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GA-DIGEST             Friday, July 7 2000             Volume 01 : Number 099

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:54:48 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Hello Rick,

Thursday, July 06, 2000, 2:51:14 PM, you wrote:

> William,

> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:

>> First of all, the ORSC does not run TLDs. They run a root zone, which
>> is available via AXFR.  I know this for a fact.  I did an axfr before
>> posting this message just to make sure that nothing had changed in the
>> months since I last did one.

> ok, I got the zone now, by ftp, their root server has anonymous ftp on it.
> wow, security!

Same way I get the root zone from NSI, anonymous FTP at their FTP
server.  Wow, openness.

First you try and criticize them for not being open, and then when you
find you can get it through an open access means, you criticize them
for not being more closed about it?

Sheesh, Rick, grow up.  Really.

>> As for the TLDs themselves, you have to make arrangements with the TLD
>> operators themselves.  That has nothing to do with the ORSC.

> ok, I'll try that out seems some are allowing axfr also but the ones I've
> gotten so far only have a few deligations on them max, 15 or so. you think
> there is anything under .earth or .USA?

Again, you are confusing the TLD operators with the ORSC.  You
criticized the ORSC, and are now making it about the TLD operators who
do or do not allow axfr transfers.  Contact the TLD operators, they
are all independent and run their own show.

>> It seems to me you have not expended any effort at all before posting
>> incorrect and irresponsible criticism of the ORSC.  As I said before,
>> I do not agree with the ORSC's positions, but in this case, you owe
>> them a clear apology.

> gee, have't you read this list for the past 4 years, its all about posting
> incorrect and irresponsible criticism of everyone. all I want to know is
> growth rates for rogue TLDs.

Then take some responsibility for getting the information and checking
things out before making overly harsh and irresponsible criticisms.

> the ORSC experiment has been going on for some time now and I'd like to
> verify its success or failure. do you have a problem with that?

No, I don't.  I'm not a part of the ORSC.  Personally, I think it has
been a failure, and will continue to be so.  But that doesn't mean I
sponsor your type of publicly irresponsible and baseless attacks and
criticisms when the information was right in front of your face the
whole time.

You want the .earth zone?  Email ADNS, don't complain about the ORSC
not giving it to you when they have nothing to do with it.

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:10:46 -0700
From: Kent Crispin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 02:13:36PM -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
> Hello Rick,
> 
> This message just shows me how irresponsible you are being in your
> criticisms.
> 
> First of all, the ORSC does not run TLDs.  They run a root zone, which
> is available via AXFR.  I know this for a fact.  I did an axfr before
> posting this message just to make sure that nothing had changed in the
> months since I last did one.

Congratulations on successfully deflecting the question.

Rick said "ORSC folks", and that he was requesting the *TLD* zones.  He
wasn't asking about the ORSC root zone.  His first question was to John
Palmer, who has been making claims about the growth of his zones. 

> As for the TLDs themselves, you have to make arrangements with the TLD
> operators themselves.  That has nothing to do with the ORSC.

In that ORSC claims to be a consortium of the various TLD operators, it
most certainly does have something to do with ORSC.  It has to do with 
the consistency, reliability, and availability of the zone information 
that ORSC as a whole provides.

> It seems to me you have not expended any effort at all before posting
> incorrect and irresponsible criticism of the ORSC.  As I said before,
> I do not agree with the ORSC's positions, but in this case, you owe
> them a clear apology.

When ORSC want's to look big and important, it bills itself as a
"consortium"; when it wants to duck any responsibility, it says "who,
me??? I don't know anything about those guys, I'm just a poor little
root zone"...  But I suppose you are right -- Rick made the mistake of
looking at the word "consortium" and thinking that it meant something.  
He should apologize for that mistake.

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:14:30 -0700
From: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Rick, if you're interested in the .web zone, feel free to contact me
directly. What can I do for you?

> gee, have't you read this list for the past 4 years, its all about posting
> incorrect and irresponsible criticism of everyone. all I want to know is
> growth rates for rogue TLDs.

You want to talk about growth? So glad you asked.

Christopher

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:15:52 -0500
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

We will not allow him to have a copy of our customer list which is what he
is asking for.

John

- ----- Original Message -----
From: William X. Walsh <[email-masked]>
To: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Cc: John Palmer <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

> Hello Rick,
>
> Thursday, July 06, 2000, 2:51:14 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> > William,
>
> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:
>
> >> First of all, the ORSC does not run TLDs. They run a root zone, which
> >> is available via AXFR.  I know this for a fact.  I did an axfr before
> >> posting this message just to make sure that nothing had changed in the
> >> months since I last did one.
>
> > ok, I got the zone now, by ftp, their root server has anonymous ftp on
it.
> > wow, security!
>
> Same way I get the root zone from NSI, anonymous FTP at their FTP
> server.  Wow, openness.
>
> First you try and criticize them for not being open, and then when you
> find you can get it through an open access means, you criticize them
> for not being more closed about it?
>
> Sheesh, Rick, grow up.  Really.
>
> >> As for the TLDs themselves, you have to make arrangements with the TLD
> >> operators themselves.  That has nothing to do with the ORSC.
>
> > ok, I'll try that out seems some are allowing axfr also but the ones
I've
> > gotten so far only have a few deligations on them max, 15 or so. you
think
> > there is anything under .earth or .USA?
>
> Again, you are confusing the TLD operators with the ORSC.  You
> criticized the ORSC, and are now making it about the TLD operators who
> do or do not allow axfr transfers.  Contact the TLD operators, they
> are all independent and run their own show.
>
> >> It seems to me you have not expended any effort at all before posting
> >> incorrect and irresponsible criticism of the ORSC.  As I said before,
> >> I do not agree with the ORSC's positions, but in this case, you owe
> >> them a clear apology.
>
> > gee, have't you read this list for the past 4 years, its all about
posting
> > incorrect and irresponsible criticism of everyone. all I want to know is
> > growth rates for rogue TLDs.
>
> Then take some responsibility for getting the information and checking
> things out before making overly harsh and irresponsible criticisms.
>
> > the ORSC experiment has been going on for some time now and I'd like to
> > verify its success or failure. do you have a problem with that?
>
> No, I don't.  I'm not a part of the ORSC.  Personally, I think it has
> been a failure, and will continue to be so.  But that doesn't mean I
> sponsor your type of publicly irresponsible and baseless attacks and
> criticisms when the information was right in front of your face the
> whole time.
>
> You want the .earth zone?  Email ADNS, don't complain about the ORSC
> not giving it to you when they have nothing to do with it.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  William                            mailto:[email-masked]
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:36:46 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Hello John,

Thursday, July 06, 2000, 3:15:52 PM, you wrote:

> We will not allow him to have a copy of our customer list which is what he
> is asking for.

No, he is asking for the DNS zone.  And if you won't let someone have
a copy of the DNS zone, then the only safe assumption is that one does
not want the public to know the small size of the DNS zone in
question.

I can think of no valid reason to deny access to the dns zone.

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:42:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

John,

I never asked for any customer list, only the zone file for the TLDs you
opperate, that is all.

- -rick

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:

> We will not allow him to have a copy of our customer list which is what he
> is asking for.
> 
> John

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:58:10 -0500
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Well you aren't going to get it. That information is not and should not
be available to the public as far as I'm concerned. Too much mischief
can be done. I have an obligation to my customers not to make it
easy for a spammer or other miscreant to get hold of their
information.

I know, I know - you could guess some domain names and
do a DIG DOMAINNAME.USA @199.5.156.2 or use
our domain lookup on the web page, but you wont have the
whole list.

If I wanted an official audit, I would hire a bonded audit firm. (This
is being considered). This protects my customers as well as giving
credibility to the results.

I'm not saying that you mean any harm, but it would do no
good for you to do some sort of survey - better let the experts
like an audit firm do that.

Thats my last word on the subject.
John

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
To: John Palmer <[email-masked]>
Cc: William X. Walsh <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>;
<[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

>
> John,
>
> I never asked for any customer list, only the zone file for the TLDs you
> opperate, that is all.
>
> -rick
>
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:
>
> > We will not allow him to have a copy of our customer list which is what
he
> > is asking for.
> >
> > John
>
>

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:10:34 -0700
From: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Rick and I just had a chat, and I offered him statistical access
to our v4 system that we are releasing shortly after Yokohama.

I also gave him access to one of our test servers, though I
suspect the data there is worthless for his purposes. Our v3
zone has been frozen for some time pending the upgrade
and any changes we want to make based on what we hear
in Yokohama.

Anyone else wants zone access on v4, drop me private
mail and I'll be glad to help.

Christopher

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:16:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Chris,

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Christopher Ambler wrote:

> Rick and I just had a chat, and I offered him statistical access
> to our v4 system that we are releasing shortly after Yokohama.

Since you are disclosing private conversations I'll back you up a bit.

> I also gave him access to one of our test servers, though I
> suspect the data there is worthless for his purposes. Our v3
> zone has been frozen for some time pending the upgrade
> and any changes we want to make based on what we hear
> in Yokohama.

I note ths SOA for his .web zone is 1999062503 meaning it hasn't been
updated since over a year ago.
 
- -rick

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:21:10 -0700
From: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

> > Rick and I just had a chat, and I offered him statistical access
> > to our v4 system that we are releasing shortly after Yokohama.
> 
> Since you are disclosing private conversations I'll back you up a bit.

I figured mentioning that we had a chat was okay :-)
 
> > I also gave him access to one of our test servers, though I
> > suspect the data there is worthless for his purposes. Our v3
> > zone has been frozen for some time pending the upgrade
> > and any changes we want to make based on what we hear
> > in Yokohama.
> 
> I note ths SOA for his .web zone is 1999062503 meaning it hasn't been
> updated since over a year ago.

On the server I gave you, that's sort-of correct - the SOA itself hasn't
been updated because we're testing zone operations software on it,
and the SOA isn't relevant right now. That's the serial number for the
zone we took, modified, and are playing with. Like I mentioned, I
gave you access to a hacking zone until we roll out the dynamic
zone system (v4) after Yokohama. It's got a few nice surprises that
we want to unveil after the meeting :-)

Christopher

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Rogue DNS (was Re: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users )about ICANN

Chris,

The SOA is from 207.114.179.254 which I got from the ORSC root zone file,
not from our private conversation.

are you telling me the information below is not correct?

- -rick

;
;
; IOdesigns TLD
;
WEB.                172000    NS    NS.NIC.WEB.
NS.NIC.WEB.         172000    A     207.114.179.254
WEB.                172000    NS    NS2.NIC.WEB.
NS2.NIC.WEB.        172000    A     206.190.80.1
WEB.                172000    NS    NS1.VRX.NET.
WEB.                172000    TXT   "[email-masked] Jul96"

> > I note ths SOA for his .web zone is 1999062503 meaning it hasn't been
> > updated since over a year ago.
> 
> On the server I gave you, that's sort-of correct - the SOA itself hasn't
> been updated because we're testing zone operations software on it,
> and the SOA isn't relevant right now. That's the serial number for the
> zone we took, modified, and are playing with. Like I mentioned, I
> gave you access to a hacking zone until we roll out the dynamic
> zone system (v4) after Yokohama. It's got a few nice surprises that
> we want to unveil after the meeting :-)
> 
> Christopher
> 

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:29:35 -0700
From: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

John, I have to agree with Rick, that, with the exception of bandwidth
issues, there's no reason to limit access to the zone of a TLD. I suspect
that it might help someone writing a bot to crawl the sites, but that's
minimal. What other kind of mischief can be perpetrated with a zone
file? What good does it do a spammer? Let's them try guessable
email addresses at every domain name? I think finding the domains
via dig, or whois is just as simple.

Sorry, I don't see the downside here, especially if access is denied
except to those who ask for it. On a case-by-case basis, for example,
I have no problem giving Rick access to the .web zone. Indeed, if
he comes up with any problems or insights, I suspect he'd share
them with me and do me a service.

Christopher

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>

> Well you aren't going to get it. That information is not and should not
> be available to the public as far as I'm concerned. Too much mischief
> can be done. I have an obligation to my customers not to make it
> easy for a spammer or other miscreant to get hold of their
> information.
> 
> I know, I know - you could guess some domain names and
> do a DIG DOMAINNAME.USA @199.5.156.2 or use
> our domain lookup on the web page, but you wont have the
> whole list.
> 
> If I wanted an official audit, I would hire a bonded audit firm. (This
> is being considered). This protects my customers as well as giving
> credibility to the results.
> 
> I'm not saying that you mean any harm, but it would do no
> good for you to do some sort of survey - better let the experts
> like an audit firm do that.
> 
> Thats my last word on the subject.

Sorry to hear that...

Christopher

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:32:20 -0700
From: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Rogue DNS (was Re: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users)about ICANN

Hrm, yes, appears that the ORSC root zone is still pointing to the
older v3.1 servers. We'll update ORSC with the IPs for the v4
servers after Yokohama. Feel free to nose around the v3.1
servers all you want, again with the caveat that they're being
messed with pending the upgrade.

And, before anyone else says anything, we wouldn't be playing
this "fast and loose" were we in the traditional roots. Until then,
however, we'll take the opportunity for some serious experimenting.

Christopher

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick H Wesson" <[email-masked]>
To: "Christopher Ambler" <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:27 PM
Subject: Rogue DNS (was Re: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet
Users)about ICANN

>
> Chris,
>
>
> The SOA is from 207.114.179.254 which I got from the ORSC root zone file,
> not from our private conversation.
>
> are you telling me the information below is not correct?
>
> -rick
>
> ;
> ;
> ; IOdesigns TLD
> ;
> WEB.                172000    NS    NS.NIC.WEB.
> NS.NIC.WEB.         172000    A     207.114.179.254
> WEB.                172000    NS    NS2.NIC.WEB.
> NS2.NIC.WEB.        172000    A     206.190.80.1
> WEB.                172000    NS    NS1.VRX.NET.
> WEB.                172000    TXT   "[email-masked] Jul96"
>
>
> > > I note ths SOA for his .web zone is 1999062503 meaning it hasn't been
> > > updated since over a year ago.
> >
> > On the server I gave you, that's sort-of correct - the SOA itself hasn't
> > been updated because we're testing zone operations software on it,
> > and the SOA isn't relevant right now. That's the serial number for the
> > zone we took, modified, and are playing with. Like I mentioned, I
> > gave you access to a hacking zone until we roll out the dynamic
> > zone system (v4) after Yokohama. It's got a few nice surprises that
> > we want to unveil after the meeting :-)
> >
> > Christopher
> >

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:36:12 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[8]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Hello John,

Thursday, July 06, 2000, 3:58:10 PM, you wrote:

> Well you aren't going to get it. That information is not and should not
> be available to the public as far as I'm concerned. Too much mischief
> can be done. I have an obligation to my customers not to make it
> easy for a spammer or other miscreant to get hold of their
> information.

Sorry, John, but there is no valid reason to hide this information.

You can't expect to be taken serously if you hide behind this thin
veil of secrecy.

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:08:18 +0200 (MET DST)
From: DNSO Secretariat <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] ccTLD Joint Workshop on Multilingual Internet Names in Yokohama

FYI.

DNSO Secretariat
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Version 1.2
2000.7.2

Joint Workshop on Multilingual Internet Names

   Date: 2000.7.17 Monday 0900-1700
   Place: Yokohama Pacifico (Room 501)

Hosting Organizations:

   MINC (Multilingual Internet Names Consortium)
   AFTLD
   APTLD
   IATLD
   LACTLD

Organizing Committee:

   YJ Park,      Co-Chair
   Shigeki Goto, Co-Chair
   Yann Kwok
   Oscar Robles
   Peter de Blanc
   Antony van Couvering

Program Committee:

   Kilnam Chon, Chair
   Tan Tinwee
   Yoshiro Yoneya

Workshop Program

 Theme: Introduction of multilingual internet names to ICANN-INET
        participants from 100 countries.

 0900-1130 Tutorial
           Chair Tan Tinwee

   Introduction of what is the multilingual internet names to general users
   of the Internet, i.e., ICANN and INET participants

     Introduction/overview
     Case: multilingual domain names
     Case: other multilingual names

 1300-1500 Technical Perspective Session
           Chaird by Y Yoneya

   Describe the current status on technology to support the multilingual
   names

      James Seng (IETF/idn)
      Martin Duerst (IETF/W3C)
      David Conrad (ISC/Nominum)
      Bill Semich (.nu)
      Wen-Sung Chen (TWNIC)
      Yasuhiro Morishita (JPNIC)
      Patik Falstrom
      Manoj Srivastava (NSI)
      Open discussion

 1530-1700 Global Perspective Session
           Chaired by YJ Park

   Presentation from each region's perspective(10~15 minutes each) followed
   by discussion

     Africa (Yann Kwok)
     Europe (Eva Froelich)
     Arab (Mohamed Gergawi)
     Asia (HL Qian)
     North America (Peter de Blanc)
     Latin America (Oscar Robles)

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:48:20 +0200 (MET DST)
From: DNSO Secretariat <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] RESULTS of the STARTUP VOTE on the voting rules for the GA of the DNSO

Dear GA Members,

The proposed voting rules are adopted by 56 in favor, 5 against.

The complete information with regard to the vote is provided
in http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-startup.html

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ICANN/DNSO

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                           DNSO General Assembly
   RESULTS of the STARTUP VOTE on the voting rules for the GA of the DNSO

6 July 2000

RESULTS of the STARTUP VOTE on the voting rules for the GA of the DNSO

Electorate: 117 persons in a vote roster, when the ballot was sent out

Voted: 61

Vote results:

   * 56 votes [X] I want the voting rules at
   * 5 votes [X] I do not want the voting rules at

According to the suggested rules we vote on
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html:

     5. In the case where the question is a new rule or rule change for
     the GA, the number of votes in favour of the winning alternative
     must be at least 2/3 of cast votes, with a minimum number of cast
     votes being the lower of 20% of the registered voters or 100 votes

The "2/3 of cast votes" is 41.

The "20% of the registered voters" is 24.

The requested minimum of affirmative votes is 24.

Therefore the proposed rules are adopted (56 "I want" is greater than 41,
the "2/3 of cast votes").

Vote records.

   * Each voter got an aknowledge quoting his ballot as received.
   * Each voter may recognize its ballot in the attached public record by
     his personnal code.
   * We had 5 special cases, all accepted as it was the very first vote, and
     many persons could get confused:
       1. one voter put "Y" instead of "X", "I want", taken
       2. one voter put "*" instead of "X", "I do not want", taken
       3. two voters did not put "X", but quoted one line "I want", taken
       4. one voter did not put "X", but quoted one line "I do not want",
          taken

If we do not accept any of these cases then the results should be:

   * 53 votes [X] I want the voting rules at
   * 3 votes [X] I do not want the voting rules at
   * 5 nuls or abstentions

The 53 "I want" is greater than 41, the "2/3 of cast votes". In such a
situation the proposed rules would be adopted as well.

Public record

Ballot sent with       2 choices
           b01:[ ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
           b01:[ ] I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved

Electorate of     117 persons, casting one vote each
Ballots received from      61 persons (sorted by arrival time)
           Elisabeth Porteneuve
           Kendall Dawson
           Alejandro Pisanty
           Dori Kornfeld
           Barkley Jones
           James H. Cloos, Jr.
           Ron Oslund
           Alexander Svensson
           Harald Tveit Alvestrand
           Eric Weisberg
           Rick H Wesson
           Peter de Blanc
           Abner Santiago
           Richard W. Kroon
           Dennis Schaefer
           Dave Geurs
           Soaring Bear
           Terry Muska
           Marc Schneiders
           Marilyn Cade
           Otho B. Ross
           Kevin M. Kelly
           Joop Teernstra
           Dandjinou Pierre
           Philip Sheppard
           Keith Gymer
           Darryl G Lynch
           Ramesh Kumar Nadarajah
           Giacomo Catenazzi
           Chuck Gomes
           David Farrar
           Douglas Loo
           Roberto Gaetano
           Chris Neal
           Micha Reisel
           Alf Hansen
           Paul Stahura
           Janet Dagley Dagley
           Rod Dixon
           Dale Farmer
           YINGWEI WANG
           Darrell Greenwood
           Mark Measday
           Annie Renard
           Henning Grote
           Oscar Robles
           Steve Parrish
           David Johnson
           Jeff Field
           Jeffrey Williams
           Jean-Michel Becar
           Jonathan Weinberg
           Kougias George
           G Wesley Pierson
           Kyle Taylor
           Michael F. McNulty
           Timothy Denton
           Patrick Corliss
           Leah Gallegos
           Joseph Friedman
           Anna Pinkes

Casted votes (sorted by personal code)
           b01:K1bc1Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K2161Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K2606Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K2901Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K2aa1Z casted  1 votes
               (case 1) put an "Y" instead of "X", "I want"
               b01:K2aa1Z:[Y] I want the voting rules at
               VOTE TAKEN as b01:K2aa1Z:[X] I want
           b01:K2b46Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K2efcZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K3111Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K31ddZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K33b4Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K33f7Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K36e7Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K402fZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K43e7Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K45dcZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K4964Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K5323Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K5390Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K53e1Z casted  1 votes
               (case 2) did not put "X", but quoted one line "I want"
               << b01:K53e1Z:[ ] I want the voting rules at
               VOTE TAKEN as b01:K53e1Z:[X] I want
           b01:K568dZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K581cZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K5b79Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K61d3Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K63f2Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K645bZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K67b1Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K6a86Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K6b60Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K6c42Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K6e75Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K7150Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K7c09Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K7c6bZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K7f42Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K827bZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K89ceZ casted  1 votes
               (case 3) did not put "X", but quoted one line "I do not want"
               b01:K89ceZ:[ ] I do not want the voting rules at
               VOTE TAKEN as b01:K89ceZ:[X] I do not want
           b01:K9375Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K9377Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K962bZ casted  1 votes
           b01:K98b9Z casted  1 votes
           b01:K9dafZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Ka378Z casted  1 votes
           b01:KabecZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Kad59Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kb261Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kb5deZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Kba16Z casted  1 votes
               (case 4) did not put "X", but quoted one line "I want"
               b01:Kba16Z:[ ] I want the voting rules at
               VOTE TAKEN as b01:Kba16Z:[X] I want
           b01:Kbd38Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kc0a6Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kc453Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kcd79Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kce1aZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Kcf82Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kd726Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kdb3cZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Kdcf7Z casted  1 votes
               (case 5) did not put "X", but quoted one line "I do not want"
               b01:Kdcf7Z:[* ] I do not want the voting rules at
               VOTE TAKEN as b01:Kdcf7Z:[X] I do not want
           b01:Kdfd6Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Ke5deZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Kf22cZ casted  1 votes
           b01:Kf5c3Z casted  1 votes
           b01:Kfbf9Z casted  1 votes

Nb of casted votes      61
Vote results, full list:
(sorted by number of votes received, lowest first, alphabetical)
           5 I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
           56 I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved

Public results (sorted by personal code)
 b01:K1bc1Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K2161Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K2606Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K2901Z:[ x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K2aa1Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K2b46Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K2efcZ:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K3111Z:[X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K31ddZ:[x ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K33b4Z:[X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K33f7Z:[ X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K36e7Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K402fZ:[x] I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K43e7Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K45dcZ:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K4964Z:[X] I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K5323Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K5390Z:[ x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K53e1Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved >>
 b01:K568dZ:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K581cZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K5b79Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K61d3Z:[X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K63f2Z:[x ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K645bZ:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K67b1Z:[ X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K6a86Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K6b60Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K6c42Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K6e75Z:[X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K7150Z:[ x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K7c09Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K7c6bZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K7f42Z:[X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K827bZ:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K89ceZ:[x] I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K9375Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K9377Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K962bZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K98b9Z:[x ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:K9dafZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Ka378Z:[ X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:KabecZ:[ X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kad59Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kb261Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kb5deZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kba16Z:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kbd38Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kc0a6Z:[x ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kc453Z:[X] I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kcd79Z:[ X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kce1aZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kcf82Z:[ x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kd726Z:[X ] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kdb3cZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kdcf7Z:[X ] I do not want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kdfd6Z:[ X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Ke5deZ:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kf22cZ:[x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kf5c3Z:[ x] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved
 b01:Kfbf9Z:[X] I want the voting rules at www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-voting-rules.html to be approved

These 56 persons did not voted:
        Christopher B. Neal
        Collignon Francois
        John Patrick Palmer
        Maureen E. Ruppert
        Juan R. Gonzalez
        James Brian DeRosa
        Kit Winter
        Michael Froomkin
        William X. Walsh
        Robert F. Connelly
        Loic Damilaville
        Mark Langston
        Judith Oppenheimer
        Doron Shikmoni
        Kevin J. Connolly
        Alec Barea
        Gerald St. Amand
        Frank L. Politano
        David Teten
        Wawa A. Ngenge
        Rick Harris
        Joe Salkowski
        Shawn LaMaster
        Brad Waller
        Linda Welter Cohen
        Greg N. Burton
        Gary Osbourne
        Ge Fusheng
        Ann Bradley
        Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
        Jeff Shrewsbury
        Babajide Afolabi
        Jorge Plano
        Colin Jin
        Kristy McKee
        Michael Palage
        John C Lewis
        Christopher Milner
        ken stubbs
        Alexander Boeker
        Josh Elliott
        Len Bayles
        T. D. Tuitt
        Bill Munson
        Clifford Paravicini
        Lauren Gaviser
        Marcus Alexander Hampe De Arellano
        Clara Collado
        Carlos Vera
        Theresa Swinehart
        Richard Lindsay
        Tobias Kleck
        Florencio Utreras
        Elana Broitman
        Brian Barreira
        Eric C. Brown

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