Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1665
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GA-DIGEST           Monday, April 14 2003           Volume 01 : Number 1665

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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:33:34 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] The Mystery of the Missing TLD Evaluation Reports

At 5:23 PM +0100 4/13/03, Richard Henderson wrote:

>How can all ICANN constituencies (and other people interested in DNS issues)
>make informed judgements about the development of further TLDs, when the
>Evaluation Process is handled in this manner?

You sound has though your actually expecting to have some sort of input
about the way ICANN's run from here on in?

Fwaaaarp.

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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:02:38 -0400
From: "John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D." <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [centr-ga] Re: [nc-deletes] FW: [council] Concerns Regarding Report of DeletesTask Force 

The comments are worth considering for a few days, but certainly would have
been more helpful if they were submitted during the comment period.

There is one error where the comments are seriously misguided, however, and
that relates to expiration of a domain name during litigation.

To understand this central flaw in much of the comments, one must remember
what a domain name is.

A domain name is the incident of a contract between the registrar and the
registrant.  Specifically, the registrant contracts for a term of
registration.  At the end of that term, it is not as though the "domain name"
expires.  It is the contract - the basis for the domain name's existence -
which expires.  The domain name ceases to be.

Sometimes failing to appreciate that fact makes people think that a
"re-registered" domain name is the "same" domain name.  It is not.  It is the
creature of an entirely new contract.  The domain name may have the same
alphanumeric sequence as a formerly existing domain name, but it is most
certainly not the "same" domain name.

Now, here is why that matters to some of the artificial concerns raised in
the ICANN staff review.

It is certainly true that a registrar may be required to lock a domain name
during litigation, and indeed, the registrars are required to lock domain
names when they receive notice of litigation.

However, ICANN staff seriously errs by telling this task force that the
registrar would be required to maintain the domain name in existence merely
because it is required to lock the domain name, or is ordered to lock the
domain name.   Because if a registrar is told to lock the "domain name", that
means that the registrar is being told to freeze the registration data
pertaining to that contract.  The registrar is most certainly NOT being told
to extend the term of the contract indefinitely.  The term of registration is
a material and inseparable aspect of a "domain name".

What ICANN staff is saying would be analogous to a dairy farm being required
to keep a shipment of milk in a fresh condition during litigation over
ownership thereof.  It can't.  It is in the nature of milk to go sour.
Likewise, it is in the nature of a domain name registered for a fixed period
of time, to expire.

It is interesting that ICANN staff does not seem to notice the problem of
"permanent litigation lock", which is the tactic I laid out months ago for
any registrant to obtain permanent free domain name registration - and which
I am personally aware that some registrants have taken advantage of.  If Mr.
Touton has read this far, I would be interested to know what a registrar is
supposed to do to purge themselves of it:

HOW TO GET A PERMANENT, FREE DOMAIN NAME:

1)  Register a domain name.
2)  File a lawsuit in an obscure court, especially in a developing nation
3)  Send a copy of the received complaint to the registrar
4)  Do not prosecute the lawsuit, and send no further court papers to the
registrar

Now, the registrar has received notice of an action, and that registrar will
NEVER receive notice of dismissal or settlement of the action.  Thus one has
gained a permanent free registration.

The lawsuit may simply be dismissed by the court, but the registrar has no
mechanism for knowing that.

And every time I publish this procedure, the roster of registrants who have
helped themselves to this procedure grows.  When you consider that you can
file a lawsuit in, say, India, for next to nothing, and that if you do
nothing, then the court might not even docket a hearing for several years,
then it will occur to you that this procedure is a perfectly rational thing
for a registrant to do, instead of paying for several years worth of domain
name registration.

Requiring a domain name to remain registered past its term for the sake of
litigation over the domain name makes as much sense as requiring the same
thing of a commodities option contract.  If you have an option to buy oil on
May 1 at $40 a barrel, and someone disputes the ownership of that option,
then if you do not resolve your dispute prior to May 1, then you have nothing
to fight over.  In that context, nobody would dream of "exteding" the
contract merely for the sake of litigation, and it makes as much sense in
this context.

One can surely have disputes over the beneficiary parties to a contract, but
there is no legal context in which the existence of such a dispute acts to
materially alter the terms of the contract itself.  The suggestion that there
is some sort of exception here is simply legal nonsense.

To the extent there is any "potential conflict" with a court order, putting
in an overall "unless ordered otherwise by authorized legal authority" solves
any such conflict.

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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Albert Brickel <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] RE: [centr-ga] Re: [nc-deletes] FW: [council] Concerns Regarding   Report of DeletesTask Force

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Scroll to the bottom of the list for Jeff Williams antics in 2003.

In response to the following rants from Jeff (Zombie-Kook) Williams find below some appropriate information: 

FROM: Jason Watkins 

DATE: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) 

TO: <[email-masked]>   [atlarge-discuss] Reminder: Jeff Williams is mentally Ill 

 

Just a reminder and a repost of the Jeff Williams FAQ.  I see that Jeff Williams has been writing not as an individual, but in the plural again.  Using phrases like "At such time as we [INEGroup] have done a complete review" This is just a reminder that INEG group does not exist, that Jeff Williams is not to be taken seriously, and that he speaks only for himself and not for a group of over 100,000 people.  Frankly it is sad, and I wish he would get help.  Regular readers will ignore his inane ramblings, but new readers may be tricked into replying. Among the "nutsy-cukoo" things he has said in the last few weeks are: That he met personally with President George Bush in Waco Texas and that he is having secret email conversations with government officials. Here is the rest of the FAQ: 

Jeff Williams' FAQ. (99/01) 

- -- 1. Who is Jeff Williams? Jeffrey A. Williams,  has claimed in postings to various lists: 

- -- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC 

- -- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC. 

- -- to be an ex-IBM Fellow, 

- -- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School 

- -- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law 

- -- to have served as a judge for 7 years 

- -- to be a member of the IETF -- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks 

- -- to be the author of two books and is working on a third 

- -- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users 

- -- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas 

- -- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war 

- -- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service) 

- -- Graduate of Naval Staff & War College 

- -- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps -- to own 8% of eBay 

However, 

- -- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind. 

- -- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from  'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group <http://www.ieg-america.com/>, became aware of Jeff's use of their name. 

- -- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff. Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter. 

- -- 2. Why should I take care in sending private email to Jeff Williams? He may post it to the list. Ironically, in his postings of others' private email so far the content has been counter-productive to his reputation and credibility. You should presume any email to him will posted to the list. 

- -- 3. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams? 

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/03504.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html     

Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2002, regarding his exploits: 

1.  worked at CMA (an IT consulting firm) developing management principals (his spelling not mine) 

2.  worked for the United States government on a program called Krypto (must be top secret because a Google search reveals only that it was the dog companion of Superboy) 

3.  worked for Systems Administration, Networking, and Security Institute (sans.org) on BIND security 

4.  worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) 

5.  worked for the Vietnam Veterans Association 

6.  worked for the Dallas Businessmen's Association (a Google search revealed no such organization) 

7.  worked for the United States Department of Defense as a project coordinator on the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) 

8.  worked for the World Trade Organization on General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) 

9.  worked on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) 

10.  attended the Economic Summit meeting held by President George. W. Bush in Waco, TX, in August, 2002 

11.  worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for six (6) years on Internet Protocol Version 6 

12.  flew F-4, F-14, F-18 jets for the United States Marine Corps but is now retired

13.  is a private pilot

14.  to have served as a county judge for 1 year 8 months

15.  has a law degree and specializes in trademark, business, and antitrust law

16.  given award as "Outstanding Texan" by Texas Chamber of Commerce in 1998 (Google search reveals Chamber of Commerce are by city only; there is no Texas State Chamber of Commerce)

16.  performs volunteer police work (and carries a gun!) once a month in the state of Texas

17.  claims membership in both Texas State Republican Party and Texas State Democratic Party Caucuses

18.  his family has six attorneys on retainer, two for him, two for his elderly parents, and one each for his daughters

19.  teaches speed reading and basic reading courses to underprivileged children and adults (where does he find the time to do all this and still rant online?) 

20.  claims to have US$4555 in a trust account held for icannatlarge.org but will not reveal name of bank nor provide any proof of account (and says that he can raise US$100K more with little effort)

21.  is working with Richard Clark, Chairman of the U.S. Critical Infrastructure Protection Board (Cybersecurity Czar) and Andrew Card, Chief of Staff of U.S. President Geo. W. Bush Whitehouse Administration, on cyber security issues

22.  has over 23 years experience starting up companies including non-profit corporations

23.  intimidated and threatened to report a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org to the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the F.B.I. for making a comment about President Bush (he claims to be on speaking terms with department managements)

The above items are directly from his OWN statements:

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00457.html 

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00619.html 

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00657.html 

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0209/msg00584.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00641.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00654.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00675.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01053.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00106.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00200.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00303.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00313.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00410.html

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02724.html 

Some other sources for the "real" Jeff Williams:

http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/

Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2003, regarding his exploits:

1.  alleges to be in the United States Government Federal Registry but a federal registry does not exist; although there is a Federal Register it has no association with any Jeff Williams persona regarding related fields or topics near what the Zombi/Kook rants (find out for yourself at http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html)

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0301/msg00258.

2.  claims to be a wireless internet provider for China although his fictitious company is not remotely connected with ISP and there is no reference anywhere through Google that mentions INEG and China in the same search except for postings by Jeff Williams (which means he references himself as proof he exists)

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html 

3.  seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake corporation (from 127k to 129k) as stated by his signature

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html 

4.  accused a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org of cheating the outcome of several internet based elections and when challenged he only made more unfounded accusations and provided no proof

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00400.html 

5.  always talks about members of INEG attending various internet related meetings but nobody ever sees them or speaks with them or even finds anyone wearing an INEG name tag , and Jeff always says "they are too busy to meet with you"

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00247.html 

6.  claims to be one of the originators of ARPANET

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00331.html

7.  claims to be an employee of the United States Government and threatened to sue another member as well as inform both U.S. and Canadian authorities of alleged illegal activities (the member was charged by Jeff of supposedly mailing the membership list without authority)

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00082.html

8.  claims to have over $6700 in funds for ICANNatLarge organization but does not provide proof the money exists

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00192.html 

 

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<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Scroll to the bottom of the list for Jeff Williams antics in 2003.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">In response to the following rants from Jeff (Zombie-Kook) Williams find below some appropriate information: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">FROM: Jason Watkins <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">DATE: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">TO: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>[atlarge-discuss] Reminder: Jeff Williams is mentally Ill <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Just a reminder and a repost of the Jeff Williams FAQ.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I see that Jeff Williams has been writing not as an individual, but in the plural again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Using phrases like "At such time as we [INEGroup] have done a complete review" This is just a reminder that INEG group does not exist, that Jeff Williams is not to be taken seriously, and that he speaks only for himself and not for a group of over 100,000 people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Frankly it is sad, and I wish he would get help.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Regular readers will ignore his inane ramblings, but new readers may be tricked into replying. Among the "nutsy-cukoo" things he has said in the last few weeks are: That he met personally with President George Bush in Waco Texas and that he is having secret email conversations with government officials. Here is the rest of the FAQ: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Jeff Williams' FAQ. (99/01) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- 1. Who is Jeff Williams? Jeffrey A. Williams,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>has claimed in postings to various lists: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be an ex-IBM Fellow, <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have served as a judge for 7 years <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be a member of the IETF -- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be the author of two books and is working on a third <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Graduate of Naval Staff &amp; War College <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps -- to own 8% of eBay <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">However, <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group &lt;http://www.ieg-america.com/&gt;, became aware of Jeff's use of their name. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff. Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- 2. Why should I take care in sending private email to Jeff Williams? He may post it to the list. Ironically, in his postings of others' private email so far the content has been counter-productive to his reputation and credibility. You should presume any email to him will posted to the list. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- 3. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams? <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/03504.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2002, regarding his exploits: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">1.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked at CMA (an IT consulting firm) developing management principals (his spelling not mine) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the United States government on a program called Krypto (must be top secret because a Google search reveals only that it was the dog companion of Superboy) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">3.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for Systems Administration, Networking, and Security Institute (sans.org) on BIND security <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">4.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">5.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Vietnam Veterans Association <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">6.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Dallas Businessmen's Association (a Google search revealed no such organization) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">7.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the United States Department of Defense as a project coordinator on the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">8.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the World Trade Organization on General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">9.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">10.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>attended the Economic Summit meeting held by President George. W. Bush in Waco, TX, in August, 2002 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">11.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for six (6) years on Internet Protocol Version 6 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">12.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>flew F-4, F-14, F-18 jets for the United States Marine Corps but is now retired<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">13.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>is a private pilot<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">14.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>to have served as a county judge for 1 year 8 months<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">15.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>has a law degree and specializes in trademark, business, and antitrust law<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">16.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>given award as "Outstanding Texan" by Texas Chamber of Commerce in 1998 (Google search reveals Chamber of Commerce are by city only; there is no Texas State Chamber of Commerce)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">16.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>performs volunteer police work (and carries a gun!) once a month in the state of Texas<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">17.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims membership in both Texas State Republican Party and Texas State Democratic Party Caucuses<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">18.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>his family has six attorneys on retainer, two for him, two for his elderly parents, and one each for his daughters<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">19.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>teaches speed reading and basic reading courses to underprivileged children and adults (where does he find the time to do all this and still rant online?) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">20.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to have US$4555 in a trust account held for icannatlarge.org but will not reveal name of bank nor provide any proof of account (and says that he can raise US$100K more with little effort)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">21.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>is working with Richard Clark, Chairman of the U.S. Critical Infrastructure Protection Board (Cybersecurity Czar) and Andrew Card, Chief of Staff of U.S. President Geo. W. Bush Whitehouse Administration, on cyber security issues<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">22.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>has over 23 years experience starting up companies including non-profit corporations<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">23. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>intimidated and threatened to report a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org to the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the F.B.I. for making a comment about President Bush (he claims to be on speaking terms with department managements)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">The above items are directly from his OWN statements:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00457.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00619.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00657.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0209/msg00584.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00641.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00654.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00675.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01053.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00106.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00200.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00303.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00313.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00410.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02724.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Some other sources for the "real" Jeff Williams:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2003, regarding his exploits:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">1.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>alleges to be in the United States Government Federal Registry but a federal registry does not exist; although there is a Federal Register it has no association with any Jeff Williams persona regarding related fields or topics near what the Zombi/Kook rants (find out for yourself at http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0301/msg00258.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to be a wireless internet provider for China although his fictitious company is not remotely connected with ISP and there is no reference anywhere through Google that mentions INEG and China in the same search except for postings by Jeff Williams (which means he references himself as proof he exists)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">3.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake corporation (from 127k to 129k) as stated by his signature<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">4.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>accused a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org of cheating the outcome of several internet based elections and when challenged he only made more unfounded accusations and provided no proof<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00400.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">5.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>always talks about members of INEG attending various internet related meetings but nobody ever sees them or speaks with them or even finds anyone wearing an INEG name tag , and Jeff always says "they are too busy to meet with you"<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00247.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">6.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to be one of the originators of ARPANET<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00331.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">7.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to be an employee of the United States Government and threatened to sue another member as well as inform both U.S. and Canadian authorities of alleged illegal activities (the member was charged by Jeff of supposedly mailing the membership list without authority)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00082.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">8.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to have over $6700 in funds for ICANNatLarge organization but does not provide proof the money exists<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00192.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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