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GA-DIGEST           Friday, October 5 2001           Volume 01 : Number 777

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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 02:12:19 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  NC Structure TF

Danny, Elisabeth and all assembly members,

  I would be interested as well in this task force.  I also hope that the
Forum will be open to all whom wish to participate in order to meet
a proper and appropriate decorum of openness and transparency.
Thank you!

[email-masked] wrote:

> Dear members,
>
> I have received the following note from the DNSO Secretariat.
>
> Dear Danny,
> Following the request from Philip Sheppard the [email-masked] list has been
> opened.
> Would please be so kind as to nominate a ga Representative to this task
> force.  Up to now the following people have been nominated.
>
> "Philip Sheppard" <[email-masked]>obs/ initial chair
> "Marilyn Cade" <[email-masked]> BC constit
> "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]> Registrars constit
> "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <[email-masked]> ccTld consit
> "Tony Holmes" <[email-masked]>ISP constit
> "Mark Bonahan" <[email-masked]> IP constit
> "David Johnson" <[email-masked]> gTLDs constit.
> The archives are in:
>     http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-str/Arc00/
>
> Look forward to hearing from you.
> DNSO Secretariat
> -------------------------
>
> So far only Joop Teernstra has indicated an interest in participating in this
> "Structure" Task Force... if others have an interest, please let me know.
> Terms of Reference are cited at:
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc06/msg00022.html
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:47:46 +0200 (MET DST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: INFO [Re: 911 (was Re: [ga] Immediate Action (Was Re: Recall of GA Chair)]

> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, at 17:21 [=GMT-0700], 
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> [...]
> > Question:  Why is it that the small 
> registrars (dotster, gandi etc.,) are not
> > currently doing real-time registrations,  
> but the big boys (verisign and
> > register.com) are able to do so?
> Not sure you are right. The only registrar of 
> the 4 I tried that gives
> me positive results is Enom. Not bigger than 
> the ones you mention. My
> guess is that it depends on
> 1. getting up the code (at least two 
> registrars do not even have
> running the code to change DNS for info names 
> registered during
> landrush...);

- --> I tried united-domains.de (EPAG) and namebargain.com (register.com). But the only one that worked was IDRegister.com. I registered domain names with IDRegister.com in real-time which I have pre-registered with united-domains!!!
So the "Land-rushers" are cheated again!!!

> 2. number of resllers (which is why 
> Tucows/OpenSRS fails  right now)
> My guess is: this is not the fault of all or 
> most registrars. So whose
> fault is it then? Was Afilias not a safe 
> choice for ICANN?
> Stability of the internet? Ha ha ha ha ha ha 
> ha ha ha ha. 
> Oklahoma. Those who did sneaky things were the 
> only people who
> understood.
> Ach.
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:36:10 +1200
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] NC agenda 

At 09:12 4/10/01 -0700, Patrick Greenwell wrote:

>Great, so does that mean if feel strongly about something such as the
>complete abandonment of the normal schedule in favor of ICANN holding a
>security workshop that I can look forward to it being put on the agenda
>too? A number of people seem to feel pretty strongly on that subject Phillip.

Not to mention the glacial progress of the Review Task Force and the 
addition of the Individuals' Constituency.
If strong feeling is all it needs to get on the NC agenda... then let me 
point again to the request of the NC to come up with a proposal only to 
ignore it when it is presented www.democracy.org.nz/iccharter.htm

Democratic institutions have rules exactly to prevent individuals with 
strong feelings to dominate the agenda.
Mr Chair, for the benefit of the NC's intake committee,  can you please 
organize a vote of support/non-support of this proposal?

- --Joop

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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:32:09 +0200 (CEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] .info irregularities

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, at 19:22 [=GMT-0700], Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> Dotster finally got around to billing us for our .info domain registration,
> which was added to our account.

Yes, but the change of nameservers, or rather the first setting of
them is impossible. Similarly with Enom. Do they think they only sell
to speculators who do not mind this much perhaps?

They have all had many months to get this right, I would think. Why
does so much not work again and again and again?

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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sanjeev Goyal <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud

Dear Fellow assembly members,

A great thing come to my knowledge that One of my friend file sunrise
challenge on domain Business.info which is register by Easyspace
limited.
As per Afilias policy if any sunrise period booked domain goes for
challenge then it will not resolve till the dispute is setteled.
Thats why one copy of challenge goes to registrar also, just to take
account of the situation.
But to my knowledge the said disputed domain Business.info is resolving
and it is redirected to some site through easyspace limited.

Is easyspace limited not know what to do in this situation?

Sanjeev Goyal.
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:43:52 +1000
From: "Dassa" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Recall of GA Chair

|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Peter de Blanc [mailto:[email-masked]]
|> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:12 AM
|> To: [email-masked]; ; [email-masked]
|> Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Recall of GA Chair
|>
|>
|> I am not imposing a majority. I am just saying (personally), as a NC
|> member, if there was a "ground swell" of consensus about a new GA chair,
|> I would be inclined to move to action on the NC.
|>
|> Certainly 1, or 2, or even 5 persons agreeing with WXW is not a "ground
|> swell", rough consensus, or anything like it.
|>
|> Peter de Blanc
<snip>
|> For the GA to do anything it needs an effective Chair.  That is one of
|> the issues and why the item is on the agenda one would assume.  It would
|> also be presumptive to impose a majority vote on such an issue in the
|> GA.

Please re-read my words above, I was not indicating you were imposing a
majority rule.  The operative words are "would" and "presumptive".  The NC
should be moved to action on any indication of discontent and
dissatisfaction.  The action would be qualified by the perceived need.  If
you wanted to use statistics, it would be easy to show this issue a major
topic and hence a matter that does need investigation.  Even 5 people over
the last few weeks expressing support would be high as the major posters
over the last few months have been very few.  From my own observation, the
numbers against have not been higher than the numbers suggesting it is an
issue worthy of consideration.

Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.

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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:06:13 +1000
From: "Dassa" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] NC agenda 

|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of
|> Joop Teernstra
|> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:36 PM
|> To: Patrick Greenwell
|> Cc: Philip Sheppard;
|> Subject: Re: [ga] NC agenda
|>
|> Democratic institutions have rules exactly to prevent individuals with
|> strong feelings to dominate the agenda.
|> Mr Chair, for the benefit of the NC's intake committee,  can you please
|> organize a vote of support/non-support of this proposal?

We need individuals with strong feelings and the ability to present them.
One of the reasons I'm not totally against Danny or yourself Joop.  The
difference is, I believe the individuals should gain the feelings from the
group and put them forward, not their own personal crusades.  I wish I could
put someone forward who I believe would be suitable to do this for the GA
but I can not think of anyone who would be acceptable.  I know a few people
who could do the job and do it well but the history they have behind them, I
feel would be too big a drawback and they would never be accepted, even if
they were willing which I doubt.

To be honest, I'm starting to feel the GA is doomed.

Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.

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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:44:33 -0400
From: "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud

hello Sanjeev

i believe that your statemeny regarding afilias registry  policy during with
regard to sunrise challenges  may not be correct.

the policy is located at:
http://www.afilias.info/faq/sunrise-challenge-policy.html

please look carefully at paragraph # 5

regards

ken stubbs

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sanjeev Goyal" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:29 AM
Subject: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud

> Dear Fellow assembly members,
>
> A great thing come to my knowledge that One of my friend file sunrise
> challenge on domain Business.info which is register by Easyspace
> limited.
> As per Afilias policy if any sunrise period booked domain goes for
> challenge then it will not resolve till the dispute is setteled.
> Thats why one copy of challenge goes to registrar also, just to take
> account of the situation.
> But to my knowledge the said disputed domain Business.info is resolving
> and it is redirected to some site through easyspace limited.
>
> Is easyspace limited not know what to do in this situation?
>
> Sanjeev Goyal.
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 07:04:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sanjeev Goyal <[email-masked]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud

Dear Ken Stubbs,

pls check on Afilias Site:

http://www.afilias.info/faq/sunrise.html

they have clearly mention there in FAQ that:

When can I start using a domain registered during the Sunrise Period?

Names registered during the Sunrise Period will become accessible
through Internet Web browsers beginning on September 19, 2001. Names
challenged according to Sunrise Challenge procedures may be put on hold
for dispute resolution. 

Sanjeev Goyal.
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- --- Ken Stubbs <[email-masked]> wrote:
> From: "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Sanjeev Goyal" <[email-masked]>,
> 	<[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:44:33 -0400
> 
> hello Sanjeev
> 
> i believe that your statemeny regarding afilias registry  policy
> during with
> regard to sunrise challenges  may not be correct.
> 
> the policy is located at:
> http://www.afilias.info/faq/sunrise-challenge-policy.html
> 
> please look carefully at paragraph # 5
> 
> regards
> 
> ken stubbs
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sanjeev Goyal" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:29 AM
> Subject: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud
> 
> 
> > Dear Fellow assembly members,
> >
> > A great thing come to my knowledge that One of my friend file
> sunrise
> > challenge on domain Business.info which is register by Easyspace
> > limited.
> > As per Afilias policy if any sunrise period booked domain goes for
> > challenge then it will not resolve till the dispute is setteled.
> > Thats why one copy of challenge goes to registrar also, just to
> take
> > account of the situation.
> > But to my knowledge the said disputed domain Business.info is
> resolving
> > and it is redirected to some site through easyspace limited.
> >
> > Is easyspace limited not know what to do in this situation?
> >
> > Sanjeev Goyal.
> > ==========
> >
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 16:33:01 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] NC agenda 

On 14:06 05/10/01, Dassa said:
>To be honest, I'm starting to feel the GA is doomed.

Dear Dassa,
We should accept that the GA is ... a GA, no more no less. A place for 
people to assemble and debate. For  ideas, critics, dumbness and innovation 
to meet. Actually each SO, each governance structure, each NIC should have 
a GA, and all the GA should form the @large college. This would be simple, 
efficient, open to all, representative, active and ... extremely cheap. And 
a simple and efficient outreach action for the governance.
Jefsey

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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:26:37 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ICP-4

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I do disagree with Stuart's approach of the next MdR meeting (I accept that 
there are certainly pressures). My main reason why is the poor security 
image it gives of the Internet, adding to the weakness ICANN represents as 
being unique in a totally distributed system.

Now things are committed, I would like to propose a positive way out 
everyone could agree upon.

Instead of an "Internet Security Instant Manager training", it would be to 
commonly prepare the ICP-4 "Internet Security" document through the launch 
of a clean shirt review everyone could share, including the public through 
a call to the press (so they would help rather than harass us).

1. the coming days could be dedicated to gather themes for a framework. I 
initiated a WG Security to present a BC document and started gathering 
points at icann-sme: I will publish these inputs to help GA commenting and 
adding to it, so it becomes a common effort that Staff could use.

2. the target would be that in coming to MdR everyone could have some 
elements to share from his  own sector. Not to be educated about something 
very simple but highly distributed no one other than us knows, but to share 
our know-how and suggestions in shaping the ICP-4 frame.

3. I am sure this approach will lead to a reconsideration of the ICANN 
structure. Security is an highly professional issue. The ICANN illness IMHO 
is amateurism. A common effort clearly focused towards a professional issue 
may only help us clarifying and probably speeding up the other pending issues.

My 3 euro cents.
Jefsey

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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:13:32 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] NC agenda

Dear Eric,
thanks. But a few remarks.

On 17:04 05/10/01, Eric Dierker said:
>I think that you are right on the money here Jefsey.  I suppose one could be a
>member of several NIC GAs.  However I think until we get more involvement we
>had better not diffuse this GA to quickly.  Even the seven sublists caused
>problems of dividing and diluting.

The point is not in diluting the GA. But in amalgamating the GAs of many 
structures in a single concept.  We have 900 people at DNSO/GA. Let assume 
each NIC has an average 200 new people GA. That IETF, ISOC, W3C, Members 
etc... are accepted as part of the GA, we will probably have 50.000 @large. 
These people would be known to each others, motivated and active, used to 
vote on issues together. All the year long.

This is the position of the IALNA.

>Our chairs job is not moderator or king it is to ensure we may speak and to
>ensure our voices are heard.  This Danny is doing, rather well.  He has reined
>in censorship and he is constantly badgering those in other places to hear the
>GA.
>
>An active Alt-chair would be helpful for organization sake, like trying to 
>find
>rough consensus.  But that is all right to, because no one on staff or the BoD
>can claim they did not hear what the GA said.

The Chair is to be a catalyst. There are more active than others. I must 
say that when you have no tool as Danny has not (not site, no boot, no 
consensus building tool), you have to use your voice. Well, Danny does it 
well. But I would have preferred we got or build he tools.

Jefsey

>Jefsey Morfin wrote:
> > On 14:06 05/10/01, Dassa said:
> > >To be honest, I'm starting to feel the GA is doomed.
> >
> > Dear Dassa,
> > We should accept that the GA is ... a GA, no more no less. A place for
> > people to assemble and debate. For  ideas, critics, dumbness and innovation
> > to meet. Actually each SO, each governance structure, each NIC should have
> > a GA, and all the GA should form the @large college. This would be simple,
> > efficient, open to all, representative, active and ... extremely cheap. And
> > a simple and efficient outreach action for the governance.
> > Jefsey
> >
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:25:03 -0700
From: Kent Crispin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  NC Structure TF

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 01:37:36AM -0400, [email-masked] wrote:
> Dear members, 
> 
> I have received the following note from the DNSO Secretariat.  
> 
> Dear Danny,
> Following the request from Philip Sheppard the [email-masked] list has been 
> opened.  
> Would please be so kind as to nominate a ga Representative to this task 
> force.  Up to now the following people have been nominated.
> 
> "Philip Sheppard" <[email-masked]>obs/ initial chair
> "Marilyn Cade" <[email-masked]> BC constit
> "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]> Registrars constit
> "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <[email-masked]> ccTld consit
> "Tony Holmes" <[email-masked]>ISP constit
> "Mark Bonahan" <[email-masked]> IP constit
> "David Johnson" <[email-masked]> gTLDs constit. 
> The archives are in:
>     http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-str/Arc00/
> 
> Look forward to hearing from you.
> DNSO Secretariat
> -------------------------
> 
> So far only Joop Teernstra has indicated an interest in participating in this 
> "Structure" Task Force... if others have an interest, please let me know.  
> Terms of Reference are cited at:  
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc06/msg00022.html

I volunteer.

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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:59:40 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  NC Structure TF

Dear Mr. Chair,

May I be so bold as to suggest a little structure of the GAs own. (I note our
current members who are on these different TFs or WGs and thank them for their
updates to this GA.)

Perhaps when you place a member from this group you also could appoint our own
mimicking TF.  Give it a home on the sub-lists.  Informally we would restrict
participation in the sublist to our TF for that purpose.  However GA members
would be encouraged to observe those sublists and bring to the GA list anything
they felt of consequence.  Of course whoever you placed on the outside TF would
be the chair of our TF and could also run the list as they felt right.

For instance I would love to see a GA Structure TF that included Kent, Jeff,
Dassa and Joanna and with that any one of them would be a great rep on the
outside TF. Make the task forces 4 so that the chair or alt chair can be a
deciding consensus vote on matters of import.

Of course an active Alt-Chair could be the Pro Tem of all of the groups and help
to resolve administrative problems as they may occur.

I believe this program would greatly help not only in terms of participation and
credibility, but also be of great guidance to the outside TFs.  Also with
balanced grouping the GA TFs could actually vote and claim a representative
consensus that would be helpful to all of ICANN.

I also believe that in this way the sublists could be utilized in a manner to
enhance productivity and cohesiveness of the GA rather than detract from those
lofty goals.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,
Eric

[email-masked] wrote:

> Dear members,
>
> I have received the following note from the DNSO Secretariat.
>
> Dear Danny,
> Following the request from Philip Sheppard the [email-masked] list has been
> opened.
> Would please be so kind as to nominate a ga Representative to this task
> force.  Up to now the following people have been nominated.
>
> "Philip Sheppard" <[email-masked]>obs/ initial chair
> "Marilyn Cade" <[email-masked]> BC constit
> "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]> Registrars constit
> "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <[email-masked]> ccTld consit
> "Tony Holmes" <[email-masked]>ISP constit
> "Mark Bonahan" <[email-masked]> IP constit
> "David Johnson" <[email-masked]> gTLDs constit.
> The archives are in:
>     http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-str/Arc00/
>
> Look forward to hearing from you.
> DNSO Secretariat
> -------------------------
>
> So far only Joop Teernstra has indicated an interest in participating in this
> "Structure" Task Force... if others have an interest, please let me know.
> Terms of Reference are cited at:
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc06/msg00022.html
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:18:01 +0000
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Review Task Force

Good evening.

Please be aware that a second draft has been produced by the Task Force for 
a final vote before publication for public comments.
I have just sent the following text in reply.

Best regards
Roberto

- --------------------
Philip,

I do appreciate the hard work you have put in place under difficult 
circumstances, but having noted that none of my objections have been 
reflected in the current draft, I am forced to vote against the document.

Best regards
Roberto
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:59:43 -0700
From: "Tim Langdell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  NC Structure TF

I also volunteer

Tim

Tim Langdell
CEO
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From: "Kent Crispin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: NC Structure TF

> On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 01:37:36AM -0400, [email-masked] wrote:
> > Dear members,
> >
> > I have received the following note from the DNSO Secretariat.
> >
> > Dear Danny,
> > Following the request from Philip Sheppard the [email-masked] list has
been
> > opened.
> > Would please be so kind as to nominate a ga Representative to this task
> > force.  Up to now the following people have been nominated.
> >
> > "Philip Sheppard" <[email-masked]>obs/ initial chair
> > "Marilyn Cade" <[email-masked]> BC constit
> > "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]> Registrars constit
> > "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <[email-masked]> ccTld consit
> > "Tony Holmes" <[email-masked]>ISP constit
> > "Mark Bonahan" <[email-masked]> IP constit
> > "David Johnson" <[email-masked]> gTLDs constit.
> > The archives are in:
> >     http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-str/Arc00/
> >
> > Look forward to hearing from you.
> > DNSO Secretariat
> > -------------------------
> >
> > So far only Joop Teernstra has indicated an interest in participating in
this
> > "Structure" Task Force... if others have an interest, please let me
know.
> > Terms of Reference are cited at:
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc06/msg00022.html
>
> I volunteer.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:21:56 -0400
From: "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] sunrise policy discussion ....

hello Sanjeev....

if you review the exact sunrise policies the following wording exists in
paragraph 5 : ( located at
http://www.afilias.info/faq/sunrise-challenge-policy.html)

" 5.    Maintaining the Status Quo.  We will not cancel, transfer, activate,
deactivate, or otherwise change the status of any Domain Name registration
subject to this Policy, except as provided in Paragraph 3 and 4 above. "

Paragraph 3 & 4 outline specific circumstances where "status" may change but
the "initiation" of a challenge does not appear to be one of the
circumstances.

the FAQ as originally stated is correct but does not elaborate enought ( i
believe that is because their is an assumption that the reader of the FAQ
would go directly to the policies for more specificity..

best regards

ken stubbs

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From: "Sanjeev Goyal" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:04 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud

>
> Dear Ken Stubbs,
>
> pls check on Afilias Site:
>
> http://www.afilias.info/faq/sunrise.html
>
> they have clearly mention there in FAQ that:
>
> When can I start using a domain registered during the Sunrise Period?
>
> Names registered during the Sunrise Period will become accessible
> through Internet Web browsers beginning on September 19, 2001. Names
> challenged according to Sunrise Challenge procedures may be put on hold
> for dispute resolution.
>
>
> Sanjeev Goyal.
> =====================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Ken Stubbs <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > From: "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]>
> > To: "Sanjeev Goyal" <[email-masked]>,
> > <[email-masked]>
> > Subject: Re: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud
> > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:44:33 -0400
> >
> > hello Sanjeev
> >
> > i believe that your statemeny regarding afilias registry  policy
> > during with
> > regard to sunrise challenges  may not be correct.
> >
> > the policy is located at:
> > http://www.afilias.info/faq/sunrise-challenge-policy.html
> >
> > please look carefully at paragraph # 5
> >
> > regards
> >
> > ken stubbs
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sanjeev Goyal" <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:29 AM
> > Subject: [ga] (ga)Easyspace Ltd. part of fraud
> >
> >
> > > Dear Fellow assembly members,
> > >
> > > A great thing come to my knowledge that One of my friend file
> > sunrise
> > > challenge on domain Business.info which is register by Easyspace
> > > limited.
> > > As per Afilias policy if any sunrise period booked domain goes for
> > > challenge then it will not resolve till the dispute is setteled.
> > > Thats why one copy of challenge goes to registrar also, just to
> > take
> > > account of the situation.
> > > But to my knowledge the said disputed domain Business.info is
> > resolving
> > > and it is redirected to some site through easyspace limited.
> > >
> > > Is easyspace limited not know what to do in this situation?
> > >
> > > Sanjeev Goyal.
> > > ==========
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