RE: [nc-whois] Revised Draft on Bulk Access

[Steve Metalitz <metalitz@iipa.com>]

Karen, I have not had a chance to go through the entire document, but I
don't think that 3.3.6.5 refers to marketing uses at all.  I think it aims
at the kinds of services that Thomson & Thomson and others provide.  I refer
you to the T&T submission (which I posted to the list earlier this week) for
a more complete description.  These research services (or at least some of
them) depend upon bulk access but enrich the Whois data with other data and
do not allow a substantial portion of the bulk data to be extracted by
customers of the research service.  I am not sure that anyone on the task
force opposes these services (although those who believe bulk access ought
to be abolished presumably think these services should use other methods to
obtain the data to which they add value).   So I believe that the changes to
this paragraph should be limited to changing "may" to "shall," as it has
read since well before Shanghai.  The new change you propose today would
make it impossible for research services to use bulk data since entries from
the bulk data are, in fact, redistributed as part of the value-added
research service.   I am pretty sure that is not what your change intended.


Steve Metlaitz

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Elizaga [mailto:karen@elizaga.name]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:11 AM
To: nc-whois@dnso.org
Cc: Francis Coleman
Subject: [nc-whois] Revised Draft on Bulk Access


Fellow TF Members,

Attached please find a revised draft relating to bulk access and marketing -
the result of our conversation yesterday afternoon.  Again, in the interest
of time, I have not vetted this draft by WG4 and instead present it to the
TF for collective comments.

I have tried to incorporate the comments as I understood them yesterday.  To
the extent that any of you disagrees, please let me know.  Also, there are
two open points:

1.	Regarding 3.3.6.3, I have presented an "including but not limited
to" list of marketing media.  Please add any items that you think are
relevant to this list.

2.	In reading through 3.3.6.5, it occurred to me that this provision
relates, without stating outright, to the marketing of value-added
products/services.  Because we have agreed, and there seems to be consensus
in the community, on the concept that marketing should not be a "legitimate"
use of bulk access WHOIS, the concept of value-added products/services
seemed incongruous.  I have made changes accordingly, but again, since we
did not specifically discuss this yesterday, I welcome your comments.

Regards.
KE

 <<WG 4 Revised 201102 PM.doc>> 

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