Subject: GA-DIGEST V1 #44
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GA-DIGEST            Sunday, April 2 2000            Volume 01 : Number 044

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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:47:15 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] About GA membership again......

Roeland and all assembly members,

  Well stated Roeland.  It should be realized again that ICANN
through it's Board has specifically stated that they do not want
or like individual representation.  This to me indicates clearly that
ICANN will do anything it can to thwart such representation.

Roeland M. J. Meyer wrote:

> > From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Alf
> > Hansen
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 6:30 AM
>
> > I represent a ccTLD and I am a part of the ccTLD
> > Constituency. Can somebody
> > please explain why individuals (not connected to any
> > organization in a DNSO
> > constituency) should be represented with voting rights in DNSO GA?
> >
> > (I may step into a can-of-worms her, but I just want to hear
> > the arguments,
> > and perhaps be convinced to change my mind....)
>
> This is April Fool's day and you are joking ... right?
>
> read carefully -->
>
> DNSO is about domain names
> domain owners have a vested interest in domain names
> Indviduals can own domain names
> therefore individuals have a vested interest in domain names.
>
> here's yet another one for you (a bit more complex, but I think you can
> handle it)-->
>
> representation includes recognition/voting power, in any organization
> ICANN/DNSO constituencies are the ONLY method of representation within
> ICANN/DNSO
> the DNSO/GA has no voting power, therefore it is not a constituency
> there are no constituencies, that include individuals
> therefore individuals have no representation
>
> <opinion>
> I have simplified a few steps, please let me know where I have lost you. The
> value-judgement that I apply to this is, that it is substantively and
> fundimentally wrong!
> It is right on up there with "taxation without representation".
> </opinion>
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:45:06 -0800 (PST)
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

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Excuse me, but this type of email is really not appropriate for sending to the
GA list. 

On 01-Apr-2000 John Palmer wrote:
> FW: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%AGN Domain Name
> Service Newsletter 
> http://www.adns.net 
> April 1, 2000 
> 
> 1. Visibility of ORSC Top-Level domains jumps 54% in March 
> 2. Banner Advertising Campaign Launches April 1. 
> 3. And the April 2000 FreeBee Special Is.... 
> 4. Support aDNS Education: Please Visit and Shop at Our Sponsor's Websites 
> 5. The.Earth - The Improvements Keep Coming 
> 
> <<**>> 
> VISIBILITY OF ORSC TOP-LEVEL DOMAINS JUMPS 54% IN MARCH 
> 
> The results are in and they show that the number of hits on ADNS's 
> root server / resolver ASLAN.OPEN-RSC.ORG jumped in March to 530,634 hits 
> compared to 353,000 in February. This is an increase of over 54%. 
> 
> Whats more amazing is that the number of unique computers using our root 
> server jumped by 288%. This means that our advertising campaign is working. 
> 
> Haven't registered that EARTH/USA or Z domain yet? Better get it before 
> someone else does. 
> 
> <<**>> 
> BANNER ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN LAUNCHES APRIL 1 
> 
> ADNS is launching a significant banner advertising campaign on INTERNET.COM 
> INTERNET.COM runs a number of developer-oriented websites such as 
> WEBDEVELOPER.COM. These sites are geared to webmasters and site managers - 
> just the kind of folks who would be interested in new domains. 
> 
> Check out INTERNET.COM for a lot of interesting information on web
> development 
> technology. 
> 
> <<**>> 
> AND THE APRIL FREEBEE SPECIAL IS... 
> 
> This month's Freebee Special is 
>         ENGLAND.EARTH 
> And the date is: 
>         Wednesday April 5, 2000 between 6AM and 7AM Eastern Time 
> 
> What is this Freebee Special? Each month, ADNS offers free domain
> registration 
> free DNS service and free webhosting for one year to all people registering 
> a domain in a particular subsection of one of our top-level domains, provided
> that they agree to develop public content for that domain and to promote 
> alternative DNS. 
> 
> The free offer is only valid for a particular time period and the registrant 
> must develope and maintain public content on their site for the entire year. 
> There are other rules. See the Freebee Special link on the ADNS site. 
> 
> <<**>> 
> SUPPORT ALTERNATIVE DNS EDUCATION: VISIT AND SHOP AT OUR SPONSOR'S WEBSITES 
> 
> You may have noticed some banner ads appearing on the ADNS website as well 
> as THE.EARTH. Every time you click on one of these ads and visit these 
> merchants, and every time you buy something from them, a percentage of the 
> sale goes to Alternative DNS Education. ADNS will use all of these proceeds 
> to purchase advertising to enlighten both web surfers. 
> 
> The more you visit and shop, the more people will become educated about 
> alternative DNS and the more hits your alternative DNS website will get. 
> 
> <<**>> 
> THE.EARTH - THE IMPROVEMENTS KEEP COMING 
> 
> ADNS operates the first Alternative DNS web portal in the world. Located 
> at http://The.EARTH, this site is only accessible if your machine can see 
> the entire web via alternative root servers. 
> 
> Last month, we separated the content into individual pages: US News, World 
> News, Science and Technology, Lifestyle, Health, Sports and Environment. 
> 
> This month, we are going to continue adding dynamic content and links to 
> hundreds of sites around the world. We will also work on improving the site 
> layout to increase usability. 
> 
> The.EARTH will soon host a special page with nothing but links to alternative
> DNS websites. If you would like a link to your site placed on THE.EARTH, 
> send e-mail to [email-masked] with the details. 
> 
> 
> 
> <<<<<<<>>>>>>> 
> This is the earthusaz mailing list operated by AGN Domain Name 
> Service Inc. (http://www.adns.net). To be removed from the list, 
> send e-mail to [email-masked]. To post to the list, send e-mail 
> to [email-masked] 
> <<<<<<<>>>>>> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:50:46 -0600
From: "John Palmer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

Why? Because we are successful and are interested  in thwarting their little
socialist game?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: William X. Walsh <[email-masked]>
To: John Palmer <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

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>
>
>
> Excuse me, but this type of email is really not appropriate for sending to
the
> GA list.
>
> On 01-Apr-2000 John Palmer wrote:
> > FW: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%AGN Domain Name
> > Service Newsletter
> > http://www.adns.net
> > April 1, 2000
> >
> > 1. Visibility of ORSC Top-Level domains jumps 54% in March
> > 2. Banner Advertising Campaign Launches April 1.
> > 3. And the April 2000 FreeBee Special Is....
> > 4. Support aDNS Education: Please Visit and Shop at Our Sponsor's
Websites
> > 5. The.Earth - The Improvements Keep Coming
> >
> > <<**>>
> > VISIBILITY OF ORSC TOP-LEVEL DOMAINS JUMPS 54% IN MARCH
> >
> > The results are in and they show that the number of hits on ADNS's
> > root server / resolver ASLAN.OPEN-RSC.ORG jumped in March to 530,634
hits
> > compared to 353,000 in February. This is an increase of over 54%.
> >
> > Whats more amazing is that the number of unique computers using our root
> > server jumped by 288%. This means that our advertising campaign is
working.
> >
> > Haven't registered that EARTH/USA or Z domain yet? Better get it before
> > someone else does.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > BANNER ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN LAUNCHES APRIL 1
> >
> > ADNS is launching a significant banner advertising campaign on
INTERNET.COM
> > INTERNET.COM runs a number of developer-oriented websites such as
> > WEBDEVELOPER.COM. These sites are geared to webmasters and site
managers -
> > just the kind of folks who would be interested in new domains.
> >
> > Check out INTERNET.COM for a lot of interesting information on web
> > development
> > technology.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > AND THE APRIL FREEBEE SPECIAL IS...
> >
> > This month's Freebee Special is
> >         ENGLAND.EARTH
> > And the date is:
> >         Wednesday April 5, 2000 between 6AM and 7AM Eastern Time
> >
> > What is this Freebee Special? Each month, ADNS offers free domain
> > registration
> > free DNS service and free webhosting for one year to all people
registering
> > a domain in a particular subsection of one of our top-level domains,
provided
> > that they agree to develop public content for that domain and to promote
> > alternative DNS.
> >
> > The free offer is only valid for a particular time period and the
registrant
> > must develope and maintain public content on their site for the entire
year.
> > There are other rules. See the Freebee Special link on the ADNS site.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > SUPPORT ALTERNATIVE DNS EDUCATION: VISIT AND SHOP AT OUR SPONSOR'S
WEBSITES
> >
> > You may have noticed some banner ads appearing on the ADNS website as
well
> > as THE.EARTH. Every time you click on one of these ads and visit these
> > merchants, and every time you buy something from them, a percentage of
the
> > sale goes to Alternative DNS Education. ADNS will use all of these
proceeds
> > to purchase advertising to enlighten both web surfers.
> >
> > The more you visit and shop, the more people will become educated about
> > alternative DNS and the more hits your alternative DNS website will get.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > THE.EARTH - THE IMPROVEMENTS KEEP COMING
> >
> > ADNS operates the first Alternative DNS web portal in the world. Located
> > at http://The.EARTH, this site is only accessible if your machine can
see
> > the entire web via alternative root servers.
> >
> > Last month, we separated the content into individual pages: US News,
World
> > News, Science and Technology, Lifestyle, Health, Sports and Environment.
> >
> > This month, we are going to continue adding dynamic content and links to
> > hundreds of sites around the world. We will also work on improving the
site
> > layout to increase usability.
> >
> > The.EARTH will soon host a special page with nothing but links to
alternative
> > DNS websites. If you would like a link to your site placed on THE.EARTH,
> > send e-mail to [email-masked] with the details.
> >
> >
> >
> > <<<<<<<>>>>>>>
> > This is the earthusaz mailing list operated by AGN Domain Name
> > Service Inc. (http://www.adns.net). To be removed from the list,
> > send e-mail to [email-masked]. To post to the list, send e-mail
> > to [email-masked]
> > <<<<<<<>>>>>>
> >
>
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Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 07:02:39 +0800
From: Dave Crocker <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Older Registrations

At 10:41 AM 4/1/00 -0800, Christopher Ambler wrote:
>Strawn's participation on the IAHC was specifically disclaimed by
>the NSF as being Strawn's personal participation and having no
>bearing on the NSF in any way.

Please provide the precise citation to this disclaimer.

d/

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Date: Sun,  2 Apr 2000 01:29:58 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

William wrote:
>
>Excuse me, but this type of email is really not appropriate for sending
 to the
>GA list. 
>
>On 01-Apr-2000 John Palmer wrote:
>> FW: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%AGN Domain 
Name
>> Service Newsletter 

Agree, IMHO it would even qualify as spam.
But OTOH it is useful to see in the appropriate light the other postings
 of the same source.

Regards
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:45:04 +0930
From: Harald Alvestrand <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] [Admin] Posting limits

At 11:31 31.03.00 -0800, Christopher Ambler wrote:
>Who set a posting limit? I don't recall seeing a limit. When did we vote on
>it?

The list rules adopted earlier gave the chair the power to request a posting
limit. Some time ago, Roberto asked for a posting limit of 5.

We can't vote, since we don't have a defined membership yet.

                            Harald

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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:49:35 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

William, John and all assembly members,

  I personally want to thank John Palmer for keeping the DNSO GA
membership updated on related DNS issues as is appropriate for
this list, contrary to WXW's questionable assertions to the contrary.

  All DNS related issues especially operational issues are of
importance to the DNSO GA as is indicated in the White Paper.

  If I may be so bold to suggest that you might also want to
make the NTIA/DOC thru Becky Burr also directly aware
as well.

  Thank you again John...  >;)

William X. Walsh wrote:

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> Excuse me, but this type of email is really not appropriate for sending to the
> GA list.
>
> On 01-Apr-2000 John Palmer wrote:
> > FW: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%AGN Domain Name
> > Service Newsletter
> > http://www.adns.net
> > April 1, 2000
> >
> > 1. Visibility of ORSC Top-Level domains jumps 54% in March
> > 2. Banner Advertising Campaign Launches April 1.
> > 3. And the April 2000 FreeBee Special Is....
> > 4. Support aDNS Education: Please Visit and Shop at Our Sponsor's Websites
> > 5. The.Earth - The Improvements Keep Coming
> >
> > <<**>>
> > VISIBILITY OF ORSC TOP-LEVEL DOMAINS JUMPS 54% IN MARCH
> >
> > The results are in and they show that the number of hits on ADNS's
> > root server / resolver ASLAN.OPEN-RSC.ORG jumped in March to 530,634 hits
> > compared to 353,000 in February. This is an increase of over 54%.
> >
> > Whats more amazing is that the number of unique computers using our root
> > server jumped by 288%. This means that our advertising campaign is working.
> >
> > Haven't registered that EARTH/USA or Z domain yet? Better get it before
> > someone else does.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > BANNER ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN LAUNCHES APRIL 1
> >
> > ADNS is launching a significant banner advertising campaign on INTERNET.COM
> > INTERNET.COM runs a number of developer-oriented websites such as
> > WEBDEVELOPER.COM. These sites are geared to webmasters and site managers -
> > just the kind of folks who would be interested in new domains.
> >
> > Check out INTERNET.COM for a lot of interesting information on web
> > development
> > technology.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > AND THE APRIL FREEBEE SPECIAL IS...
> >
> > This month's Freebee Special is
> >         ENGLAND.EARTH
> > And the date is:
> >         Wednesday April 5, 2000 between 6AM and 7AM Eastern Time
> >
> > What is this Freebee Special? Each month, ADNS offers free domain
> > registration
> > free DNS service and free webhosting for one year to all people registering
> > a domain in a particular subsection of one of our top-level domains, provided
> > that they agree to develop public content for that domain and to promote
> > alternative DNS.
> >
> > The free offer is only valid for a particular time period and the registrant
> > must develope and maintain public content on their site for the entire year.
> > There are other rules. See the Freebee Special link on the ADNS site.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > SUPPORT ALTERNATIVE DNS EDUCATION: VISIT AND SHOP AT OUR SPONSOR'S WEBSITES
> >
> > You may have noticed some banner ads appearing on the ADNS website as well
> > as THE.EARTH. Every time you click on one of these ads and visit these
> > merchants, and every time you buy something from them, a percentage of the
> > sale goes to Alternative DNS Education. ADNS will use all of these proceeds
> > to purchase advertising to enlighten both web surfers.
> >
> > The more you visit and shop, the more people will become educated about
> > alternative DNS and the more hits your alternative DNS website will get.
> >
> > <<**>>
> > THE.EARTH - THE IMPROVEMENTS KEEP COMING
> >
> > ADNS operates the first Alternative DNS web portal in the world. Located
> > at http://The.EARTH, this site is only accessible if your machine can see
> > the entire web via alternative root servers.
> >
> > Last month, we separated the content into individual pages: US News, World
> > News, Science and Technology, Lifestyle, Health, Sports and Environment.
> >
> > This month, we are going to continue adding dynamic content and links to
> > hundreds of sites around the world. We will also work on improving the site
> > layout to increase usability.
> >
> > The.EARTH will soon host a special page with nothing but links to alternative
> > DNS websites. If you would like a link to your site placed on THE.EARTH,
> > send e-mail to [email-masked] with the details.
> >
> >
> >
> > <<<<<<<>>>>>>>
> > This is the earthusaz mailing list operated by AGN Domain Name
> > Service Inc. (http://www.adns.net). To be removed from the list,
> > send e-mail to [email-masked]. To post to the list, send e-mail
> > to [email-masked]
> > <<<<<<<>>>>>>
> >
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:52:30 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

John and all assembly members,

  I think WXW is just doing a little indirect brown nosing John.  Many
of us have taken notice of this over the past few months, and have
learned to basically ignore or correct WXW where appropriate
so as other members aren't taken in by the WXW rantings that
occasionally occur.

John Palmer wrote:

> Why? Because we are successful and are interested  in thwarting their little
> socialist game?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William X. Walsh <[email-masked]>
> To: John Palmer <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 4:45 PM
> Subject: RE: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> >
> >
> > Excuse me, but this type of email is really not appropriate for sending to
> the
> > GA list.
> >
> > On 01-Apr-2000 John Palmer wrote:
> > > FW: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%AGN Domain Name
> > > Service Newsletter
> > > http://www.adns.net
> > > April 1, 2000
> > >
> > > 1. Visibility of ORSC Top-Level domains jumps 54% in March
> > > 2. Banner Advertising Campaign Launches April 1.
> > > 3. And the April 2000 FreeBee Special Is....
> > > 4. Support aDNS Education: Please Visit and Shop at Our Sponsor's
> Websites
> > > 5. The.Earth - The Improvements Keep Coming
> > >
> > > <<**>>
> > > VISIBILITY OF ORSC TOP-LEVEL DOMAINS JUMPS 54% IN MARCH
> > >
> > > The results are in and they show that the number of hits on ADNS's
> > > root server / resolver ASLAN.OPEN-RSC.ORG jumped in March to 530,634
> hits
> > > compared to 353,000 in February. This is an increase of over 54%.
> > >
> > > Whats more amazing is that the number of unique computers using our root
> > > server jumped by 288%. This means that our advertising campaign is
> working.
> > >
> > > Haven't registered that EARTH/USA or Z domain yet? Better get it before
> > > someone else does.
> > >
> > > <<**>>
> > > BANNER ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN LAUNCHES APRIL 1
> > >
> > > ADNS is launching a significant banner advertising campaign on
> INTERNET.COM
> > > INTERNET.COM runs a number of developer-oriented websites such as
> > > WEBDEVELOPER.COM. These sites are geared to webmasters and site
> managers -
> > > just the kind of folks who would be interested in new domains.
> > >
> > > Check out INTERNET.COM for a lot of interesting information on web
> > > development
> > > technology.
> > >
> > > <<**>>
> > > AND THE APRIL FREEBEE SPECIAL IS...
> > >
> > > This month's Freebee Special is
> > >         ENGLAND.EARTH
> > > And the date is:
> > >         Wednesday April 5, 2000 between 6AM and 7AM Eastern Time
> > >
> > > What is this Freebee Special? Each month, ADNS offers free domain
> > > registration
> > > free DNS service and free webhosting for one year to all people
> registering
> > > a domain in a particular subsection of one of our top-level domains,
> provided
> > > that they agree to develop public content for that domain and to promote
> > > alternative DNS.
> > >
> > > The free offer is only valid for a particular time period and the
> registrant
> > > must develope and maintain public content on their site for the entire
> year.
> > > There are other rules. See the Freebee Special link on the ADNS site.
> > >
> > > <<**>>
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Date: Sun,  2 Apr 2000 02:05:45 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] About GA membership again......

Simon Higgs wrote:
>
>
>I'd also like to propose that the pre-IAHC work with IANA be recognized
, 
>and that an iTLD constituency be created. Constituents can from known 
>contributors to the Jon Postel new TLD/registry drafts, or other new 
>TLD/registry Internet Drafts published during 1996, or are named on the
 
>iTLD applicant list that Jon Postel published on behalf of IANA to 
>iahc-discuss. The purpose of the iTLD Constituency is to create new 
>registries that will compete at the registry-level with NSI (currently 
no 
>competition exists for gTLDs or rTLDs at the registry-level).
>

What I do not understand is it is possible to dig into pre-history of DN
 policy and, at the same time, forget about the most recent events.
I know I will sound like Amadeu, quoting his grand-mother, but this 
seems to me like my uncle, remembering everything (so he claims) about 
the war, but not remembering what he did yesterday.

About one and a half year ago, when the DNSO was in its founding process
, the discussion about the constituencies took place.
One of the proposals was to give more "power" to the Registries, and at 
the end, with mich difficulty, a compromise has been found that was 
separating the ccTLDs from the gTLDs (operation much opposed by the 
large majority of the non-Registries, but accepted as a possible 
compromise for the common good).
The creation of new Constituencies that still are in the "domain" of the
 Registries is just an impossible operation.

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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:55:52 -0800
From: Jeff Williams <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

Roberto and all assembly members,

  Ah, please define for us what a legal definition of spam is
Roberto.  If not, than it would seem appropriate that making
such questionable assertions to yourself or comment on them
in a more private manner and not to the list.

  Thank you fro your cooperation in advance....

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> William wrote:
> >
> >Excuse me, but this type of email is really not appropriate for sending
>  to the
> >GA list.
> >
> >On 01-Apr-2000 John Palmer wrote:
> >> FW: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 54%AGN Domain
> Name
> >> Service Newsletter
>
> Agree, IMHO it would even qualify as spam.
> But OTOH it is useful to see in the appropriate light the other postings
>  of the same source.
>
> Regards
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:41:50 -0800 (PST)
From: "William X. Walsh" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [ga] Fw: ADNS NEWSLETTER: ASLAN SERVER VISIBILITY JUMPS BY 5

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On 02-Apr-2000 Jeff Williams wrote:
> Roberto and all assembly members,
> 
>   Ah, please define for us what a legal definition of spam is
> Roberto.  If not, than it would seem appropriate that making
> such questionable assertions to yourself or comment on them
> in a more private manner and not to the list.

Please point out where a legal definition of spam is a prerequisite to not
permitting it on a forum such as this.

And as you said:
Thank you fro(sic) your cooperation in advance....

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Date: Sun,  2 Apr 2000 02:48:29 +0200 (MET DST)
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [ga] About GA membership again......

Alf Hansen wrote:
>
>Yes, I am also an AT-large memeber, just in case. I am a DNSO member 
because
>I represent a ccTLD and I am a part of the ccTLD Constituency. Can 
somebody
>please explain why individuals (not connected to any organization in a 
DNSO
>constituency) should be represented with voting rights in DNSO GA?
>
>(I may step into a can-of-worms her, but I just want to hear the 
arguments,
>and perhaps be convinced to change my mind....)
>

It sure is a can-of-worms, but we should address the problem, anyhow.

I do not mean to try to convince you, but I will just bring my own case.

I am an ICANN At-Large member, like you, and particularly interested in 
DN issues (I am also interested in protocols, but that's another issue).

I do not belong to any constituency, for the simple reason that my 
(daylight) job is with a company that does not have, at this point in 
time, a direct interest in my participation in this process.
Therefore, I am participating as an individual (i.e. on my own time and 
expenses) in said (I was about to mispell "said" in "sad") process.

Is there a Constituency for Internet Users that want to have a say in 
the process? No, up to now. The only possibility is the GA.
Why not the At-Large? Because it is simply unknown, for the time being, 
what the @Large will be.
And even if, why should my specific interest as a DNS user be diluted in
 a more general group like the @Large? Why should I have a forum to 
discuss my opinions about protocols in the IETF, but not have a forum to
 discuss my opinions about the DNS? Would you abolish the IETF and 
suggest that everybody be just "At Large ICANN Member"? Of course not 
(and I will concede that the example is not completely fit, but you 
should concede that there are some similarities).

As a bottom line, I think that the individual that does not have a 
"professional" involvment, in the sense that he/she does not have a firm
 that sponsors his/her trips and activities in the Internet, still has 
something to contribute to this process, and that it will be a gross 
mistake not to listen to him/her and to take his/her POV into account if
 we want to build a really global model.

The GA, as it looks now, is the only forum in which the lay[wo]men can 
get together and talk about their hobby, and their needs as users.

Incidentally, in my programme before elections, this is what I put in 
light, and this is what I still maintain is my first priority.

Regards
Roberto
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