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GA-DIGEST         Thursday, February 28 2002         Volume 01 : Number 1054

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:14:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

Joop,

There is no privacy policy on the site and the site makes available
names and locations publicly.

I request that a privacy policy be developed an placed on the site
and that registrants agree to the policy before signing up.

thanks,

- -rick

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Joop Teernstra wrote:

> The At Large Membership signup website has gone live today.
> www.icannatlarge.com
>
> --Joop
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:32:51 +1300
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  Input needed

At 17:48 27/02/02 -0500, [email-masked] wrote:
>Joop,
>
>Susan and David's proposal explores the creation of a cross-Supporting
>Organization (which in my view seems to be no more than a new label for a
>General Assembly removed from the DNSO).    Additionally, they seek
>"substantial" Board representation "to reflect the views of those who are
>contractually bound by or very likely directly impacted by ICANN’s 
>policies"
>(read this as registries, registrars and resellers).
>
>Commercial interests already have too much power within ICANN.  I cannot
>support proposals which would substantially enhance such interests even
>further at the expense of registrants and the broader user community.
>
>As a long-time participant in the ICANN process, what structural model would
>you endorse?

David and Susan's report makes many observations that I agree with.
In particular this one:
"Even if many governments were to agree to support Mr. Lynn's 
"restructured" ICANN, the resulting assertion of power would be based on 
force, not consent of the governed. And there would be a serious risk that 
many Internet participants would "route around" such claimed authority -- 
thereby breaking the edge-to-edge connectivity the preservation of which 
was a central reason for ICANN's creation. "

It analyzes the dangers of Mr Lynn's proposal quite well.
Interestingly it makes the point that those who have signed a contract with 
ICANN, may consider not to have any deal with the different animal ICANN 2 
and may successfully argue so in Court.
The ccTLD's will be less tempted than ever to deal with such a beast, 
unless coerced by their governments.
But the proposed solutions focus on the interests of the registries and 
registrars, especially the viability of the business model of new 
registries (understandable from David and Susan's point of view) and a 
misty "consensus" of the registrants. That part is not so realistic.

This part of David's proposal especially scares me:
"
if a report is not forthcoming, allowing the Board to itself draft (or 
outsource the drafting of) the report to be considered in determining 
whether or not a consensus has been achieved. (The substantive requirements 
for such a report would remain the same, but there is no to need hold the 
Board hostage to inaction by inept or hostile factions who may have control 
over the lower levels of the policy development processes.) "

In practice this will give Stuart (where the drafting will be outsourced) 
even more power than he is asking for.

What structural model I endorse? I have written about that as far back as 
'98 to the DoC. Many permutations are possible and politics is the art of 
the possible. The important thing for me is: no governance without 
representation and consent of the governed.

- --Joop

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 00:43:22 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

Rick and all assembly members,

  I tend to agree and suggest such to Pinder, Joop and Jefsey whom
have been partly responsible for kicking this effort off.  Seems that
the knee jerk desire outweighed reason and forethought yet again...

Rick H Wesson wrote:

> Joop,
>
> There is no privacy policy on the site and the site makes available
> names and locations publicly.
>
> I request that a privacy policy be developed an placed on the site
> and that registrants agree to the policy before signing up.
>
> thanks,
>
> -rick
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > The At Large Membership signup website has gone live today.
> > www.icannatlarge.com
> >
> > --Joop
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:06:35 +1300
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

On 22:14 27/02/02 -0800, Rick H Wesson said:

>Joop,
>
>There is no privacy policy on the site and the site makes available
>names and locations publicly.
>
>I request that a privacy policy be developed an placed on the site
>and that registrants agree to the policy before signing up.

The privacy policy is terse, but it is there.

"Your postal and e-mail address will remain confidential."

You make a good point that the publishing of name and city should be 
specifically agreed to.
I'll add that in the next iteration, with permission of my editorial panel.
Thanks.

- --Joop

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:27:43 +0900
From: Adam PEAKE <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

You know, we're talking about creating a participatory membership.
Nationally, regionally and globally structured (probably?) I can't see
any reason why anyone who wants to participate in a membership of this
type would object to revealing who they are and where they are (e.g.,
Adam Peake, Tokyo, Japan, seems acceptable, no?) No email listing, no
telephone or fax numbers, or physical address that someone could farm
the lists for mailing addresses. 

Thanks,

Adam

Joop Teernstra wrote:
> 
> On 22:14 27/02/02 -0800, Rick H Wesson said:
> 
> >Joop,
> >
> >There is no privacy policy on the site and the site makes available
> >names and locations publicly.
> >
> >I request that a privacy policy be developed an placed on the site
> >and that registrants agree to the policy before signing up.
> 
> The privacy policy is terse, but it is there.
> 
> "Your postal and e-mail address will remain confidential."
> 
> You make a good point that the publishing of name and city should be
> specifically agreed to.
> I'll add that in the next iteration, with permission of my editorial panel.
> Thanks.
> 
> --Joop
> 
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 03:12:53 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

Joop and all assembly members,

Joop Teernstra wrote:

> On 22:14 27/02/02 -0800, Rick H Wesson said:
>
> >Joop,
> >
> >There is no privacy policy on the site and the site makes available
> >names and locations publicly.
> >
> >I request that a privacy policy be developed an placed on the site
> >and that registrants agree to the policy before signing up.
>
> The privacy policy is terse, but it is there.
>
> "Your postal and e-mail address will remain confidential."
>
> You make a good point that the publishing of name and city should be
> specifically agreed to.
> I'll add that in the next iteration, with permission of my editorial panel.
> Thanks.

  What's this "My" stuff?  Yes we know that you own the domain
ICANNATLARGE.COM. And yes we know it is being hosted
by  your own company.  But if this is a REAL effort to
create and atlarge, don't you think it is proper that any editorial
or other listed information should be approved by the At-Large
members?  Or at least some elected interim executive staff?

  And why does such a suggestion need to wait for some
"Next Iteration", as you put it?  As one that has purported
the need for privacy in the past on the GA here, I would seem
that you should have know that this was an important issue
to begin with...  Not to mention as well that you were
advised on the Atlarge Forum in advance that privacy was
paramount.  So I have to say I a quite baffled here...

Lets not recreate the IDNO mistakes shall we...

>
>
> --Joop
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:12:48 +1300
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

On 09:22 28/02/02 +0100, Thomas Roessler said:
>On 2002-02-28 20:06:35 +1300, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
>>I'll add that in the next iteration, with permission of my editorial 
>>panel. Thanks.
>
>While we are on it, the public mailing list for that panel is under way, I 
>hope.
>
>Stay tuned.

Thanks , Thomas

It being public means of course that everybody is de-facto on the Panel.
That's about as inclusive as it can get.

- --Joop

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:40:43 +0100
From: Thomas Roessler <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] [fwd] Steering Group for icannatlarge.com. (from: [email-masked])

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:38:19 +0100
Subject: Steering Group for icannatlarge.com.
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For your information: A closed mailing list with public web archive 
has been set up for the "editorial panel" for icannatlarge.com 
mentioned earlier by Joop on various mailing lists.

The archives are updated every two hours, and are available at 
<http://www.fitug.de/icann-alsg/>.

Kind regards,
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:42:50 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:  Input Needed

Danny,
Sorry for the short cut in rushing to other things. Obviously a 
restructuring must include a constitutional aspect. My structural approach 
is to say: the ICANN is needed by

- - the network managers (inacurately named TLDs) and IP administraors: they 
should be the "ICANN owners" and get final control on the organization 
budget they should pay - for the received service.

- - the Internet Participants using the network manager and IP administrators 
services: these Internet Participants are the "Internet owners" and by TLD 
Registrants Communities the "TLD  or (vitural) Nework owners". To get the 
most diversified, representative, efficient and stable representation human 
societies have always used a direct and an indirect ballanced selection 
system (look at the Congress). I therefore say that the SOs must elect 9 
Directors from (open to all) Constituencies (dedicated @large interest 
groups) and the @large as a whole (the ICANN/GA) 9 directors.

Jefsey

On 00:42 28/02/02, [email-masked] said:
>Jefsey,
>
>While policies, plans, and tools (your ICP-5, Registrars Rescue, and online
>management method) are important to the equation, what is still lacking is a
>channel by which any given interest group can effectively communicate with
>the decision-makers on the Board.
>
>Simply declaring SOs as open to any organized "constituency" does little to
>ensure that minority views won't be summarily voted down by the entrenched
>interests that currently dominate the process.
>
>In my view, the constituency/council structure is at the root of the DNSO's
>difficulties.  Within the GA, everyone is accorded a voice, all have the
>opportunity to vote, and consensus manages to emerge.  Would you support
>eliminating the Names Council and restructuring the DNSO as a large Assembly
>on the basis of one-man/one-vote?
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:27:42 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] help please for icann-atlarge management

Peter has proposed to host the ICANN AT LARGE sites so has Eric. Thomas too 
but fitug.de seems to have a smaller organization than Peter and Eric.

I have the addresses:
- - icannatlarge.org blocked by a NetSol/Registrars problem
- - icann-atlarge.com I will reroute to icannatlarge.com
- - icann-atlarge.org
- - icann-atlarge.net

I temporarily host them and I hope this will be fixed today. I created the 
mail.ican-atlarge.org account.

I am not however able to go much beyond. I suspect that the size of the 
final icann-atlarge.org structure that I have proposed:
- - one central menu
- - links to Joop's .com site
- - links and support of cc.icann-atlarge.org local community @large sites
- - local forums
- - local chapter management tools
- - polling services
will eventually call on a large system as Peter proposed and may be Eric in 
part.

1. I do not want to manage such a project alone.

2. I suggest that due to the importance to the world, the site has a miror 
(from Peter's to Eric's or the reverse) so the system is not said being 
"hijacked" as some already say about the ".com" core.

3. I observe that the ALSC list is subject to ICANN system failures. This 
kind of failure may happen at any critical time. So I wish to revive the 
old http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icann-atlarge list as ONLY an 
icann-atlarge site management group. Should only register there the people 
interested in actuall machine and site management. I copy this list : if 
you are on it and you are not interested please unsubscribe.

4. I will use the SIAT ( http://internationalsecretariat.org has a support 
structure. I will display its banking account which should ONLY be used for 
financial support to the hosting cooperatively managed by the icann-atlarge 
list, not to any other action)

This is carried as a contribution for france@lagre and from my tiny 
world@wide foundation. I hope we can soon transfer the sites to a large and 
stable system (currently on my lab machine) and that a board of "trustees" 
may take over.

I find that Cecily makes a tremedous job in term of oragnization 
proposition. May be we could have a Charter and practical international 
rules under her debated proposition, including the .com site management 
council proposed by Joop and the open icann-atlarge cooperative management 
of the .org sites, with a French incorporation carried with Olivier Iteanu 
if he wants to take the lead (I strongly recommand the French or the 
Belgium association status as the most suitable for such an operation - 
light, tax exempt, string support by the Gov, quite no obligation).

Thank you for your comments and help.
Jefsey

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:13:06 -0500
From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] RE: Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest

Joanna, I signed up as an individual domain name holder and made an
individual pledge.  I signed up to be supportive, not to play a leadership
role in any way.  

As I understand it, the At Large has to show significant mass of people who
will sign up and help to provide some funding to support getting started.
I appreciate your question and the opportunity to clarify that.  

You are right that I am involved in a number of activities in ICANN;
however, I did want to clarify one thing about the IDN TF:  I participated
in a call which was open to others sponsored by the IDN TF, in order to
learn more about the IDN topic and issues.  

I hope this clarifies my intent. Regards, Marilyn

- -----Original Message-----
From: Joanna Lane [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:37 AM
To: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Cc: [email-masked]; Joop Teernstra; [email-masked]
Subject: Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest

(I am posting this to the GA because the ALSC forum list has been killed.)

Dear Marilyn,

I notice you have just signed up as an individual member and domain name
holder of the new At Large Members Organization at
http://www.icannatlarge.com. In what capacity may I ask?

As you know, the At Large Organization is being set up primarily to lobby
ICANN for representation of those who are currently not able to participate
in the process through membership of other groups, specifically individual
domain name registrants, users and the public in general.

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but you are a professional Internet and
Government lobbyist in fulltime employ with AT&T, a Telco. In that capacity
you are a member of the DNSO Business Constituency and represent that group
(some 33 Businesses) on the Names Council. You Chair two of the NC's Task
Forces, namely the Transfer Task Force and the Whois Task Force, and will be
speaking on behalf of both of those groups (representing the views of all 7
constituencies) at the forthcoming Names Council Meeting in Accra
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00210.html. Furthermore, you
have some unspecified involvement with the IDN Task Force
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-idn/Arc00/msg00036.html which still leaves
time for you to be an active member of the DNSO General Assembly. This
amounts to your representing every single member of each constituency of the
DNSO at one time or another in the current process.

Now, are we to understand that in addition to this, you now seek for your
voice to be heard in the formation of this new bottom-up organization? If
so, would this be on a level playing field with every other individual,
including the possibility of standing for election as an officer of the At
Large? Or are we to understand that you have joined simply to make a (no
doubt generous) pledge on behalf of AT & T, with no desire to expand your
role into areas such as seeking election as a representative of At Large
Members within the ICANN process?

Thank you for the clarification.

Regards,
Joanna

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:00:26 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] icannatlarge.com

Adam,
what we see deevlopping is two coordinated efforts:
- - top-down by Joop and a .com braintrust with $ funding
- - bottom-up by my modest proposition and call for help

.com will be referenced on .org as the core @large. Let say the ICANN 
oriented and dependent. So it is more related to the ICANN as a governance 
body, where the urgency is today.

.org is open for you take charge of the hk@large site. So it will take much 
longer and will also stay much longer as the international @large 
cooperative governance support not dependant from the ICANN. This will take 
much longer time.

Two different and complementary ways. One to tackle the ICANN threatning us 
to call on Govs, one to relate and cooperate with local Govs and community 
to control the ICANN. Since there will be local forums, there will be a 
need in most of the countries for local registration too to comply with 
local laws if they want free speach. So let address one issue at a time.
Jefsey

At 09:27 28/02/02, Adam PEAKE wrote:
>You know, we're talking about creating a participatory membership.
>Nationally, regionally and globally structured (probably?) I can't see
>any reason why anyone who wants to participate in a membership of this
>type would object to revealing who they are and where they are (e.g.,
>Adam Peake, Tokyo, Japan, seems acceptable, no?) No email listing, no
>telephone or fax numbers, or physical address that someone could farm
>the lists for mailing addresses.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Adam
>
>
>Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> > On 22:14 27/02/02 -0800, Rick H Wesson said:
> >
> > >Joop,
> > >
> > >There is no privacy policy on the site and the site makes available
> > >names and locations publicly.
> > >
> > >I request that a privacy policy be developed an placed on the site
> > >and that registrants agree to the policy before signing up.
> >
> > The privacy policy is terse, but it is there.
> >
> > "Your postal and e-mail address will remain confidential."
> >
> > You make a good point that the publishing of name and city should be
> > specifically agreed to.
> > I'll add that in the next iteration, with permission of my editorial panel.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --Joop
> >
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:03:16 -0500
From: "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest

joann & others...

i would hope that as an individual i would be able to participate in the
icann-at-large without any concern of being "intimidated" into not
participating .

correspondence of this sort is not constructive. if you have concerns
joanna, i personally feel  you should take them DIRECTLY to Marilyn instead
of trying to make a public 'thing" out of it.

this is not a good way to start out here.. many of us work for companies
which may already be participating in some way in one or another
constituancy or already be part of a specific "interest group" (i believe
that Karl Auerbach has some financial relationship with Cisco and no one
questions his right to participate)

suggest you "back it down a notch or two"  here

regards

ken stubbs

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From: "Joanna Lane" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Joop Teernstra" <[email-masked]>;
<[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: [ga] Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest

> (I am posting this to the GA because the ALSC forum list has been killed.)
>
> Dear Marilyn,
>
> I notice you have just signed up as an individual member and domain name
> holder of the new At Large Members Organization at
> http://www.icannatlarge.com. In what capacity may I ask?
>
> As you know, the At Large Organization is being set up primarily to lobby
> ICANN for representation of those who are currently not able to
participate
> in the process through membership of other groups, specifically individual
> domain name registrants, users and the public in general.
>
> Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but you are a professional Internet
and
> Government lobbyist in fulltime employ with AT&T, a Telco. In that
capacity
> you are a member of the DNSO Business Constituency and represent that
group
> (some 33 Businesses) on the Names Council. You Chair two of the NC's Task
> Forces, namely the Transfer Task Force and the Whois Task Force, and will
be
> speaking on behalf of both of those groups (representing the views of all
7
> constituencies) at the forthcoming Names Council Meeting in Accra
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00210.html. Furthermore,
you
> have some unspecified involvement with the IDN Task Force
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-idn/Arc00/msg00036.html which still
leaves
> time for you to be an active member of the DNSO General Assembly. This
> amounts to your representing every single member of each constituency of
the
> DNSO at one time or another in the current process.
>
> Now, are we to understand that in addition to this, you now seek for your
> voice to be heard in the formation of this new bottom-up organization? If
> so, would this be on a level playing field with every other individual,
> including the possibility of standing for election as an officer of the At
> Large? Or are we to understand that you have joined simply to make a (no
> doubt generous) pledge on behalf of AT & T, with no desire to expand your
> role into areas such as seeking election as a representative of At Large
> Members within the ICANN process?
>
> Thank you for the clarification.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:59:06 -0500
From: "James Love" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest

What is the policy with regard to people voting several times in the various
DNSO constituencies?  We have a lot of people in the NCC that could got get
a vote elsewhere, the probably "belong" in the individual one, and a lot of
people in the registry/registrar business, that don't "belong" in the NCC.

Jamie

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From: "Ken Stubbs" <[email-masked]>
To: "Joanna Lane" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Joop Teernstra" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest

> joann & others...
>
> i would hope that as an individual i would be able to participate in the
> icann-at-large without any concern of being "intimidated" into not
> participating .
>
> correspondence of this sort is not constructive. if you have concerns
> joanna, i personally feel  you should take them DIRECTLY to Marilyn
instead
> of trying to make a public 'thing" out of it.
>
> this is not a good way to start out here.. many of us work for companies
> which may already be participating in some way in one or another
> constituancy or already be part of a specific "interest group" (i believe
> that Karl Auerbach has some financial relationship with Cisco and no one
> questions his right to participate)
>
> suggest you "back it down a notch or two"  here
>
> regards
>
> ken stubbs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joanna Lane" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Joop Teernstra" <[email-masked]>;
> <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:37 AM
> Subject: [ga] Icannatlarge.com - conflict of interest
>
>
> > (I am posting this to the GA because the ALSC forum list has been
killed.)
> >
> > Dear Marilyn,
> >
> > I notice you have just signed up as an individual member and domain name
> > holder of the new At Large Members Organization at
> > http://www.icannatlarge.com. In what capacity may I ask?
> >
> > As you know, the At Large Organization is being set up primarily to
lobby
> > ICANN for representation of those who are currently not able to
> participate
> > in the process through membership of other groups, specifically
individual
> > domain name registrants, users and the public in general.
> >
> > Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but you are a professional Internet
> and
> > Government lobbyist in fulltime employ with AT&T, a Telco. In that
> capacity
> > you are a member of the DNSO Business Constituency and represent that
> group
> > (some 33 Businesses) on the Names Council. You Chair two of the NC's
Task
> > Forces, namely the Transfer Task Force and the Whois Task Force, and
will
> be
> > speaking on behalf of both of those groups (representing the views of
all
> 7
> > constituencies) at the forthcoming Names Council Meeting in Accra
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00210.html. Furthermore,
> you
> > have some unspecified involvement with the IDN Task Force
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-idn/Arc00/msg00036.html which still
> leaves
> > time for you to be an active member of the DNSO General Assembly. This
> > amounts to your representing every single member of each constituency of
> the
> > DNSO at one time or another in the current process.
> >
> > Now, are we to understand that in addition to this, you now seek for
your
> > voice to be heard in the formation of this new bottom-up organization?
If
> > so, would this be on a level playing field with every other individual,
> > including the possibility of standing for election as an officer of the
At
> > Large? Or are we to understand that you have joined simply to make a (no
> > doubt generous) pledge on behalf of AT & T, with no desire to expand
your
> > role into areas such as seeking election as a representative of At Large
> > Members within the ICANN process?
> >
> > Thank you for the clarification.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joanna
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:06:11 -0500
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Fw: Waiting list service

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