Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1705
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GA-DIGEST            Friday, May 23 2003            Volume 01 : Number 1705

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:20:37 -0400
From: "John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D." <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] A Museum Riddle

There is a monument to the value of taxonomic domain name systems at:

http://isleofman.motorcycle.museum

Today's extra credit challenge is for contestants to inspect the website at
that address and answer the following questions.

What relationship does the website bear to anything having to do with the
Isle of Man and motorcycles?

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:07:08 +0200
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A Museum Riddle

On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:20:37AM -0400,
 John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D. <[email-masked]> wrote 
 a message of 18 lines which said:

> Today's extra credit challenge is for contestants to inspect the website at
> that address and answer the following questions.
> 
> What relationship does the website bear to anything having to do with the
> Isle of Man and motorcycles?

Every motorcycle fan knows about the Tourist Trophy...
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 08:34:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Kirikos <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Welcome to the Real World -- 3 Verisign trivia questions

Hello,

Some questions, the answers to which folks might find interesting....

1) What is the out-of-pocket expense to Verisign for Network Solutions
to order a WLS slot on EVERY existing .com name on day 1 of WLS, for
its own account?

2) What is the out-of-pocket expense to Verisign for Network Solutions
to register EVERY .com domain that is 20-characters long or less, for
its own account?

3) What's stopping NSI from doing the above?

Possible Answers? Scroll below....
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Answer to #1: Should be $0 ? Whatever the wholesale price of WLS, it's
only money moving within Verisign (from NSI to VGRS), so the out-of
pocket expense is $0.

Answer to #2: Should be $10 million or less per year. As per #1, even
though there are approximately an uncountable (37 to the exponent 20,
approximately) number of domains 20 characters or shorter, the out of
pocket expense is ONLY the variable portion of fees that leaves the
organization and is paid out to ICANN (which has a proposed budget of
approximately $10 million). Even with a 99.99999999% share of all
registrations with this tactic, the variable expense can be no higher
than ICANN's total budget. Paying the $6/yr per name to itself (i.e.
NSI to VGRS) doesn't cost anything. 

Answer to #3: They don't have the audacity to do it, just yet? Nothing
else is stopping them, from what I can tell (registrars are allowed to
buy names for themselves). Obviously, #1 and #2 do not create a level
playing field with registrars or other registrants, and there are thus
policy implications for ICANN and government regulators to better
control or split this abusive monopolist.

Given Verisign seems to want to wild-card DNS for unregistered domains
to monetize all type-in traffic, doing #2 seems to be an alternative
way to accomplish the same (with a maximum cost of $10 million/yr,
easily recouped from pay-per-click fees). They can even sell some of
the names (those earning less than say $35/yr in pay-per-click
revenues) via their Name Store suckers ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H partners. :)

And if NSI has a WLS slot on every domain, AND "accidentally" hits the
delete button on all 10 million or so domains registered through it
(can't do this for domains at non-Verisign registrars, though), it'll
get to own all the domains whose owners don't pay their $185 RGP fee.

As Morpheus might say, "Welcome to the Real World."

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
http://www.kirikos.com/

P.S. Some might say, that it would take a lot of bandwidth to register
36^20 domains, via any connection to the registry under "equal access
terms". Beware of any attempts for the registry to enhance RRP with
"Wildcard Permuations Bulk Add" as a new RRP command, that allows
registrars to bulk add all combos of names in 1 step, and return a list
of only those domains that *didn't* succeed. ;) Why would VGRS enhance
RRP with "Wildcard Permutations Bulk Add"? Well, they are a world-class
organization trying to create a "better customer experience"..... ;)

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:37:37 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 7:243     MUSEUM...IN-ADDR.MUSEUM exists ?

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
7:243     MUSEUM
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; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> in-addr.museum any
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2387
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;in-addr.museum. IN ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
in-addr.museum. 86400 IN A 195.7.77.20

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
museum. 86400 IN NS ns1.getty.edu.
museum. 86400 IN NS ns-ext.vix.com.
museum. 86400 IN NS ns.icann.org.
museum. 86400 IN NS nic.icom.org.
museum. 86400 IN NS nic.museum.

;; Query time: 228 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
;; WHEN: Thu May 22 10:16:32 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 170
================================

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:08:05 +0200
From: Thomas Roessler <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] [fwd] [council] Resolution (from: [email-masked])

This was adopted unanimously on today's GNSO Council telephone
conference.

Regards,
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- ----- Forwarded message from Philip Sheppard <[email-masked]> -----

From: Philip Sheppard <[email-masked]>
To: "Council (list)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:41:09 +0200
Subject: [council] Resolution
Organization: AIM
X-Spam-Level: 

In response to the question asked of it by the Board, the GNSO
council concludes: Expansion of the gTLD namespace should be a
bottom-up approach with names proposed by the interested parties to
ICANN. Expansion should be demand-driven. Furthermore, there should
be a set of objective criteria to be met in any future expansion.
The development of this set of objective criteria should be the
subject of a new Policy Development Process (PDP). These ideas are
expanded in the a report together with the responses of the GNSO
Constituencies and the ALAC which will be forwarded to the Board in
June.

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:00:52 -0700
From: "Jay Westerdal" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] UDRP dead? Is the dot-biz registry typosquatting on  AT&T 's trademarks?

Looks like Neustar's wildcard resolution thing is not landing
people on a looksmart page anymore. They appear to be turning
it off.

> dig asfdsdfadsf.us

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> asfdsdfadsf.us
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; res_nsend to server default -- 65.39.221.18: Operation timed out

- -----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of J-F C.
(Jefsey) Morfin
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:53 AM
To: Elisabeth Porteneuve; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [ga] UDRP dead? Is the dot-biz registry typosquatting on
AT&T 's trademarks?

At 23:24 20/05/03, Elisabeth Porteneuve wrote:
>Is this the beginning of the end of Internet?

It would be good news :-)

Elisabeth, wild card were first used fist to call ".arpa" from outside.
Does anyone recall "please login: ARPA"...
then FRAARPA. You should ask Michel Feuvrier. He probably left FT a  long
ago?

One has sometimes to accept that the DNS is not what STD013 says (naming,
name server and resolver systems) but a query protocol which needs a
version 2. In particular to support reasonable pattern matching and not
only stupid wild cards. Do you recall my dispute with Mike about
".sys"  (documented somewhere in ICANN files before Yokohama). Delaying
will never address the needs.

You know what? May be in a couple of years, ICANN will realize how a
business and a service network works :-) ... jfc

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:52:33 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 1:60 MONTREAL...Adding New Registries and International Top Level Domain Names

http://www.isoc.org/whatsnew/itlds.html
"Adding New Registries and International Top Level Domain Names"
"The Board of Trustees of the Internet Society (ISOC) accepted this proposal in principle at its June 1996 meeting in Montreal."
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http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-21apr03.htm
Details on June 2003 ICANN Meeting to Be Held in Montréal,Canada
=====================

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info
1:60 MONTREAL

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:45:14 +0200
From: DNSO Secretariat <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] mp3 recording of the GNSO council teleconf

Please find the mp3 recording of the GNSO council teleconf held on Thursday
May 22, 2003 

http://www.dnso.org/dnso/mp3/20030522.GNSO-council.mp3

Happy listening
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:49:58 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] "...administration of the IP6.ARPA domain..."

Why would people want to pay $25,000 per year for someone to tell them they are block 5 vs. 6 ?

"...administration of the IP6.ARPA domain..."

====
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail-archives/lir-wg/2003/msg00292.html
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-261.txt
IPv6 Address Space Management
Paul Wilson
Raymond Plzak
Axel Pawlik 
"...administration of the IP6.ARPA domain..."
=============================================================
Via IN-ADDR.[TLD] zones, the expanded address space can be managed...
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
...in some cases, that can be low-cost, or no-cost
http://www.New.Net
http://www.Name-Space.com
http://www.MoxNames.com

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info

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