Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1164
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GA-DIGEST            Tuesday, May 7 2002            Volume 01 : Number 1164

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:29:12 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Slashdot.

Monday, May 06, 2002, 1:40:53 PM, Thomas Roessler wrote:

> Alexander found this.

> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/04/1839234

That explains the new comers coming here and posting that single
message.

People who have never participated in the process.

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:46:36 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] More stupid proposed laws regarding the dns

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29041-2002May3.html
Porn site owners who use domain names likely to entice children could
be fined and imprisoned under legislation introduced in the U.S. House
of Representatives on Thursday.

The "Truth in Domain Names Act," would make it a crime to use a
misleading Web site name to trick minors into visiting pornographic
Web sites.

The legislation would outlaw porn sites with seemingly benign names,
such as www.teens.com, www.cheerleaders.com, and www.whitehouse.com.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28812-2002May3.html
"Internet users who knowingly submit incorrect contact information
when registering Web addresses could face up to five years in jail
under legislation introduced in the House of Representatives this
week."

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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 20:13:58 -0400
From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Slashdot.

William X Walsh wrote:

>Monday, May 06, 2002, 1:40:53 PM, Thomas Roessler wrote:
>
>>Alexander found this.
>>
>
>>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/04/1839234
>>
>
>That explains the new comers coming here and posting that single
>message.
>
>People who have never participated in the process.
>
Plenty of longtime voting GA registrants have never participated in the 
"process" and yet they have voted in the past votes.

I think it's great that we have new members, and I'd like to be the 
first to welcome them.

Sincerely,

Sotiris Sotiropoulos

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:35:45 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Washington Internet Daily reports on the motion for a re-bid

Monday, May 06, 2002, 4:53:04 PM, Richard Henderson wrote:

> The fact that this motion is now being so publicly discussed in influential Washington circles will in my opinion send a clear message to DoC that the concept of a re-bid is a realistic
> possibility, given the widespread criticism closing in on ICANN from so many quarters.

It does no such thing, it only illustrates how easily it is to capture
the GA for specific intentions.

All Jamie and his supporters have done is prove ICANN right about the
GA.

He and the rest of his supporters should be ashamed, very ashamed.

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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 17:57:42 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Slashdot.

We really have to do some thinking here.

Do you want new people or not.  You cannot greet them with a closed club
attitude and act like they do not belong here if they have not been here
and really do any kind of outreach.  You cannot only welcome seasoned
engineers and expect this bottoms up experiment to work.

I am very sorry but you all will be replaced by folks like me if you run
and outreach of any real significance.

I mean this as a note to Joannas' logo concept also, in the al.com.  Do you
really want us non-technical types around helping to formulate policy?

The real work is in the real world.

Sincerely,
eric

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> William X Walsh wrote:
>
> >Monday, May 06, 2002, 1:40:53 PM, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> >
> >>Alexander found this.
> >>
> >
> >>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/04/1839234
> >>
> >
> >That explains the new comers coming here and posting that single
> >message.
> >
> >People who have never participated in the process.
> >
> Plenty of longtime voting GA registrants have never participated in the
> "process" and yet they have voted in the past votes.
>
> I think it's great that we have new members, and I'd like to be the
> first to welcome them.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:58:08 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Slashdot.

Monday, May 06, 2002, 5:57:42 PM, Eric Dierker wrote:

> We really have to do some thinking here.

> Do you want new people or not.  You cannot greet them with a closed club
> attitude and act like they do not belong here if they have not been here
> and really do any kind of outreach.  You cannot only welcome seasoned
> engineers and expect this bottoms up experiment to work.

The issue, Eric and everyone else, is that they are coming in for the
sole purpose of trying to influence the outcome of a single issue, not
to be a part of the overall process.

If the outreach was to have a voice within the ICANN/DNSO process,
rather than recruiting people for the specific purpose of supporting
Jamie's attempt at trying to embarrass ICANN at the expense of the
legitimacy of the DNSO GA, then I would have no problem with it at
all.

But in this case, it is ONLY resulting in getting voices to back up
his little agenda.

And in so doing, he has proven ICANN right about the GA, and further
justified their completely ignoring us.

Bravo, Jamie, Bravo.  You have played right into their hands.

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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:55:16 -0700
From: Eric Dierker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Slashdot.

Well sh--,

You have a good point here William.

I think in general we have a problem houston.

This is what I have been putting off outreach about.

You have any solutions?

E

William X Walsh wrote:

> Monday, May 06, 2002, 5:57:42 PM, Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > We really have to do some thinking here.
>
> > Do you want new people or not.  You cannot greet them with a closed club
> > attitude and act like they do not belong here if they have not been here
> > and really do any kind of outreach.  You cannot only welcome seasoned
> > engineers and expect this bottoms up experiment to work.
>
> The issue, Eric and everyone else, is that they are coming in for the
> sole purpose of trying to influence the outcome of a single issue, not
> to be a part of the overall process.
>
> If the outreach was to have a voice within the ICANN/DNSO process,
> rather than recruiting people for the specific purpose of supporting
> Jamie's attempt at trying to embarrass ICANN at the expense of the
> legitimacy of the DNSO GA, then I would have no problem with it at
> all.
>
> But in this case, it is ONLY resulting in getting voices to back up
> his little agenda.
>
> And in so doing, he has proven ICANN right about the GA, and further
> justified their completely ignoring us.
>
> Bravo, Jamie, Bravo.  You have played right into their hands.
>
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> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
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> CARP will kill Webcasting!
> http://www.saveinternetradio.org/

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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:51:41 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] POLL RESULTS: Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of ICANN contract

Let the record show that sufficient interest has been demonstrated by
members of the DNSO General Assembly for the Issue:" Motion asking for GA
poll on rebid of ICANN contract" to go forward.

POLL# 1: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00643.html Open from
Friday 3rd May 2002 to Sunday 5th May 2002. Members were invited to indicate
their interest by responding to the following text posted to the [email-masked]
mailing list:-

PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PREFERENCE  BELOW.

Mr. James Love, a member in good standing  of the DNSO's General Assembly,
has made a call for action, specifically stating:

 "I move that the GA poll its members, to record its views on whether or not
the US Department of Commerce should have an open competition for the
services now provided by ICANN. The rationale for asking for a rebid is that
ICANN has dramatically changed the initial terms of reference for ICANN, and
is proposing even further changes, which have met extensive opposition in
the Internet community. The rebid would allow the NTIA to consider
alternatives to the current ICANN plan for managing key Internet resources.

The vote should be taken within 10 days."

Seconds: John Palmer, Danny Younger.

Members who have indicated their agreement with taking a Vote:-

James Love (Proponent)
John Palmer (Second)
Danny Younger (Second)
Jeanette Hoffman
Joanna Lane
Sotiris Sotiropoulos
Karl Auerbach
David Farrar
Jefsey Morfin
Daniel Pare
Y. J. Park
Eric Dierker
Jonathan Weinberg
Andy Duff

Members who have indicated their disagreement with taking a Vote:-

Marilyn Cade
William X Walsh
Asaad Alnajjar
Joop Teernstra

POLL #2: From Sunday 5th May 2002.
Additional interest has been shown by Members in response to the following
text posted to the [email-masked] mailing list:-

In spite of the fact that nine Members have already seconded that request
by James Love, it seems there is a need to show our Chair what the GA
wants. So, please kindly reply to the GA list:
[ ] I wish the GA to debate and to take a vote on the rebid of the
delegation of the IANA functions
[ ] I do not with the GA to take a vote on the rebid of the delegation of
the IANA functions
thank you.

The following members responded with an X in the top box, indicating their
wish for the GA to take a vote on the rebid of the delegation of the IANA
functions:-

1. Jefsey Morfin http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00741.html
2. Darrell Green http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00744.html
3. Chris January http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00749.html
4. Eric Dierker http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00743.html

No members responded to this Poll to indicate the alternative option.

Comments pertaining to the discussion on this Issue are listed below:-

GENERAL DISCUSSION
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00615.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00616.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00619.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00620.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00625.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00626.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00627.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00630.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00631.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00632.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00633.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00634.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00635.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00636.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00637.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00638.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00639.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00640.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00641.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00645.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00646.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00648.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00650.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00651.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00652.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00655.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00657.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00659.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00660.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00661.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00662.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00663.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00664.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00665.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00666.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00668.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00669.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00671.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00672.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00673.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00674.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00678.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00679.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00680.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00681.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00682.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00683.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00685.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00687.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00692.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00693.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00694.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00696.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00697.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00698.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00699.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00701.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00702.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00703.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00704.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00705.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00710.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00713.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00718.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00719.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00720.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00721.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00722.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00723.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00728.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00729.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00733.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00734.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00735.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00736.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00738.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00739.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00748.html

Total: 78 comments

DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO TIME LINE
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00644.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00647.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00649.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00654.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00656.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00688.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00690.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00700.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00712.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00714.html

Total: 10 comments
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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:55:25 -0400
From: Dan Steinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Slashdot.

actually this is a no-brainer.
its a recognized part of the political process.  people do it for
elections and party conventions all the time.  We should be
surprised....if it *didnt* happen, not that it happens.

To me it is analagous to the whole speculation issue. People speculate
in land, air, fish, grain futures, stock market derivatives, sports
outcomes, etc.  Yet....some are suprised and even shocked...that people
have the nerve to speculate about domain names???????

Just because it's the net....doesnt make it always different.

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Synthesis: Law & Technology
(613) 794-5356

Eric Dierker wrote:
> 
> Well sh--,
> 
> You have a good point here William.
> 
> I think in general we have a problem houston.
> 
> This is what I have been putting off outreach about.
> 
> You have any solutions?
> 
> E
> 
> William X Walsh wrote:
> 
> > Monday, May 06, 2002, 5:57:42 PM, Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > We really have to do some thinking here.
> >
> > > Do you want new people or not.  You cannot greet them with a closed club
> > > attitude and act like they do not belong here if they have not been here
> > > and really do any kind of outreach.  You cannot only welcome seasoned
> > > engineers and expect this bottoms up experiment to work.
> >
> > The issue, Eric and everyone else, is that they are coming in for the
> > sole purpose of trying to influence the outcome of a single issue, not
> > to be a part of the overall process.
> >
> > If the outreach was to have a voice within the ICANN/DNSO process,
> > rather than recruiting people for the specific purpose of supporting
> > Jamie's attempt at trying to embarrass ICANN at the expense of the
> > legitimacy of the DNSO GA, then I would have no problem with it at
> > all.
> >
> > But in this case, it is ONLY resulting in getting voices to back up
> > his little agenda.
> >
> > And in so doing, he has proven ICANN right about the GA, and further
> > justified their completely ignoring us.
> >
> > Bravo, Jamie, Bravo.  You have played right into their hands.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> > --
> > Save Internet Radio!
> > CARP will kill Webcasting!
> > http://www.saveinternetradio.org/
> 
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:59:41 -0700
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] POLL RESULTS: Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of ICANN contract

Monday, May 06, 2002, 7:51:41 PM, Joanna Lane wrote:

> Let the record show that sufficient interest has been demonstrated by
> members of the DNSO General Assembly for the Issue:" Motion asking for GA
> poll on rebid of ICANN contract" to go forward.

I don't believe that is your call, Joanna.

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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 23:08:02 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] POLL RESULTS: Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of ICANN contract

> I don't believe that is your call, Joanna.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>

 Will the real GA Secretariat please stand up...oh, I forgot...there isn't
one.
Regards,
Joanna

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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:14:06 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] NEXT STEPS: 7 days left to a GA Vote

The Chair of the General Assembly has stated that due to time constraints on
the DNSO Secretariat, "the most reasonable window for beginning a vote is
the week between May 13 and May 17." and that "For a proposed resolution to
be included with the ballot, the following
three conditions must be fulfilled:  (1) It should be a statement on
ICANN structure, mission, and a possible re-bid.  (2) There should be
ten supporters.  (3) The resolution's final text, and the list of
supporters, should be posted to this list no later than May 10.
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00712.html

One or more Resolutions may result from recent discussions under the Subject
thread:-
"Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of ICANN contract" - Jamie Love,
Proponent

Under the Best Practices (BP) procedure, this Issue is ripe for treatment,
as evidenced by the results of the recent Polls, hence the "floor" is now
open for Proposals.

Jamie can re-enter his "Motion" as a Proposal (or he can argue that has
already been done) and through ongoing Debate, that Proposal could end up
being amended, or alternative Proposals could be advanced. If more than one
Proposal is finalized (and hence Accepted), and it is clear that neither one
negates the other, both can be Recognized as Motions to be Debated.
(Conflicting Proposals would have to be run through a Poll.) Once Debated,
the final text of the Motion(s) must then be supported by 10 or more
supporters,(as per the Chair), then each would proceed on separate Ballots
for a Vote of the Assembly on May 13.
A person favoring A over B would vote on both, with a "Yes" for A and a "No"
for B -- there would be no vote splitting.
- -- see esp. http://www.cerebalaw.com/BPIVial.htm.

There are 7 days left in which to get this, and any other Resolutions
through this process.
Regards,
Joanna

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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:23:25 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] POLL RESULTS: Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of ICANN contract

Jeff,
Some members made comments that seemed to favor one position or another, but
they did not make a clear statement such as "I support a Vote", hence their
names do not appear on the list. If you made a clear statement and I missed
it, I apologize, but please cite the URL, together with any others you think
have been overlooked. Thanks.

Regards,
Joanna

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:45 AM
> To: Joanna Lane
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [ga] POLL RESULTS: Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of
> ICANN contract
>
>
> Joanna and all assembly members,
>
>   You left my name and several others off your list of those in favor
> from you list below and one of those not in favor of a vote.
> the count is currently 16 in favor and 5 against...
>
> Joanna Lane wrote:
>
> > Let the record show that sufficient interest has been demonstrated by
> > members of the DNSO General Assembly for the Issue:" Motion
> asking for GA
> > poll on rebid of ICANN contract" to go forward.
> >
> > POLL# 1: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00643.html Open from
> > Friday 3rd May 2002 to Sunday 5th May 2002. Members were
> invited to indicate
> > their interest by responding to the following text posted to
> the [email-masked]
> > mailing list:-
> >
> > PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PREFERENCE  BELOW.
> >
> > Mr. James Love, a member in good standing  of the DNSO's
> General Assembly,
> > has made a call for action, specifically stating:
> >
> >  "I move that the GA poll its members, to record its views on
> whether or not
> > the US Department of Commerce should have an open competition for the
> > services now provided by ICANN. The rationale for asking for a
> rebid is that
> > ICANN has dramatically changed the initial terms of reference
> for ICANN, and
> > is proposing even further changes, which have met extensive
> opposition in
> > the Internet community. The rebid would allow the NTIA to consider
> > alternatives to the current ICANN plan for managing key
> Internet resources.
> >
> > The vote should be taken within 10 days."
> >
> > Seconds: John Palmer, Danny Younger.
> >
> > Members who have indicated their agreement with taking a Vote:-
> >
> > James Love (Proponent)
> > John Palmer (Second)
> > Danny Younger (Second)
> > Jeanette Hoffman
> > Joanna Lane
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > Karl Auerbach
> > David Farrar
> > Jefsey Morfin
> > Daniel Pare
> > Y. J. Park
> > Eric Dierker
> > Jonathan Weinberg
> > Andy Duff
> >
> > Members who have indicated their disagreement with taking a Vote:-
> >
> > Marilyn Cade
> > William X Walsh
> > Asaad Alnajjar
> > Joop Teernstra
> >
> > POLL #2: From Sunday 5th May 2002.
> > Additional interest has been shown by Members in response to
> the following
> > text posted to the [email-masked] mailing list:-
> >
> > In spite of the fact that nine Members have already seconded
> that request
> > by James Love, it seems there is a need to show our Chair what the GA
> > wants. So, please kindly reply to the GA list:
> > [ ] I wish the GA to debate and to take a vote on the rebid of the
> > delegation of the IANA functions
> > [ ] I do not with the GA to take a vote on the rebid of the
> delegation of
> > the IANA functions
> > thank you.
> >
> > The following members responded with an X in the top box,
> indicating their
> > wish for the GA to take a vote on the rebid of the delegation
> of the IANA
> > functions:-
> >
> > 1. Jefsey Morfin http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00741.html
> > 2. Darrell Green http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00744.html
> > 3. Chris January http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00749.html
> > 4. Eric Dierker http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00743.html
> >
> > No members responded to this Poll to indicate the alternative option.
> >
> > Comments pertaining to the discussion on this Issue are listed below:-
> >
> > GENERAL DISCUSSION
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00615.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00616.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00619.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00620.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00625.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00626.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00627.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00630.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00631.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00632.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00633.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00634.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00635.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00636.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00637.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00638.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00639.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00640.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00641.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00645.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00646.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00648.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00650.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00651.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00652.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00655.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00657.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00659.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00660.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00661.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00662.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00663.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00664.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00665.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00666.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00668.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00669.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00671.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00672.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00673.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00674.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00678.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00679.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00680.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00681.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00682.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00683.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00685.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00687.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00692.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00693.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00694.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00696.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00697.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00698.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00699.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00701.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00702.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00703.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00704.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00705.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00710.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00713.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00718.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00719.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00720.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00721.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00722.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00723.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00728.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00729.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00733.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00734.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00735.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00736.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00738.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00739.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00748.html
> >
> > Total: 78 comments
> >
> > DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO TIME LINE
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00644.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00647.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00649.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00654.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00656.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00688.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00690.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00700.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00712.html
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg00714.html
> >
> > Total: 10 comments
> > _____________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:48:14 -0400
From: Joanna Lane <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Motion asking for GA poll on rebid of ICANN contract

FYI
http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=709&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Which contract? There are several listed on ICANN's web site.

One of these is the MoU with NTIA (renew date around September 30 of this
year, although there may be a clause that permits an extension.)

Another is the purchase order from NIST for "IANA" related services. This
would have expired last March but was extended through September 30 of this
year.

And there is the CRADA.

A bit of precision is needed when referring to these. And since the US
Government is a bit thick headed about terminology. These things should be
referred to by whatever word is appropriate and not the generic word
"contract".

And "rebid" may not be the right concept. One could ask the question in the
form of "Is ICANN operating well enough to obtain a continuation, whether in
the form of a re-award or extension?" That formulation implies a preference
for continuity.

Or the question could be asked "Should other entities be given equal
opportunity and equal consideration by the US government when the time comes
to determine who should assume these duties after September 30, 2002?" That
formulation of the question is perhaps more fair, particularly given the
uncertainty of what will be the result of ICANN's "evolution".

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