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GA-DIGEST           Saturday, June 14 2003           Volume 01 : Number 1722

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:31:16 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 6:130     NZ   (NEW-ZEALAND)...The InterNAT (North American Transport) for .NZ ?

http://www.internetnz.net.nz/festival2003.html
"Lets see what Canada have done to implement thier NGI and Broadband programmes..."
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http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
6:71 NZL  (NEW-ZEALAND)
6:130     NZ   (NEW-ZEALAND)

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:25:54 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] WHOIS is NOT DNS...Why is ICANN involved in WHOIS ?

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-daigle-rfc954bis-00.txt
WHOIS Protocol Specification
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:05:01 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/ppml/1728.html
From: Richard Jimmerson ([email-masked])
Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 18:46:01 EDT
"All of ARIN's in-addr.arpa zones are now being published 
to the ARIN FTP site at ftp.arin.net/pub/zones."
====
What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

What does ARIN pay ICANN each year for each /8 ?

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space

Jim Fleming
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:36:53 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] IPv16...InterNAT...(North American Transport)...Wednesday-Friday, June 25-27: Summit ?...Montreal ? San Diego ?

IPv16...InterNAT...(North American Transport)...Wednesday-Friday, June 25-27: Summit

For IPv6...check with Microsoft, HP, Boeing and the U.S. DOD...

http://www.usipv6.com/

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space

011/8   May 93   DoD Intel Information Systems
015/8   Jul 94   Hewlett-Packard Company
022/8   May 93   Defense Information Systems Agency

055/8   Apr 95   Boeing Computer Services

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:22:16 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga]  Verisign to face fines of up to £100m for transferring sex.com?

"The long and steamy legal battle over who owns the internet address sex.com
has finally come to an end. The US Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from
cyber-squatter Stephen Cohen, who was claiming ownership of the domain name.
The ruling is expected to set a precedent about the ownership of website
addresses."

[snip]

"Verisign maintains that domain names are not legal property and as such it
cannot be held accountable for giving it away. If it loses, as legal experts
expect, Verisign would face a huge legal bill and fines of up to £100m."

Full story at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2987296.stm

Joanna

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:44:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Baptista <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga]  Verisign to face fines of up to £100m for transferring sex.com?

has anyone seen the ruling?

Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god

   {:::::::{::::::{:::::{::::{:::{::{:}::}:::}::::}:::::}::::::}:::::::}
   Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come
   to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
   ........................... Happy Thought for the day :-)

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Joanna Lane wrote:

> "The long and steamy legal battle over who owns the internet address sex.com
> has finally come to an end. The US Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from
> cyber-squatter Stephen Cohen, who was claiming ownership of the domain name.
> The ruling is expected to set a precedent about the ownership of website
> addresses."
>
> [snip]
>
> "Verisign maintains that domain names are not legal property and as such it
> cannot be held accountable for giving it away. If it loses, as legal experts
> expect, Verisign would face a huge legal bill and fines of up to £100m."
>
> Full story at:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2987296.stm
>
> Joanna
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 00:25:04 -0400
From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ga]  Verisign to face fines of up to £100m for transferring sex.com?

Who can still say that domain name registrants do not need a 
Constituency of their own in the GNSO?

- --Sotiris Sotiropoulos

Joanna Lane wrote:

>"The long and steamy legal battle over who owns the internet address sex.com
>has finally come to an end. The US Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from
>cyber-squatter Stephen Cohen, who was claiming ownership of the domain name.
>The ruling is expected to set a precedent about the ownership of website
>addresses."
>
>[snip]
>
>"Verisign maintains that domain names are not legal property and as such it
>cannot be held accountable for giving it away. If it loses, as legal experts
>expect, Verisign would face a huge legal bill and fines of up to £100m."
>
>Full story at:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2987296.stm
>
>Joanna
>
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But for history, the state and power are merely phenomena, just as for
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From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 04:55:11 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

Which "two companies" handle the ARIN out-source work ?

http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/fy2001/index.html

Several long-term projects were initiated this year with substantial work accomplished. They include:

  IN-ADDR.ARPA Zone File Cleanup. The process for reducing the size of the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone file by only including name servers for
/8 networks was outlined and begun. Relationships were established with two companies to provide independent servers for all ARIN
IN-ADDR zone files. Also, a new IN-ADDR.ARPA zone generator to correct existing erroneous data was released.

  =================================

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

> Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
>
>   Well Jim I think you already know the answer to your
> question.  They levy such ridiculous charges because
> as you recall ARIN and now or much more recently,
> Apnic could not raise enough funding via donations
> to remain in operation.
>
> Jim Fleming wrote:
>
> > http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/ppml/1728.html
> > From: Richard Jimmerson ([email-masked])
> > Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 18:46:01 EDT
> > "All of ARIN's in-addr.arpa zones are now being published
> > to the ARIN FTP site at ftp.arin.net/pub/zones."
> > ====
> > What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
> >
> > What does ARIN pay ICANN each year for each /8 ?
> >
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> >
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> ===============================================================
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 04:59:03 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/fy2001/index.html
Cash and cash equivalents...
June 30
2000.....$4,979,483
2001.....$8,675,906
2000.....$?????????

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

> Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
> 
>   Well Jim I think you already know the answer to your
> question.  They levy such ridiculous charges because
> as you recall ARIN and now or much more recently,
> Apnic could not raise enough funding via donations
> to remain in operation.
> 
> Jim Fleming wrote:
> 
> > http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/ppml/1728.html
> > From: Richard Jimmerson ([email-masked])
> > Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 18:46:01 EDT
> > "All of ARIN's in-addr.arpa zones are now being published
> > to the ARIN FTP site at ftp.arin.net/pub/zones."
> > ====
> > What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
> >
> > What does ARIN pay ICANN each year for each /8 ?
> >
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> >
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> Regards,
> 
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> "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
>     Pierre Abelard
> ===============================================================
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail [email-masked]
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:17:19 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] "constituency" and "GNSO"

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <[email-masked]>
To: "Joanna Lane" <[email-masked]>
> Who can still say that domain name registrants do not need a 
> Constituency of their own in the GNSO?
====================================

With all due respect, when you use terms like "constituency" and "GNSO" you are buying into a structure
that is pre-determined to be biased **against** the "domain name registrants".
That just helps to perpetuate "the Big Lie Society", which un-educated netizens have no idea they are endorsing.

Why would that be good for domain name registrants ?

Jim Fleming
http://www.DOT-BIZ.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:27:54 +0100
From: "Richard Henderson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] "constituency" and "GNSO"

I agree with Jim Fleming's analysis.

ICANN *uses* constituencies to control its own agenda.

Whenever it feels like it, ICANN just moves the goalposts.

*Consensus* in ICANN-land means listening to a constituency when it conforms
to ICANN agendas, and overruling constituencies when they don't ... all
justified by the catchphrase "consensus".

You would think that there was "consensus" on all kinds of policy decisions,
if you listened to ICANN's spin.

But in fact, what you have is the same insiders running the show,
accountable to no-one except DoC, who keep ICANN in place for the sake of
their own DoC agenda.

"Constituencies" are part of the ICANN game, and the danger is that you
legitimise the game by taking part... look how the 'participants' in ALAC
have been cited by ICANN to legitimise the expulsion of the elected At Large
Directors (who are the true representatives of the *real* At Large
constituency)

Then there is "consultation" and "open dialogue" and "responsiveness"... so
you get ICANN's Public Forums marginalised as "a joke" by Stuart Lynn; a
failure to engage in open and detailed dialogue almost always evident; and
crass lack of responsiveness (which I can testify to, as it has now been 395
days since I submitted relevant and serious questions to Dan Halloran, and
he has never even acknowledged receipt of my mail.) I asked Paul Twomey to
respond over this, and that was over 3 weeks ago... and *he* has never even
acknowledged my mail either. And yet he says ICANN needs to be more
"responsive"... is this all just a front for DoC, along with 'consensus' and
'constituencies'?

Those who help finance ICANN have fasttrack access to the insiders... those
who challenge ICANN or ask awkward questions are just ostracised,
marginalised, and ignored... look at the (costly) treatment of Karl
Auerbach...

I still wait for Dan Halloran's response to my questions about fraud and
ICANN's relationship to registrars... but even if it was not just me (and it
isn't)... even if it was an At Large committee, set up by ICANN itself
 look at their treatment of ALSC) ... would they listen?

The constituencies get sucked into a "consensus" fuzz, and then ICANN just
does what it wants. Unless there was a structure which guaranteed true
democratic representation - established from the bottom up - so that power
passed from the present ICANN power clique to real people, then the
"constituencies" remain just part of the ICANN process for self-perpetuating
its own Board, its own staff, and (of course) most importantly of all, the
interests of the vested interests for whom ICANN is really run.

Yrs,

Richard Henderson

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Fleming <[email-masked]>
To: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <[email-masked]>; Joanna Lane
<[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: [ga] "constituency" and "GNSO"

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Joanna Lane" <[email-masked]>
> > Who can still say that domain name registrants do not need a
> > Constituency of their own in the GNSO?
> ====================================
>
> With all due respect, when you use terms like "constituency" and "GNSO"
you are buying into a structure
> that is pre-determined to be biased **against** the "domain name
registrants".
> That just helps to perpetuate "the Big Lie Society", which un-educated
netizens have no idea they are endorsing.
>
> Why would that be good for domain name registrants ?
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.DOT-BIZ.com
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:08:52 -0500
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

Now when will ICANN demand that NSOL upgrade its ancient software so that nameserver changes to
.COM and .NET are near-instantaneous just like .INFO, .BIZ and such? Are they still running their
stuff on mainframes or what?

I coded up a perfectly nice shared registry system for the inclusive namespace in 3 months
that works better than their stuff.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
To: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

> Which "two companies" handle the ARIN out-source work ?
>
> http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/fy2001/index.html
>
> Several long-term projects were initiated this year with substantial work accomplished. They include:
>
>   IN-ADDR.ARPA Zone File Cleanup. The process for reducing the size of the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone file by only including name servers
for
> /8 networks was outlined and begun. Relationships were established with two companies to provide independent servers for all ARIN
> IN-ADDR zone files. Also, a new IN-ADDR.ARPA zone generator to correct existing erroneous data was released.
>
>   =================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
>
>
> > Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
> >
> >   Well Jim I think you already know the answer to your
> > question.  They levy such ridiculous charges because
> > as you recall ARIN and now or much more recently,
> > Apnic could not raise enough funding via donations
> > to remain in operation.
> >
> > Jim Fleming wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/ppml/1728.html
> > > From: Richard Jimmerson ([email-masked])
> > > Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 18:46:01 EDT
> > > "All of ARIN's in-addr.arpa zones are now being published
> > > to the ARIN FTP site at ftp.arin.net/pub/zones."
> > > ====
> > > What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
> > >
> > > What does ARIN pay ICANN each year for each /8 ?
> > >
> > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > >
> > > Jim Fleming
> > > http://www.IPv8.info
> > >
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> > Regards,
> >
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> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> >     Pierre Abelard
> > ===============================================================
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail [email-masked]
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:52:14 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] "when will ICANN demand that NSOL upgrade its ancient software" ?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
> Now when will ICANN demand that NSOL upgrade its ancient software so that nameserver changes to
> .COM and .NET are near-instantaneous just like .INFO, .BIZ and such? Are they still running their
> stuff on mainframes or what?
====

John,

With all due respect, the plan is to **not** have ICANN or NSOL (Verisign) involved in the .COM or .NET upgrade.
If you recall, .NET is going to be moved to another company, just like .ORG. (Staffed by the same people of course)
The .COM "upgrade" then builds out from the existing (and working/limping) .COM "ancient software" (toy/legacy/etc.).
You do not likely want to have people unskilled in the new technology doing the "upgrade". They can run the old stuff.
The IPv16 build-out, will not be handled by amateurs.

http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg21064.html
"US Defense Department formally adopts IPv6"

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?

> Now when will ICANN demand that NSOL upgrade its ancient software so that nameserver changes to
> .COM and .NET are near-instantaneous just like .INFO, .BIZ and such? Are they still running their
> stuff on mainframes or what?
>
> I coded up a perfectly nice shared registry system for the inclusive namespace in 3 months
> that works better than their stuff.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
>
>
> > Which "two companies" handle the ARIN out-source work ?
> >
> > http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/fy2001/index.html
> >
> > Several long-term projects were initiated this year with substantial work accomplished. They include:
> >
> >   IN-ADDR.ARPA Zone File Cleanup. The process for reducing the size of the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone file by only including name servers
> for
> > /8 networks was outlined and begun. Relationships were established with two companies to provide independent servers for all
ARIN
> > IN-ADDR zone files. Also, a new IN-ADDR.ARPA zone generator to correct existing erroneous data was released.
> >
> >   =================================
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
> > To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
> >
> >
> > > Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
> > >
> > >   Well Jim I think you already know the answer to your
> > > question.  They levy such ridiculous charges because
> > > as you recall ARIN and now or much more recently,
> > > Apnic could not raise enough funding via donations
> > > to remain in operation.
> > >
> > > Jim Fleming wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/ppml/1728.html
> > > > From: Richard Jimmerson ([email-masked])
> > > > Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 18:46:01 EDT
> > > > "All of ARIN's in-addr.arpa zones are now being published
> > > > to the ARIN FTP site at ftp.arin.net/pub/zones."
> > > > ====
> > > > What does ARIN charge per year for IN-ADDR.ARPA domain names ?
> > > >
> > > > What does ARIN pay ICANN each year for each /8 ?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > > >
> > > > Jim Fleming
> > > > http://www.IPv8.info
> > > >
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> > >     Pierre Abelard
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