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Re: [ga-roots] Re: ICANN Policy -- revised version
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12215.html
Leaving the "roots" out of it, what about the TLD Clusters ?
ISPs point directly to the "Best-of-Breed". Note, in the lists
below, the ISOC/ICANN group seems to have the most
problem getting anything deployed. Instead, the focus is on
pre-registrations, lotteries, raffles, etc. Does that speed up the
process of adding TLDs ?
Also, keep in mind that each of the TLDs below has a growing
SLD.TLD community. They will collectively not want to see their
TLD disappear, unless they, themselves, disappear. It seems
unlikely, the "Best-of-Breed" TLDs will disappear. Again, looking
at the lists below, has the ISOC/ICANN selection been the
TLDs with the longest track-record and the most stability ?
Clearly, the answer is no, some still do not exist.
When will people focus on getting nameservers working ?
Jim Fleming
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http://www.icann.org/tlds/ads1/NameSpace-gtld-appBP.html
(* first 20 TLDs)
.SHOP <<<<<
.SPACE
.SEX
.ART
.ZONE
.MUSIC
.ONLINE
.CONSULTING
.DESIGN
.TRAVEL <<<<<
.MEDIA
.NEWS
.DIRECT
.MAIL
.WORLD
.MAG
.AUCTION
.FREE <<<<<
.CAM
.SERVICE
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http://www.New.Net
.SHOP <<<<<
.MP3
.INC
.KIDS
.SPORT
.FAMILY
.CHAT
.VIDEO
.CLUB
.HOLA
.SOC
.MED
.LAW
.TRAVEL <<<<<
.GAME
.FREE <<<<
.LTD
.GMBH
.TECH
.XXX
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ISOC/ICANN
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc07/msg02817.html
http://www.icann.org/tlds/
.FIRM
.STORE
.WEB
.ARTS
.REC
.INFO <<<<
.NOM
.AERO
.BIZ
.COOP
.INFO <<<<
.MUSEUM
.NAME
.PRO
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Roessler" <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
To: <ga-roots@dnso.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ga-roots] Re: ICANN Policy -- revised version
> On 2001-06-14 15:42:10 -0700, Kent Crispin wrote:
>
> >On the contrary, I think the statement should be strengthened, for
> >exactly the reason that the Tucows representative gave: to give
> >any deference whatsoever to alternate root providers would simply
> >encourage avoidance of the ICANN process. Right now the big
> >players don't do alternate roots for two reasons: 1) they realize
> >the technical instabilities it would create; and 2) even more
> >important, they realize the total chaos that would prevail if
> >ICANN gave any credence whatsoever to alternate roots.
>
> These are strong and good arguments why ICANN should establish a
> policy to ignore alternate roots. But they are NOT arguments which
> say that ICANN has already done so in the past.
>
> >>I can prove easily that there is no policy: ICANN has explicitly
> >>avoided a conflict in the case of .WEB, and it has created a
> >>conflict in the case of .BIZ.
>
> >You have a pretty weak notion of "proof". If anything, what we
> >have is clear proof that ICANN has simply been following a policy
> >of ignoring any precedent set by alternate roots.
>
> A policy or a custom? There's certainly a difference between the
> two concepts. In particular, a policy would have to come from a
> pretty well-defined process. Opposed to that, a custom just means
> that "we have always done it this way".
>
> I don't believe that blurring the line between the two concepts is
> helpful at all - in particular given the formal role consensus
> xpolicies play in the entire ICANN process.
>
> >It is undeniable fact that there is a long and continuous history
> >of rejection of alternate roots, a history that preceeded ICANN by
> >years. And it is I believe completely obvious that what the Tucows
> >representative said is true: any deference to any alternate root
> >would instantly open the floodgates, and worldwide there would be
> >thousands of new alternate tlds immediately insisting on
> >recognition.
>
> There isn't much serious disgareement on this - with two exceptions:
>
> - ICANN may wish to pay special attention to .WEB. It may, however,
> only pay this special attention when it makes abundantly clear
> why it is doing so, and that this won't be repeated with more
> recent instances of alterantive TLDs.
>
> - Not paying attention to the alternate TLDs isn't sufficient to
> keep the floodgates closed. ICANN MUST speed up the TLD addition
> process, because otherwise new.net-like business models could
> become more and more interesting.
>
> Once that is the case, alternate TLDs may create destructive
> capacities against any colliders ICANN may add later. Thus,
> ICANN would be forced into paying special attention to these
> players, which would in turn further weaken the floodgates.
>
> We can only hope that new.net isn't the first such case.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Thomas Roessler http://log.does-not-exist.org/
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