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GA-DIGEST            Monday, April 7 2003            Volume 01 : Number 1656

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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:07:52 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Kirikos" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 AM
Subject: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

> Performing a WHOIS for vcnr.com:
> 

Have you checked....?

IN-ADDR.COM
IN-ADDR.NET
IN-ADDR.DE
IN-ADDR.ORG
IN-ADDR.BIZ
IN-ADDR.US
IN-ADDR.INFO
IN-ADDR.NL
...

Jim Fleming
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 04:41:13 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions

Jim and all former DNSO GA membersor other interested parties,

  Most ICANN BOD members past and present don't use the internet
often according to my tracking, and in accordance with your very
good note from Esther below.  In fact if you recall, during Esthers
reign a COB she had problems learning how to use E-Mail and indicated
such in 1998 as I recall. For instance also she ask what a "Whois" was
and "Whatis" is.

  I see from the post to the Registrars constituency list that Linda
Wilson still has a problem in using E-Mail well.  Perhaps a
copy of "Internet for Dummy's" would be in order... Oh wait,
maybe that requires a BoD decision??!!  >;)

Jim Fleming wrote:

> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00973.html
> From: Linda S. Wilson [mailto:[email-masked]]
> ===
>
> Does this mean that ICANN Board members actually use the Internet ?
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.IPv8.info
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.opendemocracy.net/forum/document_details.asp?CatID=12&DocID=482
>
> "My job was only to express the board's opinion as a whole. Unfortunately
> it had very few opinions, because it didn't know very much, and its
> opinions were supposed to reflect a mostly nonexistent consensus."
>                       - Esther Dyson
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Milton Mueller" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:43 AM
> Subject: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions
>
> >                           ICANN Nominating Committee
> >          Formal Call for Recommendations and Statements of Interest
> >                                5 April 2003
> >
> > Key Points
> >  * Deadline for Completed Statements of Interest - 5 May 2003
> >  * Target Date for Announcement of Selections - Early June, 2003
> >  * NomCom website <http://www.icann.org/committees/nom-comm/>
> >  * Send comments/questions to <[email-masked]>
> >  * Send completed Statements of Interest to <[email-masked]>
> >  * Send Recommendations to <[email-masked]>
> >  * If you would like to receive NomCom announcements, please send an e-mail
> >    with the text "subscribe nomcom.announce" to
> >    <[email-masked]>
> >
> > A: Introduction
> >
> > The ICANN Nominating Committee (NomCom) invites the participation of the
> > Internet community in a new process to select well-qualified, accomplished
> > men and women to serve in three sets of leadership positions in ICANN. NomCom
> > is looking for men and women who have demonstrated the maturity, experience,
> > knowledge and skills to handle the tasks and make the judgments involved in
> > fulfilling the roles of Board Directors, Generic Names Supporting
> > Organization (GNSO) Council Members and Interim At Large Advisory Committee
> > (ALAC) Members.
> >
> > We invite both (1) Recommendations of persons to be considered and
> > (2) Statements of Interest from persons who wish to be considered for the
> > following positions: eight seats on the Board of Directors, three seats on
> > the GNSO, and five seats on the Interim ALAC. NomCom will use the criteria
> > and eligibility factors described below in Section F to make its selections.
> >
> > The NomCom welcomes your active participation in this new nominating process
> > and will be grateful for the valuable input it hopes to receive.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Regards,

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================================================================
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:45:50 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions

http://www.opendemocracy.net/forum/document_details.asp?CatID=12&DocID=1704
"Users do know what they want - if they know enough to think about it."
 - Esther Dyson
====

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Milton Mueller" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; "General Assembly of the DNSO" <[email-masked]>; "icann board
address" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions

> Jim and all former DNSO GA membersor other interested parties,
>
>   Most ICANN BOD members past and present don't use the internet
> often according to my tracking, and in accordance with your very
> good note from Esther below.  In fact if you recall, during Esthers
> reign a COB she had problems learning how to use E-Mail and indicated
> such in 1998 as I recall. For instance also she ask what a "Whois" was
> and "Whatis" is.
>
>   I see from the post to the Registrars constituency list that Linda
> Wilson still has a problem in using E-Mail well.  Perhaps a
> copy of "Internet for Dummy's" would be in order... Oh wait,
> maybe that requires a BoD decision??!!  >;)
>
> Jim Fleming wrote:
>
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00973.html
> > From: Linda S. Wilson [mailto:[email-masked]]
> > ===
> >
> > Does this mean that ICANN Board members actually use the Internet ?
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > http://www.opendemocracy.net/forum/document_details.asp?CatID=12&DocID=482
> >
> > "My job was only to express the board's opinion as a whole. Unfortunately
> > it had very few opinions, because it didn't know very much, and its
> > opinions were supposed to reflect a mostly nonexistent consensus."
> >                       - Esther Dyson
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Milton Mueller" <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:43 AM
> > Subject: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions
> >
> > >                           ICANN Nominating Committee
> > >          Formal Call for Recommendations and Statements of Interest
> > >                                5 April 2003
> > >
> > > Key Points
> > >  * Deadline for Completed Statements of Interest - 5 May 2003
> > >  * Target Date for Announcement of Selections - Early June, 2003
> > >  * NomCom website <http://www.icann.org/committees/nom-comm/>
> > >  * Send comments/questions to <[email-masked]>
> > >  * Send completed Statements of Interest to <[email-masked]>
> > >  * Send Recommendations to <[email-masked]>
> > >  * If you would like to receive NomCom announcements, please send an e-mail
> > >    with the text "subscribe nomcom.announce" to
> > >    <[email-masked]>
> > >
> > > A: Introduction
> > >
> > > The ICANN Nominating Committee (NomCom) invites the participation of the
> > > Internet community in a new process to select well-qualified, accomplished
> > > men and women to serve in three sets of leadership positions in ICANN. NomCom
> > > is looking for men and women who have demonstrated the maturity, experience,
> > > knowledge and skills to handle the tasks and make the judgments involved in
> > > fulfilling the roles of Board Directors, Generic Names Supporting
> > > Organization (GNSO) Council Members and Interim At Large Advisory Committee
> > > (ALAC) Members.
> > >
> > > We invite both (1) Recommendations of persons to be considered and
> > > (2) Statements of Interest from persons who wish to be considered for the
> > > following positions: eight seats on the Board of Directors, three seats on
> > > the GNSO, and five seats on the Interim ALAC. NomCom will use the criteria
> > > and eligibility factors described below in Section F to make its selections.
> > >
> > > The NomCom welcomes your active participation in this new nominating process
> > > and will be grateful for the valuable input it hopes to receive.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss mailing list
> > > [email-masked]
> > > http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 129k members/stakeholders strong!)
> ================================================================
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail [email-masked]
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 05:12:59 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

Jim and all former DNSO GA members,

  Your on a good roll here Jim, I did notice that IN-ADDR.BIZ
at least is not accurate.  Yet Jeff Neuman insists that Neulevel
is a honest organization...  IN-ADDR.US is available for registration
as well.  And you have IN-ADDR.INFO registered.  And
IN-ADDR.WS is also available for registration...

Jim Fleming wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Kirikos" <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 AM
> Subject: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....
>
> > Performing a WHOIS for vcnr.com:
> >
>
> Have you checked....?
>
> IN-ADDR.COM
> IN-ADDR.NET
> IN-ADDR.DE
> IN-ADDR.ORG
> IN-ADDR.BIZ
> IN-ADDR.US
> IN-ADDR.INFO
> IN-ADDR.NL
> ...
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.IPv8.info
>
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================================================================
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 05:26:53 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] "...IN-ADDR.US is available for registration..." ???

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt

1:46 US   (UNITED-STATES)

"...IN-ADDR.US is available for registration..." ???

=====

Is the 32-bit legacy .US DNS Registry going to be offering Premium.TLD 128-bit DNS services ?

Jim Fleming

http://www.IPv8.info

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "George Kirikos" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

> Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
> 
>   Your on a good roll here Jim, I did notice that IN-ADDR.BIZ
> at least is not accurate.  Yet Jeff Neuman insists that Neulevel
> is a honest organization...  IN-ADDR.US is available for registration
> as well.  And you have IN-ADDR.INFO registered.  And
> IN-ADDR.WS is also available for registration...
> 
> Jim Fleming wrote:
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Kirikos" <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 AM
> > Subject: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....
> >
> > > Performing a WHOIS for vcnr.com:
> > >
> >
> > Have you checked....?
> >
> > IN-ADDR.COM
> > IN-ADDR.NET
> > IN-ADDR.DE
> > IN-ADDR.ORG
> > IN-ADDR.BIZ
> > IN-ADDR.US
> > IN-ADDR.INFO
> > IN-ADDR.NL
> > ...
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> >
> > --
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> Regards,
> 
> --
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> ================================================================
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail [email-masked]
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 05:40:15 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 0:0 .ARPA...Gala Party .ORG in Memphis This Week...

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
0:0  ARPA

0:0 .ARPA...Gala Party .ORG in Memphis This Week...

http://ww1.arin.net/cgi-bin/meetattnd.pl

Jim Fleming
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:44:48 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 0:212     BIZ..."...I did notice that IN-ADDR.BIZ..." ?

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
0:212     BIZ
===

.BIZ is still in the early stages of Proof-of-Concept....market-trial development...

With all of the 32-bit legacy (IPv4) TLD market development, the goal is to run a market test
and to see how many early adopters (customers?) there are for a TLD. Once the size of the market
for a TLD is determined, then one can start to consider the investments required to provide the
serious 128-bit DNS infrastructure. The toy 32-bit systems are OK for market tests, but not for
commercial services that are comparable to what one gets in the .USA from their local phone company
or their cellular provider.

As an example, if the market for .BIZ names during the Proof-of-Concept phase shows there are
one million early adopters, and one uses the typical 60% follow-on renewal rate, then there may be
a potential for 600,000 serious users, but the price may determine their interest. If the 128-bit DNS
.BIZ Registry requires $600,000,000 to deploy and operate annualy, then each .BIZ owner would
to pay $1,000 per year which is what you see some of the so-called ccTLD Registries charging.
At $1,000 per year, there may not be 600,000 serious customers, there may only be 60,000 which
is what the market research shows to be closer to reality in a truely open and free market, not controlled
by the U.S. Government. With 60,000 customers, the 128-bit DNS Registry may have to settle for
an annual budget of $60,000,000 which still results in the $1,000 per name per year price.

No matter how it is priced or what company (or companies) operate the 128-bit DNS .BIZ Registry,
the customer base developed during the Proof-of-Concept Market Trial(s) will be preserved. A company
would not want to have to start over and spend millions on marketing when the customers are ready and
waiting for the Next Generation InterNAT services.

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "George Kirikos" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

> Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
> 
>   Your on a good roll here Jim, I did notice that IN-ADDR.BIZ
> at least is not accurate.  Yet Jeff Neuman insists that Neulevel
> is a honest organization...  IN-ADDR.US is available for registration
> as well.  And you have IN-ADDR.INFO registered.  And
> IN-ADDR.WS is also available for registration...
> 
> Jim Fleming wrote:
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Kirikos" <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:28 AM
> > Subject: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....
> >
> > > Performing a WHOIS for vcnr.com:
> > >
> >
> > Have you checked....?
> >
> > IN-ADDR.COM
> > IN-ADDR.NET
> > IN-ADDR.DE
> > IN-ADDR.ORG
> > IN-ADDR.BIZ
> > IN-ADDR.US
> > IN-ADDR.INFO
> > IN-ADDR.NL
> > ...
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.IPv8.info
> >
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> 
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> ================================================================
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail [email-masked]
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:39:24 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

At 1:28 AM -0700 4/7/03, George Kirikos wrote:
>Performing a WHOIS for vcnr.com:
>
>whois -h whois.internic.net vcnr.com ...
>
>Whois Server Version 1.3
>
>Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
>with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
>for detailed information.
>
>   Domain Name: VCNR.COM
>   Registrar: VERISIGN GLOBAL REGISTRY SERVICES
>   Whois Server: whois.verisign-grs.com
>   Referral URL: http://www.verisign-grs.com
>   Name Server: No nameserver
>   Status: ACTIVE
>   Updated Date: 25-dec-2002
>   Creation Date: 24-dec-2001
>   Expiration Date: 24-dec-2003
>
>This registrar "Verisign Global Registry Services" is flouting the
>rules, and its contractual requirements for WHOIS accuracy and required
>elements, e.g. see:
>
>http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm#3.3
>
>In particular, the:
>
>3.3.1.6 The name and postal address of the Registered Name Holder;
>
>3.3.1.7 The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone
>number, and (where available) fax number of the technical contact for
>the Registered Name; and
>
>3.3.1.8 The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone
>number, and (where available) fax number of the administrative contact
>for the Registered Name.
>
>are all missing!

Very interesting.

I knew that ICANN had permitted Verisign (contrary to the White Paper) to
continue ownership of NSI, but I didn't realise the Registry itself was
allowed to run as a Registrar as well, and hide WHOIS data.

Anyone know what "vcnr" means?

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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:56:11 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Elisabeth Porteneuve <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

> 
> Anyone know what "vcnr" means?
> 
http://www.verisign-grs.com/registrar/

VeriSign's COM NET Registry (VCNR) manages relationships ...

Thanks to icannwatch.org

Elisabeth Porteneuve
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Kirikos <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

Hello,

- --- Elisabeth Porteneuve <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > Anyone know what "vcnr" means?
> > 
> http://www.verisign-grs.com/registrar/
> 
> VeriSign's COM NET Registry (VCNR) manages relationships ...
> 
> Thanks to icannwatch.org

Maybe they were peeved that VGRS.com was already taken....

I find it interesting that they registered vcnr.com a few days before
WLS was proposed.....perhaps there's a grander vision....nostalgia for
the "good old days" when the registry was the sole com/net
registrar....back to the future??!!??

Here's hoping that Chuck Gomes doesn't own a plutonium-powered
DeLorean. :)

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
http://www.kirikos.com/
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Albert Brickel <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions

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Scroll to the bottom of the list for Jeff Williams antics in 2003.

In response to the following rants from Jeff (Zombie-Kook) Williams find below some appropriate information: 

FROM: Jason Watkins 

DATE: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) 

TO: <[email-masked]>   [atlarge-discuss] Reminder: Jeff Williams is mentally Ill 

 

Just a reminder and a repost of the Jeff Williams FAQ.  I see that Jeff Williams has been writing not as an individual, but in the plural again.  Using phrases like "At such time as we [INEGroup] have done a complete review" This is just a reminder that INEG group does not exist, that Jeff Williams is not to be taken seriously, and that he speaks only for himself and not for a group of over 100,000 people.  Frankly it is sad, and I wish he would get help.  Regular readers will ignore his inane ramblings, but new readers may be tricked into replying. Among the "nutsy-cukoo" things he has said in the last few weeks are: That he met personally with President George Bush in Waco Texas and that he is having secret email conversations with government officials. Here is the rest of the FAQ: 

Jeff Williams' FAQ. (99/01) 

- -- 1. Who is Jeff Williams? Jeffrey A. Williams,  has claimed in postings to various lists: 

- -- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC 

- -- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC. 

- -- to be an ex-IBM Fellow, 

- -- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School 

- -- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law 

- -- to have served as a judge for 7 years 

- -- to be a member of the IETF -- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks 

- -- to be the author of two books and is working on a third 

- -- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users 

- -- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas 

- -- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war 

- -- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service) 

- -- Graduate of Naval Staff & War College 

- -- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps -- to own 8% of eBay 

However, 

- -- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind. 

- -- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from  'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group <http://www.ieg-america.com/>, became aware of Jeff's use of their name. 

- -- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff. Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter. 

- -- 2. Why should I take care in sending private email to Jeff Williams? He may post it to the list. Ironically, in his postings of others' private email so far the content has been counter-productive to his reputation and credibility. You should presume any email to him will posted to the list. 

- -- 3. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams? 

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/03504.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html     

Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2002, regarding his exploits: 

1.  worked at CMA (an IT consulting firm) developing management principals (his spelling not mine) 

2.  worked for the United States government on a program called Krypto (must be top secret because a Google search reveals only that it was the dog companion of Superboy) 

3.  worked for Systems Administration, Networking, and Security Institute (sans.org) on BIND security 

4.  worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) 

5.  worked for the Vietnam Veterans Association 

6.  worked for the Dallas Businessmen's Association (a Google search revealed no such organization) 

7.  worked for the United States Department of Defense as a project coordinator on the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) 

8.  worked for the World Trade Organization on General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) 

9.  worked on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) 

10.  attended the Economic Summit meeting held by President George. W. Bush in Waco, TX, in August, 2002 

11.  worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for six (6) years on Internet Protocol Version 6 

12.  flew F-4, F-14, F-18 jets for the United States Marine Corps but is now retired

13.  is a private pilot

14.  to have served as a county judge for 1 year 8 months

15.  has a law degree and specializes in trademark, business, and antitrust law

16.  given award as "Outstanding Texan" by Texas Chamber of Commerce in 1998 (Google search reveals Chamber of Commerce are by city only; there is no Texas State Chamber of Commerce)

16.  performs volunteer police work (and carries a gun!) once a month in the state of Texas

17.  claims membership in both Texas State Republican Party and Texas State Democratic Party Caucuses

18.  his family has six attorneys on retainer, two for him, two for his elderly parents, and one each for his daughters

19.  teaches speed reading and basic reading courses to underprivileged children and adults (where does he find the time to do all this and still rant online?) 

20.  claims to have US$4555 in a trust account held for icannatlarge.org but will not reveal name of bank nor provide any proof of account (and says that he can raise US$100K more with little effort)

21.  is working with Richard Clark, Chairman of the U.S. Critical Infrastructure Protection Board (Cybersecurity Czar) and Andrew Card, Chief of Staff of U.S. President Geo. W. Bush Whitehouse Administration, on cyber security issues

22.  has over 23 years experience starting up companies including non-profit corporations

23.  intimidated and threatened to report a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org to the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the F.B.I. for making a comment about President Bush (he claims to be on speaking terms with department managements)

The above items are directly from his OWN statements:

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00457.html 

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00619.html 

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00657.html 

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0209/msg00584.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00641.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00654.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00675.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01053.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00106.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00200.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00303.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00313.html

http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00410.html

http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02724.html 

Some other sources for the "real" Jeff Williams:

http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/

Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2003, regarding his exploits:

1.  alleges to be in the United States Government Federal Registry but a federal registry does not exist; although there is a Federal Register it has no association with any Jeff Williams persona regarding related fields or topics near what the Zombi/Kook rants (find out for yourself at http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html)

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0301/msg00258.

2.  claims to be a wireless internet provider for China although his fictitious company is not remotely connected with ISP and there is no reference anywhere through Google that mentions INEG and China in the same search except for postings by Jeff Williams (which means he references himself as proof he exists)

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html 

3.  seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake corporation (from 127k to 129k) as stated by his signature

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html 

4.  accused a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org of cheating the outcome of several internet based elections and when challenged he only made more unfounded accusations and provided no proof

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00400.html 

5.  always talks about members of INEG attending various internet related meetings but nobody ever sees them or speaks with them or even finds anyone wearing an INEG name tag , and Jeff always says "they are too busy to meet with you"

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00247.html 

6.  claims to be one of the originators of ARPANET

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00331.html

7.  claims to be an employee of the United States Government and threatened to sue another member as well as inform both U.S. and Canadian authorities of alleged illegal activities (the member was charged by Jeff of supposedly mailing the membership list without authority)

see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00082.html 

 

 Jeff Williams <[email-masked]> wrote:
Jim and all former DNSO GA membersor other interested parties,

Most ICANN BOD members past and present don't use the internet
often according to my tracking, and in accordance with your very
good note from Esther below. In fact if you recall, during Esthers
reign a COB she had problems learning how to use E-Mail and indicated
such in 1998 as I recall. For instance also she ask what a "Whois" was
and "Whatis" is.

I see from the post to the Registrars constituency list that Linda
Wilson still has a problem in using E-Mail well. Perhaps a
copy of "Internet for Dummy's" would be in order... Oh wait,
maybe that requires a BoD decision??!! >;)

Jim Fleming wrote:

> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00973.html
> From: Linda S. Wilson [mailto:[email-masked]]
> ===
>
> Does this mean that ICANN Board members actually use the Internet ?
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.IPv8.info
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.opendemocracy.net/forum/document_details.asp?CatID=12&DocID=482
>
> "My job was only to express the board's opinion as a whole. Unfortunately
> it had very few opinions, because it didn't know very much, and its
> opinions were supposed to reflect a mostly nonexistent consensus."
> - Esther Dyson
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Milton Mueller" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:43 AM
> Subject: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions
>
> > ICANN Nominating Committee
> > Formal Call for Recommendations and Statements of Interest
> > 5 April 2003
> >
> > Key Points
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> > * Target Date for Announcement of Selections - Early June, 2003
> > * NomCom website 
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> > * Send Recommendations to 
> > * If you would like to receive NomCom announcements, please send an e-mail
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> >
> > A: Introduction
> >
> > The ICANN Nominating Committee (NomCom) invites the participation of the
> > Internet community in a new process to select well-qualified, accomplished
> > men and women to serve in three sets of leadership positions in ICANN. NomCom
> > is looking for men and women who have demonstrated the maturity, experience,
> > knowledge and skills to handle the tasks and make the judgments involved in
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> > following positions: eight seats on the Board of Directors, three seats on
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 129k members/stakeholders strong!)
================================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Scroll to the bottom of the list for Jeff Williams antics in 2003.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">In response to the following rants from Jeff (Zombie-Kook) Williams find below some appropriate information: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">FROM: Jason Watkins <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">DATE: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">TO: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>[atlarge-discuss] Reminder: Jeff Williams is mentally Ill <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Just a reminder and a repost of the Jeff Williams FAQ.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I see that Jeff Williams has been writing not as an individual, but in the plural again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Using phrases like "At such time as we [INEGroup] have done a complete review" This is just a reminder that INEG group does not exist, that Jeff Williams is not to be taken seriously, and that he speaks only for himself and not for a group of over 100,000 people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Frankly it is sad, and I wish he would get help.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Regular readers will ignore his inane ramblings, but new readers may be tricked into replying. Among the "nutsy-cukoo" things he has said in the last few weeks are: That he met personally with President George Bush in Waco Texas and that he is having secret email conversations with government officials. Here is the rest of the FAQ: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Jeff Williams' FAQ. (99/01) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- 1. Who is Jeff Williams? Jeffrey A. Williams,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>has claimed in postings to various lists: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be an ex-IBM Fellow, <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have served as a judge for 7 years <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be a member of the IETF -- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to be the author of two books and is working on a third <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Graduate of Naval Staff &amp; War College <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps -- to own 8% of eBay <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">However, <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group &lt;http://www.ieg-america.com/&gt;, became aware of Jeff's use of their name. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff. Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- 2. Why should I take care in sending private email to Jeff Williams? He may post it to the list. Ironically, in his postings of others' private email so far the content has been counter-productive to his reputation and credibility. You should presume any email to him will posted to the list. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">-- 3. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams? <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/03504.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2002, regarding his exploits: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">1.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked at CMA (an IT consulting firm) developing management principals (his spelling not mine) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the United States government on a program called Krypto (must be top secret because a Google search reveals only that it was the dog companion of Superboy) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">3.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for Systems Administration, Networking, and Security Institute (sans.org) on BIND security <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">4.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">5.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Vietnam Veterans Association <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">6.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Dallas Businessmen's Association (a Google search revealed no such organization) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">7.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the United States Department of Defense as a project coordinator on the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">8.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the World Trade Organization on General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">9.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">10.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>attended the Economic Summit meeting held by President George. W. Bush in Waco, TX, in August, 2002 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">11.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for six (6) years on Internet Protocol Version 6 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">12.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>flew F-4, F-14, F-18 jets for the United States Marine Corps but is now retired<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">13.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>is a private pilot<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">14.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>to have served as a county judge for 1 year 8 months<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">15.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>has a law degree and specializes in trademark, business, and antitrust law<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">16.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>given award as "Outstanding Texan" by Texas Chamber of Commerce in 1998 (Google search reveals Chamber of Commerce are by city only; there is no Texas State Chamber of Commerce)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">16.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>performs volunteer police work (and carries a gun!) once a month in the state of Texas<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">17.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims membership in both Texas State Republican Party and Texas State Democratic Party Caucuses<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">18.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>his family has six attorneys on retainer, two for him, two for his elderly parents, and one each for his daughters<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">19.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>teaches speed reading and basic reading courses to underprivileged children and adults (where does he find the time to do all this and still rant online?) <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">20.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to have US$4555 in a trust account held for icannatlarge.org but will not reveal name of bank nor provide any proof of account (and says that he can raise US$100K more with little effort)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">21.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>is working with Richard Clark, Chairman of the U.S. Critical Infrastructure Protection Board (Cybersecurity Czar) and Andrew Card, Chief of Staff of U.S. President Geo. W. Bush Whitehouse Administration, on cyber security issues<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">22.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>has over 23 years experience starting up companies including non-profit corporations<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">23.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>intimidated and threatened to report a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org to the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the F.B.I. for making a comment about President Bush (he claims to be on speaking terms with department managements)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">The above items are directly from his OWN statements:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00457.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00619.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00657.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0209/msg00584.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00641.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00654.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00675.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01053.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00106.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00200.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00303.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00313.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00410.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02724.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Some other sources for the "real" Jeff Williams:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2003, regarding his exploits:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">1.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>alleges to be in the United States Government Federal Registry but a federal registry does not exist; although there is a Federal Register it has no association with any Jeff Williams persona regarding related fields or topics near what the Zombi/Kook rants (find out for yourself at http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0301/msg00258.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">2.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to be a wireless internet provider for China although his fictitious company is not remotely connected with ISP and there is no reference anywhere through Google that mentions INEG and China in the same search except for postings by Jeff Williams (which means he references himself as proof he exists)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">3.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake corporation (from 127k to 129k) as stated by his signature<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">4.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>accused a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org of cheating the outcome of several internet based elections and when challenged he only made more unfounded accusations and provided no proof<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00400.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">5.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>always talks about members of INEG attending various internet related meetings but nobody ever sees them or speaks with them or even finds anyone wearing an INEG name tag , and Jeff always says "they are too busy to meet with you"<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00247.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">6.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to be one of the originators of ARPANET<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00331.html<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">7.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>claims to be an employee of the United States Government and threatened to sue another member as well as inform both U.S. and Canadian authorities of alleged illegal activities (the member was charged by Jeff of supposedly mailing the membership list without authority)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00082.html <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Jeff Williams &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</I></B> wrote:</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Jim and all former DNSO GA membersor other interested parties,<BR><BR>Most ICANN BOD members past and present don't use the internet<BR>often according to my tracking, and in accordance with your very<BR>good note from Esther below. In fact if you recall, during Esthers<BR>reign a COB she had problems learning how to use E-Mail and indicated<BR>such in 1998 as I recall. For instance also she ask what a "Whois" was<BR>and "Whatis" is.<BR><BR>I see from the post to the Registrars constituency list that Linda<BR>Wilson still has a problem in using E-Mail well. Perhaps a<BR>copy of "Internet for Dummy's" would be in order... Oh wait,<BR>maybe that requires a BoD decision??!! &gt;;)<BR><BR>Jim Fleming wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00973.html<BR>&gt; From: Linda S. Wilson [mailto:[email-masked]]<BR>&gt; ===<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Does this mean that ICANN Board members actually use the Internet ?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Jim Fleming<BR>&gt; http://www.IPv8.info<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; http://www.opendemocracy.net/forum/document_details.asp?CatID=12&amp;DocID=482<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "My job was only to express the board's opinion as a whole. Unfortunately<BR>&gt; it had very few opinions, because it didn't know very much, and its<BR>&gt; opinions were supposed to reflect a mostly nonexistent consensus."<BR>&gt; - Esther Dyson<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "Milton Mueller" <[email-masked]><BR>&gt; To: <[email-masked]><BR>&gt; Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:43 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: [ncdnhc-discuss] NomCom positions<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ICANN Nominating Committee<BR>&gt; &gt; Formal Call for Recommendations and Statements of Interest<BR>&gt; &gt; 5 April 2003<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Key Points<BR>&gt; &gt; * Deadline for Completed Statements of Interest - 5 May 2003<BR>&gt; &gt; * Target Date for Announcement of Selections - Early June, 2003<BR>&gt; &gt; * NomCom website <HTTP: nom-comm committees www.icann.org /><BR>&gt; &gt; * Send comments/questions to <[email-masked]><BR>&gt; &gt; * Send completed Statements of Interest to <[email-masked]><BR>&gt; &gt; * Send Recommendations to <[email-masked]><BR>&gt; &gt; * If you would like to receive NomCom announcements, please send an e-mail<BR>&gt; &gt; with the text "subscribe nomcom.announce" to<BR>&gt; &gt; <[email-masked]><BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; A: Introduction<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; The ICANN Nominating Committee (NomCom) invites the participation of the<BR>&gt; &gt; Internet community in a new process to select well-qualified, accomplished<BR>&gt; &gt; men and women to serve in three sets of leadership positions in ICANN. NomCom<BR>&gt; &gt; is looking for men and women who have demonstrated the maturity, experience,<BR>&gt; &gt; knowledge and skills to handle the tasks and make the judgments involved in<BR>&gt; &gt; fulfilling the roles of Board Directors, Generic Names Supporting<BR>&gt; &gt; Organization (GNSO) Council Members and Interim At Large Advisory Committee<BR>&gt; &gt; (ALAC) Members.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; We invite both (1) Recommendations of persons to be considered and<BR>&gt; &gt; (2) Statements of Interest from persons who wish to be considered for the<BR>&gt; &gt; following positions: eight seats on the Board of Directors, three seats on<BR>&gt; &gt; the GNSO, and five seats on the Interim ALAC. NomCom will use the criteria<BR>&gt; &gt; and eligibility factors described below in Section F to make its selections.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; The NomCom welcomes your active participation in this new nominating process<BR>&gt; &gt; and will be grateful for the valuable input it hopes to receive.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; Discuss mailing list<BR>&gt; &gt; [email-masked]<BR>&gt; &gt; http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Discuss mailing list<BR>&gt; [email-masked]<BR>&gt; http://www.icann-ncc.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>--<BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 129k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>================================================================<BR>CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security<BR>Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.<BR>E-Mail [email-masked]<BR>Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.<BR>Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe<BR>("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).<BR>Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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