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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:52:55 -0700
From: "William S. Lovell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] STATISTICS

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"babybows.com" wrote:

> STATISTICS:
>
> a. In the last twenty five days, 1333 comments have been posted to the GA
> list by 75 people.
> b. 10 individuals accounted for 54% of the posts
> c. 15 individuals accounted for 66% of the posts
> d. 20 individuals accounted for 76% of the posts
> e. 25 individuals accounted for 82% of the posts
>
> If our ongoing efforts are to be meaningful, and if we wish to be regarded
> as a credible institution, we had better take action to increase overall
> participation in the GA.    I am advised by the DNSO Secretariat that the
> membership roster of the GA now totals in excess of 900 individuals - this
> means that over 90% of our members have chosen not to participate in recent
> discussions on the GA list.

It's all the petty cat fights, methinks. All the blood and guts. The dogmatism.
Ad hominum attacks.  A bunch of little boys out in a field seeing who can pee
the farthest.  Sure as hell keeps me from taking much of it too seriously.

Bill Lovell
http://cerebalaw.com

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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>STATISTICS:
<p>a. In the last twenty five days, 1333 comments have been posted to the
GA
<br>list by 75 people.
<br>b. 10 individuals accounted for 54% of the posts
<br>c. 15 individuals accounted for 66% of the posts
<br>d. 20 individuals accounted for 76% of the posts
<br>e. 25 individuals accounted for 82% of the posts
<p>If our ongoing efforts are to be meaningful, and if we wish to be regarded
<br>as a credible institution, we had better take action to increase overall
<br>participation in the GA.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am advised by the DNSO
Secretariat that the
<br>membership roster of the GA now totals in excess of 900 individuals
- - this
<br>means that over 90% of our members have chosen not to participate in
recent
<br>discussions on the GA list.</blockquote>
It's all the petty cat fights, methinks. All the blood and guts. The dogmatism.
<br>Ad hominum attacks.&nbsp; A bunch of little boys out in a field seeing
who can pee
<br>the farthest.&nbsp; Sure as hell keeps <i>me</i> from taking much of
it too seriously.
<p>Bill Lovell
<br><A HREF="http://cerebalaw.com">http://cerebalaw.com</A></html>

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:51:28 -0400
From: "L Gallegos" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] STATISTICS

Outreach is good, if the numbers are balanced from the community.  
There are not enough individuals and small businesses to balance out 
the special interests, so the capture is still there, IMO.  

I agree that the pettiness and personal attacks are killing the effort and 
am participating less as a result myself.  

Leah

On 28 Apr 2001, at 3:52, William S. Lovell wrote:

> 
> 
> "babybows.com" wrote:
> 
> > STATISTICS:
> >
> > a. In the last twenty five days, 1333 comments have been posted to the GA
> > list by 75 people.
> > b. 10 individuals accounted for 54% of the posts
> > c. 15 individuals accounted for 66% of the posts
> > d. 20 individuals accounted for 76% of the posts
> > e. 25 individuals accounted for 82% of the posts
> >
> > If our ongoing efforts are to be meaningful, and if we wish to be regarded
> > as a credible institution, we had better take action to increase overall
> > participation in the GA.    I am advised by the DNSO Secretariat that the
> > membership roster of the GA now totals in excess of 900 individuals - this
> > means that over 90% of our members have chosen not to participate in recent
> > discussions on the GA list.
> 
> It's all the petty cat fights, methinks. All the blood and guts. The dogmatism.
> Ad hominum attacks.  A bunch of little boys out in a field seeing who can pee
> the farthest.  Sure as hell keeps me from taking much of it too seriously.
> 
> Bill Lovell
> http://cerebalaw.com
> 

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:20:42 -0400
From: "babybows.com" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re:  STATISTICS

Leah wrote:  "There are not enough individuals and small businesses to
balance out
the special interests, so the capture is still there, IMO."

IMO you are correct; small businesses currently account for over 80% of all
domain registrations, yet are woefully underrepresented in ICANN.  As the
owner of a small business (and as a new member of the business
constituency), it is my personal goal to reach out to small business
associations and organizations.   Perhaps others that are SMEs in the
business constituency could volunteer to assist in such efforts.

I would also hope that those that are advocating for the formation of an
individuals' constituency will reach out accordingly to enlarge the roster
of our membership.  We have 301 members listed in our voting registry at the
moment... let's see how many we can have by the time that we meet in
Stockholm.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:59:12 +1000
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] INTERNAL PROCESSES

Internal Processes: To consider, build and enhance the General Assembly's
internal control processes including, but not limited to, its accountability
structures, electoral procedures, debating processes, mailing list rules and
system of management.

POSSIBLE AGENDA

(1)    Expenses and Funding.
Attendance at ICANN Conferences.
Revenue - Grants and Other Income.
Disbursements - who to and why?
DNSO Secretarial & Services.
Donations, use of external resources.

(2)    Communication Technology
Mailing lists, IRC & teleconferencing.
Physical and virtual meetings.
Minutes and recording.
Polling booths and voting.

(3)    Rules of Order, Working Groups
Setting up WGs & Terms of Reference.
Level and depth of participation.
Motions and discussion.
Reporting and consensus.
Complaints & lack of confidence.

(4)    List Rules and Protocols:
Appointment, removal of list monitors.
Personal attacks, insults and slander.
Excessive postings (esp. without content).
Main list & relationship to sublists.
Control & consistency of sublists.

(5)    Electoral Procedures.
Nomination & endorsement of candidates.
Selection of electoral watchdog.
Conducting the ballot.  Revotes.
Withdrawal of candidate.
Objections and appeals.
Names Council ratification.

(6)    Conflicts, Ethics & Disclosure.
Definition, applicability and necessity.
Requirement for continuous disclosure.
Accountability to DNSO GA or NC.

I'd appreciate any input members might have.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss
Co-Chair, DNSO GA.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 05:00:34 -0400
From: [email-masked] (Digitel - Ken Stubbs)
Subject: Re: [ga] STATISTICS

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your observations here are very accurate and your suggestions most =
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  Ad hominum attacks.  A bunch of little boys out in a field seeing who =
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:17:40 +1000
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] TRADE MARKS & IP

Trade Marks & IP:  To consider and recommend policy improvements in relation
to the use of domain names as a speech mechanism including, but not limited
to, its use for advertising, promotion, protest and criticism particularly
where such use may infringe on the rights or interests of other parties such
as trade-mark holders.

POSSIBLE AGENDA

(1)    UDRP
Definition of "cybersquatting".
Relationship to "trade mark law".
Common Law Trade Mark Rights.
Are domains property?
Dispute procedures & proofs.
Pattern matching to show "bad faith".
Speech - generic and protest words.
Reverse domain name hijacking.
Review of systemic faults or failures.
Accountability of arbitrators etc.

(2)    WIPO-2
Possible extensions to present system.
Applicability to ccTLDs & others.
Common words, pharmaceutical ids and geographic terms.
WIPO comment period ends 8th June.

I'd appreciate any input members might have.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss
Co-Chair, DNSO GA.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:41:33 +1000
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] COMPETITIVE ROOTS

Competitive Roots:  To consider and recommend policy improvements in
relation to ICANN's relationship with external or competitive root systems
including, but not limited to, what has been called alternate or inclusive
roots, and colliding top-level domains.

POSSIBLE AGENDA

(1)    Alternate Root Systems
Clarification or definition of terms.
Pros and cons of unique/multiple roots.
Supply and/or issue of new TLDs.
TLD claims, prior rights & abandonment.
Developments -- China, New.Net etc.
Identify problem & possible solutions.
e.g. co-operate, compete or ignore them?

(2)    Multilingual Domain Names
Identify the nature of their operations.
Test beds or live systems?  UDRP?
Any possible conflict or collision issues?
Relationship to Chinese alternative root.
Controlled by ICANN or not?

I'd appreciate any input members might have.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss
Co-Chair, DNSO GA.

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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:26:23 +1000
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] SYSTEMS

Systems:  To consider and recommend improvements to all of ICANN's existing
policies, practices and procedures including, but not limited to
registry-registrar separation, registrar accreditation, quality assurance
and registrant/whois privacy as well as any contracts or agreements in these
or related areas.

POSSIBLE AGENDA

(1)    Structures & Relationships
Registry-Registrar Separation
Verisign agreement (incl .org)
New registry agreements
ICANN accreditation & monitoring
Anti-trust & competition policy

(2)    Existing & Proposed TLDs
Review of TLD application process.
Holding over of lodged applications.
Pre-registrations of domain names
Government endorsement of ccTLDs
Revision to .edu with Educause

(3)    Registry- Registrar Operations
Registrant/Whois Data - Integrity & Privacy
Domain name holder's "Charter"
Stockpiling & warehousing domains.
Expired, on hold & unreleased names.

(4)    Multilingual Test-Bed
Identify the nature of their operations.
Test beds or live systems.
Controlled by ICANN or not?

(5)    Other System Developments
NAS Committee on Internet Searching & the DNS
MultiBind & other new technology
Future of the domain name system

I'd appreciate any input members might have.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss
Co-Chair, DNSO GA.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:09:19 -0400
From: Sandy Harris <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] STATISTICS

"babybows.com" wrote:
 
> STATISTICS:
> 
> a. In the last twenty five days, 1333 comments have been posted to the GA
> list by 75 people.
> b. 10 individuals accounted for 54% of the posts
> c. 15 individuals accounted for 66% of the posts
> d. 20 individuals accounted for 76% of the posts
> e. 25 individuals accounted for 82% of the posts

This is not an unusual pattern.

If you look at the distrubtion of English words, the first two are "the" at
6% and "of" at 3%. The top 100 or so words account for well over 50%, though
the language has over a million words. Similar patterns show up in other
languages. 

At the character level, about 14% in English are ' '.

Similar highly skewed distributions show up in population density (a small
portion of the land gets most of the people), income distributions, ...

Still, it is interesting data, Thanks for taking the initiative to count
these.
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:21:55 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] STATISTICS

These and the other statistics and this opinion are helpful to the already listed
participants. But just as an example;

How many participants are: Under age 50, not-formally educated in computer
technology, English as a primary language or are fluent, been using the Internet for
under five years, do not know what ICANN is, do not own a domain name.

Well there is 75% of your stakeholders.  We do not participate for ourselves but for
them. A bill of rights is not for the proactive but for the weak and uninformed
masses.

These people do not - not participate for any reasons listed on this list.  They do
not participate because they do not want to, they expect us to do it for them. We
should not ever fall into the trap of thinking that outreach en mass is anything but,
marketing and will entail propaganda.  This is not good or bad or a value judgment of
any sort. It just is. Cogito ergo sum.

Sincerely,

L Gallegos wrote:

> Outreach is good, if the numbers are balanced from the community.
> There are not enough individuals and small businesses to balance out
> the special interests, so the capture is still there, IMO.
>
> I agree that the pettiness and personal attacks are killing the effort and
> am participating less as a result myself.
>
> Leah
>
> On 28 Apr 2001, at 3:52, William S. Lovell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "babybows.com" wrote:
> >
> > > STATISTICS:
> > >
> > > a. In the last twenty five days, 1333 comments have been posted to the GA
> > > list by 75 people.
> > > b. 10 individuals accounted for 54% of the posts
> > > c. 15 individuals accounted for 66% of the posts
> > > d. 20 individuals accounted for 76% of the posts
> > > e. 25 individuals accounted for 82% of the posts
> > >
> > > If our ongoing efforts are to be meaningful, and if we wish to be regarded
> > > as a credible institution, we had better take action to increase overall
> > > participation in the GA.    I am advised by the DNSO Secretariat that the
> > > membership roster of the GA now totals in excess of 900 individuals - this
> > > means that over 90% of our members have chosen not to participate in recent
> > > discussions on the GA list.
> >
> > It's all the petty cat fights, methinks. All the blood and guts. The dogmatism.
> > Ad hominum attacks.  A bunch of little boys out in a field seeing who can pee
> > the farthest.  Sure as hell keeps me from taking much of it too seriously.
> >
> > Bill Lovell
> > http://cerebalaw.com
> >
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:45:30 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] TRADE MARKS & IP

At 11:17 pm +1000 4/28/01, Patrick Corliss wrote:
>Trade Marks & IP:  To consider and recommend policy improvements in relation
>to the use of domain names as a speech mechanism including, but not limited
>to, its use for advertising, promotion, protest and criticism particularly
>where such use may infringe on the rights or interests of other parties such
>as trade-mark holders.
>
>POSSIBLE AGENDA
>
>(1)    UDRP
>Definition of "cybersquatting".
>Relationship to "trade mark law".
>Common Law Trade Mark Rights.
>Are domains property?
>Dispute procedures & proofs.
>Pattern matching to show "bad faith".
>Speech - generic and protest words.
>Reverse domain name hijacking.
>Review of systemic faults or failures.
>Accountability of arbitrators etc.

Please add.

Confirmation of loss of "rights" to domain name of previous registrant when
they fail to pay renewal fee

Posting of complaint and response in their entirety to prevent arbitrators
from ignoring or changing evidence

Requirement for ICANN to police providers supplementary rules to ensure
they do not contravene UDRP rules or spirit of.

Removal of blanket "no liability" for ICANN and providers.

****

From http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/

"The WIPO Arbitration and Mediation Center and ICANN have together been
awarded the 2000 CPR Awards for Excellence in ADR, in the category for
Outstanding Practical Achievement. The award was given in recognition of
the Center's Domain Name Dispute Resolution Service, as a fair, economical
and effective approach to resolving domain name disputes."

Get me a bucket.

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We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare?
Get active: http://www.domain-owners.org http://www.tldlobby.com
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:09:32 -0700
From: Roeland Meyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] STATISTICS

> From: babybows.com [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 3:22 AM
> 
> STATISTICS:
> 
> a. In the last twenty five days, 1333 comments have been 
> posted to the GA
> list by 75 people.
> b. 10 individuals accounted for 54% of the posts
> c. 15 individuals accounted for 66% of the posts
> d. 20 individuals accounted for 76% of the posts
> e. 25 individuals accounted for 82% of the posts

If you look at the content, you will likely note that much of the recent
discussions center around inclusive root systems and name space theory. A
lot of it, trying to get down to gory entrails. Such levels of debate don't
belong on the main GA list, IMHO. I submit that, it is the main reason for
the past month's list volume (well ... that and questioning everyone's
integrity and past affiliations ... back to the stone-age ... election
process ... color of the sky ... and defense of same ... etc).

For the past three years there has been one thing missing, a concerted
effort to define a root-level registry and exactly what a TLD Service Level
Agreement (SLA) should look like. If we setup and take the lead on this, it
could provide the foundation for most of the other initiatives and reduce
the noise-level around here.
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:59:55 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Combination of activities

I write to correct an error of posting.
I also wish you would note that I made an error in sending to someone
who did
not want my mail. "I have a long list of things to learn and a short
brain to put it in".
If anyone has objection to receiving this, or does not follow the
concurrent logic, I apologize
and remain at your service

> > Subject: Re: Combination of activities
> >
> > I think I understand and will correct it.
> > It was list specific so I tried to tie it into
> > threads rather than URL's but as I did it I knew
> > what you say is right.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > > Eric, this is very useful, but would be more so if you
> > could reference
> > > specific URL's here rather than the front page:
> > >
> > > > The bypassing of Stakeholders
> > > >  http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
This is a posting by the chair of the GA it is found specifically at;
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc07/msg01506.html
by looking at Babybows posting under this subject
I know Mr. Younger and this is as mad as he gets!
> > > > The fake before cessation
> > > >   http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
This is a neat little response by a fellow named Sotiris who is the
chair of a great independant
working group found at; http://internetstakeholders.com/ which is a
continuance of the WG-Review which refuses to be killed by ICANN.
It is found under Versign Contracts/Policy at
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc07/msg01514.html
It shows quite clearly the tactics used to stifle argument.  to send
arguments into nowhere land. And it shows by silent admission acceptance
of  our correct position.
> > > > Afilias is Versign or worse a price fixing afiliation.
> > > >  http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
This is a reference to a piece written by yours truly that shows the
chilling association of major entrenched players in establishing
Afiliasco (BF).
It shows complete lack of integrity to granting license to already
competing members(probably monopolistic)of the business.

       Afilias ownership; dotINFO;

                      b. Registry Operator. Afilias, was formed on
September
       25, 2000 as a Delaware limited liability company and is
                      owned by a consortium of 19 ICANN accredited
Internet
       domain name registrars. Afilias was founded to operate
                      an unsponsored, unrestricted generic TLD registry.

       Afilias' members include:

                           1stDomain.net, a division of G+D
International LLC
                           Corporate Domains, Inc.
                           Domain Bank, Inc.
                           DomainInfo AB
                           DomainPeople Inc.
                           Domain Registration Services
                           Enter-Price Multimedia AG (EPAG)
                           Internet Council of Registrars (CORE)
                           interQ Inc.
                           NameSecure.com, Inc.
                           Netnames International Ltd.
                           Network Solutions, Inc. Registrar Operations
                           Polar Software Ltd d/b/a Signdomains.com
                           Procurement Services International (Japan),
Inc.
                           Register.com
                           Schlund + Partner AG
                           SiteName
                           Speednames, Inc.
                           Tucows, Inc.
 http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc07/msg01519.html  is the
actual link.

As you all can see someone far wiser than I was courteous enough to help
my lack of savy.  Golly gee but it is hard trying to keep up and learn
all this great stuff at the same time. I beg each of you to kneel down
and help a Newbie as this fine person did me. I make this whole
correction public because two of my friends said that others would learn
from my error, if I was boy enough to take it.

This work is a combination of way too many hours.  No one endorses my
opinions nor do I expect them to.  Shoot I do not even expect them to be
happy about being included on may mailing.  Difusion is the work of the
magician but I am finding that undoing the difusion is not a miracle but
just extremely hard work.
All on this mailing have contributed by your great works - websites and
posting- Sorry but you are unwilling coconspirators in setting ICANN
right.

This is posted to the GA List because the previous post was and needed
correction.

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:15:01 -0500
From: Bruce James <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ICANN The Movie!

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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:48:54 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Help! RE: .biz and .info

http://www.icann.org/tlds/

At its meeting in Melbourne on 13 March 2001, the ICANN Board adopted
the following resolutions:

RESOLVED [01.26] that in the absence of the request of any Board member
to the contrary based on policy considerations,
         the President is authorized to sign the posted agreements after
the conclusion of those seven days; and

Will a board member please invoke this provision for me?  I admit to
being an ill informed somewhat ignorant dot commoner internetstakeholder
netizen.

I confess to being one of those internet end users that ICANN was
developed to protect. My many mentors work hard but become frustrated at
my simplistic approaches.

On the policy issues I understand enough to know that I and many like me
are concerned, admittedly maybe wrongly,
regarding these two gTLD's.

Is it appropriate for Verisign (and the other established Registrars) to
be a controlling factor in one of the "New" gTLD's if the whole purpose
of having
them is to promote competition?

Is it all right for ICANN to approve dotBIZ when there already is one?
It seems like a lot of us small people may
get hurt by this idea.

I hope this does not cause undue distress but I cannot find a single
entity or person with power that is looking out for
us small guys. While they may be displaced I hope "our concerns" are
important to someone with power. I understand that the board
is made up of appointees but I hope there is at least one among you who
can empathize with us users.

Please keep in mind that while I am learning I have been using the
internet for just about a year, there are many like me and we need
caretakers to help us.

Sincerely,
Eric Dierker

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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:12:57 +0800
From: Brian Appleby <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Let tyrants take notice:

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The e-Bill of Rights

Few understand what the many may suffer.

Access to the Internet is an inalienable right of the people -- all the 
people.  Events now swirl and confuse even the hardiest of die-hard 
evangelists and prophets but we must collectively make one thing clear: we 
will not sit and watch the elite few wrest control from the people, we will 
not stand by as our rights are trampled and destroyed.  We have power in 
numbers and we have truth, justice, and freedom as wind in our sails.

We the people, in order to form a more perfect union of minds and hearts, 
mandate the need for freedom and fairness in our ability to enjoy the 
benefits of the on-line world of the Internet.  We mandate freedom of 
speech, freedom of access, and freedom of will to let the powers-that-be 
fully understand our needs and motivations.  We do not ask!  We are the 
people who the Internet serves.  We are where true power does reside.

We claim full rights to organize ourselves and politicize the issues we 
deem important.  We claim the right to enjoy the full protections offered 
to all for accessibility, use, and indeed dependence on the Internet as an 
important part of our lives and livelihoods.

Our right to accessibility includes the protection and un-fettered use of 
domain name system addresses which we hold and hold dearly as extensions of 
our personal, political, and commercial selves.

While we recognize and respect the traditional intellectual property laws 
and protections, we take exception to all attempts to modify or extend 
these traditions into newly mis-formed mutations which unfairly impinge 
upon the rights of individuals and the common masses.  We will not stand 
idly by and allow these actions to go un-noticed or allow the perpetrators 
to go un-punished.  We will fight if we need to fight.  We will win.

We are the people and we have spoken!

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</b><i>Few understand what the many may suffer.<br>
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</i></div>
Access to the Internet is an inalienable right of the people -- all the
people.&nbsp; Events now swirl and confuse even the hardiest of die-hard
evangelists and prophets but we must collectively make one thing clear:
we will not sit and watch the elite few wrest control from the people, we
will not stand by as our rights are trampled and destroyed.&nbsp; We have
power in numbers and we have truth, justice, and freedom as wind in our
sails. <br>
<br>
We the people, in order to form a more perfect union of minds and hearts,
mandate the need for freedom and fairness in our ability to enjoy the
benefits of the on-line world of the Internet.&nbsp; We mandate freedom
of speech, freedom of access, and freedom of will to let the
powers-that-be fully understand our needs and motivations.&nbsp; We do
not ask!&nbsp; We are the people who the Internet serves.&nbsp; We are
where true power does reside.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
We claim full rights to organize ourselves and politicize the issues we
deem important.&nbsp; We claim the right to enjoy the full protections
offered to all for accessibility, use, and indeed dependence on the
Internet as an important part of our lives and livelihoods.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Our right to accessibility includes the protection and un-fettered use of
domain name system addresses which we hold and hold dearly as extensions
of our personal, political, and commercial selves.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
While we recognize and respect the traditional intellectual property laws
and protections, we take exception to all attempts to modify or extend
these traditions into newly mis-formed mutations which unfairly impinge
upon the rights of individuals and the common masses.&nbsp; We will not
stand idly by and allow these actions to go un-noticed or allow the
perpetrators to go un-punished.&nbsp; We will fight if we need to
fight.&nbsp; We will win.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
We are the people and we have spoken!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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