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GA-DIGEST             Sunday, June 3 2001             Volume 01 : Number 508

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:16:41 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] webcast of GA ??

Bret and all assembly members,

  Here we go again...  Is anyone surprised given the history of
remote participation of ICANN meetings and recent events?
I for one, am not....

Bret A. Fausett wrote:

> I seem unable to reach the page for the GA webcast:
>
>    http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm/
>
> Has anyone else been able to get in? (message sent at 8:45 am Stockholm
> time, 11:45 pm Los Angeles time).
>
>      -- Bret
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:47:47 -0400
From: "L Gallegos" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] webcast of GA ??

It was up on time.  I've been monitoring since it began.  there are over 
15 participants in IRC as well.

On 2 Jun 2001, at 3:16, Jeff Williams wrote:

> Bret and all assembly members,
> 
>   Here we go again...  Is anyone surprised given the history of
> remote participation of ICANN meetings and recent events?
> I for one, am not....
> 
> Bret A. Fausett wrote:
> 
> > I seem unable to reach the page for the GA webcast:
> >
> >    http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm/
> >
> > Has anyone else been able to get in? (message sent at 8:45 am Stockholm
> > time, 11:45 pm Los Angeles time).
> >
> >      -- Bret
> >
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:22:00 +0200
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Connectivity troubles....

the traceroute says it all.
Something is broken somewhere between Stockholm and the US East Coast.

C:\>tracert www.icann.org

Tracing route to www.icann.org [192.0.34.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

   1   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  217.199.231.254
   2   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  cty3-core.pos0-0.swip.net [130.244.10.221]
   3   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  stb1-core.srp6-0.swip.net [130.244.198.23]
   4    10 ms    20 ms    10 ms  mlm2-core.pos4-0.swip.net [130.244.193.93]
   5    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  icm-tl2-11-H6-0-E3.icp.net [198.67.142.129]
   6  1262 ms  1262 ms  1261 ms  198.67.142.185
   7  1272 ms  1282 ms  1271 ms  sl-bb22-pen-5-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.5.169]
   8  1292 ms  1312 ms  1312 ms  sl-bb20-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.77]
   9  2454 ms  2443 ms  2444 ms  sl-bb21-ana-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.98]
  10  1332 ms  1322 ms  1322 ms  sl-gw24-ana-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.1.210]

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 09:17:10 -0000
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Connectivity troubles....

For the record, it is fine from here (within Europe).
It is now restarting after the break.
RG

>From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[email-masked]>
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: [ga] Connectivity troubles....
>Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:22:00 +0200
>
>the traceroute says it all.
>Something is broken somewhere between Stockholm and the US East Coast.
>
>C:\>tracert www.icann.org
>
>Tracing route to www.icann.org [192.0.34.65]
>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
>   1   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  217.199.231.254
>   2   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  cty3-core.pos0-0.swip.net [130.244.10.221]
>   3   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  stb1-core.srp6-0.swip.net [130.244.198.23]
>   4    10 ms    20 ms    10 ms  mlm2-core.pos4-0.swip.net [130.244.193.93]
>   5    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  icm-tl2-11-H6-0-E3.icp.net 
>[198.67.142.129]
>   6  1262 ms  1262 ms  1261 ms  198.67.142.185
>   7  1272 ms  1282 ms  1271 ms  sl-bb22-pen-5-2.sprintlink.net 
>[144.232.5.169]
>   8  1292 ms  1312 ms  1312 ms  sl-bb20-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net 
>[144.232.18.77]
>   9  2454 ms  2443 ms  2444 ms  sl-bb21-ana-8-0.sprintlink.net 
>[144.232.8.98]
>  10  1332 ms  1322 ms  1322 ms  sl-gw24-ana-9-0.sprintlink.net 
>[144.232.1.210]
>
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 04:59:58 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Connectivity troubles....

Harald and all,

  Yep.  Typical Sprint...

Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

> the traceroute says it all.
> Something is broken somewhere between Stockholm and the US East Coast.
>
> C:\>tracert www.icann.org
>
> Tracing route to www.icann.org [192.0.34.65]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
>    1   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  217.199.231.254
>    2   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  cty3-core.pos0-0.swip.net [130.244.10.221]
>    3   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  stb1-core.srp6-0.swip.net [130.244.198.23]
>    4    10 ms    20 ms    10 ms  mlm2-core.pos4-0.swip.net [130.244.193.93]
>    5    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  icm-tl2-11-H6-0-E3.icp.net [198.67.142.129]
>    6  1262 ms  1262 ms  1261 ms  198.67.142.185
>    7  1272 ms  1282 ms  1271 ms  sl-bb22-pen-5-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.5.169]
>    8  1292 ms  1312 ms  1312 ms  sl-bb20-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.77]
>    9  2454 ms  2443 ms  2444 ms  sl-bb21-ana-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.98]
>   10  1332 ms  1322 ms  1322 ms  sl-gw24-ana-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.1.210]
>
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:02:20 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] GA Meeting in Stockholm - no webcast or remote participation

on 6/2/01 7:52 AM, Joop Teernstra at [email-masked] wrote:

> At 02:45 2/06/01 -0400, Joanna Lane wrote:
>> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm
> 
> The webcast is there, but I cannot find any link to the IRC  channel that
> we used to have.
> A specific question about it to Ben Edelman was met with a non answer
> referring me to the above URL.
> 
> 
> --Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
> [email-masked]
> http://www.imachination.com

Neither could I, so I had to add the server to my IRC client.
server: bcis.law.harvard.edu.
port: 6667 
/join #icann-chat or /join #scribe

Regards,
Joanna

> 

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:32:20 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Alice in wonderland

This is so fun, everyone needs to follow it in the sub list roots.  Come
on get to work on the sequal movie.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> This is so funny I cannot stand it. My name is Eric and I own
> Eric.biz, someone else
> now has Eric.biz on ICANNs root my server resolves to the name of the
> new Eric.biz,
> so using the name [email-masked] is now useless.  AND THIS IS OUT OF
> THE SCOPE OF THE
> ***NAMES*** COUNCIL. I cannot stop laughing this is hillarious. Well
> who in the hell
> is in charge of names???
>
> eric, or maybe i need a new name, should I ask the "names" council?
>
> Bret Fausett wrote:
>
> > It sounds to me like they did the right thing with the second
> motion, as I
> > agree that the subject is out of scope.
> >
> > Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> > > I have now seen the NC vote twice about whether or not to study
> alt-root
> > > stuff. First they passed a motion to study the question 12-9.
> Then, after a
> > > coffee break, they passed a motion to not consider the issue,
> since it was out
> > > of scope and they had no competence to study it, nullifying the
> earlier
> > > motion.
> >

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 18:33:00 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ga-rules] Bounced Messages & Other List Administration

On 18:19 02/06/01, NameCritic said:
>I second Bill's proposal there. An Information Admin. would be great.
>Chris McElroy aka NameCritic

I propose you name give him the title of "guide" as proposed by Patrick 
sometimes....
:-) but please do not translate the title :-) !!!!

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:05:37 -0500
From: Bruce James <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] UPDATE: ICANN-Stockholm DNSO Meetings Complete, Public Forum Tomorrow

Greetings!

Today's meetings of the DNSO General Assembly and Names Council are now
complete, and archives of these sessions have been posted in the online
meeting archive at <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm/archive>.
Archives include complete RealVideo recordings, agendas, scribe's notes,
documents and presentations used, real-time questions received, and online
discussion logs.

Meetings resume tomorrow at 8:30AM local time with the ICANN Public Forum.
To join the webcast, go to <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm>.
During and just before webcasts, a prominent link on this page will allow
you to enter the remote participation area.  Please be sure to join us
online at the proper time, being aware of time zone differences.  Links at
<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm> can help you convert
Stockholm time to local time in your area.

In preparation for the meetings, you may want to review the meeting agenda,
as posted at <http://www.icann.org/stockholm/#agenda>.  From that page,
you'll also find public comment spaces on major agenda items.

If you miss some or all of the Public Forum or if you wish to review content
generated by the Public Forum, be advised that complete archives of the
session will be posted at
<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/stockholm/archive> upon its conclusion.

Access to the remote participation system requires a 28.8kbps or faster
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Finally, if you're not already subscribed to ICANN's announcements list, you
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We look forward to seeing you online during the meetings!

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:30:23 -0500
From: Bruce James <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN

Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19395.html

/Bruce

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:41:03 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN

Bruce James wrote:

> Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN:
>
>  http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19395.html
>
> /Bruce

And ICANN is powerless, because they were designed that way.  It is as
though we are all mesmerized by ICANN and hypnotized into believing the
have power and authority. but in fact they have none. They have only the
power which we give to them as users.

I was privileged over the last 10 days or so to be listening or actively
involved with telephone conversations with many of the biggest
registrar-marketers of domain names in the world.  They are lousy.  They
rely on their monopolistic type relationship with Verisign and ICANN.
Just watch; those of us not affiliating with ICANN and only restrained
by our imagination will very soon surpass these monolithes. Why did the
majority of dotCOM companies fail? because they are only vapor like
ICANN.

The ccTLD chiefs know this.

ps (it is interesting to note that Danny Youngers' quick trip to
prominence began with his analogy from one of his children about Indian
tribal Chiefs getting together and deciding things)

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:37:18 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Alice in wonderland

Mr. Morfin has just gently corrected the error of my thinking.  It is very
funny in the words which are used but Mr. Fausset is very correct.  Of
course these matters are for the world to decide and not the names council.
OTOH I think that we working here have an obligation to that world to help
them decide.

My apologies if any insult were taken by my previous post.

eric

Eric Dierker wrote:

> This is so fun, everyone needs to follow it in the sub list roots.  Come
> on get to work on the sequal movie.
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > This is so funny I cannot stand it. My name is Eric and I own
> > Eric.biz, someone else
> > now has Eric.biz on ICANNs root my server resolves to the name of the
> > new Eric.biz,
> > so using the name [email-masked] is now useless.  AND THIS IS OUT OF
> > THE SCOPE OF THE
> > ***NAMES*** COUNCIL. I cannot stop laughing this is hillarious. Well
> > who in the hell
> > is in charge of names???
> >
> > eric, or maybe i need a new name, should I ask the "names" council?
> >
> > Bret Fausett wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds to me like they did the right thing with the second
> > motion, as I
> > > agree that the subject is out of scope.
> > >
> > > Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> > > > I have now seen the NC vote twice about whether or not to study
> > alt-root
> > > > stuff. First they passed a motion to study the question 12-9.
> > Then, after a
> > > > coffee break, they passed a motion to not consider the issue,
> > since it was out
> > > > of scope and they had no competence to study it, nullifying the
> > earlier
> > > > motion.
> > >
>
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 21:56:07 +0200
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ga-roots] Two standards

Well, Marc, some alluded to the Tea Party for the ccTLD move.

As I see the situation is as this:

- - the Lords supported by the Crown (sorry, USG)
   "I can as ICANN"
- - the Gentlemen Farmers from the Country Club
- - the rebels from the TLDA
- - the Pirates from New.net and Nameslinger.
- - the non commited (NC) from drowning DNSO

Question: will the Gentlemen Farmers turn Insurgents?
May be the key will be the Boxers Revolt.

There is a big meeting next forthnight in Paris on ".eu"
as the key for European e-commerce. I presume the
main question from the public will be: "will Europe join
the WWAccTLD?"

Jefsey

On 19:59 02/06/01, Marc Schneiders said:
>Pardon me for being short. You forget two things:
>
>1. ICANN is backed up by your government, the US. Others accept this
>so far. That gives all those supported by ICANN a huge
>advantage, at no cost. Nearly all ISps use the ICANN root. Don't tell
>others to be competitive. They haven't this free support.
>
>2. ICANN is still pretending it is working on some democracy in its
>organisation. I have not much faith in that, but the long talking
>process slows down counter efforts, e.g. a euroroot. Alternatives (say
>under the UN) are perhaps worse. So we'll all wait, and wait, and
>wait, and wait.
>
>Well, now we are not even supposed to discuss alt roots anymore in the
>DNSO. Or did I get that wrong?
>
>On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, at 09:54 [=GMT-0700], Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > It is not so doom and gloom.  When the bully makes an ass out of himself
> > he loses some of his power.  As Michael Powell noted in his interview
> > recently, we need less regulation and not more.  It is consumer choices
> > which will drive this ether communicated world.  ICANN is really not
> > holding up anyone.  Technical and commercial forces are moving as fast as
> > they can at 10,000 new users a day- 400 plus per hour.  Catch a movie and
> > have a nice dinner and you have just missed over a thousand new
> > customers.  ICANN controlling or slowing things down is like Wilbur
> > stopping a train wreck.
> >
> > Our tiny little company drives over 14 million hits per month, and we do
> > not focus on driving hits, we just build them and they come. Do you think
> > we could not throw a million or so toward or against an alt root.  ICANN
> > is good for discussion, but if you think they control the net and hold
> > things up - rethink.
> >
> > eric(or has the "names" council given me a new one - oops that is outside
> > their scope)
> >
> > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> >
> > > Apparently there are two standards in operation. That is if I
> > > understand Cochetti some 10 minutes ago on the NC webcast.
> > >
> > > We should let VeriSign go on with its multilingual testbed, although
> > > there is no IETF standard, nor an ICANN board decision regarding
> > > non-ASCII domain names. They cannot freeze for two months
> > > until the IETF sets a standard. Why? Because otherwise others will run
> > > away with it and make the money, in stead of the ICANN backud up
> > > companies...
> > >
> > > However, where there are already TLDs running, for years, in the
> > > normal English language ASCII world, there we should protect against
> > > outside of ICANN processes. Therefore we ignore the alt roots, new.net
> > > and the like. We have a strong enough foot in this market and use
> > > ICANN to keep others out. So we do not even want to discuss talking to
> > > these others.
> > >
> > > If ICANN buys this line, it clearly shows that it is just legitimizing
> > > some favoured companies.
> > >
> > > Two standards. The only difference: we have the market already, or we
> > > don't. Are we buying this?
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 13:30:08 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [ga-roots] Two standards

Mr. Morfin,

We have no times for questions!!  We must be off-off to get to the party.

Those of us here at dotVN are backing the dark horse to win the race and we beg
the EU to move for independence. As the French gave the U.S. the statute of
Liberty, so the U.S. gives to the French and their EU cousins support for
developing their own freedom on the net. Our accident of developing the net, is a
chain and not a rein.  Mr. Bush and the rest of us want the internet to belong to
the people. ICANN is the little Dutch boy's finger in the hole in the dike. ICANN
is not even the little dutch boy. You build it and we will come!!

eric

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Well, Marc, some alluded to the Tea Party for the ccTLD move.
>
> As I see the situation is as this:
>
> - the Lords supported by the Crown (sorry, USG)
>    "I can as ICANN"
> - the Gentlemen Farmers from the Country Club
> - the rebels from the TLDA
> - the Pirates from New.net and Nameslinger.
> - the non commited (NC) from drowning DNSO
>
> Question: will the Gentlemen Farmers turn Insurgents?
> May be the key will be the Boxers Revolt.
>
> There is a big meeting next forthnight in Paris on ".eu"
> as the key for European e-commerce. I presume the
> main question from the public will be: "will Europe join
> the WWAccTLD?"
>
> Jefsey
>
> On 19:59 02/06/01, Marc Schneiders said:
> >Pardon me for being short. You forget two things:
> >
> >1. ICANN is backed up by your government, the US. Others accept this
> >so far. That gives all those supported by ICANN a huge
> >advantage, at no cost. Nearly all ISps use the ICANN root. Don't tell
> >others to be competitive. They haven't this free support.
> >
> >2. ICANN is still pretending it is working on some democracy in its
> >organisation. I have not much faith in that, but the long talking
> >process slows down counter efforts, e.g. a euroroot. Alternatives (say
> >under the UN) are perhaps worse. So we'll all wait, and wait, and
> >wait, and wait.
> >
> >Well, now we are not even supposed to discuss alt roots anymore in the
> >DNSO. Or did I get that wrong?
> >
> >On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, at 09:54 [=GMT-0700], Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > It is not so doom and gloom.  When the bully makes an ass out of himself
> > > he loses some of his power.  As Michael Powell noted in his interview
> > > recently, we need less regulation and not more.  It is consumer choices
> > > which will drive this ether communicated world.  ICANN is really not
> > > holding up anyone.  Technical and commercial forces are moving as fast as
> > > they can at 10,000 new users a day- 400 plus per hour.  Catch a movie and
> > > have a nice dinner and you have just missed over a thousand new
> > > customers.  ICANN controlling or slowing things down is like Wilbur
> > > stopping a train wreck.
> > >
> > > Our tiny little company drives over 14 million hits per month, and we do
> > > not focus on driving hits, we just build them and they come. Do you think
> > > we could not throw a million or so toward or against an alt root.  ICANN
> > > is good for discussion, but if you think they control the net and hold
> > > things up - rethink.
> > >
> > > eric(or has the "names" council given me a new one - oops that is outside
> > > their scope)
> > >
> > > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > >
> > > > Apparently there are two standards in operation. That is if I
> > > > understand Cochetti some 10 minutes ago on the NC webcast.
> > > >
> > > > We should let VeriSign go on with its multilingual testbed, although
> > > > there is no IETF standard, nor an ICANN board decision regarding
> > > > non-ASCII domain names. They cannot freeze for two months
> > > > until the IETF sets a standard. Why? Because otherwise others will run
> > > > away with it and make the money, in stead of the ICANN backud up
> > > > companies...
> > > >
> > > > However, where there are already TLDs running, for years, in the
> > > > normal English language ASCII world, there we should protect against
> > > > outside of ICANN processes. Therefore we ignore the alt roots, new.net
> > > > and the like. We have a strong enough foot in this market and use
> > > > ICANN to keep others out. So we do not even want to discuss talking to
> > > > these others.
> > > >
> > > > If ICANN buys this line, it clearly shows that it is just legitimizing
> > > > some favoured companies.
> > > >
> > > > Two standards. The only difference: we have the market already, or we
> > > > don't. Are we buying this?
> > > >
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:52:20 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Re: [ga-roots] Two standards

Hello Eric,

Saturday, June 02, 2001, 1:30:08 PM, Eric Dierker wrote:

> Those of us here at dotVN

What position do you hold with the .vn TLD, Eric?

From what I can see, none, so please educate us.

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:12:05 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN

Bruce and all assembly members,

  We [INEGroup] amongst others predicted before MDR that the ccTLD's
would have to make a choice.  The article points out nicely the "Nuclear

Option" that they posses.  Couple this with New.Net, and other Root
structures,
seems to point directly with what we[INEGroup] have known for almost
2 yrs, that the ICANN BoD doesn't have the breadth or level of support
is perports to have...

Bruce James wrote:

> Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN:
>
>  http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19395.html
>
> /Bruce
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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:19:44 -0400 
From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN

I think the headline is a mischaracterisation.  The ccTLD move has received
support from the BC, ISPC, IPC, in a briefing they held today. I expect
supporting statements to be made in the public meeting. Everyone I've talked
to seems to agree that they are already doing so much work on the issues
which are different from gTLD issues -- in essence almost operating as an
SO. 

Marilyn

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Subject: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN

Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19395.html

/Bruce

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Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN

No one I know supports the idea of any DNSO group taking seats from the at
large.  We must move in very different circles!

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:

> I think the headline is a mischaracterisation.  The ccTLD move has received
> support from the BC, ISPC, IPC, in a briefing they held today. I expect
> supporting statements to be made in the public meeting. Everyone I've talked
> to seems to agree that they are already doing so much work on the issues
> which are different from gTLD issues -- in essence almost operating as an
> SO. 
> 
> Marilyn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce James [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:30 PM
> To: GA
> Subject: [ga] Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN
> 
> 
> Country code chiefs go nuclear on ICANN:
> 
>  http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19395.html
> 
> /Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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