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GA-DIGEST            Thursday, July 6 2000            Volume 01 : Number 097

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:30:16 +0200 
From: Jean-Michel Becar <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Yokohama - Draft Agenda

Roberto,

Will be good also to have in our agenda an update about the iDNS from
Harald. 
And to see how the DNSO is or not involved in this kind of process.

Regards,
Jean-Michel

- -----Original Message-----
From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 12:56 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [ga] Yokohama - Draft Agenda

Please find below the proposed agenda for the GA meeting in Yokohama.

1. Status reports
1a) DNSO admin (budget, ....)
1b) GA admin (voting rules, votes so far, ...)

2. Feedback
2a) Feedback from Constituencies
2b) Feedback from [active] Working Groups

3. Discussion
3a) Discussion on rules+list management
3b) Discussion on individuals+constituencies
3c) Discussion on introduction of new gTLDs

4. Any other business

People who want additional points on the agenda - please post them now!
Comments welcome.

regards
Roberto
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:43:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

John,

I would like daily access to the zone files for the TLDs you are laing
claim to.

please let me know how to get them. this is the 3rd time I have asked OSRC
folks how to get thier zones. at least NSI provides a method that anyone
can get them.

so, are you open or does the "O" in ORSC stand for obfuscatory.

- -rick

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:

> ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING INTERNET 
> USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON ITS 
> PRESENT COURSE
> 
> CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/
> 
> AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net) today announce 
> that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate users about 
> ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as a result of 
> ICANN's policies.
> 
> ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers - the 
> organization that is attempting to make policy on the future of the internet. 
> ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13 - 17 and may vote 
> on new domain policy at that time.
> 
> John Palmer,  president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet users to watch the 
> developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet and they aren't 
> all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked the process and are 
> influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet users and especially 
> domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the World Intellectual 
> Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants registrars to be burdened 
> with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs in the courts, not 
> on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses with limited resources".
> 
> Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking is their refusal to 
> recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level Domain (TLD) owners. 
> "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of intellectual property, but 
> refuses to recognize the ownership of  TLDs by those who claimed them via the 
> legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with EARTH, USA and Z.", 
> Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name holders however, 
> is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain holders sign away their 
> rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding domain ownership.
>  
> Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept of an organization 
> permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the internet that require 
> oversight is a good one, however this particular process has gone horribly wrong 
> and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is not stopped and fixed".
> 
> The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on several nationally syndicated 
> shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10 days. It will inform 
> users about ICANN and will point them to a website that contains more detailed 
> information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and internet users to 
> point their machines away from the root servers operated by ICANN and to 
> alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control. Instructions for doing 
> this are available at various websites, including that of ADNS.
> 
> Palmer also announced today that ADNS's  root nameserver, ASLAN, a member 
> of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits in June - an 
> increase of over 40% over May. 
> 
> "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are also up to several 
> thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in  registrations in the 
> past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer. "What's more important 
> is that people are switching to other root server networks in large numbers, 
> showing that they do take notice and are concerned about ICANN".
> 
> ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and "Z" and provides internet 
> sites with the ability to register a domain under these top-level domains. ADNS 
> has been providing internet related services since 1993.
> 
> Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting service and domain 
> service for those registering a domain in a specific part of the EARTH, USA or 
> Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public content under that domain name. 
> This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th 
> between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free registration, DNS and web hosting 
> services for one year.
> 
> ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC - http://www.open-rsc.org ), 
> a group of individuals and organizations who are all interested in an open, fair 
> and technically sound global Domain Name System for the internet. ADNS is providing 
> ASLAN free of charge for the use of the internet community. 
> 
> ADNS  also operates the  internet portal site called http://The.EARTH. 
> This site is accessible to any computer that is pointing to the new DNS servers. 
> 
> SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc. 
> 
> CONTACT: John Palmer, [email-masked] /  312-849-2753
> 

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] Another Comment system for new gTLDs

GA:

I've put up a set of pages at http://otd.ar.com for commenting on ICANN's
latest request for comments on the proposed addition of new gTLDs.

I will collect comments through the 24th and deliver all comments 
to ICANN on the 10th as thats ICANNS cutoff date for comments.

Please let me know if you find any utility to the comment system.

you need only comment on the parts of the document you want and 
you are not required to register before using the system.

I hope you find the system useful.

best regards,

- -rick

ps http://otd.ar.com/

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:55:49 -0700
From: "Bret A. Fausett" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] New DNSO Board Member?

What steps are we taking to nominate candidates to replace Mr. Cohen as a
DNSO Board member when his term expires on 30 September?

        -- Bret

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:24:58 -0500
From: Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Hi John:

Well, the only thing I can say to this announcement is that at least encourage
people to be more engaged with ICANN processes regardless of the negative or
possitves comments in such radio announcements.

Best Regards
Vany

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:
> 
> ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING INTERNET 
> USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON ITS 
> PRESENT COURSE
> 
> CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/
> 
> AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net) today announce 
> that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate users about 
> ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as a result of 
> ICANN's policies.
> 
> ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers - the 
> organization that is attempting to make policy on the future of the internet. 
> ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13 - 17 and may vote 
> on new domain policy at that time.
> 
> John Palmer,  president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet users to watch the 
> developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet and they aren't 
> all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked the process and are 
> influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet users and especially 
> domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the World Intellectual 
> Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants registrars to be burdened 
> with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs in the courts, not 
> on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses with limited resources".
> 
> Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking is their refusal to 
> recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level Domain (TLD) owners. 
> "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of intellectual property, but 
> refuses to recognize the ownership of  TLDs by those who claimed them via the 
> legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with EARTH, USA and Z.", 
> Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name holders however, 
> is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain holders sign away their 
> rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding domain ownership.
>  
> Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept of an organization 
> permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the internet that require 
> oversight is a good one, however this particular process has gone horribly wrong 
> and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is not stopped and fixed".
> 
> The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on several nationally syndicated 
> shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10 days. It will inform 
> users about ICANN and will point them to a website that contains more detailed 
> information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and internet users to 
> point their machines away from the root servers operated by ICANN and to 
> alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control. Instructions for doing 
> this are available at various websites, including that of ADNS.
> 
> Palmer also announced today that ADNS's  root nameserver, ASLAN, a member 
> of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits in June - an 
> increase of over 40% over May. 
> 
> "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are also up to several 
> thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in  registrations in the 
> past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer. "What's more important 
> is that people are switching to other root server networks in large numbers, 
> showing that they do take notice and are concerned about ICANN".
> 
> ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and "Z" and provides internet 
> sites with the ability to register a domain under these top-level domains. ADNS 
> has been providing internet related services since 1993.
> 
> Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting service and domain 
> service for those registering a domain in a specific part of the EARTH, USA or 
> Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public content under that domain name. 
> This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th 
> between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free registration, DNS and web hosting 
> services for one year.
> 
> ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC - http://www.open-rsc.org ), 
> a group of individuals and organizations who are all interested in an open, fair 
> and technically sound global Domain Name System for the internet. ADNS is providing 
> ASLAN free of charge for the use of the internet community. 
> 
> ADNS  also operates the  internet portal site called http://The.EARTH. 
> This site is accessible to any computer that is pointing to the new DNS servers. 
> 
> SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc. 
> 
> CONTACT: John Palmer, [email-masked] /  312-849-2753
> 

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Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:45:57 -0400
From: Sandy Harris <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Another Comment system for new gTLDs

Rick H Wesson wrote:
> 
> GA:
> 
> I've put up a set of pages at http://otd.ar.com for commenting on ICANN's
> latest request for comments on the proposed addition of new gTLDs.
> 
> I will collect comments ...

The site has:

	many would like to have been herd on an equal footing.

Typo or commentary?
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:58:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Another Comment system for new gTLDs

Sandy,

I originally developed the site in 1999 and it was designed around voting
and polling, I added the capability for comments in late 1999 and the gTLD
request ICANN put out recently only asked for comments, so thats what I'll
compile.

If you have noticed ICANN's comment site is on-topic only about  10% of
the time.

as for the question you ask below, its a typo. I'm dislexic and even if I
use a spell checker I still can get the words wrong.

best regards,

- -rick

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Sandy Harris wrote:

> Rick H Wesson wrote:
> > 
> > GA:
> > 
> > I've put up a set of pages at http://otd.ar.com for commenting on ICANN's
> > latest request for comments on the proposed addition of new gTLDs.
> > 
> > I will collect comments ...
> 
> The site has:
> 
> 	many would like to have been herd on an equal footing.
> 
> Typo or commentary?
> 

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:29:05 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Hello Rick,

Getting them is so easy for anyone with any basic knowledge of dns.  I
really am surprised that you have not been able to do it yourself and
instead post a message insinuating that ORSC is hiding them from you.

I may disagree with ORSC's current positions, but this type of
mischaracterization is really out of line, especially on a public
list.

Thursday, July 06, 2000, 7:43:08 AM, you wrote:

> John,

> I would like daily access to the zone files for the TLDs you are laing
> claim to.

> please let me know how to get them. this is the 3rd time I have asked OSRC
> folks how to get thier zones. at least NSI provides a method that anyone
> can get them.

> so, are you open or does the "O" in ORSC stand for obfuscatory.

> -rick

> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:

>> ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING INTERNET 
>> USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON ITS 
>> PRESENT COURSE
>> 
>> CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/
>> 
>> AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net) today announce 
>> that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate users about 
>> ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as a result of 
>> ICANN's policies.
>> 
>> ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers - the 
>> organization that is attempting to make policy on the future of the internet. 
>> ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13 - 17 and may vote 
>> on new domain policy at that time.
>> 
>> John Palmer,  president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet users to watch the 
>> developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet and they aren't 
>> all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked the process and are 
>> influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet users and especially 
>> domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the World Intellectual 
>> Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants registrars to be burdened 
>> with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs in the courts, not 
>> on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses with limited resources".
>> 
>> Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking is their refusal to 
>> recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level Domain (TLD) owners. 
>> "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of intellectual property, but 
>> refuses to recognize the ownership of  TLDs by those who claimed them via the 
>> legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with EARTH, USA and Z.", 
>> Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name holders however, 
>> is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain holders sign away their 
>> rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding domain ownership.
>>  
>> Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept of an organization 
>> permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the internet that require 
>> oversight is a good one, however this particular process has gone horribly wrong 
>> and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is not stopped and fixed".
>> 
>> The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on several nationally syndicated 
>> shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10 days. It will inform 
>> users about ICANN and will point them to a website that contains more detailed 
>> information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and internet users to 
>> point their machines away from the root servers operated by ICANN and to 
>> alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control. Instructions for doing 
>> this are available at various websites, including that of ADNS.
>> 
>> Palmer also announced today that ADNS's  root nameserver, ASLAN, a member 
>> of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits in June - an 
>> increase of over 40% over May. 
>> 
>> "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are also up to several 
>> thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in  registrations in the 
>> past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer. "What's more important 
>> is that people are switching to other root server networks in large numbers, 
>> showing that they do take notice and are concerned about ICANN".
>> 
>> ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and "Z" and provides internet 
>> sites with the ability to register a domain under these top-level domains. ADNS 
>> has been providing internet related services since 1993.
>> 
>> Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting service and domain 
>> service for those registering a domain in a specific part of the EARTH, USA or 
>> Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public content under that domain name. 
>> This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th 
>> between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free registration, DNS and web hosting 
>> services for one year.
>> 
>> ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC - http://www.open-rsc.org ), 
>> a group of individuals and organizations who are all interested in an open, fair 
>> and technically sound global Domain Name System for the internet. ADNS is providing 
>> ASLAN free of charge for the use of the internet community. 
>> 
>> ADNS  also operates the  internet portal site called http://The.EARTH. 
>> This site is accessible to any computer that is pointing to the new DNS servers. 
>> 
>> SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc. 
>> 
>> CONTACT: John Palmer, [email-masked] /  312-849-2753
>> 

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:04:17 -0700
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

I've been putting the ORSC zone file on http://files.dnso.net for
quite some time. The most recent update includes JB's .GOD TLD.
To be honest, it is not on auto-refresh yet so it is only the
last copy I have updated.

I might remind you that you are more likely to catch any game
with honey than when using vinegar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]]On
> Behalf Of Marsh, Miles (Gene)
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:44 AM
> To: [email-masked]; John Palmer
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: RE: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about
ICANN
>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Rick,
>
> Inflamatory and inaccurate statements will get you nowhere.
Any one
> of us would be more than happy to assist you in resolving to
> alternative roots.
>
> Gene Marsh
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick H Wesson [mailto:[email-masked]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:43 AM
> > To: John Palmer
> > Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about
ICANN
> >
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I would like daily access to the zone files for the TLDs you
are
> > laing claim to.
> >
> > please let me know how to get them. this is the 3rd time I
> > have asked OSRC
> > folks how to get thier zones. at least NSI provides a method
> > that anyone
> > can get them.
> >
> > so, are you open or does the "O" in ORSC stand for
obfuscatory.
> >
> > -rick
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:
> >
> > > ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING
INTERNET
> > > USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON
ITS
> > > PRESENT COURSE
> > >
> > > CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/
> > >
> > > AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net)
> > today announce
> > > that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate
> > users about
> > > ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as
> > a result of
> > > ICANN's policies.
> > >
> > > ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned
> > Names and Numbers - the
> > > organization that is attempting to make policy on the
> > future of the internet.
> > > ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13
> > - 17 and may vote
> > > on new domain policy at that time.
> > >
> > > John Palmer,  president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet
> > users to watch the
> > > developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet
> > and they aren't
> > > all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked
> > the process and are
> > > influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet
> > users and especially
> > > domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the
> > World Intellectual
> > > Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants
> > registrars to be burdened
> > > with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs
> > in the courts, not
> > > on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses
> > with limited resources".
> > >
> > > Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking
> > is their refusal to
> > > recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level
> > Domain (TLD) owners.
> > > "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of
> > intellectual property, but
> > > refuses to recognize the ownership of  TLDs by those who
> > claimed them via the
> > > legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with
> > EARTH, USA and Z.",
> > > Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name
> > holders however,
> > > is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain
> > holders sign away their
> > > rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding
> > domain ownership.
> > >
> > > Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept
> > of an organization
> > > permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the
> > internet that require
> > > oversight is a good one, however this particular process
> > has gone horribly wrong
> > > and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is
> > not stopped and fixed".
> > >
> > > The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on
> > several nationally syndicated
> > > shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10
> > days. It will inform
> > > users about ICANN and will point them to a website that
> > contains more detailed
> > > information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and
> > internet users to
> > > point their machines away from the root servers operated by
> > ICANN and to
> > > alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control.
> > Instructions for doing
> > > this are available at various websites, including that of
ADNS.
> > >
> > > Palmer also announced today that ADNS's  root nameserver,
> > ASLAN, a member
> > > of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits
> > in June - an
> > > increase of over 40% over May.
> > >
> > > "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are
> > also up to several
> > > thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in
> > registrations in the
> > > past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer.
> > "What's more important
> > > is that people are switching to other root server networks
> > in large numbers,
> > > showing that they do take notice and are concerned about
ICANN".
> > >
> > > ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and
> > "Z" and provides internet
> > > sites with the ability to register a domain under these
> > top-level domains. ADNS
> > > has been providing internet related services since 1993.
> > >
> > > Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting
> > service and domain
> > > service for those registering a domain in a specific part
> > of the EARTH, USA or
> > > Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public
> > content under that domain name.
> > > This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in
> > MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th
> > > between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free
> > registration, DNS and web hosting
> > > services for one year.
> > >
> > > ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC -
> http://www.open-rsc.org ),
> > a group of individuals and organizations who are all
interested in
> > an open, fair  and technically sound global Domain Name
System for
> > the internet. ADNS is providing  ASLAN free of charge for the
use
> > of the internet community.
> >
> > ADNS  also operates the  internet portal site called
> > http://The.EARTH.  This site is accessible to any computer
that is
> > pointing to the new DNS servers.
> >
> > SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc.
> >
> > CONTACT: John Palmer, [email-masked] /  312-849-2753
> >
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:08:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick H Wesson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

William,

I requested the zones and the ORSC folks have denied me access to the
zones. I don't think the 'O' in ORSC stands for open anymore.

You can prove me wrong, post how to get the zone files, an axfr would 
do me just fine if it worked.

All I want is their "root" and the zones they serve, NSI allows me to have 
the gTLD zones and the "ICANN root" is available via anonymous ftp.

If ORSC is open then why are they reluctant to give up these files, after
all I just want to do some growth stats on them. Doesn't ORSC want their
growth verified by an 3rd party?

what are you afraid of?

- -rick

 
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:

> Hello Rick,
> 
> Getting them is so easy for anyone with any basic knowledge of dns.  I
> really am surprised that you have not been able to do it yourself and
> instead post a message insinuating that ORSC is hiding them from you.
> 
> I may disagree with ORSC's current positions, but this type of
> mischaracterization is really out of line, especially on a public
> list.
> 
> Thursday, July 06, 2000, 7:43:08 AM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> > John,
> 
> > I would like daily access to the zone files for the TLDs you are laing
> > claim to.
> 
> > please let me know how to get them. this is the 3rd time I have asked OSRC
> > folks how to get thier zones. at least NSI provides a method that anyone
> > can get them.
> 
> > so, are you open or does the "O" in ORSC stand for obfuscatory.
> 
> > -rick
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote:
> 
> >> ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING INTERNET 
> >> USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON ITS 
> >> PRESENT COURSE
> >> 
> >> CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/
> >> 
> >> AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net) today announce 
> >> that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate users about 
> >> ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as a result of 
> >> ICANN's policies.
> >> 
> >> ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers - the 
> >> organization that is attempting to make policy on the future of the internet. 
> >> ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13 - 17 and may vote 
> >> on new domain policy at that time.
> >> 
> >> John Palmer,  president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet users to watch the 
> >> developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet and they aren't 
> >> all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked the process and are 
> >> influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet users and especially 
> >> domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the World Intellectual 
> >> Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants registrars to be burdened 
> >> with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs in the courts, not 
> >> on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses with limited resources".
> >> 
> >> Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking is their refusal to 
> >> recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level Domain (TLD) owners. 
> >> "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of intellectual property, but 
> >> refuses to recognize the ownership of  TLDs by those who claimed them via the 
> >> legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with EARTH, USA and Z.", 
> >> Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name holders however, 
> >> is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain holders sign away their 
> >> rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding domain ownership.
> >>  
> >> Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept of an organization 
> >> permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the internet that require 
> >> oversight is a good one, however this particular process has gone horribly wrong 
> >> and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is not stopped and fixed".
> >> 
> >> The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on several nationally syndicated 
> >> shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10 days. It will inform 
> >> users about ICANN and will point them to a website that contains more detailed 
> >> information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and internet users to 
> >> point their machines away from the root servers operated by ICANN and to 
> >> alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control. Instructions for doing 
> >> this are available at various websites, including that of ADNS.
> >> 
> >> Palmer also announced today that ADNS's  root nameserver, ASLAN, a member 
> >> of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits in June - an 
> >> increase of over 40% over May. 
> >> 
> >> "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are also up to several 
> >> thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in  registrations in the 
> >> past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer. "What's more important 
> >> is that people are switching to other root server networks in large numbers, 
> >> showing that they do take notice and are concerned about ICANN".
> >> 
> >> ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and "Z" and provides internet 
> >> sites with the ability to register a domain under these top-level domains. ADNS 
> >> has been providing internet related services since 1993.
> >> 
> >> Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting service and domain 
> >> service for those registering a domain in a specific part of the EARTH, USA or 
> >> Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public content under that domain name. 
> >> This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th 
> >> between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free registration, DNS and web hosting 
> >> services for one year.
> >> 
> >> ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC - http://www.open-rsc.org ), 
> >> a group of individuals and organizations who are all interested in an open, fair 
> >> and technically sound global Domain Name System for the internet. ADNS is providing 
> >> ASLAN free of charge for the use of the internet community. 
> >> 
> >> ADNS  also operates the  internet portal site called http://The.EARTH. 
> >> This site is accessible to any computer that is pointing to the new DNS servers. 
> >> 
> >> SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc. 
> >> 
> >> CONTACT: John Palmer, [email-masked] /  312-849-2753
> >> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:13:36 -0700
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re[4]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN

Hello Rick,

This message just shows me how irresponsible you are being in your
criticisms.

First of all, the ORSC does not run TLDs. They run a root zone, which
is available via AXFR.  I know this for a fact.  I did an axfr before
posting this message just to make sure that nothing had changed in the
months since I last did one.

As for the TLDs themselves, you have to make arrangements with the TLD
operators themselves.  That has nothing to do with the ORSC.

It seems to me you have not expended any effort at all before posting
incorrect and irresponsible criticism of the ORSC.  As I said before,
I do not agree with the ORSC's positions, but in this case, you owe
them a clear apology.

Thursday, July 06, 2000, 2:08:35 PM, you wrote:

> William,

> I requested the zones and the ORSC folks have denied me access to the
> zones. I don't think the 'O' in ORSC stands for open anymore.

> You can prove me wrong, post how to get the zone files, an axfr would 
> do me just fine if it worked.

> All I want is their "root" and the zones they serve, NSI allows me to have 
> the gTLD zones and the "ICANN root" is available via anonymous ftp.

> If ORSC is open then why are they reluctant to give up these files, after
> all I just want to do some growth stats on them. Doesn't ORSC want their
> growth verified by an 3rd party?

> what are you afraid of?

> -rick

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