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GA-DIGEST           Tuesday, June 11 2002           Volume 01 : Number 1270

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:13:09 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

At 11:07 AM +1200 6/11/02, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the
>software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he opposes
>"alternate" roots and wants their very discussion off limits here should
>help make people their informed choices.

You'd rather one of those alternate root nutcases wrote it? :^)

C'mon Joop, if you'e gonna bitch, find something worthwhile to bitch about.

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:29:31 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Jerry Falwell won't get Jerryfalwell.com WIPO says...

Eric and all assembly members,

  Eric, I think that in part, you miss the point.  That being that WIPO
and the UDRP process with this recent decision as a glaring example
on a religious front, is disjointed and inconsistent.

  No one is denying Jerry Falwells freedom of speech in this WIPO
decision, but perhaps his claim to his own name as part of a
Domain Name in Jerryfalwell.com.  But than again Jerry himself
did not register it first, so it seems that now WIPO is reversing itself
with respect to IP rights in this decision...  Go figure!

[email-masked] wrote:

> Well Jeffy my man you put it out there;
>
> I think it is damnable deplorable and outright scandalous (although Jerry
> and I do not see eye to eye).
>
> But I would gladly give my very life to allow him the right to have such
> freedom of speech.
> We all owe a duty to our lessor enabled brothers and sisters to defend the
> freedoms which are inalienable.
> Each culture and ccTLD must decide for themselves what works within their
> LIC but the more freedom the better for all of us concerned.
>
> I do not necessarily agree with Jerry's virtue, but I will walk my children
> through both sites to make sure that they understand the hazards and
> correctness for standing for something.
>
> The Internet will fall for anything if it does not stand for freedom of
> thought and communication.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > All assembly members,
> >
> >   More WIPO logic.  See:
> > http://www.citizen.org/hot_issues/issue.cfm?ID=261
> >
> > Excerpts: "The Rev. Jerry Falwell's attempts to shut down a Web site
> >                  that uses his name in its address and parodies some of
> >                  Falwell's statements have the goal of bullying Internet
> >                  posters and suppressing dissent, a response filed today
> >                  by Public Citizen with the World Intellectual Property
> >                 Organization (WIPO) says.
> >
> >                 Illinois resident Gary Cohn maintains a non-commercial
> >                 site under the domain names jerryfalwell.com and
> >                 jerryfallwell.com. The site makes fun of Falwell for
> >                 blaming the September 11 attacks on the supposed moral
> >                 decline of America and parodies the way Falwell cites
> >                 Bible verses to make moral judgments."
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:14:28 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [ga] Jerry Falwell won't get Jerryfalwell.com WIPO says...

Oh lordy NO!!

I was referring to the others' right to free speech.
Jerry has his rights dialled in to the mainstream, presidents and colleges and
all that.
No it is like ICON we have to protect those with out the connections.

But you are absolutely right we have no rights if they are inconsistent.  Someone
once said that "results without proper process is bullshit" {was that you or me?}

I must condemn WIPE until they get consistent and begin a practised policy of
protecting rights of individuals rather than corporate America like Vints' MCI
and Marilyns' ATT.

Hey who is going to bid on dotORG that wants to do it because people deserve it?
Hey who is going to file a lawsuit over WLS?
Hey who is going to go down to ZA SA and back hand some politicians?
Hey who is going to jump into our BoDs' face and simply explain that they are
lame ass idiots?
Hey who is going to bitchslapp our DNSO NC into understanding the concept of Task
Forces versus WGs?
6 versus 9 members on the elected BoD versus no members.
Who is going to explain running a GA as opposed to censorship and self
editorialism to TR and AS.

And we have time to complain about a crooked UDRP?

Thanks for the open door to rant.

Sincerely,
Eric

(sorry just lost my right eye again so my writing may be bad, danged developing
country' bacteria)

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
>   Eric, I think that in part, you miss the point.  That being that WIPO
> and the UDRP process with this recent decision as a glaring example
> on a religious front, is disjointed and inconsistent.
>
>   No one is denying Jerry Falwells freedom of speech in this WIPO
> decision, but perhaps his claim to his own name as part of a
> Domain Name in Jerryfalwell.com.  But than again Jerry himself
> did not register it first, so it seems that now WIPO is reversing itself
> with respect to IP rights in this decision...  Go figure!
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > Well Jeffy my man you put it out there;
> >
> > I think it is damnable deplorable and outright scandalous (although Jerry
> > and I do not see eye to eye).
> >
> > But I would gladly give my very life to allow him the right to have such
> > freedom of speech.
> > We all owe a duty to our lessor enabled brothers and sisters to defend the
> > freedoms which are inalienable.
> > Each culture and ccTLD must decide for themselves what works within their
> > LIC but the more freedom the better for all of us concerned.
> >
> > I do not necessarily agree with Jerry's virtue, but I will walk my children
> > through both sites to make sure that they understand the hazards and
> > correctness for standing for something.
> >
> > The Internet will fall for anything if it does not stand for freedom of
> > thought and communication.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > All assembly members,
> > >
> > >   More WIPO logic.  See:
> > > http://www.citizen.org/hot_issues/issue.cfm?ID=261
> > >
> > > Excerpts: "The Rev. Jerry Falwell's attempts to shut down a Web site
> > >                  that uses his name in its address and parodies some of
> > >                  Falwell's statements have the goal of bullying Internet
> > >                  posters and suppressing dissent, a response filed today
> > >                  by Public Citizen with the World Intellectual Property
> > >                 Organization (WIPO) says.
> > >
> > >                 Illinois resident Gary Cohn maintains a non-commercial
> > >                 site under the domain names jerryfalwell.com and
> > >                 jerryfallwell.com. The site makes fun of Falwell for
> > >                 blaming the September 11 attacks on the supposed moral
> > >                 decline of America and parodies the way Falwell cites
> > >                 Bible verses to make moral judgments."
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > > E-Mail [email-masked]
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> > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:57:08 -0400
From: "L. Gallegos" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

POSSR is a domain registration system, not a rootzone.  That would be 
applicable to any registration system in any TLD in any root.  I have no 
idea why you would bring that up here.  Also, my understanding is that he 
was one of the programmers and was not the finishing programmer.  However, 
I am not certain of those facts.  In any case it is not pertinent to the 
discussion of traffic monitoring and roots.  Why you continue to single 
out one entity is beyond me, other than an ongoing personal dislike for an 
individual.  I wish you would stop this line of posting and stay with the 
subject matter.  If you do not like pacroot (the rootzone), then don't use 
it.  There are other choices - the point I was making.

Leah

On 11 Jun 2002, at 11:07, Joop Teernstra wrote:

> At 11:54 a.m. 10/06/2002 -0400, L. Gallegos wrote:
> >Hmmmm, perhaps that is why choice is good, Joop, although I can't think of
> >a reason why pacroot would want to monitor traffic in the manner to which
> >Joe refers.
> 
> Leah,
> 
> I agree that in general choice is good and that single points of failure
> should be avoided, but my whole point was that the choice should always be
> an *informed* choice.
> 
> Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the 
> software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he opposes
> "alternate" roots and wants their very discussion off limits here should
> help make people their informed choices.
> 
> --Joop
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:29:04 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

Monday, June 10, 2002, 4:07:20 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:

> Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the 
> software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he opposes 
> "alternate" roots

And I despise you, in public and private, Joop.  However, if you
contracted with me to write you a piece of software, I'd do it too.

So your point, as usual, falls flat.

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:33:44 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

WXW and all assembly members,

William X Walsh wrote:

> Monday, June 10, 2002, 4:07:20 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the
> > software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he opposes
> > "alternate" roots
>
> And I despise you, in public and private, Joop.  However, if you
> contracted with me to write you a piece of software, I'd do it too.

  It is a terrible shame that anyone should make such a declaration
publicly not to mention even privately, WXW.  To harbor such
attitudes clearly shows a lack of perspective and understanding.

>
>
> So your point, as usual, falls flat.

  Not as flat as yours above...

>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 00:08:58 -0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

I am disgusted beyond belief at this statement.
It is not a statement of amorality but a statement of immorality.
To suggest hatred of a man and then agree to work for him for money is
illness.

In that ICANN supports and encourages this man it is a shame upon the
Staff.
"I dispise you but will work for you for money" is ill and wrong.
You censor a man for over posting but you allow such corrupt behaviour?
This has crossed the line of morality in any sense.

Eric

William X Walsh wrote:

> Monday, June 10, 2002, 4:07:20 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the
> > software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he opposes
> > "alternate" roots
>
> And I despise you, in public and private, Joop.  However, if you
> contracted with me to write you a piece of software, I'd do it too.
>
> So your point, as usual, falls flat.
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:16:56 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

At 12:08 AM -0700 6/11/02, [email-masked] wrote:
>I am disgusted beyond belief at this statement.
>It is not a statement of amorality but a statement of immorality.
>To suggest hatred of a man and then agree to work for him for money is
>illness.

You'd rather work with the guy that goes around calling people Nazi's when
he doesn't get his way?

>In that ICANN supports and encourages this man it is a shame upon the
>Staff.

Whoops! You's posting about immorality, and you want the ICANN _STAFF_ to
be somehow upset? They wrote the book!

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:13:55 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 12:16:56 AM, Andy Gardner wrote:

>>In that ICANN supports and encourages this man it is a shame upon the
>>Staff.

> Whoops! You's posting about immorality, and you want the ICANN _STAFF_ to
> be somehow upset? They wrote the book!

The really amusing part of Eric's post was that he suggested ICANN
supports and encourages me, or that somehow I am tied to the ICANN
staff.

It shows a complete separation from reality.

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:15:29 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] US Senator vows to rein in ICANN

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020611/wr_nm/tech_icann_dc_1

Some excepts:

A U.S. senator said he would try to rein in the group that oversees
the Internet's traffic system, calling for a more direct U.S.
government role in the ostensibly international and independent body.

If ICANN failed to cooperate, Burns said, it could be stripped of its
authority when its contract comes up for renewal this fall.

In a statement released two days before a Senate subcommittee is
scheduled to hold hearings on the global body, Burns said the change
was necessary because ICANN has exceeded its authority, does not
operate in an open fashion, and is dangerously unaccountable to
Internet users, businesses and other key interest groups.

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:07:26 +0200
From: Alexander Svensson <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] FYI: GAO comments on ICANN

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020611/pl_nm/tech_icann_dc_2

A Reuters article by Andy Sullivan already contains some bits from
the General Accounting Office testimony:

>[...]
>
>ICANN is not a part of the U.S. government, but operates under a
>1998 contract with the Department of Commerce that requires it to
>meet several conditions before it assumes full control of the
>domain-name system.
>
>But it is uncertain whether ICANN will ever meet those conditions
>and obtain full control, according to a congressional investigator's
>prepared testimony obtained by Reuters.
>
>[...]
>
>ICANN has introduced competition into the domain-name business, driving
>down Web-site registration prices from around $50 to $10, according
>to testimony prepared by Peter Guerrero, a director of the General
>Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress.
>
>But it has made little progress toward fulfilling other requirements
>such as boosting security of the domain-name system and setting up
>an inclusive governance process, Guerrero said.
>
>ICANN has made little progress in formalizing relationships with other
>volunteer groups that oversee aspects of the domain-name system, he said.
>
>"Until these issues are resolved, the timing and eventual outcome of
>the transition effort remain highly uncertain, and ICANN's legitimacy
>and effectiveness as the private-sector manager of the domain-name
>system remain in question," Guerrero said in his written testimony.
>
>[...]

BTW: In the article, a U.S. Senator calls for even more U.S.
control over ICANN:

>"The U.S. needs to ensure ICANN operates with the same sort of
>internal processes as in any other federal agency," he said.

*Any other*??!

Best regards,
/// Alexander

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 04:53:46 +0200
From: Alexander Svensson <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] .org bidders?

Internet Society + Afilias
  http://www.isoc.org
  http://www.afilias.info
  (see http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg01921.html)

UnityRegistry (Poptel + AusRegistry)
  http://www.unityregistry.org/
  http://www.poptel.coop
  http://www.ausregistry.com.au/

Global Name Registry?
  (http://www.orgbid.org)
  --> Registrant: Hakon Haugnes, GNR Co-Founder
  http://www.gnr.name

NeuStar/NeuLevel?
  http://www.neustar.com
  http://www.neulevel.biz
  http://www.neustar.us

Register.com?
  http://www.register.com

Org Alliance?
  (http://www.orgalliance.org)
  (http://www.org-alliance.org)
  --> Registrant: Jin Ho Hur, 
      Founding Chairman Asia & Pacific Internet Association (APIA)

Dot Org Alliance?
  (http://www.dotorgalliance.org)
  --> Registrant: Mike Roberts, former ICANN CEO

Are any others in sight, are any of those mentioned above
collaborating or not making a bid?

Best regards,
/// Alexander 

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:50:52 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] .org bidders?

Monday, June 10, 2002, 7:53:46 PM, Alexander Svensson wrote:

> Global Name Registry?
>   (http://www.orgbid.org)
>   --> Registrant: Hakon Haugnes, GNR Co-Founder
>   http://www.gnr.name

> Are any others in sight, are any of those mentioned above
> collaborating or not making a bid?

Quick question, if anyone knows, who is handling the registry services
for GNR's .name registry?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:15:09 +1200
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

At 10:29 p.m. 10/06/2002 -0700, William X Walsh wrote:
>Monday, June 10, 2002, 4:07:20 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the
> > software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he 
> opposes
> > "alternate" roots
>
>And I despise you, in public and private, Joop.  However, if you
>contracted with me to write you a piece of software, I'd do it too.

The points that you do not want to get  are still standing:

1.  When it comes to surveillance or customer treatment AltRoots are as 
much in need of public confidence as the  ICANN/USG root.    Rogue roots 
are utterly unaccountable.
2.  Registry software for pacificroot is written by someone who professes 
publicly to be against alternate roots.

You want to spin this as a matter of personal dislike-- I don't. I say that 
either the software coder is unprincipled and the rogue foolish or things 
are not what they seem.
If a sensible altroot operator  was in need of registry software, would he 
ever contract with someone whom he knew as an opponent of the very idea?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:04:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Baptista <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

This whole discussion is pointless and irrelevant.  The issue has nothing
to do with the integrety of the alt roots.  The issue is maintaining the
integrety and security of any root - and these days the only way any
government can guarantee that is to run it's own root system.

regards
joe

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Joop Teernstra wrote:

> At 10:29 p.m. 10/06/2002 -0700, William X Walsh wrote:
> >Monday, June 10, 2002, 4:07:20 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> > > Awareness of the fact that William X. Walsh contracted to write the
> > > software (POSSR2) for pacificroot , but maintains in public that he
> > opposes
> > > "alternate" roots
> >
> >And I despise you, in public and private, Joop.  However, if you
> >contracted with me to write you a piece of software, I'd do it too.
>
> The points that you do not want to get  are still standing:
>
> 1.  When it comes to surveillance or customer treatment AltRoots are as
> much in need of public confidence as the  ICANN/USG root.    Rogue roots
> are utterly unaccountable.
> 2.  Registry software for pacificroot is written by someone who professes
> publicly to be against alternate roots.
>
> You want to spin this as a matter of personal dislike-- I don't. I say that
> either the software coder is unprincipled and the rogue foolish or things
> are not what they seem.
> If a sensible altroot operator  was in need of registry software, would he
> ever contract with someone whom he knew as an opponent of the very idea?
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:21:38 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] i just sent the following to south africa

At 11:15 PM +1200 6/11/02, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>If a sensible altroot operator  was in need of registry software, would he
>ever contract with someone whom he knew as an opponent of the very idea?

Well, unlike the polling system you "provided" to the IDNO, I'm guessing
WXW provided source code to Pacific Root, allowing them to feel secure
about what was going on within all those 1's and 0's.

You operate under the Microsoft "you'll have to trust me" business model.

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We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare?
Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:06:42 +0200
From: "J-F C. (Jefsey)  Morfin" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Internet Central Agency for Names and Numbers.

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"The U.S. needs to ensure ICANN operates with the same sort of internal 
processes as in any other federal agency" Sen. Conrad Burns, a Montana 
Republican, Senate science, technology and space subcommittee.

Interesting to see the language is the same as Joe Sims' who talked about 
the transparency practices of "the other federal agencies". The consensus 
is forming.

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:02:58 -0700
From: Sandy Harris <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Internet Central Agency for Names and Numbers.

"J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" wrote:
> 
> "The U.S. needs to ensure ICANN operates with the same sort of internal
> processes as in any other federal agency" Sen. Conrad Burns, a Montana
> Republican, Senate science, technology and space subcommittee.
> 
> Interesting to see the language is the same as Joe Sims' who talked about
> the transparency practices of "the other federal agencies". The consensus
> is forming.

Perhaps, but it appears to me this begs the question. Is ICANN a
"federal
agency" of the US gov't?

If it is, then it's operation must comply with US law, in particular the
Administrative Procedures Act and various constitutional limitations on
gov't agencies. See Froomkin's "Wrong Turn in Cyberspace" paper 
(link on his home page, http://personal.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/)
for detailed discussion.

If it is not, then the first questions to come up are why the Senator
thinks it is and what Sims (who should know ICANN's legal status if
anyone does) is talking about.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:45:51 -0400
From: "James Love" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] NYC PC repair question

I have a colleague who works in NYC, and desperately needs to find a repair
shop that can be trusted to mount a PC Windows hard drive and back up the
data.  The boot sector or registry is apparently damaged, so it probably has
to be mounted as an additional drive.     Suggestions are appreciated.

Jamie

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:08:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] NYC PC repair question

James,

This is not a forum where one might find a repair technicaion in NYC. 
Posts such as these realy divert the forum and clutter hundreds of mail
boxes. 

if anything please stay [remotely] on topic.

- -rick

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, James Love wrote:

> I have a colleague who works in NYC, and desperately needs to find a repair
> shop that can be trusted to mount a PC Windows hard drive and back up the
> data.  The boot sector or registry is apparently damaged, so it probably has
> to be mounted as an additional drive.     Suggestions are appreciated.
> 
> Jamie
> 
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> James Love mailto:[email-masked]
> http://www.cptech.org +1.202.387.8030 mobile +1.202.361.3040
> 
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