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GA-DIGEST           Tuesday, October 9 2001           Volume 01 : Number 782

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:23:02 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Individuals

Eric and all assembly members,

Eric Dierker wrote:

>    "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing,"
>  Sir Edmund Burke.

  Indeed true.

>
>
> Silence is Golden except when it is not.
>
> Individual users have no voice in ICANN and this is a very bad thing.
> There needs to be an Individual Users Constituency within the structure
> of ICANN.  The IUC can obtain charitable donations in order to fund
> itself.  The concept of an IUC has the written backing of the DoC.  No
> large company has ever opposed such an idea for it would be consumer
> suicide.

  Agreed.  And this is what the At-Large is supposed to be.  Yet
the ALSC and the ICANN BOD and staff that commissioned it
would think and do otherwise.  I await the corps.  There will likely
be no invite to the funeral.

>
>
> May we all meditate and give our heartfelt prayers in solace for all
> those who are suffering the tragedies of state and non state sanctioned
> violence.  May the good truly prevail and the wicked be banished.

  "The wicked are often warring sheep's clothing".  Chester "Chesty" Puller

Lt. General USMC.

>
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 23:25:48 -0700
From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] cenam fortunae

There is a veritable orgiastic feeding frenzy on .info going 
on!  I am amazed at some of the things that have been 
registered.  What a cash cow this is turning out to be.  In 
a couple weeks its going to be Neulevel and Melbourne
IT.

All this money... and no conferred rights OR say in the 
policy process.  WHAT IS A DOMAIN NAME?

Sincerely,

Sotiris Sotiropoulos
Hermes Network Inc.

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 23:27:37 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Recall of GA Chair

on 10/4/01 2:49 PM, Kent Crispin at [email-masked] wrote:

> Despite the appearances, IN FACT the GA is an unaccountable fluid group
> of email identities, not a body of people.  The NC, on the other hand,
> is composed of real people that we know.

How very Extremist of you. One cannot dismiss the value of every member of
the human race on the basis that one does not know them personally.

> 
> Consequently, IN FACT votes in the NC are open and transparent in a way
> that votes in the GA simply cannot match, and I would really much rather
> have there be people doing votes, people we can accost at meetings and
> yell at, instead of email addresses.

Please be prepared to be yelled at extremely loudly at all future meetings.

Regards,
Joanna

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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 23:35:27 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: 911 (was Re: [ga] Immediate Action (Was Re: Recall of GA Chair)

on 10/4/01 8:21 PM, Sotiris Sotiropoulos at [email-masked] wrote:

> As we sit here contemplating the removal of the Chair, there is currently a
> new gTLD introduction going on.  The .info irregularities which I raised are
> still... well, irregular.  The very idea that this sort of stuff is going on
> should be an important signal about what has happened since the Intellectual
> Property interests took control of domain policy for the WWW.  It's truly a
> mess.  Thanks for nihil ladies and gents.  I am considering the likelihood of
> some pretty nasty legal scenarios.  [But hey, they're lawyers right?  what
> else could they want?}
> 
> Question:  Why is it that the small registrars (dotster, gandi etc.,) are not
> currently doing real-time registrations,  but the big boys (verisign and
> register.com) are able to do so?
> 
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> Hermes Network Inc.

And to add to Dotster complaints, why did I receive email confirmation that
my business domain name had been successfully registered and my credit card
debited, only to receive a retraction later for undisclosed reasons?

Regards,
Joanna

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:30:27 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] cenam fortunae

Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:25:48 PM, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> There is a veritable orgiastic feeding frenzy on .info going 
> on!  I am amazed at some of the things that have been 
> registered.  What a cash cow this is turning out to be.  In 
> a couple weeks its going to be Neulevel and Melbourne
> IT.

> All this money... and no conferred rights OR say in the 
> policy process.  WHAT IS A DOMAIN NAME?

Yeah, you know, customers to restaurants and shoe stores should have
say in the policies of those businesses too, in proportion with the
amount of merchandise they purchase.

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 01:32:54 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] NC agenda

on 10/5/01 12:13 PM, Jefsey Morfin at [email-masked] wrote:

> The Chair is to be a catalyst. There are more active than others. I must
> say that when you have no tool as Danny has not (not site, no boot, no
> consensus building tool), you have to use your voice. Well, Danny does it
> well. But I would have preferred we got or build he tools.
> 
> Jefsey

Jefsey,

It is not possible to build consensus in a tyranny. The GA's only weapon
against tyranny is to stand united and state unequivocally that the NC is
denying the fundamental human rights of individuals and others through its
continuous refusal to make appropriate recommendations to the Board, and it
is each and every member's responsibility to expel those who are responsible
from the organisation. There are enough of us here to do it.

Regards,
Joanna 

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 01:44:55 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ALSC-Forum] QUI TAM

Please add my name to the list of supporters for this petition.

Regards,
Joanna Lane
EU citizen residing in the US

on 10/9/01 12:51 AM, Bruce Young at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> Stephen wrote:
> 
>> For the record, I would be willing to sign an Amicus Curiae or whatever
>> if a suit ever came about along these lines... not as a lawyer, just a
>> "guy on the street."
> 
> So would I!  Any lawyers out there interested in some pro bono work?!
> 
> 
> Bruce Young
> Client Engineering
> Lockheed Martin Global Telecommunications
> Phone: 503.466.6571
> Fax: 503.466.6775
> E-mail:  [email-masked]
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked]
> [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Stephen Waters
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:40 AM
> To: Eric Dierker
> Cc: Donald Simon; [email-masked]'; [email-masked]';
> [email-masked]'; [email-masked]'
> Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] QUI TAM
> 
> 
> For the record, I would be willing to sign an Amicus Curiae or whatever
> if a suit ever came about along these lines... not as a lawyer, just a
> "guy on the street."
> -s
> 
> On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 23:15, Eric Dierker wrote:
>> 
>> I clipped the tail off this comet but it is easily referred to;
>> 
>> Some of us can only look at the record.  Some of us can only trust, when
>> there
>> is some dispute, the written words agreed to by the parties involved.
>> Mr.
>> Roberts reminds me of WC Fields when he used to say "who you gonna
>> believe me -
>> or your eyes?".  Some of us live by the rules of a civilized society.
>> {it is
>> fair that we argue what this means regarding strict voting rights and
>> freedom of
>> speech and privacy} However no one doubts that matters such as lying,
>> terrorism
>> and breaking your promise intentionally without cause are wrong. (I
>> promise to
>> repay a debt and you give me money based upon that promise and I have
>> the money
>> but refuse to repay you and that is wrong)
>> 
>> ICANN promised to act a certain way and in reliance upon this promise
>> were
>> awarded the contract with DoC and all its attending goodness.  They have
>> the
>> ability but refuse to conform to their promise.  That sucks and the
>> perpetrators
>> of such heinous dishonesty should be brought to terms.
>> 
>> I have played a little research and found that John Browns Ferry brought
>> about a
>> great law called a QUI TAM and that Abe Lincoln signed it and brought
>> down one
>> of the great terrorist traitors of our civil war.  It is kind of fun
>> with a
>> ninety day filed in camera under seal thing while the feds look at
>> whether or
>> not they want to handle it with subrosa investigation.  But all in all
>> it allows
>> us in the GA to sue ICANN for breaching the agreement with and stealing
>> from the
>> DoC.  It would be fun to see if a non-citizen can join in the suit.
>> 
>> Could one of you sharp Lawyer dudettes or dudes look into it and let us
>> know.  I
>> believe all fondly elected board members would be liable for their
>> salary and it
>> appears that Jones and Day would owe all their fees back, of course we
>> would
>> only get a percentage of the amounts recovered and a fully elected board
>> by a
>> true electorate.  My research shows that these could and would be
>> handled on a
>> contingency by the lawyers.
>> 
>> Food for thought, and I hereby give my signature to the class action,
>> have at it
>> Law Professors!
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> Donald Simon wrote:
>> 
>>> I am writing as a member of the NAIS team (ANGO and Academic ICANN
> Study”)
>>> in response to the lengthy analysis of our study that Joe Sims posted
> during
>>> the recent ICANN meeting in Montevideo.
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:18:08 -0700 
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] cenam fortunae

|> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 10:30 PM
|> 
|> Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:25:48 PM, Sotiris 
|> Sotiropoulos wrote:
|> 
|> > There is a veritable orgiastic feeding frenzy on .info going 
|> > on!  I am amazed at some of the things that have been 
|> > registered.  What a cash cow this is turning out to be.  In 
|> > a couple weeks its going to be Neulevel and Melbourne
|> > IT.
|> 
|> > All this money... and no conferred rights OR say in the 
|> > policy process.  WHAT IS A DOMAIN NAME?
|> 
|> Yeah, you know, customers to restaurants and shoe stores should have
|> say in the policies of those businesses too, in proportion with the
|> amount of merchandise they purchase.

Actually, they do. It's called marketing demographics. Just where do you
think all that demographic data comes from and what it's purpose is? It's a
company's best effort to find out what consumers really want. It This may be
a lot more indirect than many have in mind, but most large chains are
absolutely ruled by demographics data. McDonald's restaurants will not place
a store without a favorable ruling regarding the placement. However, the
systems being put into place don't give the consumer a meaningful choice and
there is no way to disolve a bad registry. But that doesn't matter because
ICANN set much of te policies via contract, which no one has a say in, and
consumers don't have many other places to go from there either.

Sorry to mix irony and sarcasm here, you figure out which is which, if any,
there will be a quiz.
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:27:36 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] cenam fortunae

Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:18:08 PM, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> But that doesn't matter because
> ICANN set much of te policies via contract, which no one has a say in, and
> consumers don't have many other places to go from there either.

Sure they do, they have those wonderful alt.root systems you people
are always saying are so superior.

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:06:57 -0700 
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [ga] cenam fortunae

|> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:28 AM
|> 
|> Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:18:08 PM, Roeland Meyer wrote:
|> > But that doesn't matter because
|> > ICANN set much of the policies via contract, which no one 
|> has a say in, and
|> > consumers don't have many other places to go from there either.
|> 
|> Sure they do, they have those wonderful alt.root systems you people
|> are always saying are so superior.

Bzzzt, you failed!
I said "many" not "any" and your sarcasm detector ... she'sa broke.
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:22:49 +0200
From: "DNSO Secretariat" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] NC telecon 11 Oct 2001 agenda dial in numbers

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:25:03 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[4]: [ga] cenam fortunae

Tuesday, Tuesday, October 09, 2001, 1:06:57 AM, Roeland Meyer wrote:

|>> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:28 AM
|>> 
|>> Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:18:08 PM, Roeland Meyer wrote:
|>> > But that doesn't matter because
|>> > ICANN set much of the policies via contract, which no one 
|>> has a say in, and
|>> > consumers don't have many other places to go from there either.
|>> 
|>> Sure they do, they have those wonderful alt.root systems you people
|>> are always saying are so superior.

> Bzzzt, you failed!
> I said "many" not "any" and your sarcasm detector ... she'sa broke.

Hmm, how are you defining many?  Last time I checked there were
several hundred top level domains in the various alt.root systems (I
would say "Several hundred registries" but my definition of registry
is set a bit higher than these would qualify for).

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:09:52 -0700 
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Re[4]: [ga] cenam fortunae

|> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 1:25 AM
|> 
|> Tuesday, Tuesday, October 09, 2001, 1:06:57 AM, Roeland Meyer wrote:
|> 
|> |>> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> |>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:28 AM
|> |>> 
|> |>> Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:18:08 PM, Roeland 
|> Meyer wrote:
|> |>> > But that doesn't matter because
|> |>> > ICANN set much of the policies via contract, which no one 
|> |>> has a say in, and
|> |>> > consumers don't have many other places to go from there either.
|> |>> 
|> |>> Sure they do, they have those wonderful alt.root systems 
|> you people
|> |>> are always saying are so superior.
|> 
|> > Bzzzt, you failed!
|> > I said "many" not "any" and your sarcasm detector ... she'sa broke.
|> 
|> Hmm, how are you defining many?  Last time I checked there were
|> several hundred top level domains in the various alt.root systems (I
|> would say "Several hundred registries" but my definition of registry
|> is set a bit higher than these would qualify for).

If they all have the same policy-set then, to the consumer, it doesn't
matter how many there are. I think that you know my standards by now
William. I published them in Oct98. None of the current "Registries" meet
them and with the sole exception of Verisign/NSI, none of them have proven
to have the capability to meet those standards. That goes for the inclusive
roots as well. None of them are willing/able to deliver the service level
required. ICANN is unwilling to raise the bar as well.

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:28:09 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[6]: [ga] cenam fortunae

Tuesday, Tuesday, October 09, 2001, 2:09:52 AM, Roeland Meyer wrote:

> If they all have the same policy-set then, to the consumer, it doesn't
> matter how many there are. I think that you know my standards by now

Yes, and you know I consider them excessive and unnecessary, and that
they would unnecessarily complicate the process from registry all the
way down to the consumer level.

Just because a maximum level of security protection is possible
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:43:05 -0700 
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Re[4]: [ga] cenam fortunae

errata: s/Oct98/Oct99/

|> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 1:25 AM
|> 
|> Tuesday, Tuesday, October 09, 2001, 1:06:57 AM, Roeland Meyer wrote:
|> 
|> |>> From: William X Walsh [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> |>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:28 AM
|> |>> 
|> |>> Monday, Monday, October 08, 2001, 11:18:08 PM, Roeland 
|> Meyer wrote:
|> |>> > But that doesn't matter because
|> |>> > ICANN set much of the policies via contract, which no one 
|> |>> has a say in, and
|> |>> > consumers don't have many other places to go from there either.
|> |>> 
|> |>> Sure they do, they have those wonderful alt.root systems 
|> you people
|> |>> are always saying are so superior.
|> 
|> > Bzzzt, you failed!
|> > I said "many" not "any" and your sarcasm detector ... she'sa broke.
|> 
|> Hmm, how are you defining many?  Last time I checked there were
|> several hundred top level domains in the various alt.root systems (I
|> would say "Several hundred registries" but my definition of registry
|> is set a bit higher than these would qualify for).

If they all have the same policy-set then, to the consumer, it doesn't
matter how many there are. I think that you know my standards by now
William. I published them in Oct98. None of the current "Registries" meet
them and with the sole exception of Verisign/NSI, none of them have proven
to have the capability to meet those standards. That goes for the inclusive
roots as well. None of them are willing/able to deliver the service level
required. ICANN is unwilling to raise the bar as well.

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 03:57:25 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [ALSC-Forum] QUI TAM

Wow I have never heard of a Qui Tam class action but why not.

To speak for the people.

Historically it is important to memorialize that this type of suit was
established during the USA's civil war.  A time of constitutional suspension.
A call to harms to rid the world of a scourge.  The betterment of all kind
suffered mightely but was victorious.

Now we are called upon to indulge in litigation to stop the travesty which
Sotiris has laid before us and what Danny and Joanna have championed against.

So now it would seem necessary to form a group to manage this situation.  What
we need is very small contributions from us several.  Let us ponder and decide
the best course and cause of action.  This can be done.  Forces of truth will
bring about change, but let us not look on tomorrow but further down the road.

I am informed and believe that RICO and Qui Tam would work well together,
perhaps not.  Tying together Jones Day and Verisign is very interesting.  The
DoC connection is not lost if SS pushes through that a domain name is a
property right - thinking taking without due process. (remember legal
definitions of technical matters are determined by experts not law)

Let us all be thankful that we can engage in such matters when others struggle
only for life.

Sincerely,
Eric

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Please add my name to the list of supporters for this petition.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna Lane
> EU citizen residing in the US
>
> on 10/9/01 12:51 AM, Bruce Young at [email-masked] wrote:
>
> >
> > Stephen wrote:
> >
> >> For the record, I would be willing to sign an Amicus Curiae or whatever
> >> if a suit ever came about along these lines... not as a lawyer, just a
> >> "guy on the street."
> >
> > So would I!  Any lawyers out there interested in some pro bono work?!
> >
> >
> > Bruce Young
> > Client Engineering
> > Lockheed Martin Global Telecommunications
> > Phone: 503.466.6571
> > Fax: 503.466.6775
> > E-mail:  [email-masked]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email-masked]
> > [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Stephen Waters
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:40 AM
> > To: Eric Dierker
> > Cc: Donald Simon; [email-masked]'; [email-masked]';
> > [email-masked]'; [email-masked]'
> > Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] QUI TAM
> >
> >
> > For the record, I would be willing to sign an Amicus Curiae or whatever
> > if a suit ever came about along these lines... not as a lawyer, just a
> > "guy on the street."
> > -s
> >
> > On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 23:15, Eric Dierker wrote:
> >>
> >> I clipped the tail off this comet but it is easily referred to;
> >>
> >> Some of us can only look at the record.  Some of us can only trust, when
> >> there
> >> is some dispute, the written words agreed to by the parties involved.
> >> Mr.
> >> Roberts reminds me of WC Fields when he used to say "who you gonna
> >> believe me -
> >> or your eyes?".  Some of us live by the rules of a civilized society.
> >> {it is
> >> fair that we argue what this means regarding strict voting rights and
> >> freedom of
> >> speech and privacy} However no one doubts that matters such as lying,
> >> terrorism
> >> and breaking your promise intentionally without cause are wrong. (I
> >> promise to
> >> repay a debt and you give me money based upon that promise and I have
> >> the money
> >> but refuse to repay you and that is wrong)
> >>
> >> ICANN promised to act a certain way and in reliance upon this promise
> >> were
> >> awarded the contract with DoC and all its attending goodness.  They have
> >> the
> >> ability but refuse to conform to their promise.  That sucks and the
> >> perpetrators
> >> of such heinous dishonesty should be brought to terms.
> >>
> >> I have played a little research and found that John Browns Ferry brought
> >> about a
> >> great law called a QUI TAM and that Abe Lincoln signed it and brought
> >> down one
> >> of the great terrorist traitors of our civil war.  It is kind of fun
> >> with a
> >> ninety day filed in camera under seal thing while the feds look at
> >> whether or
> >> not they want to handle it with subrosa investigation.  But all in all
> >> it allows
> >> us in the GA to sue ICANN for breaching the agreement with and stealing
> >> from the
> >> DoC.  It would be fun to see if a non-citizen can join in the suit.
> >>
> >> Could one of you sharp Lawyer dudettes or dudes look into it and let us
> >> know.  I
> >> believe all fondly elected board members would be liable for their
> >> salary and it
> >> appears that Jones and Day would owe all their fees back, of course we
> >> would
> >> only get a percentage of the amounts recovered and a fully elected board
> >> by a
> >> true electorate.  My research shows that these could and would be
> >> handled on a
> >> contingency by the lawyers.
> >>
> >> Food for thought, and I hereby give my signature to the class action,
> >> have at it
> >> Law Professors!
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> Donald Simon wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am writing as a member of the NAIS team (ANGO and Academic ICANN
> > Study”)
> >>> in response to the lengthy analysis of our study that Joe Sims posted
> > during
> >>> the recent ICANN meeting in Montevideo.
> >
> >
>
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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:30:59 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] cenam fortunae

As you know, for months I asked the question to make sure it was something 
special. Eventually it was clear that a domain name is just the name of 
your Internet domain. But that "creep and greed" managed to confuse the things.

So a domain name is something free, which cannot be sold, like your shadow. 
A name is the only thing which comes free with existence. How much will you 
sell me "table" so I may make it used  instead of "chair"? Three years old 
kids understand this is inept, but our smart geniuses don't.

Look at the pay check of Jones Days if I hire them to sue every person 
using the word "table" once you sold it to me! Forget about Peru and its 
presidential NIC!

ARPA/NETS team has conceived the two most dramatic failures [at least by 
their size] in the networking area: the root server [a unique unnecessary 
process made mandatory to use the most distributed system ever] and the DN 
transfer [a crazy "cling-cling" machine for a clerical task].
Unfortunately both works a lot... for a time.

Jefsey

On 08:25 09/10/01, Sotiris Sotiropoulos said:
>There is a veritable orgiastic feeding frenzy on .info going on!  I am 
>amazed at some of the things that have been registered.  What a cash cow 
>this is turning out to be.  In a couple weeks its going to be Neulevel and 
>Melbourne
>IT.
>
>All this money... and no conferred rights OR say in the policy 
>process.  WHAT IS A DOMAIN NAME?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>Hermes Network Inc.
>
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:37:16 +0200
From: "DNSO Secretariat" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Brief notes on NC Active List and Usage Stats

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STATISTICS

The following is a summary of Active lists showing the amount of mails =
sent to each list from the date of opening to date. Cf.  =
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/ncarchives.html

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Two categories are mentioned:

1)     Names Council Task Forces and Committees =20

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-idn/Arc00/

NC IDN International Domain Names (open 14 July 2001) to date, 8 October =
2001 there are 12 mails.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-org/Arc00/ NC Dot Org (open 04 August =
2001) to date, 4 October 2001 there are 121 mails.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-udrp/Arc00/ NC UDRP Review and =
Evaluation (open 04 August 2001)  to date, 4 October there are 59 mails.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-review/Arc01/ NC Review (open 03 =
August 2001) to date, 9 October 2001 there are 20 mails.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/NC WhoIs (open 10 July =
2001) to date, 8 October 2001 there are 47 mails.

2)     Names Council Budget and Intake Permanent Committees

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-budget/Arc00/ DNSO Secretariat Budget =
committee (open July 2000) to date, 8 October there are 517 mails.

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-intake/Arc00/ NC Intake Committee =
(open July 2000) to date, 1 October 314 mails.

=20

A brief explanatory report follows on the Usage Statistics as have been =
posted on the website.=20

The Stats are compiled by Webalizer Version 2.01 for the period May 1999 =
to date.

Usage Statistics for www.dnso.org

=20

In summary:

     =20

A KByte (KB) indicates volume in general.  It shows the amount of data =
transferred between the server and the remote machine, based on the data =
found in the server log. From the beginning of the DNSO web site in May =
1999 there has been a steady increase in volume with peak periods =
October and December in 99 , July August and November in 2000 and very =
steep rises in July August and September 2001 the latter indicating a =
problem that can be attributed to errors caused by the virus that =
contaminated a lot of machines this year.  Being autoreproductive it =
saturated the network.=20

=20

Hits represent the total number of requests made to the server during =
the=20
given time period (month, day, hour etc..). There has been about a 7 =
fold increase in hits since the beginning period in May 1999.

Files represent the total number of hits (requests) that actually=20
resulted in something being sent back to the user. Not all hits will =
send=20
data, such as 404-Not Found requests and requests for pages that are =
already in the=20
browsers cache.  The number of files is roughly half of the number of =
hits with a steady increase from the beginning.  However July August and =
Sept 2001 indicate that there was a problem.

 By looking at the difference between hits and files, you can get a=20
rough indication of repeat visitors, as the greater the difference =
between the two, the more people are requesting pages they already have =
cached (have=20
viewed already).

Sites is the number of unique IP addresses/hostnames that made requests=20
to the server. Care should be taken when using this metric for anything
other than that. Many users can appear to come from a single site, and=20
they can also appear to come from many ip addresses so it should be used
simply as a rough guage as to the number of visitors to your server.

Visits occur when some remote site makes a request for a page on your=20
server for the first time. As long as the same site keeps making =
requests
within a given timeout period, they will all be considered part of the=20
same Visit. If the site makes a request to your server, and the length =
of time
since the last request is greater than the specified timeout period=20
(default is 30 minutes), a new Visit is started and counted, and the =
sequence
repeats. Since only pages will trigger a visit, remote sites that link=20
to graphic and other non- page URLs will not be counted in the visit =
totals,
reducing the number of false visits. In 2001 the number of visits rises =
steadily with peaks in July August most probably related to the virus, =
while during 2000 there seem to be peak periods in July, October, =
November and December and in 1999 in October and December.

Pages are those URLs that would be considered the actual page being=20
requested, and not all of the individual items that make it up (such as
 graphics and audio clips). Some people call this metric page or page =
impressions. Throughout the 3 year span nearly double the amount of =
pages compared to files have been consulted with a constant increase =
from the beginning. =20

Further information can be found at this url.

http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/webalizer_help.html=20

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</SPAN><A=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; =
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justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-idn/Arc00/"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB =

style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-idn/Arc00/</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p>=
</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">NC=20
IDN International Domain Names (open 14 July 2001) to date, 8 October =
2001 there=20
are 12 mails.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-org/Arc00/"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB =

style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-org/Arc00/</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPA=
N=20
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">=20
NC Dot Org (open 04 August 2001) to date, 4 October 2001 there are 121=20
mails.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-udrp/Arc00/"><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-udrp/Arc00/</SPAN></A></SPAN><SP=
AN=20
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">=20
NC UDRP Review and Evaluation (open 04 August 2001)<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>to date, 4 October there are =
59=20
mails.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-review/Arc01/"><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-review/Arc01/</SPAN></A></SPAN><=
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lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/NC">http://www.dnso=
.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/NC</A>=20
WhoIs (open 10 July 2001) to date, 8 October 2001 there are 47 mails.<BR =

style=3D"mso-special-character: line-break"><BR=20
style=3D"mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; =
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href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-budget/Arc00/"><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-budget/Arc00/</SPAN></A></SPAN><=
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DNSO Secretariat Budget committee (open July 2000) to date, 8 October =
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justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-intake/Arc00/"><SPAN =
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style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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NC Intake Committee (open July 2000) to date, 1 October 314=20
mails.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">A=20
brief explanatory report follows on the Usage Statistics as have been =
posted on=20
the website. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoBodyTextIndent><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>The Stats are compiled =
by Webalizer=20
Version 2.01 for the period May 1999 to date.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.dnso.org/webstats/index.html"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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</SPAN>It shows the amount of data transferred between the server and =
the remote=20
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of the=20
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steep rises in July August and September 2001 the latter indicating a =
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machines this year.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Being =

autoreproductive it saturated the network. <BR=20
style=3D"mso-special-character: line-break"><BR=20
style=3D"mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoBodyText><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB>Hits represent the total =
number of=20
requests made to the server during the <BR>given time period (month, =
day, hour=20
etc..). There has been about a 7 fold increase in hits since the =
beginning=20
period in May 1999.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Files=20
represent the total number of hits (requests) that actually <BR>resulted =
in=20
something being sent back to the user. Not all hits will send <BR>data, =
such as=20
404-Not Found requests and requests for pages that are already in the=20
<BR>browsers cache.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The =
number of=20
files is roughly half of the number of hits with a steady increase from =
the=20
beginning.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>However July =
August and=20
Sept 2001 indicate that there was a problem.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>By looking at the difference =
between hits=20
and files, you can get a <BR>rough indication of repeat visitors, as the =
greater=20
the difference between the two, the more people are requesting pages =
they=20
already have cached (have <BR>viewed already).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Sites=20
is the number of unique IP addresses/hostnames that made requests <BR>to =
the=20
server. Care should be taken when using this metric for =
anything<BR>other than=20
that. Many users can appear to come from a single site, and <BR>they can =
also=20
appear to come from many ip addresses so it should be used<BR>simply as =
a rough=20
guage as to the number of visitors to your server.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Visits=20
occur when some remote site makes a request for a page on your =
<BR>server for=20
the first time. As long as the same site keeps making requests<BR>within =
a given=20
timeout period, they will all be considered part of the <BR>same Visit. =
If the=20
site makes a request to your server, and the length of time<BR>since the =
last=20
request is greater than the specified timeout period <BR>(default is 30=20
minutes), a new Visit is started and counted, and the =
sequence<BR>repeats. Since=20
only pages will trigger a visit, remote sites that link <BR>to graphic =
and other=20
non- page URLs will not be counted in the visit totals,<BR>reducing the =
number=20
of false visits. In 2001 the number of visits rises steadily with peaks =
in July=20
August most probably related to the virus, while during 2000 there seem =
to be=20
peak periods in July, October, November and December and in 1999 in =
October and=20
December.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Pages=20
are those URLs that would be considered the actual page being =
<BR>requested, and=20
not all of the individual items that make it up (such =
as<BR>&nbsp;graphics and=20
audio clips). Some people call this metric page or page impressions. =
Throughout=20
the 3 year span nearly double the amount of pages compared to files have =
been=20
consulted with a constant increase from the beginning.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Further=20
information can be found at this url.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><A =

href=3D"http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/webalizer_help.html"><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB">http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/webalizer_help.html</SPAN></A></SP=
AN><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">DNSO=20
Secretariat<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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