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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:17:20 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Condolences

I am shocked by the New York tragedy, a place where I had friends or 
business relations among people working in the building, hotel and 
commercial center where I used to go... I will probably never know their 
fate good or bad. My condoleances to everyone affected by this tragedy on 
this list.

On 20:08 11/09/01, William X Walsh said:
>Tuesday, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 10:50:01 AM, L Gallegos wrote:
> > Perhaps the members of the GA could now consider the meaning
> > of a single point of failure with a non-distributed root.
>
>While I supported the sentiment of the rest of your message, I find
>this not only an incorrect characterization, but I find it offensive
>to use this event to further that agenda.

I understand your remark but I am afraid you misudersand what Leah says. 
Half the root servers are on the East coast. On Saturday I made a point in 
my Montevideo presentation about a power outage on the East US Coast and 
the Internet going progressively down. In case of tragedy we do not need 
that in addition. What Leah talks about is not inclusive root, but 
non-distributed root system. Nothing would prevent the root servers to be 
distributed over several 13 machines galaxies all over the planet - even 
under the tight control of the DoC and using the restricted ICANN root.

I recall in the 80s the Mexico strategy. For several hours the only link 
with the rest of the world was one guy with a keyboard and a mailbox with 
IEMS a small e-mail gateway service teaming with Tymnet in Cupertino. For 
hours he reported to Cupertino without feed back because he was new at the 
service and did not know where to check, IEMS relaying his mails to MCI and 
ITT, them reading them to the Mexican and US Armies by phone. While IEMS 
traced his mails and acknowledged them manually to keep him knowing and 
going. They probably helped saving hundredth of lifes that day. Because 
IEMS had a smart distributed e-mail gateway and a no-single point of 
failure solution there. And a very gallant user ... I never forgot about 
that nor about him.

A very sad day. For us all.
My prayers for them all.
Jefsey

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:34:32 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Condolences/WORK

Dear All,

I have just learned of some friends that have perished.  But I have also just
learned that much connection for some farmers selling rice and coffee in
Southeast Asia has been lost.  World Wide it seems trade centers in various
countries relied on connectivity through the World Trade Center to communicate
buying and selling.  These "links" will need to be reestablished.  Because of
this great loss and the resulting loss of communication throughout the world
some of our poorest children will go even more hungry.

As Jefsey and Roeland and Leah made so clear, we have an obligation to get this
right and to keep right on working.  We must reduce our cynicism, increase our
synergism and get this inter connectivity up to its' highest ability.  I bow
once again to the fine people who can make this work.  Please carry on in a
more enlightened fashion and save our children.

Sincerely,
Eric

L Gallegos wrote:

>
> We have no idea what the death toll will be, but it will be bad.  My
> heart goes out anyone with family or friends in Manhattan or on
> any of hijacked planes involved.  Another plane has crashed in
> Pennsylvania near PIttsburgh.
>
> Perhaps the members of the GA could now consider the meaning
> of a single point of failure with a non-distributed root.
>
> Leah

"William S. Lovell" wrote:

>
> The potential that the Internet has in that regard is why I work at this
> whole
> bit, hoping firstly that we work harder at developing a tolerance for the
> views of others, and secondly that we become more and more creative in
> seeking
> out means by which such new understanding as we may acquire will be put
> to practical use.
>
> Bill Lovell

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> I am shocked by the New York tragedy, a place where I had friends or
> business relations among people working in the building, hotel and
> commercial center where I used to go... I will probably never know their
> fate good or bad. My condoleances to everyone affected by this tragedy on
> this list.

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> I too wish to express my condolences and sympathies to all the victims and
> families affected by these heinous acts.

Roeland,

The only prevention of further tragedy
is mental strength and resistance to fear. Have faith, stay calm, go about
normal business, where possible and prudent, and above all, do not over
react.

Again, my heartfelt sympathies to those directly involved in this tragedy.

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:04:03 -0700
From: "William S. Lovell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Condolences

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> I am shocked by the New York tragedy, a place where I had friends or
> business relations among people working in the building, hotel and
> commercial center where I used to go... I will probably never know their
> fate good or bad. My condoleances to everyone affected by this tragedy on
> this list.
>
> On 20:08 11/09/01, William X Walsh said:
> >Tuesday, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 10:50:01 AM, L Gallegos wrote:
> > > Perhaps the members of the GA could now consider the meaning
> > > of a single point of failure with a non-distributed root.
> >
> >While I supported the sentiment of the rest of your message, I find
> >this not only an incorrect characterization, but I find it offensive
> >to use this event to further that agenda.
>
> I understand your remark but I am afraid you misudersand what Leah says.
> Half the root servers are on the East coast. On Saturday I made a point in
> my Montevideo presentation about a power outage on the East US Coast and
> the Internet going progressively down. In case of tragedy we do not need
> that in addition. What Leah talks about is not inclusive root, but
> non-distributed root system. Nothing would prevent the root servers to be
> distributed over several 13 machines galaxies all over the planet - even
> under the tight control of the DoC and using the restricted ICANN root.

This was also my interpretation of Leah's remark, although William is not wrong

in suggesting that such a tragedy as this is no place to advance personal
agenda.
The point being made is that we must recall the underlying structural plan put
in
place when the first "internet" communications were sent: this was a military
operation, and the object was to ensure survival of communications capability,
through replicated server sites and so on.  Well, what with terrorist attacks
on
New York and D.C., and also the hacking and sabotage of USG net sites,
the Internet again becomes a military operation so far as the US, at least, is
concerned  In its basic responsibility to "preserve the stability of the
Internet," I
CANN now has the paramount duty of ensuring the implementation of the same
kind of distributed root system as was used at the very beginning.  The ability
of
the FBI and other national and international police agencies to track the true
origins of Internet communications must also be protected and enhanced as
much as possible, so that denial of service attacks or anything like that can
be
traced to their source and the originators arrested and prosecuted.

As will be the perpetrators of today's tragedy.

Bill Lovell

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:04:36 -0700
From: "William S. Lovell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Condolences

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> I am shocked by the New York tragedy, a place where I had friends or
> business relations among people working in the building, hotel and
> commercial center where I used to go... I will probably never know their
> fate good or bad. My condoleances to everyone affected by this tragedy on
> this list.
>
> On 20:08 11/09/01, William X Walsh said:
> >Tuesday, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 10:50:01 AM, L Gallegos wrote:
> > > Perhaps the members of the GA could now consider the meaning
> > > of a single point of failure with a non-distributed root.
> >
> >While I supported the sentiment of the rest of your message, I find
> >this not only an incorrect characterization, but I find it offensive
> >to use this event to further that agenda.
>
> I understand your remark but I am afraid you misudersand what Leah says.
> Half the root servers are on the East coast. On Saturday I made a point in
> my Montevideo presentation about a power outage on the East US Coast and
> the Internet going progressively down. In case of tragedy we do not need
> that in addition. What Leah talks about is not inclusive root, but
> non-distributed root system. Nothing would prevent the root servers to be
> distributed over several 13 machines galaxies all over the planet - even
> under the tight control of the DoC and using the restricted ICANN root.

This was also my interpretation of Leah's remark, although William is not wrong

in suggesting that such a tragedy as this is no place to advance personal
agenda.
The point being made is that we must recall the underlying structural plan put
in
place when the first "internet" communications were sent: this was a military
operation, and the object was to ensure survival of communications capability,
through replicated server sites and so on.  Well, what with terrorist attacks
on
New York and D.C., and also the hacking and sabotage of USG net sites,
the Internet again becomes a military operation so far as the US, at least, is
concerned  In its basic responsibility to "preserve the stability of the
Internet,"
ICANN now has the paramount duty of ensuring the implementation of the same
kind of distributed root system as was used at the very beginning.  The ability
of
the FBI and other national and international police agencies to track the true
origins of Internet communications must also be protected and enhanced as
much as possible, so that denial of service attacks or anything like that can
be
traced to their source and the originators arrested and prosecuted.

As will be the perpetrators of today's tragedy.

Bill Lovell

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:05:06 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Condolences

Sotiris and all assembly members,

  We here at INEGroup and those in my company also convey our
condolences and sympathies as well.  We are also preparing to
put together aid and relief supplies in NYC, Somerset, and Wash. D.C
as well as lining up to donate blood for those in need in those areas.
People here in the Dallas area have already lined up at various
hospitals and blood donation centers to donate blood.  Please
everyone, seek areas where you can help to provide blood, or
any other aid for those so tragically impacted by this "Dastardly"
attack on democracy.

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> I too wish to express my condolences and sympathies to all the victims and
> families affected by these heinous acts.
>
> Most Sincerely,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I wish to extend my sympathy and prayers to all who will suffer from the
> > horrible tragedy which befell New York this morning.
> >
> > May we all try to do our part to use this tool, the Internet, to move
> > the world toward a higher understanding of each other and rid us of such
> > hatred.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:47:30 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] News from New York

We are fine, but it does feel a little like a war zone here. New York State
has just been declared a disaster area. Another 47 story building has
collapsed and rescue services still cannot get into the area to pull people
out. I have watched a billow of smoke rising in the sky across the bay all
day, both white and black smoke. We are about 40 minutes east of the city by
train from Penn Station on Long Island. This morning, I went to the top of
the hill in a local park and from our vantage point, we could see the
skyline clearly against the cloudless blue sky, but not the same skyline we
know and love. 

As the sun sets here, our thoughts are with all those who are affected by
this tragedy, and in this community, no family will be left untouched in the
coming days.

The atmosphere is calm and very subdued, dead on the streets, save for
emergency service sirens from time time as they make their way into the city
on highways that are closed to all normal traffic. Two local schools have
also received bomb threats during the day, one assumes from copycats. Many
friends of our own children have parents who work in the city. By
mid-morning today, the school called for all children whose parents work in
the city to report to the main office, where they each tried to contact
their parents by phone.

All roads, highways, tunnels, bridges, airports and waterways around
Manhattan are closed.  There is no way in and out of the city from where we
are. Our friends have been evacuated by boat to New Jersey.  Wireless phones
are out, only landlines open, and long lines waiting to use those. My ISP is
in the NYC. Let's see if this bounces.

For those with friends in the WTO, it may reassure you to know that my
friend has spoken to one family member who was working on the 60th floor at
the time the first plane hit. He escaped and is now in a New Jersey hospital
with only minor injuries.

The roads are dead outside. They are evacuating from Manhattan by ferry to
New Jersey, using the tourist cruise boats and tugs, which then return to
the city with supplies which are now running short. There is a shortage of
food and water. They appealed about an hour ago for sandwiches and soda to
be taken to the New jersey ferry ports, as well as blood throughout the
area. Donations centres are being set up for tomorrow. Trains from Penn
station, have been coopted to bring the injured to Long Island Hospitals,
mainly the walking wounded, burn victims who can wait for treatment. The
first will arrive at about 9pm in our area, about 1 1/2 hours from now. JFK
Airport will be closed until at least 12 noon tomorrow.

My thoughts and sympathies are with all New Yorkers, and particularly those
in my own community, whose pain over coming days and months will be almost
unbearable. There is nobody in this community who will not be affected, but
if anybody can cope with such devastation, it is New Yorkers. They have
phenominal emergency resources and strength of mind. Rest assured, we will
survive and be a stronger people for it.

Friends in England report that they have evacuated the City of London and
that there is a news blackout in the UK of all but the most basic
information from the US. I am not inclined to believe there is a news
blackout. Our TV and radio stations here are broadcasting freely, and many
phone numbers for friends and families to call about loved ones. If anybody
needs them, let me know off-list.

Regards,

Joanna

The URLs for Best Practices: DNSO Citation:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/gaindex.html
(Under "Other Information Documents"; "August 2001:
Proposal for Best Practices for the DNSO GA")
Part I: 
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010813.GA-BestPractices.html
Part II: 
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010813.GA-BP-flowchart.pdf
(Access to the .pdf file requires installing the Adobe Acrobat
Reader, which is available for free down load at
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.) 

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:29:58 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: The ccTLD position (was  Re: [ga] taking positions on country  specific legislation

Gentle Folks,

You are all mailed directly here because I want your consensus!!

This is very important to me and our many dotcommoners.  We must stand together
that there are no deletions to seats to the at large based upon creation of any
individuals constituency or any new ccTLD constituencies/SOs. If any one
included herein determines that they can negotiate this back door for votes of
what ever please speak your piece.

Please join with me on a consensus to this matter.

Bless all who in engage in dialogue.
Eric

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Dengate-Thrush" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> <snip>
> > The fact that there is a formidable challenge to the At Large Movement
> > having 9 seats is not of the ccTLDs making.
>
> True enough.
>
> > In the absence of creating new seats, we accept that our ccSO proposal
> will
> > require a re-allocation of existing seats. There are a large number of
> > factors which will go into the Board's re-evaluation of the balance of
> > representation in ICANN.
> >
> > Once there is acceptance of the ccSO in principle, we expect to take part
> > with other stakeholders in discussions about that balance. That's a debate
> > we look forward to.
>
> This almost sounds encouraging.
>
> >In the meantime, lets stick to the facts.
>
> I'm all for that.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:34:55 -0400
From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] what we share

What a terrible tragedy for all -- in human lives lost or harmed; in
economic impact; but most of all, in the loss of trust.

I learned of the World Trade Center crashes, along with a cab driver who is
in the U.S. from Egypt for 15 years, and who is very much a U.S. citizen...
and we both thought, almost simultaneously, of the issues of reaction toward
peoples from whatever country, or religion, or continent which the attacks
might have originated from... 

I hope that all of us can, while we mourn this situation, and the damage to
individuals, also be ambassadors of concern that in any pursuit of the
perpetrators, that we don't accidentally create undue mistrust toward each
other, or any peoples.

Like others on this  list,  I am sad, and regretful, and perhaps even
frightened at what happens next.  But, like others, also hopeful that
understanding can grow out of this terrible tragedy and that we will all, as
world citizens, not punish innocent people in the search for those who did
this.

Marilyn

- -----Original Message-----
From: Eric Dierker [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:45 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Condolances

Dear All,

I wish to extend my sympathy and prayers to all who will suffer from the
horrible tragedy which befell New York this morning.

May we all try to do our part to use this tool, the Internet, to move
the world toward a higher understanding of each other and rid us of such
hatred.

Sincerely,
Eric

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:01:30 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: The ccTLD position (was  Re: [ga] taking positions on country  specific legislation

Dear Eric,
our over and over explained france@large position to the ccTLDs documented 
on http://icann-fra.org is probably the only realistic one - however we 
better understood why since we wrote it.

- - the Internet is OUR consensus to connect OUR machines. This consensus of 
OURS is managed by OUR governance. We may be involved in two ways: as 
members of a group of similar "netwide" interests - this is a constituency 
like in the DNSO or we can be interested individually - these are the 
@large. All of US having different forms of interests, but being equally 
important to the others - as ISP, Registrars, ccTLD, @large, authors, 
designers, content providers, etc...

- - the BoD is not elected. It is selected. What we want to achieve is the 
best balance among origins, concerns, etc... 9/9 is therefore natural 
between these to representation of ourselves. No one my outgrow the other, 
and there are diversified enough not to fear BoD hi-jacking. IMHO the 
"ccSO" should actually continue to participate to the DNSO and enter the 
ASO and PSO. Two possibilities: ccTLD get 3 seats and the 3 other 
constituencies get 2 and nobody is happy. ccSO get no seat and one Director 
from each SO must be a ccTLD.

Also, what we say is that the @large should share into the animation of the 
local communities with the ccTLD, so there is a local consensus between 
ccTLDs and @large for better relations.  We also way that ccTLD should stop 
thing as ccTLD and think as NICs. Because as ccTLD they are just a TLD 
among millions to come and big gTLDs. While as NIC they are unique in their 
country and can provide many new services and expand.

Jefsey

On 05:29 12/09/01, Eric Dierker said:
>Gentle Folks,
>
>You are all mailed directly here because I want your consensus!!
>
>This is very important to me and our many dotcommoners.  We must stand 
>together
>that there are no deletions to seats to the at large based upon creation 
>of any
>individuals constituency or any new ccTLD constituencies/SOs. If any one
>included herein determines that they can negotiate this back door for votes of
>what ever please speak your piece.
>
>Please join with me on a consensus to this matter.
>
>Bless all who in engage in dialogue.
>Eric
>
>Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Dengate-Thrush" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > The fact that there is a formidable challenge to the At Large Movement
> > > having 9 seats is not of the ccTLDs making.
> >
> > True enough.
> >
> > > In the absence of creating new seats, we accept that our ccSO proposal
> > will
> > > require a re-allocation of existing seats. There are a large number of
> > > factors which will go into the Board's re-evaluation of the balance of
> > > representation in ICANN.
> > >
> > > Once there is acceptance of the ccSO in principle, we expect to take part
> > > with other stakeholders in discussions about that balance. That's a 
> debate
> > > we look forward to.
> >
> > This almost sounds encouraging.
> >
> > >In the meantime, lets stick to the facts.
> >
> > I'm all for that.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:14:29 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] what we share

Well then this should be done promptly and I ask our more proficient writers to
adjust my poor words.

We being the finest and brightest of all worldwide daily interaction groups.
Be it known by all people our convictions, the GA hereby Resolves that;

We in the General Assembly of the Domain Name Support Organization are committed
and endorse the following principals:

There are no nationalities which we hold above or below any other nationality.
All cultures are equal within our perspective.
All ethnic groups are equal and good.
There are no nations or cultures or ethnicity's which deserve more or less of
our respect.
We are committed to making each and every voice heard.
We are committed to bridging the gaps of cultural, digital and linguistic
differences.
As we commit to Internet stability we commit to Nations which help to commit to
World stability.

Let it be known.

Sincerely,
Eric

"Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" wrote:

> What a terrible tragedy for all -- in human lives lost or harmed; in
> economic impact; but most of all, in the loss of trust.
>
> I learned of the World Trade Center crashes, along with a cab driver who is
> in the U.S. from Egypt for 15 years, and who is very much a U.S. citizen...
> and we both thought, almost simultaneously, of the issues of reaction toward
> peoples from whatever country, or religion, or continent which the attacks
> might have originated from...
>
> I hope that all of us can, while we mourn this situation, and the damage to
> individuals, also be ambassadors of concern that in any pursuit of the
> perpetrators, that we don't accidentally create undue mistrust toward each
> other, or any peoples.
>
> Like others on this  list,  I am sad, and regretful, and perhaps even
> frightened at what happens next.  But, like others, also hopeful that
> understanding can grow out of this terrible tragedy and that we will all, as
> world citizens, not punish innocent people in the search for those who did
> this.
>
> Marilyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dierker [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:45 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [ga] Condolances
>
> Dear All,
>
> I wish to extend my sympathy and prayers to all who will suffer from the
> horrible tragedy which befell New York this morning.
>
> May we all try to do our part to use this tool, the Internet, to move
> the world toward a higher understanding of each other and rid us of such
> hatred.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:36:55 -0700
From: "William S. Lovell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] what we share

"Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" wrote:

> What a terrible tragedy for all -- in human lives lost or harmed; in
> economic impact; but most of all, in the loss of trust.
>
> I learned of the World Trade Center crashes, along with a cab driver who is
> in the U.S. from Egypt for 15 years, and who is very much a U.S. citizen...
> and we both thought, almost simultaneously, of the issues of reaction toward
> peoples from whatever country, or religion, or continent which the attacks
> might have originated from...

Marilyn:

In this case, I think (and hope), that no such reactions, or at least very few,
should occur.  The identified villain is Osama Bin Laden, and no peoples
that I know of get automatically associated with him. That may be a wrong
conclusion (to blame him), as was the first conclusion with respect to
Oklahoma City, but this one is more likely to be right.  Those who will have
worries will be residents of Kabul; a Libya-like attack by the U.S. on
Afghanistan can confidently be predicted.  (Iran's condemnation of the
attack may well be a smoke screen, but after its own little war, Russia
would certainly not object!)

> I hope that all of us can, while we mourn this situation, and the damage to
> individuals, also be ambassadors of concern that in any pursuit of the
> perpetrators, that we don't accidentally create undue mistrust toward each
> other, or any peoples.

We can help do that here on these pages, methinks.  The first thing to
realize is that regardless of their ethnic origins, ordinary lay people,
especially in the Middle East, are not personally responsible for the
things that the country of their origin does.  Those who still live there
could be "blamed" in principle, if one assumed that even being there
they had anything to say about the actions of their governments, but
people who have lived in the U. S. for years do not automatically
become suspected as conspirators, or even supporters.  During
WWII there was substantial reason to suspect people because
there was an active Fifth Column at work, but that is certainly not
the case today -- it does not take continent-wide networks of
spies to do what was done today, but only a couple dozen people
or so.

> Like others on this  list,  I am sad, and regretful, and perhaps even
> frightened at what happens next.  But, like others, also hopeful that
> understanding can grow out of this terrible tragedy and that we will all, as
> world citizens, not punish innocent people in the search for those who did
> this.

We must indeed rise above any such temptation -- NO "Red Monkeys"
scrawled on bridge foundations, as I saw around Portland during the Iran
capture of Americans under Carter.

Bill Lovell

>
> Marilyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dierker [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:45 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [ga] Condolances
>
> Dear All,
>
> I wish to extend my sympathy and prayers to all who will suffer from the
> horrible tragedy which befell New York this morning.
>
> May we all try to do our part to use this tool, the Internet, to move
> the world toward a higher understanding of each other and rid us of such
> hatred.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
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The URLs for Best Practices:
DNSO Citation:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/gaindex.html
(Under "Other Information Documents"; "August 2001:
Proposal for Best Practices for the DNSO GA." This
page also includes much else about the DNSO.)
Part I:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010813.GA-BestPractices.html
Part II:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010813.GA-BP-flowchart.pdf
(Access to the .pdf file requires the Adobe Acrobat Reader,
available for free down load at
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.)
Part III:
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:48:45 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] what we share

Tuesday, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 9:36:55 PM, William S. Lovell wrote:

> "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" wrote:

>> What a terrible tragedy for all -- in human lives lost or harmed; in
>> economic impact; but most of all, in the loss of trust.
>>
>> I learned of the World Trade Center crashes, along with a cab driver who is
>> in the U.S. from Egypt for 15 years, and who is very much a U.S. citizen...
>> and we both thought, almost simultaneously, of the issues of reaction toward
>> peoples from whatever country, or religion, or continent which the attacks
>> might have originated from...

> Marilyn:

> In this case, I think (and hope), that no such reactions, or at least very few,
> should occur.

They are happening.  Regretfully, several Islamic communities, and
religious centers have received telephone threats this evening here in
the state of California.

This was not an attack by an ethnicity or religion. This was an attack
on America and the American people, of all ethnicities and religions.

This was an attack on the peace and dignity of the world really.

No Americans should be singled out, because of their ethnicity or
religion.  They are as repulsed, angry, and shocked by this attack as
any other Americans.  We shouldn't subject them to another reason to
fear.  There is already enough fear this day.

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:40:07 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] what we share

WXW, Marilyn, Bill and all assembly members,

  I agree with Marilyn and Bill.  Marilyn is quite correct that a loss of trust
is the most terrible repercussion.  We all that have been involved in
world affairs and politics on various levels and in certain issues, have seen
and are experiencing a continuing drain of trust.  The horrific events in
NYC, Wash. DC., and Somerset PA. do not justify however a
means to engender trust.  What we have seen and heard/read of
the ICANN events in Montevideo, are also a drain on the greater
trust in our fellow man by the ICANN leadership...

  It is obvious beyond just simple understanding that no ethnic or
religious groups citizens of the US, should be viewed with distrust
for any reason because of yesterdays events.  I hope that such
not even need be mentioned on this forum again, by anyone, at anytime
for any reason!  I personally am quite disgusted that such mention
was made at all!  :(

William X Walsh wrote:

> Tuesday, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 9:36:55 PM, William S. Lovell wrote:
>
> > "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" wrote:
>
> >> What a terrible tragedy for all -- in human lives lost or harmed; in
> >> economic impact; but most of all, in the loss of trust.
> >>
> >> I learned of the World Trade Center crashes, along with a cab driver who is
> >> in the U.S. from Egypt for 15 years, and who is very much a U.S. citizen...
> >> and we both thought, almost simultaneously, of the issues of reaction toward
> >> peoples from whatever country, or religion, or continent which the attacks
> >> might have originated from...
>
> > Marilyn:
>
> > In this case, I think (and hope), that no such reactions, or at least very few,
> > should occur.
>
> They are happening.  Regretfully, several Islamic communities, and
> religious centers have received telephone threats this evening here in
> the state of California.
>
> This was not an attack by an ethnicity or religion. This was an attack
> on America and the American people, of all ethnicities and religions.
>
> This was an attack on the peace and dignity of the world really.
>
> No Americans should be singled out, because of their ethnicity or
> religion.  They are as repulsed, angry, and shocked by this attack as
> any other Americans.  We shouldn't subject them to another reason to
> fear.  There is already enough fear this day.
>
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> The most advanced domain lookup tool on the net
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