Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #1050
From: [email-masked] (GA-DIGEST)
To: [email-masked]

GA-DIGEST         Tuesday, February 26 2002         Volume 01 : Number 1050

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:48:22 +0800
From: suffian <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] (ga) Unsubscribe

- --------------D6BB67723B740FC67B5E47C0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fun while it lasted...
Philip Sheppard wrote:

> I am surprised at the comments of Mr Younger with respect to the
> on-going work of the Structure task force. ScopeThe TF agreed to first
> comment on at-large. We intend to move on to comment on a proposal for
> a possible cc SO once such a proposal is presented - as explained in
> the TF terms of reference. Content of current workThe current draft
> reflects input from all constituencies that have chosen to make input
> along with the GA. Indeed the GA rep to this TF has made a useful and
> constructive contributions to date and that input is reflected through
> out the report. Philip Sheppard

- --------------D6BB67723B740FC67B5E47C0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
&nbsp;
<br>Fun while it lasted...
<br>Philip Sheppard wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font size=-1>I am surprised at the
comments of Mr Younger with respect to the on-going work of the Structure
task force.</font>&nbsp;<b><font size=-1>Scope</font></b><font size=-1>The
TF agreed to first comment on at-large. We intend to move on to comment
on a proposal for a possible cc SO once such a proposal is presented -
as explained in the TF terms of reference.</font>&nbsp;<b><font size=-1>Content
of current work</font></b><font size=-1>The current draft reflects input
from all constituencies that have chosen to make input along with the GA.
Indeed the GA rep to this TF has made a useful and constructive contributions
to date and that input is reflected through out the report.</font>&nbsp;<font size=-1>Philip
Sheppard</font></blockquote>
</html>

- --------------D6BB67723B740FC67B5E47C0--

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:52:14 -0600
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

As of 1500 UTC, the Lion-MAIL Bridge is now operational

Details at www.adns.net

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:16:52 -0800
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 6:52:14 PM, John Palmer wrote:

> As of 1500 UTC, the Lion-MAIL Bridge is now operational

> Details at www.adns.net

I didn't realize that the DNSO GA list was a place for companies to
post promotional materials for email services.

- -- 
Best regards,
William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
- --

"There is no better way to exercise the imagination than the study of
the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
interprets the truth."
- -- Jean Giradoux

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:10:02 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] KING OF IRELAND POLICY - OR THE ICANN SUICIDE

Either Stuart really believes that Govs can provide advisory services and 
managament assistance instead of simply governing; and he is like that 
Irish King who called for the temporary assistance of the King of England 
to fight another Irish King....

Or Stuart realisticaly says "I am not able to survive that amateurish 
venture of the Clinton area" he calls for the IBM/ATT/SAIC/MS to step in 
and to clean the mess under Bush's DoC orders.

Both ways the result will be the same: instability. We therefore need now 
and urgently to stabilize the net in our own areas before the crisis kills 
crediblity.

When the guy in charge shouts "I am unable to manage because everyone 
disagree with me, I am broke, please call the army in: if my ennemies help 
me we will make it", usually the Stock Exchange notices it.

Stuart, you should have published that on Friday, not on Sunday night ...

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:38:47 -0600
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

Its not promotional material - its an announcement about a matter relevant
to this list.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William X Walsh" <[email-masked]>
To: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

> Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 6:52:14 PM, John Palmer wrote:
> 
> > As of 1500 UTC, the Lion-MAIL Bridge is now operational
> 
> > Details at www.adns.net
> 
> I didn't realize that the DNSO GA list was a place for companies to
> post promotional materials for email services.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> --
> 
> "There is no better way to exercise the imagination than the study of
> the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
> interprets the truth."
> -- Jean Giradoux
> 
> --
> This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
> Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
> 
> 

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:52:03 -0800
From: William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 7:38:47 PM, John Palmer wrote:

> Its not promotional material - its an announcement about a matter relevant
> to this list.

Not at all relevant.  It was nothing but an advertisement for
something that has no relevance here whatsoever.

- -- 
Best regards,
William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
- --

"There is no better way to exercise the imagination than the study of
the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
interprets the truth."
- -- Jean Giradoux

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:27:36 -0600
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

I disagree.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "William X Walsh" <[email-masked]>
To: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

> Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 7:38:47 PM, John Palmer wrote:
>
> > Its not promotional material - its an announcement about a matter
relevant
> > to this list.
>
> Not at all relevant.  It was nothing but an advertisement for
> something that has no relevance here whatsoever.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> --
>
> "There is no better way to exercise the imagination than the study of
> the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
> interprets the truth."
> -- Jean Giradoux
>
> --
> This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
> Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
>
>

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 20:57:47 -0800
From: "William S. Lovell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

John Palmer wrote:

> Its not promotional material - its an announcement about a matter relevant
> to this list.

Which is?

(I simply forwarded this to the FTC as SPAM.  Mine is an equal
opportunity anti-spam facility.)

Bill Lovell

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William X Walsh" <[email-masked]>
> To: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online
>
> > Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 6:52:14 PM, John Palmer wrote:
> >
> > > As of 1500 UTC, the Lion-MAIL Bridge is now operational
> >
> > > Details at www.adns.net
> >
> > I didn't realize that the DNSO GA list was a place for companies to
> > post promotional materials for email services.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> > --

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:45:10 +0100
From: Thomas Roessler <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

When compared to certain other topics which deserve IMMEDIATE discussion 
and possibly action, this is as irrelevant as it can get.

Please stop this thread.

John Palmer wrote:

> From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online
> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:27:36 -0600
> 
> I disagree.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William X Walsh" <[email-masked]>
> To: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:52 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online
> 
> 
>> Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 7:38:47 PM, John Palmer wrote:
>> 
>> > Its not promotional material - its an announcement about a matter
> relevant
>> > to this list.
>> 
>> Not at all relevant.  It was nothing but an advertisement for
>> something that has no relevance here whatsoever.
>> 
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
>> --
>> 
>> "There is no better way to exercise the imagination than the study of
>> the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
>> interprets the truth."
>> -- Jean Giradoux
>> 
>> --
>> This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
>> Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
>> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
>> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
> Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
- -- 
Thomas Roessler (mobile) <[email-masked]>
- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:52:18 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:45:10 +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote:

> When compared to certain other topics which deserve IMMEDIATE discussion 
> and possibly action, this is as irrelevant as it can get.
> 
> Please stop this thread.

Hi Thomas

Is Alexander Svensson no longer the List Monitor ?

Regards
Patrick Corliss

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:07:03 +1300
From: Joop Teernstra <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ouch!

 From Stuart Lynns' thoughts:

"The reconsideration process is another,
      where precious staff and Board time have been devoted to what are
      often clearly frivolous requests. The incipient Independent Review
     Panel has all the hallmarks of adding to this waste."

- --Joop

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:45:36 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:44:20 +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote:

> (This is my last posting in this thread.  Depending on the level of
> irrelevance of further postings, I may ask Alexander to send out
> some warnings; this may, in particular, concern further commercial
> announcements from the home-brewn root community.  This GA really
> cannot afford that kind of nonsense any more.)

Hi Thomas

Are you saying that you are making the decision as to what is "off topic" as I
understood that was the role of the person you appointed as list monitor viz.
Alexander Svennson?

Regards
Patrick Corliss

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:15:00 -0800 (PST)
From: PacificRoot Hostmaster <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Thomas Roessler wrote:

> When compared to certain other topics which deserve IMMEDIATE discussion 
> and possibly action, this is as irrelevant as it can get.
> 
> Please stop this thread.

NOPE. Don't think so.

The ICANN General Assembly is VERY interested in emerging email solutions
for the Inclusive Name Space - as evidenced by the Q&A both during, and
immediately following my presentation at the GA meeting at the annual
meeting in Marina Del Rey this past November.

Besides, we all need to get serious now that ICANN has all but admitted
that it's a total and complete failure, what with all the other
governements abandoning the Alternate, Deprecated, ICANN legacy system in
favor of the root-level service providers that cater to the entire
Inclusive Name Space.

ICANN may only be handing everyone their hat now, but before you know it
they'll cease all root-level operations too.

So John, tell us all more about this wonderful public service to the
global Internet community that ASLAN has donated to the cause of the
greater good and how exactly does it work?

And you Thomas, if you like you can just reach down with that long neck of
yours and stick your head in the sand.

> 
> John Palmer wrote:
> 
> > From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online
> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:27:36 -0600
> > 
> > I disagree.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William X Walsh" <[email-masked]>
> > To: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:52 PM
> > Subject: Re[2]: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online
> > 
> > 
> >> Sunday, Sunday, February 24, 2002, 7:38:47 PM, John Palmer wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Its not promotional material - its an announcement about a matter
> > relevant
> >> > to this list.
> >> 
> >> Not at all relevant.  It was nothing but an advertisement for
> >> something that has no relevance here whatsoever.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
> >> --
> >> 
> >> "There is no better way to exercise the imagination than the study of
> >> the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
> >> interprets the truth."
> >> -- Jean Giradoux
> >> 
> >> --
> >> This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
> >> Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
> >> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> >> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > --
> > This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
> > Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
> > ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> > Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
> -- 
> Thomas Roessler (mobile) <[email-masked]>
> --
> This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
> Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
> 

Bradley D. Thornton
Chief Technology Officer
The PacificRoot/Joint Technologies Ltd.
http://www.PacificRoot.com
http://www.JointTech.com

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:26:42 -0800 (PST)
From: PacificRoot Hostmaster <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] KING OF IRELAND POLICY - OR THE ICANN SUICIDE

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> 
> When the guy in charge shouts "I am unable to manage because everyone 
> disagree with me, I am broke, please call the army in: if my ennemies help 
> me we will make it", usually the Stock Exchange notices it.
> 
> Stuart, you should have published that on Friday, not on Sunday night ...
> 

ROFLMAOPMP!

yup, the alternate root finally begins it's downward spiral, and at the
helm is Cap'n Stu screamin' "Battle Stations Battle Stations - Never give
up the ship - oh uh.... Where the hell is my private life boat?"

Cap'n Stu also forgets that the Internet is privately owned and operated
by the corporations that permit the government access to pass over it LOL

right to pass revocable by owner at any time. The government has to pay
for their subscription access just like everyone else.

> 
> 

- --

Bradley D. Thornton
Chief Technology Officer
The PacificRoot/Joint Technologies Ltd.
http://www.PacificRoot.com
http://www.JointTech.com

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:21:34 +1100
From: "Patrick Corliss" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:15:00 -0800 (PST), Bradley Thornton wrote:

> Besides, we all need to get serious now that ICANN has all but admitted
> that it's a total and complete failure,

But we knew that, didn't we ?

> what with all the other
> governements abandoning the Alternate, Deprecated, ICANN legacy system in
> favor of the root-level service providers that cater to the entire
> Inclusive Name Space.

Can I ask which governments are you talking about here, Brad?

China?  Or are there some others?

Regards
Patrick Corliss

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:20:54 +0100
From: Jefsey Morfin <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] sTLD

I am not sure I read everything in Stuart"s abdication, but I understand 
that the gTLD have a structure and the gTLD have another one (on the US 
globle there is no more countries, just geographical areas of identical DNS 
culture). Are the other TLDs accomodated at the TLDA?
jfc

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:42:21 +0100
From: Alexander Svensson <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Few preliminary comments on Lynn proposal

Dear all,

my comments on the Lynn proposal are very preliminary,
since I still have lots of questions about it and
may not understand all parts of it fully.

At http://www.icannchannel.de/lynn-proposal.pdf (43 kB)
I have a chart showing the new ICANN Board structure
(again: I'm not sure if everything is correct and
would appreciate feedback!). 

Frankly, the Board seems to elect itself according
to this proposal:
- -- The CEO on the Board is elected by the Board.
- -- The 10 "At Large" Trustees are confirmed by the
   Board. (However, since 5 are governmental
   delegates, the de facto veto power may be
   diminished.)
- -- 5 of the 10 "At Large" Trustees are nominated
   by the Nominating Committee which consists of
   a Chair (appointed by the CEO -- see above),
   5 members of the Board and 3 members appointed
   by the Board.
- -- The Nominating Committee (see above) appoints 
   3 members of the Address+Numbering PC Steering
   Group, 5 members of the Generic TLD Names PC
   Steering Group, 4 members of the Geographic
   TLD Names PC Steering Group and 3 members of
   the Technical Advisory Committee.
   The Chairs of these policy councils and the
   Technical Advisory Committee are ex officio
   members of the Board.

The "Steering Groups" are the equivalent to the current 
"Councils", but they have their own staff and access to 
ICANN resources. The interest groups formerly called 
"Constituencies" are now "Forums".

How do non-commercial and individual users make sure their voice 
is heard? Let's assume there is a Non-Commercial Forum (or 
even more than one) and an Individual Domain Holder or User Forum.
(We don't know what the "well-defined minimal criteria for 
recognition of new self-organized Forums" would be.) These 
Forums could succeed in getting a topic they deem important on the
agenda of e.g. the Generic TLD Names Policy Council Steering 
Group. They could succeed in agreeing with the other members 
of the Steering Group to write a policy recommendation for the
Board of Trustees. However, the Board of Trustees (just like
the current Board of Directors) would be free to ignore any and
all advice ("strong weight based on its persuasive merits, but 
not presumptive validity"). To have an influence on the ICANN
process, having a seat on the Board and/or the new Nominating 
Committee seem to be good places.

Any comments?

Best regards,
/// Alexander 

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:48:39 +0100
From: "DNSO Secretariat" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] NC teleconf agenda 28 Feb NC Chair election

DNSO Names Council Teleconference on 28 February 2002 - Agenda
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ----
25 February 2002.

This agenda was established according to the Rules of Procedure for the DNSO
Names Council http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010711.NCprocedures-v4.0.html

Date, time, phone numbers

The Names Council teleconference will be held on 28 February 2002 at the
following time:

(6:00 LA, 9:00 New York, 15:00 Paris, 23:00 Japan/Korea, 01:00 (next day)
Melbourne)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Local time between November and end March, WINTER in the NORTHERN
hemisphere
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Reference (Coordinated Universal Time)     UTC         14:00
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Auckland, New Zealand                      UTC+12+1DST 03:OO Friday
    Jerusalem, Israel                          UTC+2+ODST  16:00
    California, USA                            UTC-8+0DST   6:00
    Missouri, USA                              UTC-6+0DST   8:00
    Monterrey, Mexico                          UTC-6+0DST   8:00
    Washington DC, USA                   (EST) UTC-5+0DST   9:00
    St.Thomas, Virgin Islands                  UTC-4+0DST  10:00
    Santiago, Chile                            UTC-4+1DST  11:00
    Buenos Aires, Argentina                    UTC-3+0DST  11:00
    London, United Kingdom                     UTC+0+0DST  14:00
    Brussels, Belgium                    (CET) UTC+1+0DST  15:00
    Barcelona, Spain                     (CET) UTC+1+0DST  15:00
    Frankfurt, Germany                   (CET) UTC+1+0DST  15:00
    Paris, France                        (CET) UTC+1+0DST  15:00
    Seoul, Korea                               UTC+9+0DST  23:00
    Tokyo,Japan                                UTC+9+0DST  23:00
    Melbourne, Australia                       UTC+10+1DST 01:00 Friday
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    The DST ends/starts on last Sunday of March (with some exceptions)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    For other places see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

The Conference telebridge will be through WorldCom Conferencing

USA Toll Number: +1-610-769-9240

PASSCODE: Names Council
LEADER: Philip Sheppard

The full participants are the 21 NC members as listed in
http://www.dnso.org/constituency/ncmembers.html
DNSO Secretariat, ICANN Officers: Louis Touton, Theresa Swinehart

The secretary, Glen de St. Gery, will take notes

The conference MPEG3 recording will be provided by Alix Guillard

Agenda

Elisabeth Porteneuve will be chairing the NC teleconference.

Running time for meeting - 30 mins
15.00 to 15:30 Paris time
Allocated time - 30 mins.

1. Election of Names Council Chair

2. Any other Business

Next NC meeting will be held on Tuesday 12 March 2002, in Accra, Ghana at
15:00 to 18:00 UTC.

See information about the Ghana meetings in:

http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-21jan02.htm
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- ----Information from:
 © DNSO Names Council

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:03:32 +0100 (CET)
From: Marc Schneiders <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Few preliminary comments on Lynn proposal

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, at 16:42 [=GMT+0100], Alexander Svensson wrote:

> At http://www.icannchannel.de/lynn-proposal.pdf (43 kB)
> I have a chart showing the new ICANN Board structure
> (again: I'm not sure if everything is correct and
> would appreciate feedback!).
>
> Frankly, the Board seems to elect itself according
> to this proposal:

Indeed, there should be additional arrows in your very helpfull chart from
the nominating committee to all the bodies they fill. It is one great
circular self-appointing and self-perpetuating structure.

- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:44:20 +0100
From: Thomas Roessler <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] LION-MAIL Inclusive Namespace to USG Bridge Online

On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:52:18PM +1100, Patrick Corliss wrote:

> Is Alexander Svensson no longer the List Monitor ?

Of course, Alexander continues to be the list monitor.

Anyway, Alexander being the list monitor certainly does not prevent
me from asking the GA to focus on its business.

This business includes:

- - The restructuring proposal just posted to ICANN's web site which
  replaces at-large directors as we know them by government and
  board appointees, and seems (at first, superficial reading) to put
  the current SOs partially under board control.

- - Deleted domain handling with all its facets.

- - Registrar transfers.

- - (possibly) whois.  When you look at the web archives of that task
  force's mailing list, you'll notice a draft report on the bulk
  access part of the survey, which - I hope - will be discussed in
  Ghana.

- - The things I'm forgetting to mention right now.

Given this list of topics, it's ridiculous and a waste of time and
bandwidth to start a thread about a mail bridge between the
so-called "inclusive namespace" and the Internet. In fact, pursuing
such distractions does precisely one thing: Produce ample evidence
for the reasoning behind Stuart Lynn's restructuring proposal.

By the way, some of his rationale is very much worth thinking about.
The problem lies in the conclusions.

(This is my last posting in this thread.  Depending on the level of
irrelevance of further postings, I may ask Alexander to send out
some warnings; this may, in particular, concern further commercial
announcements from the home-brewn root community.  This GA really
cannot afford that kind of nonsense any more.)

- -- 
Thomas Roessler				<[email-masked]>
- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:55:20 -0800
From: Harold Whiting <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] RE: restructuring proposal.

<snip>
>In fact, pursuing such distractions does precisely one thing: Produce
ample evidence for the reasoning behind Stuart Lynn's restructuring proposal.
>
>By the way, some of his rationale is very much worth thinking about. The
problem lies in the conclusions.
>

Right on the money. Bingo. Hit the nail on the head.
well, you get the idea!
- --HJW--
Harold Whiting
- --
This message was passed to you via the [email-masked] list.
Send mail to [email-masked] to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html

------------------------------

End of GA-DIGEST V1 #1050
*************************