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GA-DIGEST           Monday, August 14 2000           Volume 01 : Number 116

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:13:42 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

Roberto and all remaining assembly members,

  As many still remember back in Feb. the DNSO is under a cloud of
questionable legitimacy when it comes to elections....

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Folks,
>
> A few days ago a call for nominations was issued by the Listadmin (see
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc05/msg00223.html) with no reaction
> so far on this list.
>
> There is currently only one nomination (see http://www.dnso.org/
> elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nominees.html for the updated list) presented.
>
> Regards
> Roberto
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:27:21 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

Roberto and all remaining Assembly members,

  Sure things can change if you want to make changes.  The first
change that would really make a difference Roberto, would be for
you and Harald to recant and admit that you have acted illegitimately
and were illegitimately elected to your current illegitimate positions
as were the List rules...

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Hi, William.
>
> >
> >Disenchantment?
> >
>
> Definitively.
>
> So what? Am I the only stubborn around that still thinks that things can
>  be changed?
>
> Regards
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:50:13 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

Roeland and all remaining assembly members,

  Indeed you are correct Roeland.  A VERY stinky brain-fart!

Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:

> Don't forget that it was IANA's idea that the BoD intentionally
> be ignorant. So as not to bring in old baggage. I think that was
> one of IANA's stinkiest brain-farts.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of
> Andy
> > Gardner
> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:01 AM
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Re[3]: [ga] Elections
> >
> >
> > >IMHO, there's a "real" concern, i.e. that the oucome of the
> election
> > >will bring to the Board a group of freaks that know nothing of
> the
> > >Internet, with the consequence of putting the Internet at
> risk.
> > >But indeed there's some troth in what you say as well.
> >
> > You've just described a large portion of the current board
> perfectly.
> >
> > And the ICANN staff.
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:57:19 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

Joop,

>What is happening with the WG and the special NC task force that was to
 deal
>with the admittance of a new constituency for Individual DN holders in 
the DNSO?

The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.

>
>I thought I heard Ken Stubs say in Yokohama that this Task Force could 
be
>formed by July 25. Or is this now on the Agenda of the NC as : 
>H. DNSO Review committee "kickstart"

The July 25 deadline was for Constituencies to appoint people.
This was done.

Indeed we are running late, but this is due mostly to the fact that a 
lot of people went on vacation between Yokohama and now, and of course 
not everybody at the same time.
Ken is trying his best to make sure that now, in Mid August, things will
 progress.
As I told you in the opening line, this is what is already happening.

>
>Should this GA not allow its on-line members to vote on the resolution 
that
>the members present in Yokohama voted so overwhelmingly for? Just to 
remind
>the NC at this critical moment?

For what purpose?
The motion has been voted and obtained consensus in Yokohama, was 
presented to the NC on the same day, who received it and took immediate 
action.

>Roberto, here's your opportunity to shine. 
>
>(BTW, two out of the three NO voters were Mr Crispin and Mr Crocker)
>
>Now back in my Asia-Pacific region where I am resident, but where I 
cannot
>gather support for a nomination under the current rules. 

Why? I don't understand this.

Regards
Roberto
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:42:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

That's amazing.  What kind of notice got sent to ICANN mailing list
members?  Am I no longer on the relevant list? 

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:38:15 -0700
From: Kent Crispin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 01:57:19PM +0200, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.

What initial document?

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:39:51 -0700
From: Kristy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

At 07:42 AM 8/14/2000 , Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
>
>That's amazing.  What kind of notice got sent to ICANN mailing list
>members?  Am I no longer on the relevant list? 
>
>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>
>> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
>> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
>

Here is the note I received from icann:

Hi!  This email is an update on ICANN's At Large membership and election
program, and is being sent to all activated members.

   o Membership Drive

ICANN's membership drive was an overwhelming success.  From February
25 to July 31, over 158,000 Internet users from all corners of the world
submitted applications.  For details on the results, see
<<http://www.icann.org/announcements/icann-pr31jul00.htm>http://www.icann.o
rg/announcements/icann-pr31jul00.htm>.

   o Nominations Process

This year, ICANN's At Large Membership will select 5 members of the
ICANN Board of Directors in a worldwide online vote, currently scheduled
for October 1-10.  One Director will be chosen from each of five
geographic regions: Africa, Asia/Australia/Pacific, Europe, Latin
America/Caribbean, and North America.

The election process is now in the nominations phase.  There are two
paths to appear as a nominee on the final ballot:  nomination by the
Nominating Committee, and member-nomination.

  1. On August 1, the Nominating Committee announced a set of 18
nominees.  For details, see the announcement 
<<http://www.icann.org/nomcom/#report>http://www.icann.org/nomcom/#report> and
the list of nominees 
<<http://www.icann.org/nomcom/nominations.htm>http://www.icann.org/nomcom/n
ominations.htm>.

  2. During the month of August, there will be a member-nomination
period, in which an individual can win a place on the ballot by 
attracting the support of 2% of the activated members in his/her 
region, up to a total limit of 7 nominees per region.

For details on member-nomination, including the rules and instructions
for interested candidates, see
<<http://members.icann.org/nom.html>http://members.icann.org/nom.html>.
Candidates for member-nomination must contact ICANN by August 14.

From August 15-31, all activated At Large members will be able to
"endorse" a candidate for member-nomination in their region.  In 
the meantime, you can review the current list of candidates by 
selecting your region at
<<http://members.icann.org/nom.html>http://members.icann.org/nom.html>.

   o Keep your member number, password, and PIN number handy

Please keep your membership number, your password (sent via email), and
your PIN number (sent via postal mail) handy, because you will need to
use them to endorse a candidate for member-nomination, and to vote in
October.

If you have received this message in error and did not apply for the
ICANN At Large Membership, please notify us by sending an email with 
"ERROR" in the subject line.

ICANN At Large

Kristy [612.823.2418]

For every ten people who are clipping at the branches of evil, you're lucky
to find one who's hacking at the roots.

- ---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) American philosopher

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:39:27 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

Kent,

Sorry, I should have been more explicit.

The task force, established as per decision of the NC in Yokohama, is 
starting working.
To get the ball rolling, one member started drafting an outline of the 
work to do.
All other members are commenting on it, and the work continues.
A deadline was set (sorry, I got it wrong, in reality it is tomorrow).

Regards
Roberto

>On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 01:57:19PM +0200, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>
>> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
>> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
>
>What initial document?
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:41:53 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

Michael,

Sorry for the confusion.
As I expalined in a previous post, the document is the initial document 
that is circulating in the Task Force to define the scope of work.

You did not miss anything.

Regards
Roberto

>
>That's amazing.  What kind of notice got sent to ICANN mailing list
>members?  Am I no longer on the relevant list? 
>
>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>
>> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
>> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:07:10 -0400
From: Jonathan Weinberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

	My understanding:

	The NC decided a review of the DNSO should be undertaken using *two*
bodies: a "Task Force" and a WG.  The Task Force was formed by invitation
only,  with members nominated by each of the constituencies.  To my
knowledge, the names of the Task Force members have not been made public.
(Roberto, can you tell us who they are?)  The Task Force is putting
together a workplan for the rest of the review process; its draft document
has also not been made public.  Once the workplan is completed and approved
by the NC, the NC will issue a call for rank-and-file members to enlist in
the working group.

Roberto, is this correct?

Jon

Jonathan Weinberg
[email-masked]

At 08:41 PM 8/14/00 +0200, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>Michael,
>
>Sorry for the confusion.
>As I expalined in a previous post, the document is the initial document 
>that is circulating in the Task Force to define the scope of work.
>
>You did not miss anything.
>
>Regards
>Roberto
>
>
>>
>>That's amazing.  What kind of notice got sent to ICANN mailing list
>>members?  Am I no longer on the relevant list? 
>>
>>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>>
>>> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
>>> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
>>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:11:59 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Mikael Pawlo <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

Still no PINs for several people in Sweden. Actually I haven't heard of
any Swede receiving his PIN. The election is due and this is really
starting to annoy me. If we don't receive PINs - is there another way for
us to cast our vote?

Regards

Mikael

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

Thanks for the clarification.  Not that anything would surprise me any
more....

"open standards, openly arrived at" anyone?

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Michael,
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.
> As I expalined in a previous post, the document is the initial document
> that is circulating in the Task Force to define the scope of work.
> 
> You did not miss anything.
> 
> Regards
> Roberto
> 
> 
> >
> >That's amazing.  What kind of notice got sent to ICANN mailing list
> >members?  Am I no longer on the relevant list?
> >
> >On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> >
> >> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
> >> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> 

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:48:19 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

Michael and all remaining assembly members,

  Yes it is amazing in one sense I suppose, but in another, with respect
to
the illegitimate leadership of the DNSO and ICANN it shouldn't
be amazing at all, just SOP...

Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:

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> members?  Am I no longer on the relevant list?
>
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>
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> > The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:31:17 -0700
From: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

Well, I live in Seattle, WA USA, and was one of the first to sign
up, and I've not gotten my PIN yet either.

I really want to give my member support to Karl Auerbach, but
I can't until I get my PIN.

Christopher

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From: "Mikael Pawlo" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
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Subject: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

> 
> Still no PINs for several people in Sweden. Actually I haven't heard of
> any Swede receiving his PIN. The election is due and this is really
> starting to annoy me. If we don't receive PINs - is there another way for
> us to cast our vote?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mikael
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:55:40 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Elections

Roberto and all,

 URL reference please...

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Kent,
>
> Sorry, I should have been more explicit.
>
> The task force, established as per decision of the NC in Yokohama, is
> starting working.
> To get the ball rolling, one member started drafting an outline of the
> work to do.
> All other members are commenting on it, and the work continues.
> A deadline was set (sorry, I got it wrong, in reality it is tomorrow).
>
> Regards
> Roberto
>
> >On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 01:57:19PM +0200, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> >
> >> The NC Task Force is at work, I am part of it.
> >> The deadline for comments on the initial document is today.
> >
> >What initial document?
> >
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:50:05 -0500
From: "Kevin M. Kelly" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

Not that this is encouraging, I signed up on 26-July and received my PIN on
Saturday (12-August).

They probably "rushed" mine because the State of Iowa carries so much political
clout or maybe I'm the only Iowan who requested a PIN!

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:14:32 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Mikael Pawlo <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

(to: Christopher Ambler, cc: to Esther Dyson and the GA, please find Mr
Amblers original message attached below)

Dear Mr Ambler,
I wish I could use that as a comforting fact, but it just adds to the
confusion regarding the PIN situation. I heard that the PINs would be sent
in batches - fair enough - but now the election is due and I still do not
know how to vote without my PIN. I sure can understand that ICANN suffer
from intial administrative problems, but it's harder to accept that a
legally binding election will take place when several voters have no means
of participation.

The PIN situation should be solved or the election postponed. Any other
alternative is unjust and unfair. I might excercise my right not to vote
for any of the candidates, but for the time beeing I'm even denied to  
make such a choice.

Lucky ICANN to have Esther Dyson as chairman - who I know is just,
otherwise I might have suggested foul play. Now that is hardly an option,
but the PIN situation urgently needs to be addressed.

Best Regards,

Mikael

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Christopher Ambler wrote:

> Well, I live in Seattle, WA USA, and was one of the first to sign
> up, and I've not gotten my PIN yet either.
> 
> I really want to give my member support to Karl Auerbach, but
> I can't until I get my PIN.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mikael Pawlo" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:11 PM
> Subject: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation
> 
> 
> > 
> > Still no PINs for several people in Sweden. Actually I haven't heard of
> > any Swede receiving his PIN. The election is due and this is really
> > starting to annoy me. If we don't receive PINs - is there another way for
> > us to cast our vote?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Mikael
> > 
> > 
> > _________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:17:15 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

Mikael and all remaining assembly members,

  You might want to let the ICANN Board know about this as
well...

Mikael Pawlo wrote:

> Still no PINs for several people in Sweden. Actually I haven't heard of
> any Swede receiving his PIN. The election is due and this is really
> starting to annoy me. If we don't receive PINs - is there another way for
> us to cast our vote?
>
> Regards
>
> Mikael
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:20:34 -0700
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation

Chris and all remaining assembly members,

  Your support of Karl is well known and is a possibly reason you
amongst a number of us that have not recieved their PIN's yet...

Christopher Ambler wrote:

> Well, I live in Seattle, WA USA, and was one of the first to sign
> up, and I've not gotten my PIN yet either.
>
> I really want to give my member support to Karl Auerbach, but
> I can't until I get my PIN.
>
> Christopher
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mikael Pawlo" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:11 PM
> Subject: [ga] The everlasting PIN situation
>
> >
> > Still no PINs for several people in Sweden. Actually I haven't heard of
> > any Swede receiving his PIN. The election is due and this is really
> > starting to annoy me. If we don't receive PINs - is there another way for
> > us to cast our vote?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mikael
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   ICQ:35638414                                mailto:[email-masked]
> >   +46-709-179012                              http://www.pawlo.com/
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