Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1655
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GA-DIGEST            Monday, April 7 2003            Volume 01 : Number 1655

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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 06:57:47 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Re: [Anuncios] Update to IANA IPv4 Page

What will those "Reserved" pieces of real estate in cyberspace be leasing for each year ?

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From: "John L Crain" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:23 PM
Subject: [Anuncios] Update to IANA IPv4 Page

> Hello All,
> 
> A few days later than originally expected but:
> 
> As announced to this list earlier this year, the IANA has
> updated the IPv4 Address pages
> 
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> 
> to reflect the status of the following ranges as listed below.
> 
> 
> 173/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 174/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 175/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 176/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 177/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 178/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 179/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 180/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 181/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 182/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 183/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 184/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 185/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 186/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 187/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 189/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 190/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> 
> Please send questions or comments to [email-masked]
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  John                          mailto:[email-masked]
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Anuncios mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://www.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/anuncios

As long as people use the 0:0 .ARPA address space, they will be subject to the 
http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
http://www.ietf.org//mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg18554.html
From: Bob Braden <[email-masked]>
"Vint Cerf was working the Levers of Power at ARPA."
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200212/msg00058.html
From: Dave Farber [email-masked]
"I still have the button and still have the memories..."
http://www.bizforward.com/wdc/issues/2002-07/forward40/myforward40.shtml
by Vint Cerf
Senior vice president of Internet Architecture and Technology,
WorldCom
"It gets hard to pick out people who have a lot of impact. The people who have money left [are important]."
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 20:25:34 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [Anuncios] Update to IANA IPv4 Page

Jim and all former DNAO GA members,

  Good question.  You can bet that the price will increase significantly
in 6 months.

Jim Fleming wrote:

> What will those "Reserved" pieces of real estate in cyberspace be leasing for each year ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John L Crain" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:23 PM
> Subject: [Anuncios] Update to IANA IPv4 Page
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > A few days later than originally expected but:
> >
> > As announced to this list earlier this year, the IANA has
> > updated the IPv4 Address pages
> >
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> >
> > to reflect the status of the following ranges as listed below.
> >
> >
> > 173/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 174/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 175/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 176/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 177/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 178/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 179/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 180/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 181/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 182/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 183/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 184/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 185/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 186/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 187/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 189/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> > 190/8   Apr 03   IANA - Reserved
> >
> > Please send questions or comments to [email-masked]
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  John                          mailto:[email-masked]
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Anuncios mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://www.lacnic.net/mailman/listinfo/anuncios
>
> As long as people use the 0:0 .ARPA address space, they will be subject to the
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> http://www.ietf.org//mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg18554.html
> From: Bob Braden <[email-masked]>
> "Vint Cerf was working the Levers of Power at ARPA."
> http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200212/msg00058.html
> From: Dave Farber [email-masked]
> "I still have the button and still have the memories..."
> http://www.bizforward.com/wdc/issues/2002-07/forward40/myforward40.shtml
> by Vint Cerf
> Senior vice president of Internet Architecture and Technology,
> WorldCom
> "It gets hard to pick out people who have a lot of impact. The people who have money left [are important]."
> ===========================================================
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Regards,

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Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 129k members/stakeholders strong!)
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [email-masked]
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801

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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 05:00:23 -0500
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ..."There are technical limits to the size of the DNS root zone..." ??

http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000016.html

Commentary by Karl Auerbach..."There are technical limits to the size of the DNS root zone - there simply isn't enough room to give
a name to everyone.  An allocation mechanism is necessary.  And perhaps there also needs to be a garbage collection mechanism as
well to reap dead allocations."

=====

Karl,

With all due respect, can you describe in detail how you have arrived at this conclusion ?

If I were answering the same question, from an IPv16 and IPv8 point of view, I would note that the architecture, software, systems
and business structure is tied to two key binary values, 32768 and 2048. We have "slots", as you call them, for 32,768 non-premium
TLDs and 2,048 Premium TLDs.

We draw from the Proof-of-Concept market tests that your company (ICANN) and others are helping to fund via the aging, toy, research
and development, educational, IPv4 Internet. The approach developed many years ago was to use the IPv4 Internet as a sand-box, where
experiments can be run with little or no risk to see what TLDs prosper and which crash and burn. It is also a place to guage where
the interest is in the marketplace. Software can track the experiments and then automagically do the allocation and garbage
collection as TLDs ebb and flow at a very slow pace. People that will be using the new software will not have to do anything, it
finds and caches the 2,048 Premium TLDs and the 32,768 TLDs that form the rest of the Dictionary.

Along with those TLD selections go Address Space Management rights. One simple way to look at that is that the 2,048 Premium TLD
Managers also become equivalent to what the 32-bit Internet I* society calls RIRs. They have 4 RIRs and some special,
seldom-mentioned, insiders. [ http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space ] A consistent cash flow goes to those insiders who
then provide the endorsement base for the rest of the I* society Multi-Level-Marketing (MLM) empire. With IPv8 and IPv16, there can
be thousands or tens of thousands, as opposed to a small group of insiders. It should be clear that the I* society insiders do not
want to change their system, because it funds there unlimited vacations all year, and other Internet activities.
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There can be thousands of InterNAT Address Space Managers, who make money while they sleep, leasing cyberspace to people. All they
have to do, is operate a TLD and provide both 32-bit DNS support and 128-bit DNS support. The Best-of-Breed TLDs will survive in the
free marketplace, stay tuned as .COM and .NET illustrate how this evolves. You will be invited to Re-Register the domain name
CaveBear.COM in the new systems, it will be your choice whether you want to preserve your name on the InterNAT.

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info

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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:28:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Kirikos <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] A registrar with shockingly bad WHOIS data....

Performing a WHOIS for vcnr.com:

whois -h whois.internic.net vcnr.com ...

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: VCNR.COM
   Registrar: VERISIGN GLOBAL REGISTRY SERVICES
   Whois Server: whois.verisign-grs.com
   Referral URL: http://www.verisign-grs.com
   Name Server: No nameserver
   Status: ACTIVE
   Updated Date: 25-dec-2002
   Creation Date: 24-dec-2001
   Expiration Date: 24-dec-2003

This registrar "Verisign Global Registry Services" is flouting the
rules, and its contractual requirements for WHOIS accuracy and required
elements, e.g. see:

http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm#3.3

In particular, the:

3.3.1.6 The name and postal address of the Registered Name Holder;

3.3.1.7 The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone
number, and (where available) fax number of the technical contact for
the Registered Name; and

3.3.1.8 The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone
number, and (where available) fax number of the administrative contact
for the Registered Name.

are all missing!

Some TM holder might have need to contact the owner of VCNR.com to file
a UDRP. Or perhaps the registrant (whoever that may be -- without WHOIS
data, how would we find out??!!??) would like to switch from their
current registrar to a better one, via a transfer --- difficult to do,
if there's no way to validate the identity of the registrant via the
WHOIS. 

Alas, perhaps ICANN should raise the bar, and not let just anyone gain
accreditation as a new registrar, like this wannabe registrar "VERISIGN
GLOBAL REGISTRY SERVICES" who so willingly violates its contractual
obligations, not providing proper public WHOIS data for their
registrants. Obviously, this newbie registrar isn't ready for
prime-time just yet.... 

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
http://www.GlobalDomination.com/ ;)
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