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GA-DIGEST            Sunday, August 6 2000            Volume 01 : Number 112

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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 02:47:59 +0200 (MEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] instructions (fwd)

[REMINDER TO [email-masked]]

This is the second reminder I am sending you about my request for the
instructions for submitting myself as a candidate in the @large
elections (see earlier messages below). Time is rather short. So the
delay does not come handy.

Am I the only one you are not sending this information to?

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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 04:36:16 +0200 (MEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: instructions (fwd)

I have so far not received an answer to my request below.

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:15:22 +0200 (MEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
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Please, send me the instructions for submitting my name as a candidate for
member-nomination.

Thank you!

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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:02:51 -0700
From: "Bret A. Fausett" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] instructions (fwd)

Marc Schneiders wrote:
> This is the second reminder I am sending you about my request for the
> instructions for submitting myself as a candidate in the @large
> elections (see earlier messages below). Time is rather short. So the
> delay does not come handy.

http://members.icann.org/nom.html

        -- Bret

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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 20:11:57 -0500
From: Weisberg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] instructions 

> > instructions for submitting myself as a candidate in the @large
> > elections

According to Andrew McLuaghlin,

> the person who wants to be nominated should send an email to <[email-masked]>.

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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:16:52 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[3]: [ga] Elections

Hello Harald,

Friday, August 04, 2000, 8:07:34 AM, you wrote:

> At 14:27 03/08/2000 -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>>ICANN has made it clear, it won't change/reform.
>>
>>So the only path is to dismantle it.  And you can't do that from the
>>inside.

> quite the opposite, the inside (BoD) is the easiest place to do it from.
> Provided you can get there.

And unless you are buddy buddy with Mike Roberts or Esther or a
powerful member of the IP community, there is no chance of that.

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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 04:17:53 +0200 (MEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] instructions (fwd)

On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Bret A. Fausett wrote:

> Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > This is the second reminder I am sending you about my request for the
> > instructions for submitting myself as a candidate in the @large
> > elections (see earlier messages below). Time is rather short. So the
> > delay does not come handy.
> 
> http://members.icann.org/nom.html
> 
>         -- Bret

Yes, and that says "click here" and the next page says to send mail to
[email-masked] for instructions. Which I did. No reply. Reminder.
No reply. This is now three days ago. We only have until August 14. So I
was curious if others had the same experience :-)

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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 04:21:46 +0200 (MEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] instructions 

On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Weisberg wrote:

> > > instructions for submitting myself as a candidate in the @large
> > > elections
> 
> According to Andrew McLuaghlin,
> 
> > the person who wants to be nominated should send an email to <[email-masked]>.
> 

That is exactly what I did. Three days ago. And a reminder after 36
hours. We only have until 14 August. No replies from ICANN.

So I sent another reminder and Cc-ed it to this list tonight. Just in case
others are having the same experience.

What conclusion may I draw when I do not receive a reply soon? 

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Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 08:21:33 +0000
From: jillkeogh <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Candidate endorsement

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Hello,

My name is Jill Keogh and I know you do not know me, nor I you.   I am
an enthusiastic new comer and am asking for your support.  Will you
please consider endorsing my nomination?  You are probably asking
yourself:  Why would I endorse you?

If you are looking for a new perspective by someone who is not
entrenched in the infrastructure of the internet and who can bring an
unbiased voice to the process, please consider me for your endorsement.
The best reasons you may endorse me include:

1.  You are interested in putting your recommendation in for a board
member who will keep you informed.  I will do this by keeping the ga in
regular email communications such as this one.

2.  You are one of many people who are not closely knit in the
organization and want someone like yourself represented.   You too may
not know many people in this organization.  I do not know anyone. This
gives me a very objective, outside perspective.

3.  You want someone who is approachable, concerned and interested in
your ideas and opinions and can communicate these ideas and opinions to
the board.

4.  I am a "regular guy/gal".  I have an insatiable desire to learn
about technology and the internet and contribute to the world in a
positive way.  "The more I know, the more I need to know".  I view the
puzzle from an aerial view whenever possible and have not confined
myself to one specialty.  I have a small technology business I founded
and believe I am like many of you.   I am a creative, problem solving
leader who is not afraid to express contrary opinion nor afraid to
support my opinion with unique approaches.  I have 17 years of business
management experience and have successfully worked with CEOs, Presidents
of companies, IT staff, entry level sales people, administrators,
through sole proprietors, entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, and virtually
every type of organization. I worked as an executive for an
international, household name corporation and through this experience
visited countries all over the world and worked under the philosophies
and leadership of various cultures.  I have learned that everyone
contributes worthwhile ideas and ideas are not exclusive officers of an
organization. The key is to communicate the ideas effectively and I
consider that skill to be what separates me.

5. I need your support because without it, I will not be considered.

Thank you.  Endorsing me means endorsing the ideas I presented above.

It's easy and fast to endorse a candidate one of two ways:

1.  Please copy this template into a new email window, complete it and
send to [email-masked]

Template for endorsement:

             3a. Full name of the endorser:
             3b. E-mail address of the endorser:
             3c. Full name of the accepted nominee
                 you wish to endorse:  Jill Keogh
                 (specific statements of endorsements
                 may also be submitted and are encouraged)

2.  http://www.dnso.org/elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nomination-proc.html
is where this template may be found.

You may find my info @
http://www.dnso.org/elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nominees.html

I thank you for taking a moment out of your busy schedule to consider my
nomination.

Jill Keogh

"Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote:

> Roberto
> > So what? Am I the only stubborn around that still thinks that
> > things can be changed?
>
> No, but you may be one of the very few that thinks the change can
> come from DNSO.ORG. Right now, 158K folks think it can happen
> from the At-Large membership. IMHO, that ain't gonna happen
> either. Unless of course, they all gather round the BoD, at the
> next ICANN convention, with a bunch of short rope, a tall tree,
> and a skittish horse.
>
> This latest series of goal-post moves pretty much did it in for
> most folks.
>
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Hello,
<p>My name is Jill Keogh and I know you do not know me, nor I you.&nbsp;&nbsp;
I am an enthusiastic new comer and am asking for your support.&nbsp; Will
you please consider endorsing my nomination?&nbsp; You are probably asking
yourself:&nbsp; Why would I endorse you?
<p>If you are looking for a new perspective by someone who is not entrenched
in the infrastructure of the internet and who can bring an unbiased voice
to the process, please consider me for your endorsement.&nbsp; The best
reasons you may endorse me include:
<p>1.&nbsp; You are interested in putting your recommendation in for a
board member who will keep you informed.&nbsp; I will do this by keeping
the ga in regular email communications such as this one.
<p>2.&nbsp; You are one of many people who are not closely knit in the
organization and want someone like yourself represented.&nbsp;&nbsp; You
too may not know many people in this organization.&nbsp; I do not know
anyone. This gives me a very objective, outside perspective.
<p>3.&nbsp; You want someone who is approachable, concerned and interested
in your ideas and opinions and can communicate these ideas and opinions
to the board.
<p>4.&nbsp; I am a "regular guy/gal".&nbsp; I have an insatiable desire
to learn about technology and the internet and contribute to the world
in a positive way.&nbsp; "The more I know, the more I need to know".&nbsp;
I view the puzzle from an aerial view whenever possible and have not confined
myself to one specialty.&nbsp; I have a small technology business I founded
and believe I am like many of you.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am a creative, problem
solving leader who is not afraid to express contrary opinion nor afraid
to support my opinion with unique approaches.&nbsp; I have 17 years of
business management experience and have successfully worked with CEOs,
Presidents of companies, IT staff, entry level sales people, administrators,
through sole proprietors, entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, and virtually
every type of organization. I worked as an executive for an international,
household name corporation and through this experience visited countries
all over the world and worked under the philosophies and leadership of
various cultures.&nbsp; I have learned that everyone contributes worthwhile
ideas and ideas are not exclusive officers of an organization. The key
is to communicate the ideas effectively and I consider that skill to be
what separates me.&nbsp;
<p>5. I need your support because without it, I will not be considered.
<p>Thank you.&nbsp; Endorsing me means endorsing the ideas I presented
above.
<p>It's easy and fast to endorse a candidate one of two ways:
<p>1.&nbsp; Please copy this template into a new email window, complete
it and <b>send to [email-masked]</b>
<p><b>Template for endorsement:</b><b></b>
<p><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3a. Full name of the endorser:</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3b. E-mail address of the endorser:</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3c. Full name of the accepted nominee</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
you wish to endorse:&nbsp; Jill Keogh</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
(specific statements of endorsements</b>
<br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
may also be submitted and are encouraged)</b><b></b>
<p>2.&nbsp; <A HREF="http://www.dnso.org/elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nomination-proc.html">http://www.dnso.org/elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nomination-proc.html</A>
is where this template may be found.
<p>You may find my info @
<br><A HREF="http://www.dnso.org/elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nominees.html">http://www.dnso.org/elections/2000.DNSO-ICANN-nominees.html</A>
<p>I thank you for taking a moment out of your busy schedule to consider
my nomination.
<p>Jill Keogh
<p>"Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Roberto
<br>> So what? Am I the only stubborn around that still thinks that
<br>> things can be changed?
<p>No, but you may be one of the very few that thinks the change can
<br>come from DNSO.ORG. Right now, 158K folks think it can happen
<br>from the At-Large membership. IMHO, that ain't gonna happen
<br>either. Unless of course, they all gather round the BoD, at the
<br>next ICANN convention, with a bunch of short rope, a tall tree,
<br>and a skittish horse.
<p>This latest series of goal-post moves pretty much did it in for
<br>most folks.
<p>--
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:50:42 +0200 (MEST)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Returned mail: see transcript for details (fwd)

  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
  Send mail to [email-masked] for more info.

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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <[email-masked]>

It seems the mail to endorse a nominee for dnso-icann is bounced. See
below and attachment.

...

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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:46:23 +0200
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>
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Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

The original message was received at Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:46:21 +0200
from venster@localhost [127.0.0.1]

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... while talking to dnso.dnso.org.:
>>> RCPT To:<[email-masked]>
<<< 550 <[email-masked]>... User unknown
550 5.1.1 <[email-masked]>... User unknown

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Final-Recipient: RFC822; [email-masked]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; dnso.dnso.org
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <[email-masked]>... User unknown
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:46:21 +0200 (MEST)
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are encouraged)

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