies then you would be on the
> way to funding the GA.
>
> If you can do this then you are on your way, but not before.
>
> -rick
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > We need funding right here and right now.  Of course it will be a long
> > process and I truly ask those with Ideas to contribute.  Let us take the
> > long term, non defeatist, point of view and establish a committee to
> > first bring us links and connections to funding and then form a group to
> > send feelers out and then decide what we should do in order to bridge
> > this should to will do gap.
> >
> > Life is good,
> >
> > Eric
> >
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:41:33 -0700
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

The real problem is that the few rules that we have, don't include rules for
succession.

|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Jonathan Weinberg [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 8:42 AM
|> To: Tim Langdell
|> Cc: [email-masked]
|> Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement
|> 
|> 
|> 	Our last election process covered the period from March 
|> 2 through
|> April 10, 2001.  
|> <http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GAchair.html>.  
|> If we stick to that schedule, we'll be electing a new chair 
|> and alt chair
|> in 4 1/2 months.  That's more time than I'd thought, but I 
|> suspect that
|> just continuing to bumble along without one will still be at least as
|> successful a strategy as any alternative.
|> 
|> Jon
|> 
|> 
|> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Tim Langdell wrote:
|> 
|> > But the term isn't up within 3 months, right? Danny and 
|> Patrick got elected
|> > relatively recently, so there is most of at least one year 
|> left, yes?
|> > 
|> > ----- Original Message -----
|> > From: "Jonathan Weinberg" <[email-masked]>
|> > To: "Thomas Roessler" <[email-masked]>
|> > Cc: <[email-masked]>
|> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:03 AM
|> > Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement
|> > 
|> > 
|> > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote:
|> > >
|> > > > On 2001-10-15 21:57:12 +0000, David Farrar wrote:
|> > > > >I've never been a fan of just taking the closest 
|> runner-up as the
|> > > > >dynamics of who stood and did not stand were influenced by the
|> > > > >other candidates.
|> > > > >When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within
|> > > > >three months I would say we can survive without one.
|> > > >
|> > > > Sounds reasonable.
|> > >
|> > > Yup.
|> > >
|> > > Jon
|> > >
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:12:03 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

Jonathan and all assembly members,

  I tend to agree with Jonathans assessment here as adequate for now,
unless Danny feels that he needs an Alt-Chair immediately or
very soon.  If so, than perhaps an election to replace the
vacant Alt-Chair position is in order.  Danny, do you feel the
need for and Alt-Chair very soon or ASAP?  Please advise.

  As we all surely know, the Alt-Chair is a position that normally
is a stand in for the Chair in times of absence of the Chair or
if the Chair is temporarily unable to preside.  As such, it would
seem possible but rather unusual that in such a short period
of time that an Alt-Chair is needed.  In the event however
that some catastrophe should occur to adversely affect the
Chair to where he/she is unable to preside, than and immediate
election should be held anyway for new Chair and Alt-Chair...

Jonathan Weinberg wrote:

>         Our last election process covered the period from March 2 through
> April 10, 2001.  <http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GAchair.html>.
> If we stick to that schedule, we'll be electing a new chair and alt chair
> in 4 1/2 months.  That's more time than I'd thought, but I suspect that
> just continuing to bumble along without one will still be at least as
> successful a strategy as any alternative.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Tim Langdell wrote:
>
> > But the term isn't up within 3 months, right? Danny and Patrick got elected
> > relatively recently, so there is most of at least one year left, yes?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Weinberg" <[email-masked]>
> > To: "Thomas Roessler" <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2001-10-15 21:57:12 +0000, David Farrar wrote:
> > > > >I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the
> > > > >dynamics of who stood and did not stand were influenced by the
> > > > >other candidates.
> > > > >When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within
> > > > >three months I would say we can survive without one.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds reasonable.
> > >
> > > Yup.
> > >
> > > Jon
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:38:00 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Money

Eric, Rick and all assembly members,

  As promised Eric, I am posting my response here to the GA
as they are obviously effected and involved and deserve to
be included as such...

(More of my response/comments below Eric's)

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Jeff and Rick,
>
> I really think that Jeff's thinking here is correct.  Since there is no rule
> excluding it, we should take the liberty to do it.

  I wasn't referring to any "Rule", I stated clearly that the ICANN
Bylaws do not prevent the GA from having their own funding.
(See my exact statement below in my previous response)

>  There is a really cool latin
> legal term for it, something like nonexclusio inclusio.  I think the same should
> hold true for the appointments by Danny.  Just do it!

  As I am usually a strong believer in the "Just Do It" method for many
things, this is not TWO of them.  Just Do It Right, is more like it IMHO.

 - Qualifications for Treasurer should be outlined.
 - Fund or funds (Various accounts) should be established initially
    that outline what the funds, when collected, ar to be used for.
- -Budgeting for those funds for specific projects should be decided
  by the GA membership or at least approved by the GA membership
  before disbursement via vote of the GA.
- - The treasurer should decide what financial institution will be the
   holding firm for the accounts.  And the treasurer should disburse them
   in a manner that is appropriate, legal, and above all safe/secure.
- - The accounts should be available to any and all GA members either
   Via a web page or by request to the treasurer at any time.  I would
   suggest the former.
- -The treasurer must be bonded or be able to become bonded and the funds
  to pay for such bonding if necessary should come from the GA funds.

  Some may think this will take too much time.  Well I can dispel that
notion.  I have on many occasions set this up in a period not exceeding
two weeks.

>
>
> Now this does not mean that I think we should leave it this way.  We should keep
> up with pressing business and work on good rules to asure appropriate
> representativeness in the future.

  As the DNSO is part of ICANN as a whole as a supporting organization
in the current structure, the "Rules" as you say must adhere to the ICANN
Bylaws.  Any legitimate "Rules" that the GA itself has or will have in the
future must be in place first, before proceeding or as you do proceed,
not afterwards.  To do so afterwards invites scams of various sorts
that it would lead to disenfranchisement and distrust, both of which
the ICANN and the DNSO already has enough of now.  So let's
not add insult to injury and proceed in an after the fact way here...

>
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Rick and all assembly members,
> >
> >   Excuse me Rick, but why can't the GA collect and set up it's
> > own accounting and treasurer to handle however many accounts
> > it may require?  As far as I know there is nothing in the bylaws
> > that prevents this...  Please advise...
> >
> > Thank you in advance for you consideration and cooperation
> > in this regard.
> >
> > Rick H Wesson wrote:
> >
> > > Eric,
> > >
> > > first you need to see if ICANN will allow the GA to use its accounts, most
> > > constituencies use ICANN to collect monies, if the GA had a chair, and
> > > secretary and could collect and disemberse monies then you would be on the
> > > way to funding the GA.
> > >
> > > If you can do this then you are on your way, but not before.
> > >
> > > -rick
> > >
> > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:
> > >
> > > > We need funding right here and right now.  Of course it will be a long
> > > > process and I truly ask those with Ideas to contribute.  Let us take the
> > > > long term, non defeatist, point of view and establish a committee to
> > > > first bring us links and connections to funding and then form a group to
> > > > send feelers out and then decide what we should do in order to bridge
> > > > this should to will do gap.
> > > >
> > > > Life is good,
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
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