Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1683
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GA-DIGEST             Monday, May 5 2003             Volume 01 : Number 1683

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Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 10:21:19 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: 50,000 .SHOP names ???Re: [ga] 0:242     SHOP...Monday 05/05/03

http://www.opensrs.org/archives/discuss-list/0010/0135.html

From: Ross Wm. Rader ([email-masked])
Domain Direct got it's start late in '96 or so pre-registering "new" gtlds 
that were supposed to have been created by the IAHC/CORE process. 

I'm thanking my lucky stars that we did this gratis, otherwise I'd have 
50,000 or so people screaming at me today about their .shop 
registrations... 
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From: <[email-masked]>
To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] 0:242 SHOP...Monday 05/05/03

> but www.sex.shop , www.health.shop and many others has been renewed till
> 2005
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 3:08 PM
> Subject: [ga] 0:242 SHOP...Monday 05/05/03
> 
> 
> > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> > 0:242     SHOP
> > =================
> > http://www.iahc.org/press/press-final.html
> > "SEVEN NEW TOP LEVEL DOMAIN NAMES ARE ADDED FOR INTERNET ADDRESSES AND UP
> TO 28 NEW REGISTRARS PLANNED"
> > http://www.iahc.org/draft-iahc-recommend-00.html
> > Final Report...
> > http://www.gtld-mou.org/docs/iahc.html
> > "Modification of the gTLD .store to .shop following a public request for
> comments reviewing the chosen names"
> >
> > http://new.chat.new.net/viewtopic.php?t=118
> > DAY 10 (Monday 05/05/03)
> > .SHOP
> > =================
> > Registrars...
> > http://www.easyspace.com/
> > http://www.BulkRegister.com
> > http://www.RegisterFly.com
> > http://www.DollarDomainName.com
> > http://www.thepricedomain.com/
> >
> > http://new.chat.new.net/viewtopic.php?t=165
> >             Below are a sample of expired .SHOP domains scheduled to be
> released Monday May 5, 2003:
> >
> >             videogame.shop
> >             candle.shop
> >             accessory.shop
> >             reise.shop
> >             alpha.shop
> >             homebrew.shop
> >             yahoo.shop
> >             strategy.shop
> >             bid.shop
> >             record.shop
> >             247.shop
> >             cell.shop
> >             itv.shop
> >             specialty.shop
> >             search.shop
> >             jewellery.shop
> >             technology.shop
> >             discount.shop
> >             florist.shop
> >             name.shop
> >             shoppingcart.shop
> >             photo.shop
> >             websitedesign.shop
> >             girls.shop
> >             digital.shop
> >             jewerly.shop
> >             jewelery.shop
> >             camel.shop
> >             msn.shop
> >             artsandcrafts.shop
> >             bakery.shop
> >             coke.shop
> >             bikini.shop
> >             collector.shop
> >             digicam.shop
> >             motorcycle.shop
> >             condom.shop
> >             download.shop
> >             closeout.shop
> >             apparel.shop
> >             videogames.shop
> >             drugstore.shop
> >             palm.shop
> >             magic.shop
> >             hot.shop
> >             dreamcar.shop
> >             brasil.shop
> >             condoms.shop
> >             privacy.shop
> >             sun.shop
> >             entertainment.shop
> >             jeweler.shop
> >             property.shop
> >             gladys.shop
> >             suv.shop
> >             africa.shop
> >             bmw.shop
> >             mercedes.shop
> >             liquor.shop
> >             cheap.shop
> >             stpats.shop
> >             rugs.shop
> >             binoculars.shop
> >             teen.shop
> >             furniture.shop
> >             guitar.shop
> >             windsurf.shop
> >             lingerie.shop
> >             big.shop
> >             herbs.shop
> >             vegetarian.shop
> >             cdr.shop
> >             apple.shop
> >             ozarkcrafts.shop
> >             world.shop
> >             sewing.shop
> >             sweat.shop
> >             vw.shop
> >             cellphone.shop
> >             bulbs.shop
> >             abath.shop
> >             lightbulb.shop
> >             thegolf.shop
> >             polka.shop
> >             boys.shop
> >             dkny.shop
> >             bananarepublic.shop
> >             bowling.shop
> >             israeltravel.shop
> >             eyedoctors.shop
> >             stamp.shop
> >             skiing.shop
> >             snack.shop
> >             onestop.shop
> >             light.shop
> >             webdomains.shop
> >             eyedoctor.shop
> >             brazil.shop
> >             golfshirts.shop
> >             smile.shop
> >             gucci.shop
> >
> ======================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> > 0:242     SHOP
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Yue You Fidget <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] jeff williams is not really real

Scroll to the bottom of the list for Jeff Williams lies and antics in 2003.

In response to the following rants from Jeff (Zombie-Kook) Williams find below some appropriate information: 

FROM: Jason Watkins 
DATE: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) 
TO: <[email-masked]>   [atlarge-discuss] Reminder: Jeff Williams is mentally Ill 

Just a reminder and a repost of the Jeff Williams FAQ.  I see that Jeff Williams has been writing not as an individual, but in the plural again.  Using phrases like "At such time as we [INEGroup] have done a complete review" This is just a reminder that INEG group does not exist, that Jeff Williams is not to be taken seriously, and that he speaks only for himself and not for a group of over 100,000 people.  Frankly it is sad, and I wish he would get help.  Regular readers will ignore his inane ramblings, but new readers may be tricked into replying. Among the "nutsy-cukoo" things he has said in the last few weeks are: That he met personally with President George Bush in Waco Texas and that he is having secret email conversations with government officials. Here is the rest of the FAQ: 
Jeff Williams' FAQ. (99/01) 
- -- 1. Who is Jeff Williams? Jeffrey A. Williams,  has claimed in postings to various lists: 
- -- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC 
- -- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC. 
- -- to be an ex-IBM Fellow, 
- -- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School 
- -- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law 
- -- to have served as a judge for 7 years 
- -- to be a member of the IETF -- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks 
- -- to be the author of two books and is working on a third 
- -- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users 
- -- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas 
- -- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war 
- -- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service) 
- -- Graduate of Naval Staff & War College 
- -- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps -- to own 8% of eBay 

However, 
- -- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind. 
- -- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from  'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group <http://www.ieg-america.com/>, became aware of Jeff's use of their name. 
- -- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff. Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter. 
- -- 2. Why should I take care in sending private email to Jeff Williams? He may post it to the list. Ironically, in his postings of others' private email so far the content has been counter-productive to his reputation and credibility. You should presume any email to him will posted to the list. 
- -- 3. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams? 
http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/03504.html
http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html
http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html
http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html
http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html     

Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2002, regarding his exploits: 
1.  worked at CMA (an IT consulting firm) developing management principals (his spelling not mine) 
2.  worked for the United States government on a program called Krypto (must be top secret because a Google search reveals only that it was the dog companion of Superboy) 
3.  worked for Systems Administration, Networking, and Security Institute (sans.org) on BIND security 
4.  worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) 
5.  worked for the Vietnam Veterans Association 
6.  worked for the Dallas Businessmen's Association (a Google search revealed no such organization) 
7.  worked for the United States Department of Defense as a project coordinator on the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) 
8.  worked for the World Trade Organization on General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) 
9.  worked on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) 
10.  attended the Economic Summit meeting held by President George. W. Bush in Waco, TX, in August, 2002 
11.  worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for six (6) years on Internet Protocol Version 6 
12.  flew F-4, F-14, F-18 jets for the United States Marine Corps but is now retired
13.  is a private pilot
14.  to have served as a county judge for 1 year 8 months
15.  has a law degree and specializes in trademark, business, and antitrust law
16.  given award as "Outstanding Texan" by Texas Chamber of Commerce in 1998 (Google search reveals Chamber of Commerce are by city only; there is no Texas State Chamber of Commerce)
16.  performs volunteer police work (and carries a gun!) once a month in the state of Texas
17.  claims membership in both Texas State Republican Party and Texas State Democratic Party Caucuses
18.  his family has six attorneys on retainer, two for him, two for his elderly parents, and one each for his daughters
19.  teaches speed reading and basic reading courses to underprivileged children and adults (where does he find the time to do all this and still rant online?) 
20.  claims to have US$4555 in a trust account held for icannatlarge.org but will not reveal name of bank nor provide any proof of account (and says that he can raise US$100K more with little effort)
21.  is working with Richard Clark, Chairman of the U.S. Critical Infrastructure Protection Board (Cybersecurity Czar) and Andrew Card, Chief of Staff of U.S. President Geo. W. Bush Whitehouse Administration, on cyber security issues
22.  has over 23 years experience starting up companies including non-profit corporations
23.  intimidated and threatened to report a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org to the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the F.B.I. for making a comment about President Bush (he claims to be on speaking terms with department managements)
  
The above items are directly from his OWN statements:
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00457.html 
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00619.html 
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00657.html 
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0209/msg00584.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00641.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00654.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00675.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01053.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00106.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00200.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00303.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00313.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00410.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02724.html 
Some other sources for the "real" Jeff Williams:
http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/

Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2003, regarding his exploits:
1.  alleges to be in the United States Government Federal Registry but a federal registry does not exist; although there is a Federal Register it has no association with any Jeff Williams persona regarding related fields or topics near what the Zombi/Kook rants (find out for yourself at http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html)
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0301/msg00258.
2.  claims to be a wireless internet provider for China although his fictitious company is not remotely connected with ISP and there is no reference anywhere through Google that mentions INEG and China in the same search except for postings by Jeff Williams (which means he references himself as proof he exists)
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html 
3.  seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake corporation (from 127k to 129k) as stated by his signature
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html 
4.  accused a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org of cheating the outcome of several internet based elections and when challenged he only made more unfounded accusations and provided no proof
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00400.html 
5.  always talks about members of INEG attending various internet related meetings but nobody ever sees them or speaks with them or even finds anyone wearing an INEG name tag , and Jeff always says "they are too busy to meet with you"
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00247.html 
6.  claims to be one of the originators of ARPANET
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00331.html
7.  claims to be an employee of the United States Government and threatened to sue another member as well as inform both U.S. and Canadian authorities of alleged illegal activities (the member was charged by Jeff of supposedly mailing the membership list without authority)
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00082.html
8.  claims to have over $6700 in funds for ICANNatLarge organization but does not provide proof the money exists
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00192.html
9.  claims to be an informant for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (F.B.I.) of the United States Government
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00451.html
10.  talks about the openness and transparency of his alleged INEGroup but has never revealed even one member's name and, if pressured, will state that one can get the membership list via a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by the United States Government law allowing access to records of Federal agencies (but he states that it is available from the FEC which is the Federal Election Commission which has nothing to do with INEGroup members)
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00466.html 
11.  claims to have over 11K members in INEGroup from mainland China
see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00068.html

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Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 07:01:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Baptista <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Baptista to the ICANN hords: I must respectfully decline my nomination

Here we go again .... I have once again declined a nomination to yet
another group designed to save the failed U.S. government experiment
called ICANN.  I wish I would be consulted first before people nominate me
for anything - it would save on the embarrassment.

regards
joe baptista

Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god

      .ufo domain registration http://www.register.ufo

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 06:54:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Baptista <[email-masked]>
To: At Large Discuss <[email-masked]>
Cc: Enza Anderson <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Baptista to the ICANN hords: I must respectfully
    decline my nomination

Dear @Large Members of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers.

It has come to my attention that I have been nominated to the panel of the
ICANN at large soap opera.  I must respectfully decline and have provided
my reasons in detail.

As many of you know I have been involved in ICANN - namely as a member of
the General Assembly of the Domain Name Supporting Organization, a unit
of the ICANN monster.  And from the begining I have made it very clear
what my position was with respect to ICANN.  I predicted the Clintons
administrations failure to take control of the internet and so my
predictions have come to pass.  I think my nomination and decline is
indicative of this.

First their are some personal reasons why I don't want any association
with the panel.  I direct the memberships attention to the following URL
of interest:

	http://www.icannatlarge.com/voting.html

Many good people have been nominated.  Unfortunately the nominations are
scattered with such notable personalities as ester dyson, former chair of
icann and Amadeu Abril i Abril another icann insider.  I must stress that
I am a person of standards and the possibility that dyson or amadeu might
be elected to the icann atlarge panel with me is my worst nightmare.  I
don't suffer fools and charletains well.

Dyson and amadeu have built their reputations on fiction, nonsense and
other sorted crapola.  They are as ICANN is - a fiction and therefore not
worthy of being in the same room with me.  The best I can say is that I
find ester sexy and amadeu is a big of a comedian - which makes me laugh -
but thats about all i can say they have of value to offer this world in my
not so humble opinion.

I have built my reputation on protocol not false pretensions like these
icann baboons.  Protocol can not be converted into bullshit, protocol is
one of the building blocks of communications.  ICANNs attempt to
politicize protocols was insane from the beginning.  I've said this year
after year after year.  I hope some of you were listening.

Also one must consider my position.  I predicted ICANN would fail and the
U.S. government would end up with a mess on their hand - 300 million users
and no where to go - and so this has and is passing.  We are watching the
end and the end serves me.  This is in my opinion a conflict of interest
if i were to be elected to the atlarge panel.  It would be inappropriate
to serve the very thing I came to kill.

I tell you now that the only naming system which will survive will be the
inclusive namespace.  We are the only place which will pay attention to
the internet community.  ICANN's much too busy fucking it all up and
turning the dns into a multilevel marketing organization to squeeze every
penny out of every human who uses the network.

People - pay attention.  The internet is controlled by end users "THAT
MEANS YOU" and not centralized government structures like ICANN and the
NTIA.  I will not be a party to this myth that ICANN or the U.S.
government is in charge of the internet naming systems.  We have proven it
is not and no amount of civil service goobleygook is going to change that
fact.

When the Clinton administration gave it's blessing to ICANN they didn't
know that it's monopoly was toothless.  They assumed they had a controlled
monopoly because the technicians lied to them.  How many times has the
european union wispered in dark corners the fatal words that the icann
monopoly is a fiction in the U.S. governments lexicon.

If you people want a place where your voices will be heard - it's name is
the inclusive namespace - NOT ICANN - because frankly folks - where ICANN
can't we CAN.

People - I have no interest in representing you in some vain attempt or
hope that ICANN will pay attention.  It will not.  Those are the facts.

I have however taken the opportunity of asking my friend Enza Anderson to
join the group.  Enza is a member of the political community in Toronto
Canada and is fully qualified to interface here.  I think she's the only
one who can save ICANN.

She's a briliant political strategist and with my assistance she can cut
through the bullshit.  Enza is a Supermodel by trade and a leader in the
Canadian and American drag queen community. And as an added benefit she
has legs and personality.

In a recent poll of the New Democratic Party leadership race by one of
Canada's leading newspaper chains Enza got top billing as the candidate
most favoured by the Canadian population as a potential leader.

But it's up to Enza if she wants to spare the time to familiarize herself
with the issues.  She's a busy girl with her recent campaign in Toronto
and my recommendation is that she monitor this group to familiarize
herself with the issues and only bother with it if she sees the
posibility for salvation.  I have said on many occassions in the General
Assemble of ICANN that the only people qualified to save ICANN and this
failed US government fisaco are drag queens.  Well folks here's your
chance to make it happen.

Do yourselves a favour people - move on.  ICANN and the U.S. government
insanity to take over the domain name system is dead - long live the
inclusive namespace - so lets all move on to better things people - let's
evolve - one baby step at a time.

... and in the memory of my beloved friend douglas adams I say onto all of
you "So long and thanks for all the fish".

cheers
joe baptista
administrator to .GOD & .SATAN
http://www.dot-god.com/

Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god

another useless fact ....
Eighty percent of the world's food crops are pollinated by insects.

Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 17:10:06 +0100
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: @LARGE ELECTION: you were nominated

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this a private e-mail for Joe Baptista.
- ----- icannatlarge.org -----

Dear @large Member,
you have been nominated for the election to the Panel of "icannatlarge.org". Your
nomination has been seconded. We would be very pleased if you accepted that nomination
in responding to this mail to our mailing list. Your response will be published both on
the http://icannatlarge.org official site and on the http://icannatlarge.com private
Forum.

The Polling Committee organizing this vote wishes to recall that this Panel is to be
elected for a period up to one year (the Panel may sovereignly decide to reorganize).
Its main task will be to help structuring our  icannatlarge community. It will be
helped by the guidelines provided by the responses given by the Members to the
questions attched to ballot. they freely decided themselves to ask each
other thesequestions at the occasion of this vote.

Experience of a first Panel has shown that action is possible, organization easy
enough, but what is required is a dedicated and loyal commitment by the
Panelists.

If you accept this nomination, what we do hope, please provide us with the URL of a
page where you will introduce yourself and your propositions to our community. This URL
will be listed on our http://icannatlarge.org site, on the http://icannatlarge.com
Forum and on the ballot.

Sincerely yours.

The Polling Committee.
Eric Dierker
Jefsey Morfin
Bruce Young

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Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 07:27:53 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Fw: Upon this NEW.NET we will build our .CHURCH ?

Subject: Upon this NEW.NET we will build our .CHURCH ?

> Upon this NEW.NET we will build our .CHURCH ?
> 
> http://www.New.Net
> 
> baptist.church  ??
> evangelical.church ??
> methodist.church ??
> presbyterian.church ??
> protestant.church ??
> unitarian.church ??
> 
> ==================================
> catholic.church
> Ashley Jobson
> [email-masked]
> 
> PO Box 3225
> Norman Park
> Brisbane, QLD 4170
> AU
> +7.33999997
> 
> Record created on 2001-06-19T05:18:32Z
> Record expires on 2003-06-19T05:18:32Z
> ==================================
> christian.church
> Kendall Dawson
> [email-masked]
> 
> 10 High Street
> #3
> Rockport, MA 01966
> US
> +1.9783761045
> 
> Record created on 2001-06-19T05:48:25Z
> Record expires on 2003-06-19T05:48:25Z
> ==================================
> lutheran.church
> Robert Stoddard
> [email-masked]
> 
> 4188 Ashcroft Ave.
> 
> Castle Rock, CO 80104
> US
> +1.3036600967
> 
> Record created on 2001-06-19T14:53:37Z
> Record expires on 2004-06-19T14:53:37Z
> ===========================================
> unity.church
> Richard Thrower
> [email-masked]
> 
> 3747 Bogert Trail
> 
> Palm Springs, CA 92264
> US
> +1.7603201552
> 
> Record created on 2001-10-23T01:48:00Z
> Record expires on 2005-10-23T01:48:00Z
> ===========================================
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 07:43:01 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 7:195     CHURCH

Routing around the I* society...(small s...aka The Big Lie Society)...

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
7:195     CHURCH

http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=church
NSpace : Name.Space : 209.48.2.11
VueDig Results : Answer = 6 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 6. 
church. 1D IN NS NS10.AUTONO.NET.
church. 1D IN NS ROOT3.AUTONO.NET.
church. 1D IN NS NS10.ROOT-ZONE.NET.
church. 1D IN NS A.TLD-SERVERS.NET.
church. 1D IN NS B.TLD-SERVERS.NET.
church. 1D IN NS NS.AUTONO.NET.

Nnet : New.net Inc : 206.132.100.42
VueDig Results : Answer = 4 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 4. 
church. 5M IN NS tld3.newdotnet.net.
church. 5M IN NS tld4.newdotnet.net.
church. 5M IN NS tld1.newdotnet.net.
church. 5M IN NS tld2.newdotnet.net.
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http://www.Name-Space.com
http://www.New.Net

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info
7:195     CHURCH

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Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 21:39:25 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] ALAC on ccNSO 

Vittorio,

You wrote:  "The Interim At Large Advisory Committee supports the idea of a 
Country
Code Names Supporting Organization as devised in the Report [referring to the 
Fifth Supplemental Implementation Report of ICANN's Evolution and Reform 
Committee]".  http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00247.html

May I ask why the ALAC is endorsing the ERC/ccNSO Assistance Group 
recommendations instead of the "Resolutions adopted by the ccTLD Managers 
meeting in Rio" posted at 
http://www.wwtld.org/meetings/Rio/ccNSO_resolution.html ?

How did you arrive at your conclusion?

In your view, why should users support a proposition that calls for three 
top-down appointed members selected by the Nominating Committee to meddle in 
the affairs of this SO?  Do you honestly believe that users are in favor of 
these top-down mechanisms (such as you have in the ALAC)?

By the way, why did you agree to five top-down appointees being placed on the 
ALAC?  ...or do you just automatically agree to everything that ICANN imposes?

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