Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1629
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GA-DIGEST          Wednesday, March 12 2003          Volume 01 : Number 1629

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:00:10 -0500
From: "L. Gallegos" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: The telephone network and the internet (RE: [ga] ALAC comment	s on proposed Bylaws modifications)

So, in order to get information that may make the decision to participate 
in anything re ITU, one must have cash to read the documents.  Then one 
must have cash in order to particiapte at all.  Therefore, most of the 
world's users will not participate because it is not feasible to expect 
that they will be able to afford that participation.  Therefore, most of 
what the ITU does in terms of recommendations is rather secretive since 
the information is not freely available except for those users who have 
the $$.  It then becomes a no brainer that ITU is not the viable answer to 
governance any more than ICANN is.  Bottom up?

Leah

On 11 Mar 2003 at 9:31, [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marc Schneiders [mailto:[email-masked]]
> > Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 21:43
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Cc: [email-masked]
> > Subject: RE: The telephone network and the internet (RE: [ga] ALAC
> > comment s on proposed Bylaws modifications)
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, at 14:31 [=GMT+0100], [email-masked] wrote:
> > 
> > > Anybody can download up to three ITU-T Recommendations per 
> > year for free
> > > from our web site.
> > >
> > > I agree that this is not the same as IETF or ICANN where 
> > everything is
> > > available for free.
> > 
> > Or WIPO, IIRC. Makes one think about IntProp.
> > 
> > It isn't enough, 3 texts. There are more than 3 documents 
> > about e.164. So
> > anyone interesting in _studying_ e.164, has to come up with cash, or
> > cannot get the full ITU picture. I must say that I find it outrageous
> > that we are charged to be able to participate. This does not at all
> > suggest that there is a open bottom up process. And even apart from
> > participation, standards should be freely available. It is the best road
> > to get them implemented, I guess.
> 
> These comments have been made before and discussed in ITU.  At present, the
> membership feels that it is appropriate to recover the costs of
> publication.
> 
> The topic will certainly continue to be discussed and the consensus might
> change in the future.
> 
> Best,
> Richard
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:05:47 +0530
From: "M.R. Madhava Murthy" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Fw: nic.net

Hello,

I am Madhava Murthy from SN Informatics Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore. I am
forwarding a reply received from NIC.NET. I request your help in sorting out
the problem faced by us.

To put our points, we are the web masters for the web site '
www.srisathyasai.org.in '. There is another site ' www.srisathyasai.org '
which was owned by Mr. Vinay Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web
site to our above-mentioned web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. We
notice that the web site www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of
questionable content. Can you please let us know how to proceed further in
the matter. In the first place, we would like to have the questionable
material from the .org site is removed. We need your guidance and advice.

When we looked into the who is search, we found the following:

                **************************
                OpenSRS Whois Lookup Utility

                Whois info for, srisathyasai.org:
                Registrant:
                 sathyasai
                 clos de la hetraie 7
                 waterloo,  1410
                 BE

                 Domain name: SRISATHYASAI.ORG

                 Administrative Contact:
                    saatci, ayk  [email-masked]
                clos de la hetraie 7
                waterloo,  1410
                BE
                +32 2 354 44 42
             Technical Contact:
                Registrar, Domain  [email-masked]
                1593 Chestnut Ave.
                Lompoc, CA 93436
                US
                805 740 1999    Fax: 508 448 1259

             Registration Service Provider:
                Digital Space Corp, [email-masked]
                805 740 1999
                http://www.digitalspace.net
                This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver
            changes, and general domain support questions.

             Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
             Record last updated on 01-Jan-2003.
             Record expires on 01-Jan-2004.
             Record Created on 01-Jan-2003.

             Domain servers in listed order:
                NS1.FROGSPACE.NET
                NS2.FROGSPACE.NET

            **************************

My initial observation is that the domain name, www.srisathyasai.org would
have expired and someone would have taken the same domain name. What is more
disturbing is the fact that the site has been taken and some unethical
content has been put there. Since the content is put in bad taste, it will
affect the minds of the visitors. Because of this reason, we would like to
know if we can get back the domain name and resolve the present crises.

I look forward to hearing from you the steps that are to be taken from our
end. In the meantime, I thank you in advance, for all the support that would
come from your end.

Regards

Madhava Murthy
[email-masked]

******************************************
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Support" <[email-masked]>
To: "Madhava Murthy MR" <[email-masked]>
Sent: 07/03/2003 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: nic.net

Hello,

We have received your domain name and looked into your account. We found
that your domain name is registered through TUCOWS. Thus, we are unable to
help you to change any information on this registration.

Your options:

1) Contact TUCOWS regarding your requested changes; or

2) Transfer the registration to Domain Bank and take advantage of our
registration expertise and superior customer service! You can begin this
process by going to Http://www.domainbank.com <http://www.domainbank.com>
and choosing the "Change Registrar" option at the top of the screen.
Instructions will accompany the process.

Once the transfer is completed you will receive a user name and password to
make changes securely and efficiently.

Again, our apologies for the confusion regarding your domain registration.

Thank you for using Domain Bank
Best Regards,
Natalie Hartman
Customer Support
Domain Bank, Inc.
http://www.domainbank.com
[email-masked]
Phone 1(888) 583-3382
Phone (610) 317-9606
Fax (610)317-9570

- -----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of Madhava Murthy MR
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:46 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: nic.net

Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
Madhava Murthy MR ([email-masked]) on Friday, March 7, 2003 at 04:45:31
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Phone: 91-80-3111237

Comments: We are the web masters for the web site 'www.srisathyasai.org.in'.
There is another site 'www.srisathyasai.org' which was owned by Mr. Vinay
Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web site to our above-mentioned
web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. Today we notice that the web site
www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of questionable content. Can you
please let us know how to proceed further in the matter. In the first place,
we would like to have the questionable material from the .org site is
removed. We need your guidance and advice.

Regards

Madhava Murthy

Submit: Submit

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:25:37 +0100
From: "DNSO SECRETARIAT" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] GNSO Council teleconf. March 11 MP 3 recording

[To: [email-masked]]
[To: [email-masked]]
[To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]]

Below please find the GNSO Council teleconference  MP3 recording of the
interviews with the 4 candidates, Michael Palage,
Philip Sheppard, Barbara Simons and Alejandro Pisanty for the ICANN Board
seat 14, March 11, 2003.

http://gnso:[email-masked]/gnso/GNSO20030311.mp3

GNSO Secretariat

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:45:20 +0100 (CET)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: nic.net

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, at 14:05 [=GMT+0530], M.R. Madhava Murthy wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am Madhava Murthy from SN Informatics Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore. I am
> forwarding a reply received from NIC.NET. I request your help in sorting out
> the problem faced by us.
>
> To put our points, we are the web masters for the web site '
> www.srisathyasai.org.in '. There is another site ' www.srisathyasai.org '
> which was owned by Mr. Vinay Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web
> site to our above-mentioned web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. We
> notice that the web site www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of
> questionable content.

You are completely out of luck. It looks like Mr. Rai let the domain
expire, after which it was registered by some ex member of your
organization. The site does not seem to have more than one page, the
content of which does not seem to go beyond stating that this is the site
of the "Ex Sai Baba devotees" in French and Dutch, the two main languages
spoken in Belgium, where the registrant is. All in all, nothing illegal.
Certainly not in Belgium.

> Can you please let us know how to proceed further in
> the matter. In the first place, we would like to have the questionable
> material from the .org site is removed. We need your guidance and advice.
>
> When we looked into the who is search, we found the following:
>
>                 **************************
>                 OpenSRS Whois Lookup Utility
>
>                 Whois info for, srisathyasai.org:
>                 Registrant:
>                  sathyasai
>                  clos de la hetraie 7
>                  waterloo,  1410
>                  BE
>
>                  Domain name: SRISATHYASAI.ORG
>
>                  Administrative Contact:
>                     saatci, ayk  [email-masked]
>                 clos de la hetraie 7
>                 waterloo,  1410
>                 BE
>                 +32 2 354 44 42
>              Technical Contact:
>                 Registrar, Domain  [email-masked]
>                 1593 Chestnut Ave.
>                 Lompoc, CA 93436
>                 US
>                 805 740 1999    Fax: 508 448 1259
>
>              Registration Service Provider:
>                 Digital Space Corp, [email-masked]
>                 805 740 1999
>                 http://www.digitalspace.net
>                 This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
> DNS/Nameserver
>             changes, and general domain support questions.
>
>              Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
>              Record last updated on 01-Jan-2003.
>              Record expires on 01-Jan-2004.
>              Record Created on 01-Jan-2003.
>
>              Domain servers in listed order:
>                 NS1.FROGSPACE.NET
>                 NS2.FROGSPACE.NET
>
>             **************************
>
> My initial observation is that the domain name, www.srisathyasai.org would
> have expired and someone would have taken the same domain name. What is more
> disturbing is the fact that the site has been taken and some unethical
> content has been put there. Since the content is put in bad taste, it will
> affect the minds of the visitors. Because of this reason, we would like to
> know if we can get back the domain name and resolve the present crises.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you the steps that are to be taken from our
> end. In the meantime, I thank you in advance, for all the support that would
> come from your end.
>
> Regards
>
> Madhava Murthy
> [email-masked]
>
>
> ******************************************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Support" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Madhava Murthy MR" <[email-masked]>
> Sent: 07/03/2003 11:47 PM
> Subject: RE: nic.net
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We have received your domain name and looked into your account. We found
> that your domain name is registered through TUCOWS. Thus, we are unable to
> help you to change any information on this registration.
>
> Your options:
>
> 1) Contact TUCOWS regarding your requested changes; or
>
> 2) Transfer the registration to Domain Bank and take advantage of our
> registration expertise and superior customer service! You can begin this
> process by going to Http://www.domainbank.com <http://www.domainbank.com>
> and choosing the "Change Registrar" option at the top of the screen.
> Instructions will accompany the process.
>
> Once the transfer is completed you will receive a user name and password to
> make changes securely and efficiently.
>
> Again, our apologies for the confusion regarding your domain registration.
>
>
> Thank you for using Domain Bank
> Best Regards,
> Natalie Hartman
> Customer Support
> Domain Bank, Inc.
> http://www.domainbank.com
> [email-masked]
> Phone 1(888) 583-3382
> Phone (610) 317-9606
> Fax (610)317-9570
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of Madhava Murthy MR
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:46 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: nic.net
>
>
> Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> Madhava Murthy MR ([email-masked]) on Friday, March 7, 2003 at 04:45:31
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Phone: 91-80-3111237
>
> Comments: We are the web masters for the web site 'www.srisathyasai.org.in'.
> There is another site 'www.srisathyasai.org' which was owned by Mr. Vinay
> Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web site to our above-mentioned
> web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. Today we notice that the web site
> www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of questionable content. Can you
> please let us know how to proceed further in the matter. In the first place,
> we would like to have the questionable material from the .org site is
> removed. We need your guidance and advice.
>
> Regards
>
> Madhava Murthy
>
> Submit: Submit
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:00:09 -0600
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: nic.net

At 12:45 AM +0100 3/12/03, Marc Schneiders wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, at 14:05 [=GMT+0530], M.R. Madhava Murthy wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am Madhava Murthy from SN Informatics Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore. I am
>> forwarding a reply received from NIC.NET. I request your help in sorting out
>> the problem faced by us.
>>
>> To put our points, we are the web masters for the web site '
>> www.srisathyasai.org.in '. There is another site ' www.srisathyasai.org '
>> which was owned by Mr. Vinay Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web
>> site to our above-mentioned web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. We
>> notice that the web site www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of
>> questionable content.
>
>You are completely out of luck. It looks like Mr. Rai let the domain
>expire, after which it was registered by some ex member of your
>organization. The site does not seem to have more than one page, the
>content of which does not seem to go beyond stating that this is the site
>of the "Ex Sai Baba devotees" in French and Dutch, the two main languages
>spoken in Belgium, where the registrant is. All in all, nothing illegal.
>Certainly not in Belgium.

Yes. Situation surely not helped by the MORON at Domain Bank not
reading/investigating the complaint correctly and suggesting they transfer
the name to their Registrar service (which would be an attempted name
hijacking).

>
>> Can you please let us know how to proceed further in
>> the matter. In the first place, we would like to have the questionable
>> material from the .org site is removed. We need your guidance and advice.
>>
>> When we looked into the who is search, we found the following:
>>
>>                 **************************
>>                 OpenSRS Whois Lookup Utility
>>
>>                 Whois info for, srisathyasai.org:
>>                 Registrant:
>>                  sathyasai
>>                  clos de la hetraie 7
>>                  waterloo,  1410
>>                  BE
>>
>>                  Domain name: SRISATHYASAI.ORG
>>
>>                  Administrative Contact:
>>                     saatci, ayk  [email-masked]
>>                 clos de la hetraie 7
>>                 waterloo,  1410
>>                 BE
>>                 +32 2 354 44 42
>>              Technical Contact:
>>                 Registrar, Domain  [email-masked]
>>                 1593 Chestnut Ave.
>>                 Lompoc, CA 93436
>>                 US
>>                 805 740 1999    Fax: 508 448 1259
>>
>>              Registration Service Provider:
>>                 Digital Space Corp, [email-masked]
>>                 805 740 1999
>>                 http://www.digitalspace.net
>>                 This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
>> DNS/Nameserver
>>             changes, and general domain support questions.
>>
>>              Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
>>              Record last updated on 01-Jan-2003.
>>              Record expires on 01-Jan-2004.
>>              Record Created on 01-Jan-2003.
>>
>>              Domain servers in listed order:
>>                 NS1.FROGSPACE.NET
>>                 NS2.FROGSPACE.NET
>>
>>             **************************
>>
>> My initial observation is that the domain name, www.srisathyasai.org would
>> have expired and someone would have taken the same domain name. What is more
>> disturbing is the fact that the site has been taken and some unethical
>> content has been put there. Since the content is put in bad taste, it will
>> affect the minds of the visitors. Because of this reason, we would like to
>> know if we can get back the domain name and resolve the present crises.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you the steps that are to be taken from our
>> end. In the meantime, I thank you in advance, for all the support that would
>> come from your end.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Madhava Murthy
>> [email-masked]
>>
>>
>> ******************************************
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Support" <[email-masked]>
>> To: "Madhava Murthy MR" <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: 07/03/2003 11:47 PM
>> Subject: RE: nic.net
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have received your domain name and looked into your account. We found
>> that your domain name is registered through TUCOWS. Thus, we are unable to
>> help you to change any information on this registration.
>>
>> Your options:
>>
>> 1) Contact TUCOWS regarding your requested changes; or
>>
>> 2) Transfer the registration to Domain Bank and take advantage of our
>> registration expertise and superior customer service! You can begin this
>> process by going to Http://www.domainbank.com <http://www.domainbank.com>
>> and choosing the "Change Registrar" option at the top of the screen.
>> Instructions will accompany the process.
>>
>> Once the transfer is completed you will receive a user name and password to
>> make changes securely and efficiently.
>>
>> Again, our apologies for the confusion regarding your domain registration.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for using Domain Bank
>> Best Regards,
>> Natalie Hartman
>> Customer Support
>> Domain Bank, Inc.
>> http://www.domainbank.com
>> [email-masked]
>> Phone 1(888) 583-3382
>> Phone (610) 317-9606
>> Fax (610)317-9570
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
>> Of Madhava Murthy MR
>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:46 AM
>> To: [email-masked]
>> Subject: nic.net
>>
>>
>> Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
>> Madhava Murthy MR ([email-masked]) on Friday, March 7, 2003 at 04:45:31
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Phone: 91-80-3111237
>>
>> Comments: We are the web masters for the web site 'www.srisathyasai.org.in'.
>> There is another site 'www.srisathyasai.org' which was owned by Mr. Vinay
>> Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web site to our above-mentioned
>> web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. Today we notice that the web site
>> www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of questionable content. Can you
>> please let us know how to proceed further in the matter. In the first place,
>> we would like to have the questionable material from the .org site is
>> removed. We need your guidance and advice.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Madhava Murthy
>>
>> Submit: Submit
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare?
Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:22:31 +1300
From: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] ITU and the ccTLDs (was RE: The telephone network and the internet 

On 8 Mar 2003 at 15:43, Karl Auerbach wrote:

> 
> Let's compare the who has power in ICANN against who has power in the
> ITU and see which gives the internet user community a better chance at
> having an impact:
> 

Can I make the point (forgive me for the repetition) that this discussion is not about 
the cctld registries, (nor their millions of cctld registrants ) who are not yet part of 
ICANN, and of whom only a tiny fraction have contracts with ICANN?

Local internet communities including governments make their impact on their cctld 
manager by sovereign national processes, and don't need/can't use impact at 
ICANN.

What you are talking about is g-tld policy making, in which ICANN is to be the 
equivalent of the local internet community to which each cctld relates.

The issue in that forum is the best way for governmental views to be provided for.

The cctld world, in its complexity, may provide some guidance, as it demonstrates a 
range of models of how the (unitary) government relates to the registry, and how the 
rest of that local community are provided for. In my country, for example, the 
registry is run as a for-profit company, but is wholly owned by a not-for-profit 
incorporated society, which is open to all interested in making policy for the dotnz 
space (or any of the other actiivities of Internet New Zealand). There is no official 
government role or connection, but the relationship with government is an important 
one, and there is frequent exchange.

Some countries do the same, others differ, along a gradient of government 
involvement culminating in total government ownership and policy control.

Clearly, the ITU, as a forum for governments, and in which only governments vote, 
albeit with a mechanism for listening to private sector groups, poses a solution to a 
different problem than exists between the cctlds and ICANN.

Nor does it appear to provide a solution for those (few) cctlds in which there is a 
conflict between the cctld manager and the government, or, as happens, with 
separate branches of a government in internal conflict over IT policy, or in 
case of civil war, where there are rival claimants to be the relevant government.

But it might provide another forum for governments to establish jointly what position 
they want to take on issues of g-tld policy, and to bring that position to the GAC, 
where the ITU has its own seat, and where, if there were a united governmmental 
position, a GAC position might quickly emerge.

Such a position would then need to be responded to by the rest of the g-tld policy 
making process, in which, as in my country, the (now multiple ) government view is 
one of the factors that go into determining what is best for the entire g-tld 
community.

The same is true of IP address issues, and other related matters in which 
governments have an interest.

At heart, though is whether one accepts a fundamental principle of the White Paper, 
which is that management of internet resources is to be government free.

My preference for ICANN is for a situation as applies in many of the cctlds, where a 
publicly accessible, private sector, transparent, bottom-up organisation is vested 
with management by a community including the government, which trusts the 
organisation to exercise its management functions in the benefit of the entire 
community, and which works collaboratively with that orgnanisation to ensure this 
occurs.

If we were to begin to reach that, we could turn our attention to the next issue, which 
would be to ensure that that ICANN was as independent of US governmental 
influence as of any other.

regards

Peter Dengate Thrush

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:02:12 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: nic.net

Mr. Madhava and all Former DNSO GA members,

  I did not see any validity in you point that www.srisathyasai.org contained
any "Questionable Content" on that web site.

  In any event the DNSO GA or the DNSO/GNSO is not the proper or
appropriate forum to seek resolution to a problem of content that you
or any other stakeholder/user may have.

M.R. Madhava Murthy wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am Madhava Murthy from SN Informatics Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore. I am
> forwarding a reply received from NIC.NET. I request your help in sorting out
> the problem faced by us.
>
> To put our points, we are the web masters for the web site '
> www.srisathyasai.org.in '. There is another site ' www.srisathyasai.org '
> which was owned by Mr. Vinay Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web
> site to our above-mentioned web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. We
> notice that the web site www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of
> questionable content. Can you please let us know how to proceed further in
> the matter. In the first place, we would like to have the questionable
> material from the .org site is removed. We need your guidance and advice.
>
> When we looked into the who is search, we found the following:
>
>                 **************************
>                 OpenSRS Whois Lookup Utility
>
>                 Whois info for, srisathyasai.org:
>                 Registrant:
>                  sathyasai
>                  clos de la hetraie 7
>                  waterloo,  1410
>                  BE
>
>                  Domain name: SRISATHYASAI.ORG
>
>                  Administrative Contact:
>                     saatci, ayk  [email-masked]
>                 clos de la hetraie 7
>                 waterloo,  1410
>                 BE
>                 +32 2 354 44 42
>              Technical Contact:
>                 Registrar, Domain  [email-masked]
>                 1593 Chestnut Ave.
>                 Lompoc, CA 93436
>                 US
>                 805 740 1999    Fax: 508 448 1259
>
>              Registration Service Provider:
>                 Digital Space Corp, [email-masked]
>                 805 740 1999
>                 http://www.digitalspace.net
>                 This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
> DNS/Nameserver
>             changes, and general domain support questions.
>
>              Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
>              Record last updated on 01-Jan-2003.
>              Record expires on 01-Jan-2004.
>              Record Created on 01-Jan-2003.
>
>              Domain servers in listed order:
>                 NS1.FROGSPACE.NET
>                 NS2.FROGSPACE.NET
>
>             **************************
>
> My initial observation is that the domain name, www.srisathyasai.org would
> have expired and someone would have taken the same domain name. What is more
> disturbing is the fact that the site has been taken and some unethical
> content has been put there. Since the content is put in bad taste, it will
> affect the minds of the visitors. Because of this reason, we would like to
> know if we can get back the domain name and resolve the present crises.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you the steps that are to be taken from our
> end. In the meantime, I thank you in advance, for all the support that would
> come from your end.
>
> Regards
>
> Madhava Murthy
> [email-masked]
>
> ******************************************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Support" <[email-masked]>
> To: "Madhava Murthy MR" <[email-masked]>
> Sent: 07/03/2003 11:47 PM
> Subject: RE: nic.net
>
> Hello,
>
> We have received your domain name and looked into your account. We found
> that your domain name is registered through TUCOWS. Thus, we are unable to
> help you to change any information on this registration.
>
> Your options:
>
> 1) Contact TUCOWS regarding your requested changes; or
>
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>
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> make changes securely and efficiently.
>
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>
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> Customer Support
> Domain Bank, Inc.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of Madhava Murthy MR
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:46 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: nic.net
>
> Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by
> Madhava Murthy MR ([email-masked]) on Friday, March 7, 2003 at 04:45:31
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Phone: 91-80-3111237
>
> Comments: We are the web masters for the web site 'www.srisathyasai.org.in'.
> There is another site 'www.srisathyasai.org' which was owned by Mr. Vinay
> Rai. On our request, he had redirected his web site to our above-mentioned
> web site i.e., www.srisathyasai.org.in. Today we notice that the web site
> www.srisathyasai.org is having a page of questionable content. Can you
> please let us know how to proceed further in the matter. In the first place,
> we would like to have the questionable material from the .org site is
> removed. We need your guidance and advice.
>
> Regards
>
> Madhava Murthy
>
> Submit: Submit
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:08:03 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: The telephone network and the internet (RE: [ga] ALAC comment s on proposed Bylaws modifications)

Richard and all former DNSO GA members or other interested parties,

[email-masked] wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:[email-masked]]
> > Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 23:14
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> > Subject: Re: The telephone network and the internet (RE: [ga] ALAC
> > comment s on proposed Bylaws modifications)
> >
> >
> > Richard and all former DNSO GA members or other interested parties,
> >
> > How many free downloadable recommendations
> > do ITU member organizations get?
>
> Sector Members have full access to all the information on the ITU's web
> site.

  That did not answer my question, Richard.  Do those members have
unlimited FREE access or not?  If so, please delineate.

>
>
> >  Do associate members get
> > any extra free recommendations?
>
> Associates have access to the information for the Study Group of which they
> are members.

  Again this is not an answer to my question Richard.  Is such access free
or not to associate members?  Are all such recommendations free to
associate members?  If not, how many are or are not?

>
>
> Best,
> Richard

Regards,

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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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