Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1652
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GA-DIGEST           Monday, March 31 2003           Volume 01 : Number 1652

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 08:28:04 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Do you consider .IT to be a so-called ccTLD ?

Do you consider .IT to be a so-called ccTLD ?

http://www.Register.IT

By the way, IN-ADDR.IT appears to exist...why would that exist in a so-called ccTLD ?
http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=205.214.45.10&Query=in-addr.it&Type=255&submit=Lookup

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info

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From: "Vittorio Bertola" <[email-masked]>
To: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [ga] A puzzle about ccTLDs and sovereignty

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:21:17 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
> 
> >I personally find it odd that many of the same people who see a ccTLD as
> >belonging to a state -- usually by some theory that it is an appurtenance
> >of sovereignty -- can also argue that the *sovereign* state is misusing it
> >if it leases it out or uses it for revenue.
> 
> Not at all - the point is different: since a ccTLD is to be managed by
> its country, then the country may decide to do whatever it wants with
> it. But it is the country that must do so, not ICANN/IANA on behalf of
> the U.S. government.
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 08:48:19 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] What is a so-called ccTLD ?

What is a so-called ccTLD ?

1. One of the possible 626 2-letter TLDs ?

2. A TLD that has a very restrictive set of second-level names ?

3. A TLD that has little interest to the American (North, South, East and West America) markets ?

4. A TLD that is controlled by Luddites ?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29756.html

5. A TLD without an IN-ADDR.[TLD] second-level DNS zone ?
6. A TLD with little or no infrastructure, money, whois, etc. ?
7. A TLD that places very little burden on the various root servers because it gets little use ?
8. A TLD that the U.S. Government is able to turn on and off from their root servers in Washington D.C. ?

Jim Fleming
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...home of the Top 2,048 TLDs of interest to people...

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:41:53 -0600
From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] =?Windows-1252?Q?.EU...The_European_Union=92s_expectations_=3F?=

http://ops.ietf.org/lists/v6ops/v6ops.2003/msg00488.html
"Almost a hundred projects are demonstrating that IPv6 is working well. The European Union’s expectations regarding the new
protocol, in order to support its leadership as a future economic power, are becoming real."
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:32:05 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] What is a so-called ccTLD ?

9. a TLD delegated by IANA in conformity with RFC 1591

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Jim Fleming wrote:

> What is a so-called ccTLD ?
> 
> 1. One of the possible 626 2-letter TLDs ?
> 
> 2. A TLD that has a very restrictive set of second-level names ?
> 
> 3. A TLD that has little interest to the American (North, South, East and West America) markets ?
> 
> 4. A TLD that is controlled by Luddites ?
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29756.html
> 
> 5. A TLD without an IN-ADDR.[TLD] second-level DNS zone ?
> 6. A TLD with little or no infrastructure, money, whois, etc. ?
> 7. A TLD that places very little burden on the various root servers because it gets little use ?
> 8. A TLD that the U.S. Government is able to turn on and off from their root servers in Washington D.C. ?
> 
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.IPv8.info
> ....home of the Top 2,048 TLDs of interest to people...
> 
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:06:43 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] .EU...The European Unions expectations ?

Jim and all former DNSO GA members or other interested parties,

  It is obvious from the tone and verbiage of the post you reference
Jim, that it is pure propaganda.  Very few ISP's are implementing
IPv6.  Fewer still have any interest in doing so in the EU.

Jim Fleming wrote:

> http://ops.ietf.org/lists/v6ops/v6ops.2003/msg00488.html
> "Almost a hundred projects are demonstrating that IPv6 is working well. The European Union’s expectations regarding the new
> protocol, in order to support its leadership as a future economic power, are becoming real."
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:17:00 -0500
From: Erick Iriarte Ahon <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] A puzzle about ccTLDs and sovereignty

Hi roberto

mira, que podes darle una leida a este documento.. que habla sobre dicho tema.

Sobre nombres de dominio, una propuesta para el debate (v. 1.04)
http://www.alfa-redi.org/upload/revista/20403--11-24-Sobre%20Nombres%20de%20dominio,%20una%20propuesta%20para%20el%20debate.pdf

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/cctldinfo/columbia_analysis.pdf

Saludos

Erick

At 05:34 p.m. 28/03/2003 +0000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>Michael Froomkin asked:
>
>>Is Burundi "misusing" postage
>>stamps if it creates them to sell to collectors?
>
>Obviously not.
>
>Would a private organization misuse Burundi postage stamps if it creates 
>them by delegation from a private body without official stamp ;>) of 
>approval by Burundi Government, and by doing so preventing the Burundi 
>Post Administration (or any authority delegated by them) to issue their 
>own for the use stamps are originally meant for?
>Probably yes.
>
>In other words, if the Tuvalu government wants to manage .tv for 
>commercial purposes, it is their right to do so. But it must be a 
>delegation that comes from the Tuvalu government, not by a private body 
>like IANA or ICANN. (No, I don't imply that the current TV-NIC acts 
>without the Tuvalu authorization, it's just an example)
>
>Anyway, if yours was meant to be a comment of a misuse from my part of the 
>term misuse, the point is taken. I have to admit that this long period of 
>lurking without posting has reduced my ability to get the point across in 
>a correct and understandable way. Sorry.
>
>Regards
>Roberto
>
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