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GA-DIGEST            Thursday, May 4 2000            Volume 01 : Number 064

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Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 13:53:36 +0200
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Yokohama DNSO agenda

At 13:14 02.05.2000 +0200, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

>As today, the GA is scheduled in the morning, and there will be no
>Webcast, due to funding problems.
>
>I am discussing the matter with the NC (see archives at http://
>www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc03/maillist.html, and in particualr
>thread involving message http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc03/
>msg00607.html).
>Do we have any chance to raise funds for allowing a Webcast to be
>available (knowing that if we want to change the status of things we
>must define the details within a week or so)?

If we can videotape the session and make the tape available on the Net at a 
relatively low cost, I don't think a webcast is worth it.

Since we don't have interactive feedback, the webcast for Cairo didn't 
accomplish much for me apart from tying me down to a specific time - and 
some chatting with other people watching it about which feed to use when 
something went wrong.

                      Harald
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Date: Tue,  2 May 2000 14:14:18 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Yokohama DNSO agenda

Harald,

>
>Since we don't have interactive feedback, the webcast for Cairo didn't 

>accomplish much for me apart from tying me down to a specific time - 
and 
>some chatting with other people watching it about which feed to use 
when 
>something went wrong.

There is also the possibility of submitting comments, that can be read 
at the GA.

Regards
Roberto
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:11:06 -0500
From: Andy Gardner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Yokohama DNSO agenda

>About the announce of the Yokohama meetings:
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>    * Friday, 14 July 2000
>>
>>      All meetings in Yokohama Pacifico
>>
>>         o Domain Name Supporting Organization
>>              + Names Council
>>              + General Assembly
>>              + Constituency groups
>>              + Working Groups
>>         o Governmental Advisory Committee
>>    
>
>
>As today, the GA is scheduled in the morning, and there will be no
>Webcast, due to funding problems.

Funding problems? Are they serious?

They're slowing closing these meeting up so that only the IP Lawyers 
with the big budgets will be there, and then you can be sure they'll 
be saying they've reached consensus at the meeeting!

Please, lets have the books opened up for ICANN for the Santiago and 
Cairo meetings. How much did the webcast and IRC channel for Santiago 
cost????

How much did venue hire cost?

Since ICANN is supposed to be bottom up (ha ha), may I suggest that 
they move the whole road show to a 4 star hotel in Yokohama and use 
the money saved to fund the webcast???

Would cancelling the champagne event save enough money?

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Date: Tue,  2 May 2000 19:45:27 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Yokohama DNSO agenda

Andy Gardner wrote:
>
>Funding problems? Are they serious?
>

In the DNSO budget approved by the NC there's no provision for 
Webcasting.
Moreover, it has been explicitely eliminated, for the purpose of 
reducing costs.

>They're slowing closing these meeting up so that only the IP Lawyers 
>with the big budgets will be there, and then you can be sure they'll 
>be saying they've reached consensus at the meeeting!
>
>Please, lets have the books opened up for ICANN for the Santiago and 
>Cairo meetings. How much did the webcast and IRC channel for Santiago 
>cost????
>

The figures I have, as an estimate for Yokohama, go from a bare minimum 
of $7000 up.
The problem is not only the channel, but the staff, the setup, the 
rental of the equipment, ...

>How much did venue hire cost?
>
>Since ICANN is supposed to be bottom up (ha ha), may I suggest that 
>they move the whole road show to a 4 star hotel in Yokohama and use 
>the money saved to fund the webcast???
>
>Would cancelling the champagne event save enough money?
>

No, that will not solve the problem.
There is a huge difference between ICANN's budget, and the DNSO budget.

There are Constituencies (like the NonCom) who have difficulties even in
 meeting before the GA, because of financial restrictions.

I am trying my best to have the Webcast provided, but the funding is a 
key issue.

Regards
Roberto
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 04:08:30 +0800
From: James Seng <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Yokohama DNSO agenda

Would it be outrage to suggest sticking to only an IRC session, with a good
scribe who will do real-time reporting (well, as fast as he can type) and
another person to post response from the IRC channel. IRC screen can be
projected for "open-ness".

You probably need another one channel ops, or if a dedicated IRC network
setup, an IRCop, to control noise and trouble makers.

(Actually, a web chat would probably do as much...)

- -James Seng

Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> 
> Andy Gardner wrote:
> >
> >Funding problems? Are they serious?
> >
> 
> In the DNSO budget approved by the NC there's no provision for
> Webcasting.
> Moreover, it has been explicitely eliminated, for the purpose of
> reducing costs.
> 
> >They're slowing closing these meeting up so that only the IP Lawyers
> >with the big budgets will be there, and then you can be sure they'll
> >be saying they've reached consensus at the meeeting!
> >
> >Please, lets have the books opened up for ICANN for the Santiago and
> >Cairo meetings. How much did the webcast and IRC channel for Santiago
> >cost????
> >
> 
> The figures I have, as an estimate for Yokohama, go from a bare minimum
> of $7000 up.
> The problem is not only the channel, but the staff, the setup, the
> rental of the equipment, ...
> 
> >How much did venue hire cost?
> >
> >Since ICANN is supposed to be bottom up (ha ha), may I suggest that
> >they move the whole road show to a 4 star hotel in Yokohama and use
> >the money saved to fund the webcast???
> >
> >Would cancelling the champagne event save enough money?
> >
> 
> No, that will not solve the problem.
> There is a huge difference between ICANN's budget, and the DNSO budget.
> 
> There are Constituencies (like the NonCom) who have difficulties even in
>  meeting before the GA, because of financial restrictions.
> 
> I am trying my best to have the Webcast provided, but the funding is a
> key issue.
> 
> Regards
> Roberto
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:17:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [ga] 2 ga-full issues

Suppose someone wishes to subscribe to ga-full.   Where do the
instrcutions appear on the DNSO web site?

Not, it seems, on http://www.dnso.org/listsdnso.html which I think gives
instructions for every other list.  Could this be fixed please?

I was minded to ask because I don't seem to have received any list traffic
in several days. But the ga-full list says I'm subscribed when I try to
resubscribe.  So I think something is wrong with ga-full (but not, it
seems with ga?).

(There's always the possiblity I've made some mistake with my procmail
filers, of course, in which case the list may be fine.  But trawling the 
ga-full archive reveals no j*ff w*lliams which suggests Something Is
Going On.) 

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