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GA-DIGEST          Tuesday, October 16 2001          Volume 01 : Number 792

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:06:01 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Court blocks .biz name plan

Chris and all,

  Thanks Chris for sharing this with us all..

Chris Chiu wrote:

> A trial judge has ruled that certain processing fees to register in the new
> .biz Top-Level domain may constitute an illegal lottery. The case centers
> around the registration methods for .biz, including a special IP Claim
> Service that gives advance preferences to intellectual property holders.
> Among other things, the judge has ordered NeuLevel, the proprietor of .biz
> (under the auspices of ICANN), not to rollout some 53 000 contested names
> that have been registered under this scheme, and to give the court US $3 000
> 000 to cover possible refunds. NeuLevel had already pushed back its .biz
> launch date several weeks, although it claimed that the postponement had
> nothing to do with ongoing litigation.
>
> See
> http://www.internetdemocracyproject.org/#highlights
>
> Sincerely,
> Christopher Chiu
> Global Internet Liberty Campaign Organizer
> American Civil Liberties Union
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:33:11 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

Dear members,

We have received the following query from the Names Council:

Danny,
following the resignation of the alt chair, what action do you propose 
taking? Will you be holding new elections or looking at the previous election 
for the next person on the list?
 
Philip Sheppard
NC Chair

As the General Assembly's rules do not offer sufficient guidance in this 
area, it is appropriate that the membership discuss this matter.  In essence, 
do we promote Eric Dierker to the position of Alt. Chair, or do we convene 
new elections?  Is there justification for the Chair to appoint a temporary 
Alt. Chair until the elections are held (if we decide that elections are 
warranted?)  Let me know your thoughts so that we can move forward 
accordingly.  Thank you.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:57:12 GMT
From: David Farrar <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

> As the General Assembly's rules do not offer sufficient guidance in this 
> area, it is appropriate that the membership discuss this matter.  In essence, 
> do we promote Eric Dierker to the position of Alt. Chair, or do we convene 
> new elections?  Is there justification for the Chair to appoint a temporary 
> Alt. Chair until the elections are held (if we decide that elections are 
> warranted?)  Let me know your thoughts so that we can move forward 
> accordingly.  Thank you.

I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the dynamics of 
who stood and did not stand were influenced by the other candidates.

When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within three months I 
would say we can survive without one.

I have no problem with the Chair appointing a replacement Alt Chair (like with 
US politics) as I do beleive compatibility is important.

DPF

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:58:42 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Task Force appointees

The General Assembly needs to provide a representative to the NC Structure 
Task Force.  As this particular TF has already convened, it is appropriate, 
in this instance, for the Chair to appoint a representative (as an election 
process can take several weeks to complete and there is an immediate need for 
our participation in this particular TF).  Having reviewed the names of those 
that have declared their interest, I have decided to appoint David Farrar to 
be our representative.  

I would ask David to chair a committee tasked with developing the GA's 
position on ICANN's future structure, and to seek the counsel of those other 
members that have declared an interest in this area.

The Names Council has also established a Task Force to attend to the issue of 
intra-registrar transfers.  Although we have not yet been asked to provide a 
representative (probably an oversight), I am reasonably confident that such 
an invitation will be forthcoming as this matter was brought to the attention 
of the Council by the GA.  

As this issue must also be dealt with in an expeditious manner, I also 
consider it appropriate to appoint a representative to facilitate the rapid 
resolution of outstanding issues.  For this Task Force we will need the 
benefit of a representative with a passionate interest in the subject who has 
demonstrated a commitment to registrant rights.    Accordingly,  I am asking 
William Walsh to accept this responsibility, and to similarly chair a 
committee that will discuss GA concerns relative to the transfers issue.  

I would ask both David and William to confirm their appointments.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:02:28 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

Danny and all assembly members,

  I would suggest that a temporary Alt-Chair be appointed by Danny
until a new election for a new Alt-Chair can be set up...

[email-masked] wrote:

> Dear members,
>
> We have received the following query from the Names Council:
>
> Danny,
> following the resignation of the alt chair, what action do you propose
> taking? Will you be holding new elections or looking at the previous election
> for the next person on the list?
>
> Philip Sheppard
> NC Chair
>
> As the General Assembly's rules do not offer sufficient guidance in this
> area, it is appropriate that the membership discuss this matter.  In essence,
> do we promote Eric Dierker to the position of Alt. Chair, or do we convene
> new elections?  Is there justification for the Chair to appoint a temporary
> Alt. Chair until the elections are held (if we decide that elections are
> warranted?)  Let me know your thoughts so that we can move forward
> accordingly.  Thank you.
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:06:08 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Task Force appointees

Danny and all assembly members,

  Thank you for passing this on to the GA.  However I would disagree
that these positions should be appointed.  Rather I believe that the current
rules call for these positions to be elected ones.

[email-masked] wrote:

> The General Assembly needs to provide a representative to the NC Structure
> Task Force.  As this particular TF has already convened, it is appropriate,
> in this instance, for the Chair to appoint a representative (as an election
> process can take several weeks to complete and there is an immediate need for
> our participation in this particular TF).  Having reviewed the names of those
> that have declared their interest, I have decided to appoint David Farrar to
> be our representative.
>
> I would ask David to chair a committee tasked with developing the GA's
> position on ICANN's future structure, and to seek the counsel of those other
> members that have declared an interest in this area.
>
> The Names Council has also established a Task Force to attend to the issue of
> intra-registrar transfers.  Although we have not yet been asked to provide a
> representative (probably an oversight), I am reasonably confident that such
> an invitation will be forthcoming as this matter was brought to the attention
> of the Council by the GA.
>
> As this issue must also be dealt with in an expeditious manner, I also
> consider it appropriate to appoint a representative to facilitate the rapid
> resolution of outstanding issues.  For this Task Force we will need the
> benefit of a representative with a passionate interest in the subject who has
> demonstrated a commitment to registrant rights.    Accordingly,  I am asking
> William Walsh to accept this responsibility, and to similarly chair a
> committee that will discuss GA concerns relative to the transfers issue.
>
> I would ask both David and William to confirm their appointments.
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:20:01 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: Fwd: Greetings

To all.
Malele Dodia that Danny introduced to us reports a real problem from his 
place. Cost to access the Internet is US$ .20 in his place and may reach 
US$ 1.00 ...a minute down the country.
I am not good at Mail solutions, but there are mail genius/wizards on this 
ML. Would some one be able to propose an help? It could be a mail service 
which would channel in/out mails to a local user system in compressed  ftp? 
Would any one knows about a standard solution or a private service?
Jefsey

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:37:00 -0700
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Re: Fwd: Greetings

In his case, either a FidoNet or UUCP solution is most optimal.

At those sorts of bandwidth costs. Highest bit-time-density is required and
at maximal efficiency. Store-and-forward uucp batch, like we did in the old
days (when the telcos had us by the short-hairs [was that really less than
10 years ago?]), would do the job quite nicely. It can be done on a single
Linux server. That's what mail spools were originally designed for. If Linux
appears too daunting, PCDOS can do FidoNet on less than a pair of floppies.
However, you really don't save much on the tinker-factor. In both cases, you
need access to a host that can get to the Internet. Perhaps that Internet
cafe would provide a dial port for part-time use?

BTW, this precludes web-based mail in a big way. You can't surf the web with
such a system, even with squid. But, your costs would be down in the
afforability range.

|> From: Jefsey Morfin [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:20 AM
|> 
|> To all.
|> Malele Dodia that Danny introduced to us reports a real 
|> problem from his 
|> place. Cost to access the Internet is US$ .20 in his place 
|> and may reach 
|> US$ 1.00 ...a minute down the country.
|> I am not good at Mail solutions, but there are mail 
|> genius/wizards on this 
|> ML. Would some one be able to propose an help? It could be a 
|> mail service 
|> which would channel in/out mails to a local user system in 
|> compressed  ftp? 
|> Would any one knows about a standard solution or a private service?
|> Jefsey

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:10:55 -0400
From: "Peter de Blanc" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Task Force appointees

For once, I agree with Jeff.

At lease get some volunteers who know they have the time to commit to
this exercise, and get them "confirmed" or "endorsed" by a substantial
number of those active on the GA list

Peter de Blanc

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Williams
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:06 PM
To: [email-masked]
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Subject: Re: [ga] Task Force appointees

Danny and all assembly members,

  Thank you for passing this on to the GA.  However I would disagree
that these positions should be appointed.  Rather I believe that the
current rules call for these positions to be elected ones.

[email-masked] wrote:

> The General Assembly needs to provide a representative to the NC 
> Structure Task Force.  As this particular TF has already convened, it 
> is appropriate, in this instance, for the Chair to appoint a 
> representative (as an election process can take several weeks to 
> complete and there is an immediate need for our participation in this 
> particular TF).  Having reviewed the names of those that have declared

> their interest, I have decided to appoint David Farrar to be our 
> representative.
>
> I would ask David to chair a committee tasked with developing the GA's

> position on ICANN's future structure, and to seek the counsel of those

> other members that have declared an interest in this area.
>
> The Names Council has also established a Task Force to attend to the 
> issue of intra-registrar transfers.  Although we have not yet been 
> asked to provide a representative (probably an oversight), I am 
> reasonably confident that such an invitation will be forthcoming as 
> this matter was brought to the attention of the Council by the GA.
>
> As this issue must also be dealt with in an expeditious manner, I also

> consider it appropriate to appoint a representative to facilitate the 
> rapid resolution of outstanding issues.  For this Task Force we will 
> need the benefit of a representative with a passionate interest in the
subject who has
> demonstrated a commitment to registrant rights.    Accordingly,  I am
asking
> William Walsh to accept this responsibility, and to similarly chair a 
> committee that will discuss GA concerns relative to the transfers 
> issue.
>
> I would ask both David and William to confirm their appointments.
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:18:47 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Task Force appointees

As much as I care about this issue, and would really like to be
involved, I am currently under several deadlines I am under for
projects I am contracted to develop, and I cannot give this the time
it deserves, or that the GA deserves to have spent on it.

I wouldn't accept this position without being able to commit to being
able to do what the position entails. I wish our officials in
the GA had taken the same care before their appointments.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:18:25 -0700
From: "Tim Langdell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

I would suggest setting up an election for a new Alt Chair, with Danny being
free to appoint an interim replacement if he feels a strong need to have an
Alt Chair in the meantime.

Tim

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From: "David Farrar" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Alt.Chair Replacement

> > As the General Assembly's rules do not offer sufficient guidance in this
> > area, it is appropriate that the membership discuss this matter.  In
essence,
> > do we promote Eric Dierker to the position of Alt. Chair, or do we
convene
> > new elections?  Is there justification for the Chair to appoint a
temporary
> > Alt. Chair until the elections are held (if we decide that elections are
> > warranted?)  Let me know your thoughts so that we can move forward
> > accordingly.  Thank you.
>
> I've never been a fan of just taking the closest runner-up as the dynamics
of
> who stood and did not stand were influenced by the other candidates.
>
> When does the term of the Chair and Alt end?  If it is within three months
I
> would say we can survive without one.
>
> I have no problem with the Chair appointing a replacement Alt Chair (like
with
> US politics) as I do beleive compatibility is important.
>
> DPF
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:32:59 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Task Force appointees

Monday, Monday, October 15, 2001, 8:25:15 PM, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
> strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. 
> The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face 
> is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly;

If only our Chair would strive to do something besides advance his own
agendas.

Instead he fails to do anything that he was put in that position to do
for the GA, doing instead for himself.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:42:49 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Re:  Task Force appointees

Dear Peter,

On occasion, it is necessary to move quickly on some matters.  In the case of 
your particular constituency, the name of Peter Dengate-Thrush was forwarded 
to the Council as the representative to the NC structure Task Force within 
days of the TF being formed.  I doubt that your constituency either convened 
an election process or had Peter confirmed or endorsed for this Task Force by 
a substantial number of those active on the ccTLD list within the course of 
just a few days.  

I have full faith in the ability of these members to properly represent the 
GA in an NC Task Force (to the same degree that you and Elisabeth have 
confidence in Peter).   Both individuals (if they accept) will be chairs of 
committees in which the views of the Assembly will come to be ascertained.  
As both are responsible and can articulate positions well, there is no need 
to further delay the GA's entry into these Task Forces.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:15:11 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  Task Force appointees

Monday, Monday, October 15, 2001, 5:42:49 PM, [email-masked] wrote:

> Dear Peter,

> On occasion, it is necessary to move quickly on some matters

One should also note, that previous elections for those positions were
a courtesy extended by Danny, time permitting.  Our rules don't
require those positions to be elected, in fact there are no rules
covering those positions.

While I decline the request, Danny is doing his job on this issue by
appointing people to fill those positions.

I wish he gave the same care to other aspects of the chairmanship.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:20:20 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Task Force appointees

Peter and all assembly members,

  Thank you Peter!  You nicely expressed my sentiments.  However
I do believe that you and I have agreed on several other issues.  >:)

Peter de Blanc wrote:

> For once, I agree with Jeff.
>
> At lease get some volunteers who know they have the time to commit to
> this exercise, and get them "confirmed" or "endorsed" by a substantial
> number of those active on the GA list
>
> Peter de Blanc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Williams
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:06 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [ga] Task Force appointees
>
> Danny and all assembly members,
>
>   Thank you for passing this on to the GA.  However I would disagree
> that these positions should be appointed.  Rather I believe that the
> current rules call for these positions to be elected ones.
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > The General Assembly needs to provide a representative to the NC
> > Structure Task Force.  As this particular TF has already convened, it
> > is appropriate, in this instance, for the Chair to appoint a
> > representative (as an election process can take several weeks to
> > complete and there is an immediate need for our participation in this
> > particular TF).  Having reviewed the names of those that have declared
>
> > their interest, I have decided to appoint David Farrar to be our
> > representative.
> >
> > I would ask David to chair a committee tasked with developing the GA's
>
> > position on ICANN's future structure, and to seek the counsel of those
>
> > other members that have declared an interest in this area.
> >
> > The Names Council has also established a Task Force to attend to the
> > issue of intra-registrar transfers.  Although we have not yet been
> > asked to provide a representative (probably an oversight), I am
> > reasonably confident that such an invitation will be forthcoming as
> > this matter was brought to the attention of the Council by the GA.
> >
> > As this issue must also be dealt with in an expeditious manner, I also
>
> > consider it appropriate to appoint a representative to facilitate the
> > rapid resolution of outstanding issues.  For this Task Force we will
> > need the benefit of a representative with a passionate interest in the
> subject who has
> > demonstrated a commitment to registrant rights.    Accordingly,  I am
> asking
> > William Walsh to accept this responsibility, and to similarly chair a
> > committee that will discuss GA concerns relative to the transfers
> > issue.
> >
> > I would ask both David and William to confirm their appointments.
> >
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:26:37 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Task Force appointees

WXW and all assembly members,

  Uh huh!  ????  I am having a bit of trouble buying this...
Is anyone else??

William X Walsh wrote:

> As much as I care about this issue, and would really like to be
> involved, I am currently under several deadlines I am under for
> projects I am contracted to develop, and I cannot give this the time
> it deserves, or that the GA deserves to have spent on it.
>
> I wouldn't accept this position without being able to commit to being
> able to do what the position entails. I wish our officials in
> the GA had taken the same care before their appointments.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:40:19 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Task Force appointees

WXW and all assembly members,

William X Walsh wrote:

> Monday, Monday, October 15, 2001, 8:25:15 PM, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
>
> > "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
> > strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
> > The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face
> > is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly;
>
> If only our Chair would strive to do something besides advance his own
> agendas.

  For the most part, and especially of late, Danny has been pushing as
chair, the interests expressly stated by the GA members.  Therefore
this personal attack on Danny seem not only inappropriate, but unfounded
by in large.  I may disagree with some of the most recent process methods
that Danny has proposed (TF Appointees process in particular), but
the fact that such a Task Force is needed or desired in really not in
question.  Ergo, the agenda to which you speak, WXW is not Danny's,
but is the GA memberships.

  Now all this said, I would ask you to kindly apologize to Danny publicly
and retract this statement/comment as it is terribly unfounded.

>
>
> Instead he fails to do anything that he was put in that position to do
> for the GA, doing instead for himself.

  See my above comments to this unfounded comment/statement
as well.

>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:45:15 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  Task Force appointees

Danny and all assembly members,

  Again respectfully Danny I disagree with the gist of you comments/thoughts
below.

  It is necessary and possible to do a quick nomination period and
ballot for the GA to elect whom they believe would best represent them
in these Task Forces.  It would also be a very good idea to have
the ML's for these TF's to be open to any and all stakeholders or
interested parties to participate in equally.

  Thank you for your interest and cooperation in advance, Danny.

[email-masked] wrote:

> Dear Peter,
>
> On occasion, it is necessary to move quickly on some matters.  In the case of
> your particular constituency, the name of Peter Dengate-Thrush was forwarded
> to the Council as the representative to the NC structure Task Force within
> days of the TF being formed.  I doubt that your constituency either convened
> an election process or had Peter confirmed or endorsed for this Task Force by
> a substantial number of those active on the ccTLD list within the course of
> just a few days.
>
> I have full faith in the ability of these members to properly represent the
> GA in an NC Task Force (to the same degree that you and Elisabeth have
> confidence in Peter).   Both individuals (if they accept) will be chairs of
> committees in which the views of the Assembly will come to be ascertained.
> As both are responsible and can articulate positions well, there is no need
> to further delay the GA's entry into these Task Forces.
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:24:18 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  Task Force appointees

If for the TFs a GA committee is established and uses one of the
sublists to
conduct it's  business using the Alt Chair as facilitator and list chair
of the
committees required to summarize and report to the GA, much work could
be
accomplished and true open and transparent input from the GA implemented
in short
order.  We could even consider the designated delegates to be interim
until a
committee determines the chair and therefor delegate.

This way Our chair could just designate a list and say William is
interim delegate
and chair until such time as the newly formed committee changes that. 
The best
practices give us a great guide and as with most committees those
willing and able
to contribute and truly interested end up doing the best job, while
through
transparency are held accountable to bottoms up.

Also in this regard we could get participation from those interested but
to busy
elsewhere to take on the whole task.  Also by sub delegating some work
our delegate
would be better armed and more effective.

Just some thoughts from a lowly dotcommnoner.

Organization that splinters is bad, that which creates ease is good.

Sincerely,
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Danny and all assembly members,
>
>   Again respectfully Danny I disagree with the gist of you comments/thoughts
> below.
>
>   It is necessary and possible to do a quick nomination period and
> ballot for the GA to elect whom they believe would best represent them
> in these Task Forces.  It would also be a very good idea to have
> the ML's for these TF's to be open to any and all stakeholders or
> interested parties to participate in equally.
>
>   Thank you for your interest and cooperation in advance, Danny.
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > Dear Peter,
> >
> > On occasion, it is necessary to move quickly on some matters.  In the case of
> > your particular constituency, the name of Peter Dengate-Thrush was forwarded
> > to the Council as the representative to the NC structure Task Force within
> > days of the TF being formed.  I doubt that your constituency either convened
> > an election process or had Peter confirmed or endorsed for this Task Force by
> > a substantial number of those active on the ccTLD list within the course of
> > just a few days.
> >
> > I have full faith in the ability of these members to properly represent the
> > GA in an NC Task Force (to the same degree that you and Elisabeth have
> > confidence in Peter).   Both individuals (if they accept) will be chairs of
> > committees in which the views of the Assembly will come to be ascertained.
> > As both are responsible and can articulate positions well, there is no need
> > to further delay the GA's entry into these Task Forces.
> >
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