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RE: [registrars] I thought this was looked down on?
But he 
was wrong.  The whois output DOES list the true nameservers.  
They were very
creative with the domain names they registered for 
the nameservers.  Check it out.
Instead of assuming someone is doing bad without any 
proof, look in the registry, or do
an 
nslookup and whois, for:
 
    
NS1.TO-BUY-THIS-DOMAIN-FAX-305-463-9709.COM
    
NS3.THIS-DOMAIN-IS-FOR-SALE.COM
    
NS2.EMAILUS-DOMAINSALESATDOMAINCOLLECTION.COM
They 
are very active nameservers and domains.  This is a total 
non-issue.
 
-Bryan
 
  
  I 
  don't think that the issue is about the rights of people to advertise or 
  register names for the purpose of resale.  Rather the issue is about 
  correctly filling in the fields required for the administration of the 
  dns.  IMHO js is right when he says - > I would think this is a clear 
  violation of the agreements because this
> WHOIS output does not list 
  the true nameservers.  
   
   
  erica
   -----Original 
  Message-----
From: owner-registrars@dnso.org 
  [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Jeff 
  Field
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 3:02 AM
To: 
  jelliott@tucows.com; Bryan Evans; Jeff Shrewsbury Info Avenue; Len; 
  registrars@dnso.org
Subject: RE: [registrars] I thought this was 
  looked down on?
  Assuming you don't register a 
    name that infringes on someone else's right to the name (trademark issues 
    and all that..."cybersquatting"), people are allowed to register names that 
    they think are worth something to somebody else.  They have a right to 
    advertise the fact that the name is for sale (check out any auction site or 
    domain broker site, you will find tens of thousands of names for 
    sale).  Using the nameservers associated with the domain name to 
    advertise the name as being available for purchase is just another means, 
    albeit creative, for selling the name.  IMHO, any organized discussion 
    about this would be a complete waste of time.
Jeff
At 11:37 AM 
    5/30/00 -0700, Josh Elliott wrote:
    I would 
      tend to think this facilitates and promotes cybersquatting.  
      No?
      -----Original 
        Message-----
From: Jeff Field [mailto:jfield@namesecure.com]
Sent: 
        Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:24 AM
To: jelliott@tucows.com; Bryan 
        Evans; Jeff Shrewsbury Info Avenue; Len; 
        registrars@dnso.org
Subject: RE: [registrars] I thought this 
        was looked down on?
Why?
Jeff
At 10:22 AM 
        5/30/00 , Josh Elliott wrote:
        Creative, but probably something we need 
          to address in the COC.
Josh
> -----Original 
          Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> 
          Behalf Of Bryan Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:12 
          AM
> To: Jeff Shrewsbury Info Avenue; Len; 
          registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [registrars] I thought this 
          was looked down on?
>
>
> Actually, this is 
          technically OK, because those nameservers do
> exist and they 
          really are the servers for that domain.  It may
> not be 
          what some of us think is in the best interests of the
> DNS 
          community, but it is compliant with the rules.  Got to 
          hand
> it to them, it's creative.
>
> 
          -Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
          owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> 
          Behalf Of Jeff Shrewsbury Info Avenue
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 
          2000 7:27 AM
> To: Len; registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: 
          [registrars] I thought this was looked down 
          on?
>
>
> Len:
>
> I would think this is 
          a clear violation of the agreements because this
> WHOIS output 
          does not list the true nameservers. Agree?
>
> What are 
          the sanctions for such a violation? Or will we have to wait 
          until
> the compliance liasion gets further along to find 
          out?
>
> js
>
>
> At 03:18 PM 5/28/00 
          -0600, Len wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> 
          >     This is a nice 
          practice!
> >
> >
> >   Domain 
          Name: W7X.COM
> >   Registrar: ALABANZA, 
          INC.
> >   Whois Server: 
          whois.bulkregister.com
> >   Referral URL: www.bulkregister.com
> >   
          Name Server: NS1.TO-BUY-THIS-DOMAIN-FAX-305-463-9709.COM
> 
          >   Name Server: NS3.THIS-DOMAIN-IS-FOR-SALE.COM
> 
          >   Name Server: 
          NS2.EMAILUS-DOMAINSALESATDOMAINCOLLECTION.COM
> >   
          Updated Date: 27-apr-2000
> >
> >
> 
          >len
> >
> >
>
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