Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #610
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GA-DIGEST            Friday, July 13 2001            Volume 01 : Number 610

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 01:13:16 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] [Admin] Suspension of Dierker, Fleming, Walsh, Williams

Eric and all assembly members,

  I agree with you r analysis here Eric, as well as WXW's earlier
suggestion.  But lets be sure that we don't shoot the messenger,
Kristy.  I am sure that she was under some pressure...  None the
less, in that speaking for myself, I am sorry that I went 3 posts
over the limit on two days June 24th and July 5th.  I can see that
it was a terrible infraction that I was not readily aware of occurring.
I will endeavor to keep a closer track of the number of posts
I make in the future.  I hope that the chair will excuse my
exceeding the limit of 5 posts per day by 3 posts on two
occasions in two months.  It is simply inexcusable I suppose...

  I also would suggest myself, as I have in the past that the limit
of 5 posts per day is too few during some periods where
very important issues are introduced or under discussion.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Well there you have it.  Obvious and complete truth that dissenters are
> not allowed in the GA.  I can hardly wait to see my malfeasance, and I
> just bet it includes some for which I was already punished.  This is a
> good thing because it will cut down activity in the GA.  It will assure
> representativeness and transparency and bottoms-up.
>
> I have not decided to be negative and remain on the full and work to
> destroy the GA credibility or just move on as so many have. I imagine I
> can find many friends on the board and NC.  Now that you have formed a
> club you can form consensus - but it don't mean squat.
>
> Good luck,
> Kristy McKee wrote:
>
> > The list monitors note that there have been four
> > suspensions, effective immediately.
> >
> >   Jeff Williams, [email-masked]
> >   eight weeks suspension
> >
> >   Eric Dierker, [email-masked]
> >   four weeks suspension
> >
> >   William X. Walsh, [email-masked]
> >   four weeks suspension
> >
> >   Jim Fleming, [email-masked]
> >   two weeks suspension
> >
> > Best regards,
> > /// Alexander (for the list monitors)
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Jeff Williams has broken
> > the posting limit by sending eight and six mails to the
> > GA within two consecutive 24 hour periods:
> >
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:56:05
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03374.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:34:27
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03375.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 05:16:11
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03379.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:11:00
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03430.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:21:18
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03436.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:24:14
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03437.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:39:58
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03438.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:53:37
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03440.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:18:41 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03441.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:07:08 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03444.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:15:23 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03445.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:14:01 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03449.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:07:30 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03459.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 21:33:33 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03466.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Jeff Williams has already
> > been barred five times.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Jeff Williams for eight weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Eric Dierker has broken
> > the posting limit, despite warnings and his promise
> > "I will not over post" (referenced in a mail at
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02922.html).
> >
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 8:48:12
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02979.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:40:34
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03004.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:04:55
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03005.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:43:52
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03009.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:00:43
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03011.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:09:38
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03013.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:07:15
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03015.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Eric Dierker has been
> > previously warned and suspended; the suspension has
> > been overturned.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Eric Dierker for four weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that William X. Walsh has made
> > personal attacks against members of the General Assembly.
> > (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-icann/Arc00/msg00111.html;
> > "If you can't see that, then your prejudice and arrogance
> > is blinding you, as usual.") The list monitors note that
> > there have also been attacks regarding the history of the
> > IDNO (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03116.html,
> > "Including your own little temper tantrum when you pulled the
> > IDNO website and had the mailing list turned off because
> > people were asking you to step down (which when you were made
> > aware of how those actions were proving your critics right,
> > you claimed were an "error" and had them turned back on).").
> > Even though discussion of an Individual Domain Name Holders
> > Organization or Constituency is on-topic, postings threatening
> > other members of the General Assembly (the posting starts
> > with the lines "I might suggest that you watch your moves.")
> > and repeating unsubstantiated allegations are against the
> > list rules which call for "a minimum of decorum".
> >
> > The list monitors also find that William X. Walsh has broken
> > the posting limit, even though he is well aware of it and even
> > the way it is calculated (as can be seen from
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02813.html).
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:33:32
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02971.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:10:12
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02983.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:55:52
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02988.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:20:49
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02990.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:36:23
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02995.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:16:39
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03001.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:18:54
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03002.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that William X. Walsh has been
> > previously warned and suspended twice; one of the
> > suspensions has been overturned.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of William X. Walsh for four weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Jim Fleming has violated
> > the list rules by sending messages without any relevance
> > to the business of the GA to the list.
> > Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:46:18
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03321.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Jim Fleming has just recently
> > received a warning for breaking the list rules (posting
> > limit violation).
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Jim Fleming for two weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ~k
> >
> > Kristy McKee (for the List Monitors)
> >   Kristy McKee 612.823.2418
> >   .W I D G I T A L.Espware.
> >
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:08:13 +1000
From: "Alternate Chair" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force

Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GA-UdrpTF.html

So far there have been seven nominations for the position of GA
representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force.  They are as follows:

NOMINEE                    NOMINATOR
Chris McElroy             Jeff Williams
Jeff Williams                Chris McElroy
Michael Froomkin       Joop Teernstra
William Lovell              Sandy Harris
Rod Dixon                     Sotiris Sotiropoulos
Kent Crispin                 Ken Stubbs
Dan Steinberg              Ken Stubbs

Formally, two persons have accepted and one declined.  They are:

5 Jul 2001      Chris McElroy    ACCEPTED
11 Jul 2001    Rod Dixon           ACCEPTED
9 July 2001    William Lovell     DECLINED

Please note that

(1)    Nominations close on Monday 16 July 2001, 07:00 UTC, 09:00 CET
(Paris).
(2)    Acceptances close on Monday 16 July 2001 at 10:00 UTC, 12:00 CET
(Paris)
        This is three (3) hours LATER than nominations.

Patrick Corliss
Alternate Chair

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:50:25 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Roberto reelected - to support what? 

All the best and all my trust to Roberto.
Bravo to DPF. His positions as well as Joop's positions should be taken 
into account since Roberto said he want to represent the positions of the 
GA. It is very positive to see that the ticket is by people having said 
they only wanted to serve. Thank you to both.

Now, if the "representative approach" has won, it is interesting to see the 
distribution of the ideas.

48 Members are supporting the positions of Joop  59%
41 Members the positions of Kent 51%
37 Members the positions of Eric 46%

Joop's crusade for IDNH is therefore well supported, but not unanimous yet.
Kent is often objected but slighly more than half of the active Members 
support his analysis, but probably less his conclusions.
What is important IMHO is the 46% of Eric. All the more than some of his 
posts may have not desserved him: his "dotcommer" point of view is 
obviously not a minoritary point of view. It would be interesting to go in 
more detail to see if his supporters are the same or not as Joop. But 
obviously both Individual "constituencies" - Domain Name Holders and 
Internet Users - are a leading concern among us.
Jefsey

On 22:13 11/07/01, DPF said:
>On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:52:10 +0200 (MET DST), DNSO Sec wrote:
>
> >A. The final result:
> >
> >     Roberto Gaetano is elected.
>
>Well done Roberto.  An excellent result and you have my full support
>and confidence.
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:17:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Greenwell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Alternate Chair wrote:

> Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force
> http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GA-UdrpTF.html
>
> So far there have been seven nominations for the position of GA
> representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force.  They are as follows:
>
> NOMINEE                    NOMINATOR
> Chris McElroy             Jeff Williams
> Jeff Williams                Chris McElroy

Can anyone verify that Chris McElroy is a natural person by that name, and
not a fiction?

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:58:30 -0400
From: "L Gallegos" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force

He's quite real, human - not a fiction.

Leah

On 12 Jul 2001, at 9:17, Patrick Greenwell wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Alternate Chair wrote:
> 
> > Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force
> > http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2001.DNSO-GA-UdrpTF.html
> >
> > So far there have been seven nominations for the position of GA
> > representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force.  They are as
> > follows:
> >
> > NOMINEE                    NOMINATOR
> > Chris McElroy             Jeff Williams
> > Jeff Williams                Chris McElroy
> 
> Can anyone verify that Chris McElroy is a natural person by that name,
> and not a fiction?
> 
> 
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> /\/\/\/\
>                                Patrick Greenwell
>                        Earth is a single point of failure.
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> \/\/\/\/
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick Greenwell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, L Gallegos wrote:

> He's quite real, human - not a fiction.

Thanks Leah.

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:46:05 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP Task Force

I've known Chris McElroy since WG-Review. He has a very distinctive style of
writing, and a passionate interest in UDRP, with a thorough knowledge and
understanding of the issues. If the implication is that he is Jeff Williams
in disguise, you need not worry...:-)

Chris was first nominated on the list by myself, seconded by Ross @Tucows,
but Jeff pipped us to the post on the formal submission to the Secretariat.

If you believe that UDRP problems have arisen in part because of too many
lawyers and not enough attention to the public trust, and that what it
really needed is to form a balanced Task Force of both lawyers and some
common sense advocacy of the public interest, Chris is your man.

Regards,
Joanna

on 7/12/01 2:05 PM, Patrick Greenwell at [email-masked] wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, L Gallegos wrote:
> 
>> He's quite real, human - not a fiction.
> 
> Thanks Leah.
> 
> 
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> Patrick Greenwell
> Earth is a single point of failure.
> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:06:40 -0700
From: Derek Conant <[email-masked]>
Subject: petty and ridiculous - Re: [ga] [Admin] Suspension of Dierker, Fleming,  Walsh, Williams

GA No Tolerance Policy - petty and ridiculous.

Dierker, Fleming, Walsh, Williams, cool it now, the way the GA list
monitors are running things here you'll probably get jail-time the next
time they decide to punish you.  Who decides the punishment in this case
and what are the statue of limitations for alleged violations anyway?
This is laughable.  It looks like you better be careful with what you
say next time.  I don't believe the allegations warranted suspension.

Derek Conant
DNSGA President and Chairman

Kristy McKee wrote:

> The list monitors note that there have been four
> suspensions, effective immediately.
>
>   Jeff Williams, [email-masked]
>   eight weeks suspension
>
>   Eric Dierker, [email-masked]
>   four weeks suspension
>
>   William X. Walsh, [email-masked]
>   four weeks suspension
>
>   Jim Fleming, [email-masked]
>   two weeks suspension
>
> Best regards,
> /// Alexander (for the list monitors)
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> The list monitors find that Jeff Williams has broken
> the posting limit by sending eight and six mails to the
> GA within two consecutive 24 hour periods:
>
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:56:05
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03374.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:34:27
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03375.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 05:16:11
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03379.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:11:00
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03430.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:21:18
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03436.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:24:14
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03437.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:39:58
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03438.html
> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:53:37
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03440.html
> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:18:41 -0700
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03441.html
> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:07:08 -0700
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03444.html
> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:15:23 -0700
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03445.html
> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:14:01 -0700
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03449.html
> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:07:30 -0700
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03459.html
> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 21:33:33 -0700
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03466.html
>
> The list monitors note that Jeff Williams has already
> been barred five times.
>
> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> rights of Jeff Williams for eight weeks. This decision
> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> --------------------------------------------------
> The list monitors find that Eric Dierker has broken
> the posting limit, despite warnings and his promise
> "I will not over post" (referenced in a mail at
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02922.html).
>
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 8:48:12
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02979.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:40:34
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03004.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:04:55
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03005.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:43:52
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03009.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:00:43
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03011.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:09:38
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03013.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:07:15
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03015.html
>
> The list monitors note that Eric Dierker has been
> previously warned and suspended; the suspension has
> been overturned.
>
> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> rights of Eric Dierker for four weeks. This decision
> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> --------------------------------------------------
> The list monitors find that William X. Walsh has made
> personal attacks against members of the General Assembly.
> (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-icann/Arc00/msg00111.html;
> "If you can't see that, then your prejudice and arrogance
> is blinding you, as usual.") The list monitors note that
> there have also been attacks regarding the history of the
> IDNO (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03116.html,
> "Including your own little temper tantrum when you pulled the
> IDNO website and had the mailing list turned off because
> people were asking you to step down (which when you were made
> aware of how those actions were proving your critics right,
> you claimed were an "error" and had them turned back on).").
> Even though discussion of an Individual Domain Name Holders
> Organization or Constituency is on-topic, postings threatening
> other members of the General Assembly (the posting starts
> with the lines "I might suggest that you watch your moves.")
> and repeating unsubstantiated allegations are against the
> list rules which call for "a minimum of decorum".
>
> The list monitors also find that William X. Walsh has broken
> the posting limit, even though he is well aware of it and even
> the way it is calculated (as can be seen from
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02813.html).
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:33:32
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02971.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:10:12
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02983.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:55:52
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02988.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:20:49
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02990.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:36:23
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02995.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:16:39
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03001.html
> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:18:54
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03002.html
>
> The list monitors note that William X. Walsh has been
> previously warned and suspended twice; one of the
> suspensions has been overturned.
>
> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> rights of William X. Walsh for four weeks. This decision
> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> --------------------------------------------------
> The list monitors find that Jim Fleming has violated
> the list rules by sending messages without any relevance
> to the business of the GA to the list.
> Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:46:18
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03321.html
>
> The list monitors note that Jim Fleming has just recently
> received a warning for breaking the list rules (posting
> limit violation).
>
> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> rights of Jim Fleming for two weeks. This decision
> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> ~k
>
> Kristy McKee (for the List Monitors)
>   Kristy McKee 612.823.2418
>   .W I D G I T A L.Espware.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:48:58 -0700
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Election of GA Representative to the Names Council UDRP  Task Force

> From: Patrick Greenwell [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:17 AM

> > Chris McElroy             Jeff Williams
> > Jeff Williams                Chris McElroy
> 
> Can anyone verify that Chris McElroy is a natural person by 
> that name, and not a fiction?

Yes, I can. I have spoken to him on the phone and will meet him for lunch
this weekend. Rather, that's the plan.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:19:39 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Hearings in Washington

I was able to attend yesterday's U.S. Senate committee hearing on Privacy & 
the Internet, and I am pleased to report that the privacy concerns of 
individuals seem to be shared by many U.S. legislators.  There seemed to be a 
general agreement that the DOC's Safe Harbor program is meeting with success. 
 For more information on Safe Harbor, you may visit the following URL:  
http://www.export.gov/safeharbor/

While unable to attend today's House Hearings on the WHOIS database, the 
preliminary testimony appears to be quite encouraging:  
http://www.house.gov/judiciary/4.htm
Some of the most interesting comments were put forth by the President of 
Junkbusters Corp.:  http://www.house.gov/judiciary/catlett_071201.htm

Also, please note that it appears that our efforts with regard to WHOIS will 
closely be examined:

"Earlier this month, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 
announced that it has launched a study to gauge the privacy concerns raised 
by the public accessibility of the whois database. This study is directed to 
anyone who has ever used the service, both in the global top level domains 
and in the 244 country-code top level domains. I look forward to seeing the 
results of this study, and comparing them to what we hear today from our 
witnesses."  -- http://www.house.gov/judiciary/berman_071201.htm

As results from the WHOIS survey will soon be released, I encourage you to 
put forward your thoughts on this topic.  Our GA-SYS list has been dealing 
with this topic.  So far, the WHOIS survey, as of the date of the NC 
teleconference, has generated 1300 responses.

Perhaps Paul Kane, the NC Whois Committee Chair can provide us with an update 
and indications of his plans going forward...
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:20:40 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] RealNames Proposes Unified NamingArchitecture for Next Generation Internet atNational Academies Meeting

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010712/0315.html

Keith Teare, CEO of RealNames, "believes this new naming system is possible
using the foundation of an unchanged DNS and adding new functionality either
above or alongside the current system. He is supportive of the ongoing work
of the IETF and ICANN to maintain a single root server for DNS, as well as
current proposals for the creation of an overlay DNS directory services
layer. The RealNames Keyword naming system and supporting resolution
services platform already embody much of the proposed functionality for
unified naming. Teare proposes Keyword-based services as an important part
of the solution for an industry-wide initiative to build naming standards
within a common discovery and resolution layer that enables
access across all networks through their applications."

Regards,
Joanna

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:32:16 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] UDRP -- View from The Register

Why ICANN's domain dispute rules are flawed: Part I
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20304.html

Why ICANN's domain dispute rules are flawed: Part II
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20305.html

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 03:14:15 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] RealNames Proposes Unified NamingArchitecture for Next Generation Internet atNational Academies Meeting

This would lead to a "root TLD", where a keyword would have an unique 
meaning for the entire world. A huge value for the most powerfull TM 
holders. No need to register in every TLD that open roots might create.
This would certainly go in Stuart's way of an "unique authoritative toot" ...
They want it for years.. They name them "famous TradeMarks", or is it 
infamous TMs?
Jefsey

On 02:20 13/07/01, Joanna Lane said:
>http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010712/0315.html
>
>Keith Teare, CEO of RealNames, "believes this new naming system is possible
>using the foundation of an unchanged DNS and adding new functionality either
>above or alongside the current system. He is supportive of the ongoing work
>of the IETF and ICANN to maintain a single root server for DNS, as well as
>current proposals for the creation of an overlay DNS directory services
>layer. The RealNames Keyword naming system and supporting resolution
>services platform already embody much of the proposed functionality for
>unified naming. Teare proposes Keyword-based services as an important part
>of the solution for an industry-wide initiative to build naming standards
>within a common discovery and resolution layer that enables
>access across all networks through their applications."
>
>Regards,
>Joanna
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:19:40 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] DNSO Finances -- Most recent report

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-budget/Arc00/msg00455.html

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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:16:16 -0700
From: "William S. Lovell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: petty and ridiculous - Re: [ga] [Admin] Suspension of Dierker,  Fleming, Walsh, Williams

Mr. Conant characterizes his own email by his subject line. A very,
VERY long history of ICANN in general and the GA in particular
- -- a history in which one one may leave one hand in one's pocket
to count all the things that the GA has accomplished -- has shown
irrefutably that what has prevented the GA from doing anything has
been its anarchic, chaotic manner of operation.  Throwing stones
(or little pebbles in this case) at one of a very few mechanisms for
putting an end to that chaos merely adds to it. The monitors are
to be commended for their action, in face of the almost inevitable
event that such action would bring out all the pebble throwers.

As should be those who were suspended.  So far, I've seen these
suspensions accepted with refreshing good grace --  more grace,
I might add, than is shown by Mr. Conant with his flights of highly
insulting fancy.  (Mr. Walsh objects to the rather late imposition,
and he may very well have a valid point, although I suspect that
the answer might be that the monitors have "day jobs" too.)

Bill Lovell

Derek Conant wrote:

> GA No Tolerance Policy - petty and ridiculous.
>
> Dierker, Fleming, Walsh, Williams, cool it now, the way the GA list
> monitors are running things here you'll probably get jail-time the next
> time they decide to punish you.  Who decides the punishment in this case
> and what are the statue of limitations for alleged violations anyway?
> This is laughable.  It looks like you better be careful with what you
> say next time.  I don't believe the allegations warranted suspension.
>
> Derek Conant
> DNSGA President and Chairman
>
> Kristy McKee wrote:
>
> > The list monitors note that there have been four
> > suspensions, effective immediately.
> >
> >   Jeff Williams, [email-masked]
> >   eight weeks suspension
> >
> >   Eric Dierker, [email-masked]
> >   four weeks suspension
> >
> >   William X. Walsh, [email-masked]
> >   four weeks suspension
> >
> >   Jim Fleming, [email-masked]
> >   two weeks suspension
> >
> > Best regards,
> > /// Alexander (for the list monitors)
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Jeff Williams has broken
> > the posting limit by sending eight and six mails to the
> > GA within two consecutive 24 hour periods:
> >
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:56:05
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03374.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:34:27
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03375.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 05:16:11
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03379.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:11:00
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03430.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:21:18
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03436.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:24:14
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03437.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:39:58
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03438.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:53:37
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03440.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:18:41 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03441.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:07:08 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03444.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:15:23 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03445.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:14:01 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03449.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:07:30 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03459.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 21:33:33 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03466.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Jeff Williams has already
> > been barred five times.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Jeff Williams for eight weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Eric Dierker has broken
> > the posting limit, despite warnings and his promise
> > "I will not over post" (referenced in a mail at
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02922.html).
> >
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 8:48:12
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02979.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:40:34
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03004.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:04:55
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03005.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:43:52
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03009.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:00:43
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03011.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:09:38
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03013.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:07:15
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03015.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Eric Dierker has been
> > previously warned and suspended; the suspension has
> > been overturned.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Eric Dierker for four weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that William X. Walsh has made
> > personal attacks against members of the General Assembly.
> > (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-icann/Arc00/msg00111.html;
> > "If you can't see that, then your prejudice and arrogance
> > is blinding you, as usual.") The list monitors note that
> > there have also been attacks regarding the history of the
> > IDNO (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03116.html,
> > "Including your own little temper tantrum when you pulled the
> > IDNO website and had the mailing list turned off because
> > people were asking you to step down (which when you were made
> > aware of how those actions were proving your critics right,
> > you claimed were an "error" and had them turned back on).").
> > Even though discussion of an Individual Domain Name Holders
> > Organization or Constituency is on-topic, postings threatening
> > other members of the General Assembly (the posting starts
> > with the lines "I might suggest that you watch your moves.")
> > and repeating unsubstantiated allegations are against the
> > list rules which call for "a minimum of decorum".
> >
> > The list monitors also find that William X. Walsh has broken
> > the posting limit, even though he is well aware of it and even
> > the way it is calculated (as can be seen from
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02813.html).
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:33:32
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02971.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:10:12
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02983.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:55:52
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02988.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:20:49
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02990.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:36:23
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02995.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:16:39
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03001.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:18:54
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03002.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that William X. Walsh has been
> > previously warned and suspended twice; one of the
> > suspensions has been overturned.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of William X. Walsh for four weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Jim Fleming has violated
> > the list rules by sending messages without any relevance
> > to the business of the GA to the list.
> > Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:46:18
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03321.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Jim Fleming has just recently
> > received a warning for breaking the list rules (posting
> > limit violation).
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Jim Fleming for two weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ~k
> >
> > Kristy McKee (for the List Monitors)
> >   Kristy McKee 612.823.2418
> >   .W I D G I T A L.Espware.
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